Love how clean it cuts. Thanks for sharing and adding another toy to my wish list... my wife is gonna roll her eyes and shake her head when I ask her about maybe getting one of these!
GP Outdoors, I watched the video and bought one. I put it on my little Magnatrac Dozer and it didn't work out to well. The little dozer flattens things out and they do not "recover" fast enough for the hammer blades to go to work. So, I will be attaching it to my tractor, about the same size as yours, and seeing it it works out better. Thanks for the video!
@@GPOutdoors yeah, their two largest models have that as an option. My little dozer weighs twice as much as my 4-wheel drive tractor. It is incredible what it can do. I worked with an old engineer. In WW2 he would have a little Cat dozer dropped on the islands to build airstrips. They weighed about 6000 pounds. I would rather have my dozer than my Kubota, and that is saying a lot!
Very satisfying to watch. I’ve been out of town so I’m just trying to catch up with all the work you’ve been getting done. This reminds me about my plan to start a custom hay business, not with the little Kubota, obviously, something bigger and way older, but I might give it a go for fun, see how it works out. When done right there’s actually a fair amount of money in it. We’ll see. I wish I could justify a flail mower out in these parts but the only place I’d want to mow that I can get the tractor into and OUT OF would be the roadside ditch and the county already mows that for us. I love helping our neighbors too but our new ones don’t really need my help as much, or rather, they’re not as interested in being close friends. Anyways, another great video, as always. Always amazes me that you find the time to do such nice edits, the quality of your videos is awesome and has only been growing since the beginning. I think with all these implements you’re going to be borrowing from Farmer’s, you should probably ask for some pallet forks too, if you know what I mean ;) I wouldn’t trust myself chaining stuff to my tractor to lift it out of a truck bed, but then again I don’t have own a truck, or have anything to lift out of it, so I guess I’ve never done it. Something to consider, maybe ;) Till the next one, take care, and cheers!
Hey thanks Jackson. Love the entrepreneurial spirit! If you think you can make a go of something, set up a company ( very cheap) and give it a whirl my friend. I think we are pretty fortunate to be able to see different implements courtesy of Farmer's but life is short. If you think you might have a good opportunity, give it a shot. You are young. Lots of time to recover if it doesn't work out. Cheers and best of luck!! Enjoy the meteor shower this weekend!
Dave. The only reason I tried doing that is because you said to take it in there and do it. LOL!! I have to admit, I was a little skeptical but thanks for the tip and advice as always. You were right. It is a little monster! Just eats everything. I am going to try an area that is even thicker next time. Cheers!
That is an awesome mower. Doesn't sound like it puts a lot of load on the tractor either. The grass and scrub was pretty thick and it mowed right through it with no problems. Pretty neat!!!
LOL! Too funny. Yes, a little safety minded. Put them on when driving over on the road and lots of kids play in those trails and back lots, so I always like to be visible - the kids can't hear the tractor over the sound of their little ATV engines so I figure its best to be visible. Thanks for watching and for the humour this morning - made me laugh - Cheers!
Loved it! Good to see you floating the mower. And I didn't see any disturbed soil from the implement 'dragging' behind you. Cool! Still I am drawn to the wonderful job done by you and the neighbor on the expanded metal grill guard. :D
Good morning 10essee! Thanks - you were right , it floats great. And rolls along the contours of the land well. Thanks - Very happy I have that guard in place now. Cheers and thanks again!
Another great video GP! As I see it, but maybe I'm wrong, the one advantage a brush cutter has over the flail mower is that you are able to go in reverse w/ the brush cutter while still on the ground and continuing to cut while the flail mower must be raised and can't cut while in reverse, thus saving some time.The flail mower looks to be much more maneuverable though. Have a great day!
These mowers great in a vineyard. We had a problem with a rotary, Brush Hog, type mower because it just cut the top off the prunings. We go a used 5ft flail like this one with hammer or scoop knifes and it pick the prunings up and shredded them.
Good job on the video GP! The four ways are for the moose! Man, I'm miss yard maintenance. I'm living vicariously through you GP until I get back to Minnesota.
LOL! Hope you get back there soon Sean! Those moose drive me nuts. I have been up here for years and I have yet to actually see one here. But I keep seeing the tracks along my driveway so I know they are here, and some of the neighbours have seen them. Very good at hide and seek! Cheers!
Very cool bud. I'm in northern Ontario with a B7800 but use a 5 foot rotary cutter that definitely does not do as good of a job. I have to get one of those so compact . Thanks for showing this. 👍
Good day and thanks Steve! Great to hear from you up in the great white north. :)) Thanks for tuning in. Yes, it was a pretty cool unit for handling brush etc. Thanks again and all the best!
GP it really did a super nice job ! i like to try one out on the Kioti ! and to the ones asking why the flashers are on maybe he like them ON i would run them on tractors all the time when i would run them !!! it dose not hurt to run them of road i know guys that run them all day long and some that dont run them at all even when they are on the road at night !! but GP have a great week and take care !! God bless !!! Kioti Curt :-)
Gp I've used rotary my whole life till about 5 years ago. I've got a similar b2320 and run a jd 360 5foot flail and could not be happier. I now run the split "y" teeth and can now 5 foot tall to 4 inch or only adjust my top link and mow a 2 in tall yard. They take way less power than a Bush hog, leave materials evenly distributed, and in my case can not throw any debris.
Love the symmetry, the safety, the even distribution, the mulching, and if the finish from the hammers is good enough, leave em on. Why is it so satisfying to see the before and after? Interesting how brown the finished mat was after. Looks like its close enough in to not need to counter weight of the scoop in front. Use the rotary cutter if want to return the rock throwing at Bigfoot in the woods.
LOL John!! I'd love to give 'em back! Thanks - great mower. I kind of had it set pretty low but it took everything I threw at it- rocks and all. Cheers and have a great weekend!
GP looking like you're having to much fun when that's to be work. HAHAHA that does a good job going forward & you showed how it went backwards on last video. so nowvabout only thing to try is going sideways.LOL
I noticed your transmission shaft (between gearbox and pulley) doesn't appear to have inlet or discharge ports to for oil for the shaft bearings. I just purchased a Titan flail mower and the owner manual indicated this shaft was going to need .35 Lt of oil but was missing the inlet/discharge ports. Are your bearings at each end of this shaft lubricated with grease fittings? Mine are not, yet no input/discharge ports for oil either.
Good morning Joe. Very little rock. I walked through to check first before I started mowing as I know that no mowers are made to cut or hit rocks on purpose so I wanted to check for any before I fired it up. Between the two of us, I did hit one by accident. Oops. But no damage at all and it just kept cutting. I checked after and nothing was damaged underneath. Whew! Cheers!
I have a B2650 and want to buy a flail mower.Looking at the beco 64 inch or the del morino 52 boom mount or 62 funny flail mower with the tilt option.I was copairing mowers because some say that it is hard to get parts for the equipment made in China.Also the beco is quite heavy comared to the del morino.Also I have not seen a hydraulic top link on your tractor yet.
What’s the clearance? We’re looking to purchase something similar. My concern would be damaging the cutting blades on a partially hidden rock. Thx! (Your videos are top notch and very helpful!)
Nice enough job on those trails for sure. How does it do making a trail? Considering getting a B series with loader/grapple on front and adding a flail to the rear. My idea is the loader would knock stuff down before the flail mows it. Does that sound like anything you've done already? Thanks
Good morning! Thanks for the question. I started making trails and have a few videos on the channel - (starting with video #188). I don't think the flail would do well for "making" the trail. I used my grapple and the box blade primarily. Reason is because there are lots of rocks and stumps etc that I had to pull out along the way and the scarifiers on the box blade allowed me to rip them out (as well as the grapple) and then I used the box blade to grade and smooth thereafter. It worked very well for me. The flail would be great for maintaining the trails after but not sure it would be the right tool for creating the trail. Just my thoughts. Good luck!
Another enjoyable video GP. Always enjoy what you put out there. I wish I had the property to be able to use something like you just showed. Just wondering if you have ever mowed over any ground bee hives. This flail mower seems to do a decent job. Enjoy your time on your tractor.
Hey Gary. Thanks kindly for the comments. If you mean an actual hive of bees, in the ground, I have not yet and hopefully never will.LOL. I can imagine I might have to run for it. Cheers and thanks again!
Hi Dennis. I never took anything down that tall but I did a few other videos with it and I think the largest diameter sapling i tried was just under 2" I think. It is rated to take down up to 3".
thats one thing i didn't like about the Hydro tranny. you always have to run the rpms up..n the crap out of it to do work. I have the gear drive on my 2015 and I only need 1800 rpm to run my implements..and do the same work as the hydro running at 3500 rpm's. Saves a pile on fuel cost.
Thanks a lot for the video. If you wanted to cutback a long long row of planted dogwood and you lifted it up to 18inches, do you you think you would get any kind of cleanish cut or would it be a mess, also any thought on hammer vs knives for this, thanks again
Good evening Hannah. I wish I could answer on the dogwood but don't have experience - sorry about that. But I would definitely get the hammers if you decided to buy a flail mower. Sorry I could not be of more assistance. Cheers and all the best!
Good morning Phil. I really wish I could answer that but I honestly have no experience with them. I know there were a few comments way back from folks who grow blueberries too, but I am not experienced with them. Sorry I could not be of much help. But good luck to you!
Thanks for the video. I've been debating the bush hog v flail for a while. This is an encouraging argument for the flail for my purpose. I like the compact design and the even distribution of the mulch/clippings. I did notice the minimum HP rating for their smallest flail unit is 16-30 HP while the B2601 has a PTO HP rating of 19.5. Did you feel like your output was under-powered at any time? Looks like it handled it just fine.
Good morning Scott. No power issues at all. A few times you would have heard the engine rpm drop a bit but that was because I was driving too fast when I drove into a thicker patch (which is what would happen with any mower) but otherwise none at all. It cuts very well. I will be doing a thicker area, as well as cutting my lawn, with it this weekend. Cheers !
That was awesome. This seems better than a finishing mower. I really like my finish mower. But for this application I think the flail is so much better. Is it all gear driven? Looks like it's a great implement.
Good day Dean. I like my FM too but this flail mower is definitely in my view, better suited for these kinds of things. I am going to try cutting my front lawn with it next week. I am just letting the grass grow a little longer before i mow it. It is gear driven from the PTO but then has 3 belts that transfer the energy from the gear box to the rotor underneath. Thanks for the comment and for watching as always! Cheers!
looking forward to seeing how well it does on the lawn. more compact than finish mower, curious to see how the hammers do on the grass. along with the clippings it leaves
You see to be doing fine with the lower horsepower tractor. In your opinion would a flair mower be appropriate for a Kubota L 2501? Seems the stats require 30 plus hp as listed in Land Pride documents.
Good day Bill. The flail mower here is one from Farmer Equipment Sales (dot com) here in Canada. They have different sizes and different PTO HP ranges. This 48" worked great for my 19.6 HP PTO. (it is rated for 16-30 PTO HP). This flail would certainly be great for an L series. Cheers and good luck!
Good day Dale. It didn't for me but I had it set really low too. (You will see in one of the videos). But I could see that if you had the height set high on it , that you would get a corresponding stump on the saplings, so guess so long as you set the height of it low when needed, then it would minimize the height of any remaining stumps. It worked pretty great. Good luck with the decision! I am not an expert but as you continue researching, if you have any questions, I'll try to answer them as best as I can. Cheers!
Good day MOV. Some others have said they use a flail for that type of application. The hammers I had were pretty heavy duty but you can contact Kevin at Farmer's to see what the specs are etc. I am not sure if there is a heavier set or not. Be well and all the best!
GP how many knifes/hammers are on the mower. I am impressed with the job it does with the hammers. If it would do as nice with the knifes on the yard, 1 piece of equipment might be able to do both jobs.
Hey Coy, it uses 40 knives or 20 hammers. I am going to try mowing the lawn with it next week - just waiting to let the grass grow some more first . So we will see how it does (I will be mowing with the hammers, so I am interested to see how it works). Cheers!
GP Outdoors looking forward to see that video. I have read some on fail mowers. From my limited understanding and total lack of knowledge, I think I understand the knifes are more suited to grass and the hammers for rougher growth. Not sure what is in place if anything to replace the stump jumper you fond on a rotary cutter. Waiting for the video!
My cousin has a Woodmax FM-54 (54" wide) on a little Kubota BX2370. She lives in Wisconsin and this is the first summer she has been using it. She has the hammer blades (they do have a cutting edge on them) on it and mowers fields AND her lawn. Does it do as good of a job as a finish mower? Of course not. But it does a passable job keeping her lawn looking like a lawn and not a field. I don't think you'd want to change out between knives and hammer blades. That would get REAL old REAL fast! ;)
Dave Smith I would think that for my purposes I would only need the hammers 2-3 times a year for rough cutting. But again I am not sure what it would like with the lawn cut with the hammers. I have cut grass with my rotary cutter (what I grew up calling a bush hog) and I was not impressed. Again no experience with a fail mower.
Good morning and great question. Lots of little kids and ATV traffic through the trails. It may not make a big difference but I like to be as visible as possible. Thanks for the comment this morning!
Good morning Dennis. I can't answer that to be honest. I have used a belly mower, a finish mower and now a flail mower, but I don't have any experience on brush hogs yet. I can certainly see that the flail mower cuts some pretty big sized woody material and leaves a clean mulch below it. And it seems to me that each of them are designed for certain capacities and types of cuts or materials that they can cut. Perhaps I will get a chance to test out a brush hog at some point. Sorry I could not be more help on this. Cheers and all the best!
GP Outdoors one big difference that I see (no personal experience with a fail mower) is that the fail mower dies not have the traditional ‘stump jumper’ capability. Now the small 1.5” or less is probably not an issue, but I see a 4”+ stump recking havoc on the fail mower, I have personally gone over bigger stumps ‘bush hogging’.
Hello! I like the video , can you tell me what tractor , year , model, HP are you using and also the cutter behind, year model and price please thanks.
Good morning and thanks for the questions today. It is a 2017 Kubota B2601 tractor, 25 HP on the engine, 19.6 HP on the PTO. The mower is a BECO Flail Mower - 48" wide. Prices for the Kubota are on Kubota's website and you can find the pricing for the flail mower on farmerequipmentsales dot com. Thanks and all the best!
Totally unrelated......what length is your HLA grapple and how much did it cost ( roughly)??? I just bought 168 acres in Ontario and besides needing another kubota.....watching you use the grapple has made my wife want one.....but she’s concerned about the cost. The Landpride version looks weaker and it’s over $2000!!!! I assume the HLA must cost more???
The 60" HLA Light Duty Root Rake Grapple cost me about 2.4k from the Kubota dealer here in Ontario. I think this is what GP has as well. You do have to have the 3rd function valve kit which was close to 1k for my B2650. This thing has been awesome in our rocky terrain and much better than the Landpride offering! If you google the HLA Price List you should find PDFs with the MSRP.
Good morning Brad. Alain is correct on the model and make of it. I honestly don't remember what it cost as the invoice was not split but it was in or around the price of the Landpride or thereabouts, I believe. Weighs a lot more than the landpride so of course would affect capacity but so far, for my needs, I am still able to lift what I need to. Congratulations to you and your wife on the new land!! I am sure it will keep you tractoring even more, for a long time. LOL ! All the best! And let me know how it is going from time to time.
Just a quick update,GP. Just ordered the new tractor, also had them order the grapple as well.....supposed to be 3 weeks for the grapple. The tractor should be here this coming Friday or possibly next Monday. They are even throwing in a keyed kill switch, that disables the tractor......hopefully to slow down would be thieves.
Hey congrats Brad!! You both must be pretty excited. Going to be hard to sleep for the next week. LOL. With two tractors now you can both work the property together :)) Great news - talk soon!
Morning Ron. the biggest saplings I mowed over were about 1 3/4" to 2 ". I never got to try it on a 3" but I did run it over a 12" stump and it chewed through it down the ground (mind you it was there for about 2 years). Mulched it right down without any trouble. Loved that flail mower. They also make them with off-set capability so you can swing them out to the sides of the tractor too. Take care!
Good day SH! There are different sizes and prices. If you go Farmer Equipment Sales website you can take a look at the different options and prices. I don't put the link because your settings on your youtube account may be set to reject messages with links. Cheers and thanks for watching!
An excellent question, Tom. I have a large lawn area in the front area of my property and in the mid-to-long term, the area of the property which has brush/thicket is the area I eventually will build my garage on. In the long term, I will only have the front lawn area that needs grooming.Which is why I bought a finish mower, and not a flail mower. I hope that helps explain it. Take good care!
@@GPOutdoors actually a flail mower can be used for weeds and as a finish mower providing you have the right blades on it. If you're using the "y" blades, it'll leave a nice cut. I used to drive with 12 feet of them for both weeds and finished cuts. 🙃🙃🙃
Good day Leo. It cuts the brush well and just leaves mulch behind. I know from my instructions that the rotor is balanced ( which makes sense since it is spinning with a lot of force) so needs all knives or hammers attached. Cheers and thanks for watching !
Good morning Mike. I can't remember but if you call Farmer Equipment Sales here in Ontario, I am sure they can answer any questions you have. Cheers and good luck!
Good morning john. I honestly don't know - I have had a couple of folks asking the same question. I am sorry I don't have any experience with that. Have a good weekend!
LOL Pat! Good morning. Well, not a deer but they are ATV trails and I was also on the road for a while so always good to stay as visible as possible. Cheers and thanks for the morning humour!
I got a flail mower for my Kubota B2601 not quite a year ago - they are awesome aren't they? I should have got mine sooner. I went with the 59" Caroni TL1500 - with the "medium duty" Y blades, rather than the hammer blades. (They didn't have them in stock and wasn't sure I needed them.) I made a video of mine here: th-cam.com/video/qXoQ2sWb4PM/w-d-xo.html. Thanks for posting - when I was researching mowers for my tractor I was trying to find folks using them in real-world scenarios with the smaller Kubota and there weren't a lot of videos around then.
Hey good day AIE. So sorry it took so long to answer. My channel does not accept comments with Urls so it gets blocked. But I checked out your video and you did an excellent job editing and creating it. It was really well done. I enjoyed it a lot. Thanks for sharing with me. Yes, these flail mowers are little powerhouses. I do enjoy seeing others with B2601 tractors to watch and see how they work their land, so if you are ever inclined to do it, I would enjoy seeing more videos of your tractor and work around your property. Cheers and thanks again!
Adventures In Exile I’m surprised the 59 inch works on your 2601, The manual for the 2601 and the 2650 say that the 48 inch is the maximum width for a flail mower.
Hey good day TJ. That's a great question and I will include it in the next video. People have asked before a few times. The reason is for safety. That spot I was doing all the work on at this video was a neighbour's place and he and bunch of his guests were about 50 metres away from me as I was winding in and around them through that field/forest. Also, the kids along the concession know it is ok to come ATV'ing on my property and through my forests and my driveway anytime they like, so I keep the headlights and four ways going to hopefully be more visible in case they come whipping around a corner or up through the trail where I am working. Just figure a little extra visibility can't hurt. And I figure they have a better chance of seeing me before they get to me especially if they come up from behind and I don't see them while I am working or backing up. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and for the question. Cheers!!
Thanks! That makes perfect sense......I know you need to run them on public roads and only seems responsible to run them on other people’s property. Also makes sense to run them on your own property if there are strange people on your property. I actually added a amber strobing light bar to my ROPS, which gives me a full 360° view. I only run it however, when I leave my property. Also added a 5000 lumen light bar to the front and back of my ROPS. No holes were drilled in the assembly of my light and visibility package on the ROPS. I enjoy watching your channel....Thank You, GP.
Hey all good Brad. I like the idea of the amber light bar. You never know when a neighbour will drop by down the road or the kids will come Atv'ing through so the light bar would give a better warning. On ATV's, they cannot hear the tractor before they come across me. Thanks again and all the best!
Love watching these types of mowers in use
That's nice and looking back when you're done makes you feel even better. Thanks for sharing GP, keep up the good work
Good morning and thanks ODD! All the best!
That mower did a great job.👍 Great investment for your farm
Love how clean it cuts. Thanks for sharing and adding another toy to my wish list... my wife is gonna roll her eyes and shake her head when I ask her about maybe getting one of these!
LOL. But tell her it is so you can make the property look perfect for her...:)) Ok, that's all I got Jamie- LOL Cheers and see you on the next one!
Patiently waiting!
GP Outdoors, I watched the video and bought one. I put it on my little Magnatrac Dozer and it didn't work out to well. The little dozer flattens things out and they do not "recover" fast enough for the hammer blades to go to work. So, I will be attaching it to my tractor, about the same size as yours, and seeing it it works out better. Thanks for the video!
Thanks Ron - I actually didn't know that those magnatracs had a PTO on them (?)..:))
@@GPOutdoors yeah, their two largest models have that as an option. My little dozer weighs twice as much as my 4-wheel drive tractor. It is incredible what it can do. I worked with an old engineer. In WW2 he would have a little Cat dozer dropped on the islands to build airstrips. They weighed about 6000 pounds. I would rather have my dozer than my Kubota, and that is saying a lot!
OH Yeah! It works great! It don't leave much behind! I like how compact it is, makes it easy to maneuver in wooded areas. Nice GP!
Thanks LA! Be well!!
Very satisfying to watch. I’ve been out of town so I’m just trying to catch up with all the work you’ve been getting done. This reminds me about my plan to start a custom hay business, not with the little Kubota, obviously, something bigger and way older, but I might give it a go for fun, see how it works out. When done right there’s actually a fair amount of money in it. We’ll see. I wish I could justify a flail mower out in these parts but the only place I’d want to mow that I can get the tractor into and OUT OF would be the roadside ditch and the county already mows that for us. I love helping our neighbors too but our new ones don’t really need my help as much, or rather, they’re not as interested in being close friends. Anyways, another great video, as always. Always amazes me that you find the time to do such nice edits, the quality of your videos is awesome and has only been growing since the beginning. I think with all these implements you’re going to be borrowing from Farmer’s, you should probably ask for some pallet forks too, if you know what I mean ;) I wouldn’t trust myself chaining stuff to my tractor to lift it out of a truck bed, but then again I don’t have own a truck, or have anything to lift out of it, so I guess I’ve never done it. Something to consider, maybe ;) Till the next one, take care, and cheers!
Hey thanks Jackson. Love the entrepreneurial spirit! If you think you can make a go of something, set up a company ( very cheap) and give it a whirl my friend. I think we are pretty fortunate to be able to see different implements courtesy of Farmer's but life is short. If you think you might have a good opportunity, give it a shot. You are young. Lots of time to recover if it doesn't work out. Cheers and best of luck!! Enjoy the meteor shower this weekend!
that flail mower works great. good way to keep the forest in check. nice demonstration!
i'd like to see how that works on small woody brush.
Good morning CP. I will do that next. I have a spot that should give us that test to do next. Stay tuned. Have a good week and see you o the next one!
There ya go! I told you... Flail mowers are deceptive. Small package but monster mower!
Dave. The only reason I tried doing that is because you said to take it in there and do it. LOL!! I have to admit, I was a little skeptical but thanks for the tip and advice as always. You were right. It is a little monster! Just eats everything. I am going to try an area that is even thicker next time. Cheers!
That is an awesome mower. Doesn't sound like it puts a lot of load on the tractor either. The grass and scrub was pretty thick and it mowed right through it with no problems. Pretty neat!!!
Yes indeed. I was pretty shocked and impressed at the power of that thing. Have a great weekend Grampie!
You're funny ... love the hazard lights going in the middle of an overgrown track ... why ... look out critters ...
LOL! Too funny. Yes, a little safety minded. Put them on when driving over on the road and lots of kids play in those trails and back lots, so I always like to be visible - the kids can't hear the tractor over the sound of their little ATV engines so I figure its best to be visible. Thanks for watching and for the humour this morning - made me laugh - Cheers!
That flail mower works a treat . You will be getting good use out of it 👍
Loved it! Good to see you floating the mower. And I didn't see any disturbed soil from the implement 'dragging' behind you. Cool! Still I am drawn to the wonderful job done by you and the neighbor on the expanded metal grill guard. :D
Good morning 10essee! Thanks - you were right , it floats great. And rolls along the contours of the land well. Thanks - Very happy I have that guard in place now. Cheers and thanks again!
Very impressive, right through the sumac!
Ive got 10 acres covered in 4 foot high sunflowers, I really think that a flail mower is gonna be my best bet for mowing
It was a powerful little beast for sure. Cheers!
Hi GP,
Great! Now I need a flail mower!! Lol. Your channel is costing me money!! Another great video Sir. Thanks! Peace.
LOL HH!! Yup, it is hard not to want these implements. Cheers and thanks !!
Another great video GP! As I see it, but maybe I'm wrong, the one advantage a brush cutter has over the flail mower is that you are able to go in reverse w/ the brush cutter while still on the ground and continuing to cut while the flail mower must be raised and can't cut while in reverse, thus saving some time.The flail mower looks to be much more maneuverable though. Have a great day!
I think those are some valid differences Paul. Different mowers for different applications or needs. Thanks for the points and for saying hi. Cheers!
These mowers great in a vineyard. We had a problem with a rotary, Brush Hog, type mower because it just cut the top off the prunings. We go a used 5ft flail like this one with hammer or scoop knifes and it pick the prunings up and shredded them.
Good day Bill! I have heard they work well in vineyards. I enjoyed learning how to use it. Thanks for the comments and info. Cheers!
I would really love one of these mowers
yeah there avaliable at farmer equipment sales ontario ,Good Equipment pei
Yup it seems like it does a great job GP.....well worth the money.
Good morning Don. Its definitely a little beast that's sure. Cheers!
Good job on the video GP! The four ways are for the moose! Man, I'm miss yard maintenance. I'm living vicariously through you GP until I get back to Minnesota.
LOL! Hope you get back there soon Sean! Those moose drive me nuts. I have been up here for years and I have yet to actually see one here. But I keep seeing the tracks along my driveway so I know they are here, and some of the neighbours have seen them. Very good at hide and seek! Cheers!
That is really slick! Looks like it had no problems!
Very cool bud. I'm in northern Ontario with a B7800 but use a 5 foot rotary cutter that definitely does not do as good of a job. I have to get one of those so compact . Thanks for showing this. 👍
Good day and thanks Steve! Great to hear from you up in the great white north. :)) Thanks for tuning in. Yes, it was a pretty cool unit for handling brush etc. Thanks again and all the best!
That did an amazing job 🙌
G P that mower works great there has to be a lot of things you can use it around your place
God Bless
PaK
Good morning Peter. Yes, it works really well and I have a few more places i want to try it. Cheers and all the best to you and your family!
Awesome attachment!
GP it really did a super nice job ! i like to try one out on the Kioti ! and to the ones asking why the flashers are on maybe he like them ON i would run them on tractors all the time when i would run them !!! it dose not hurt to run them of road i know guys that run them all day long and some that dont run them at all even when they are on the road at night !! but GP have a great week and take care !! God bless !!! Kioti Curt :-)
Thanks Curt. Always need to be safe! Cheers and all the best!
Gp I've used rotary my whole life till about 5 years ago. I've got a similar b2320 and run a jd 360 5foot flail and could not be happier. I now run the split "y" teeth and can now 5 foot tall to 4 inch or only adjust my top link and mow a 2 in tall yard. They take way less power than a Bush hog, leave materials evenly distributed, and in my case can not throw any debris.
Nice Cody! The flail mower design certainly proved it can manage multiple types of terrain with no problem. Thanks for sharing. Have a great week!
nice implement it's not long like a finish mower and rough cut mower.
will go in tight space and easy to maneuver
Good day Teddy. That's a good point and yes , much easier to maneuver around with it. Thanks for watching and all the best!
Love the symmetry, the safety, the even distribution, the mulching, and if the finish from the hammers is good enough, leave em on. Why is it so satisfying to see the before and after? Interesting how brown the finished mat was after. Looks like its close enough in to not need to counter weight of the scoop in front. Use the rotary cutter if want to return the rock throwing at Bigfoot in the woods.
LOL John!! I'd love to give 'em back! Thanks - great mower. I kind of had it set pretty low but it took everything I threw at it- rocks and all. Cheers and have a great weekend!
GP: Another great video! Thanks
GP looking like you're having to much fun when that's to be work. HAHAHA
that does a good job going forward & you showed how it went backwards on last video. so nowvabout only thing to try is going sideways.LOL
LOL. I think I will swing it sideways into some brush or a sappling just for you. LOL. Cheers and all the best!
That works very good
It was a great unit Randy. Surprised me a lot and sorry I had to give it back. LOL Cheers!
I noticed your transmission shaft (between gearbox and pulley) doesn't appear to have inlet or discharge ports to for oil for the shaft bearings. I just purchased a Titan flail mower and the owner manual indicated this shaft was going to need .35 Lt of oil but was missing the inlet/discharge ports. Are your bearings at each end of this shaft lubricated with grease fittings? Mine are not, yet no input/discharge ports for oil either.
I am amazed on how clean is the cut. Very effective. Was there any rock anywhere you used it? Thanks!
Good morning Joe. Very little rock. I walked through to check first before I started mowing as I know that no mowers are made to cut or hit rocks on purpose so I wanted to check for any before I fired it up. Between the two of us, I did hit one by accident. Oops. But no damage at all and it just kept cutting. I checked after and nothing was damaged underneath. Whew! Cheers!
Wow! I need two!
Good day Alex. LOL. Cheers!
I have a B2650 and want to buy a flail mower.Looking at the beco 64 inch or the del morino 52 boom mount or 62 funny flail mower with the tilt option.I was copairing mowers because some say that it is hard to get parts for the equipment made in China.Also the beco is quite heavy comared to the del morino.Also I have not seen a hydraulic top link on your tractor yet.
What’s the clearance? We’re looking to purchase something similar. My concern would be damaging the cutting blades on a partially hidden rock. Thx! (Your videos are top notch and very helpful!)
Nice enough job on those trails for sure. How does it do making a trail? Considering getting a B series with loader/grapple on front and adding a flail to the rear. My idea is the loader would knock stuff down before the flail mows it. Does that sound like anything you've done already?
Thanks
Good morning! Thanks for the question. I started making trails and have a few videos on the channel - (starting with video #188). I don't think the flail would do well for "making" the trail. I used my grapple and the box blade primarily. Reason is because there are lots of rocks and stumps etc that I had to pull out along the way and the scarifiers on the box blade allowed me to rip them out (as well as the grapple) and then I used the box blade to grade and smooth thereafter. It worked very well for me. The flail would be great for maintaining the trails after but not sure it would be the right tool for creating the trail. Just my thoughts. Good luck!
Another enjoyable video GP. Always enjoy what you put out there. I wish I had the property to be able to use something like you just showed. Just wondering if you have ever mowed over any ground bee hives. This flail mower seems to do a decent job. Enjoy your time on your tractor.
Hey Gary. Thanks kindly for the comments. If you mean an actual hive of bees, in the ground, I have not yet and hopefully never will.LOL. I can imagine I might have to run for it. Cheers and thanks again!
Boy, i really wanted to see how it would do on those little scruffy saplings on your left side at 1:20.
Are those in its range or to much?
Hi Dennis. I never took anything down that tall but I did a few other videos with it and I think the largest diameter sapling i tried was just under 2" I think. It is rated to take down up to 3".
Im thinking about getting one of these. I see it takes belts. Have you ever broken a belt?
Do you still like your flail mower? Is this the one from China? I am looking at buying the 68” likely this fall. With hammers
I keep loosing hammers on my flail mower... All the nuts holding the hammers seem to loosen up, has this happened to you too?
thats one thing i didn't like about the Hydro tranny. you always have to run the rpms up..n the crap out of it to do work. I have the gear drive on my 2015 and I only need 1800 rpm to run my implements..and do the same work as the hydro running at 3500 rpm's. Saves a pile on fuel cost.
Top of the evening GP. You know the rules once you try it and you like it you got to buy it. LOL Later
LOL!! Budget is dry for the rest of the year I am afraid but it is growing on me for sure. Be well my friend and all the best wishes to your family!
Thank you my friend and the same to you and your's. Later
Thanks a lot for the video. If you wanted to cutback a long long row of planted dogwood and you lifted it up to 18inches, do you you think you would get any kind of cleanish cut or would it be a mess, also any thought on hammer vs knives for this, thanks again
Good evening Hannah. I wish I could answer on the dogwood but don't have experience - sorry about that. But I would definitely get the hammers if you decided to buy a flail mower. Sorry I could not be of more assistance. Cheers and all the best!
What is your opinion on how this would work on mulching blueberry branches after heavy pruning?
Good morning Phil. I really wish I could answer that but I honestly have no experience with them. I know there were a few comments way back from folks who grow blueberries too, but I am not experienced with them. Sorry I could not be of much help. But good luck to you!
So is this the FHEF-GC125 model that you have?
Thanks for the video. I've been debating the bush hog v flail for a while. This is an encouraging argument for the flail for my purpose. I like the compact design and the even distribution of the mulch/clippings. I did notice the minimum HP rating for their smallest flail unit is 16-30 HP while the B2601 has a PTO HP rating of 19.5. Did you feel like your output was under-powered at any time? Looks like it handled it just fine.
Good morning Scott. No power issues at all. A few times you would have heard the engine rpm drop a bit but that was because I was driving too fast when I drove into a thicker patch (which is what would happen with any mower) but otherwise none at all. It cuts very well. I will be doing a thicker area, as well as cutting my lawn, with it this weekend. Cheers !
What happens if hit surface of a buried rock or a 1-3 inch branch?
Nice viedeo GP yhe mower is doing great and the grass is cut very good an small.... can you show us the hight of the grass. good job
You bet Eric. I will include that on the next video. Cheers and thanks!!
That was awesome. This seems better than a finishing mower. I really like my finish mower. But for this application I think the flail is so much better. Is it all gear driven? Looks like it's a great implement.
Good day Dean. I like my FM too but this flail mower is definitely in my view, better suited for these kinds of things. I am going to try cutting my front lawn with it next week. I am just letting the grass grow a little longer before i mow it. It is gear driven from the PTO but then has 3 belts that transfer the energy from the gear box to the rotor underneath. Thanks for the comment and for watching as always! Cheers!
looking forward to seeing how well it does on the lawn. more compact than finish mower, curious to see how the hammers do on the grass. along with the clippings it leaves
Meant to ask you, what width did you get?
Dean Barr he said 48 inch. That’s the maximum for the B2601 and the B2650.
Very nice setup, looks like you're gonna have to get a hay rake!
LOL Mike! It does leave a lot of mulch. Cheers!
I am curious to see how it does while rounding a corner!! Anyways great video!!
Wow , 30thou. plus in equi. and it actually mows!
LOL. Good morning Jeffery. Yup, for that $$ it should have come with someone to operate it too. Thanks for the morning humour. Have a great weekend!
You see to be doing fine with the lower horsepower tractor. In your opinion would a flair mower be appropriate for a Kubota L 2501? Seems the stats require 30 plus hp as listed in Land Pride documents.
Good day Bill. The flail mower here is one from Farmer Equipment Sales (dot com) here in Canada. They have different sizes and different PTO HP ranges. This 48" worked great for my 19.6 HP PTO. (it is rated for 16-30 PTO HP). This flail would certainly be great for an L series. Cheers and good luck!
Looking at buying a mower in spring one question when cutting small brush does it leave little stumps that can puncture atv tires ?
Good day Dale. It didn't for me but I had it set really low too. (You will see in one of the videos). But I could see that if you had the height set high on it , that you would get a corresponding stump on the saplings, so guess so long as you set the height of it low when needed, then it would minimize the height of any remaining stumps. It worked pretty great. Good luck with the decision! I am not an expert but as you continue researching, if you have any questions, I'll try to answer them as best as I can. Cheers!
Thanks that was what i was looking for
Hi Gp I might buy one of them mowers for mowing up fruit tree brush just little stuff 1/2 inch to 1 inch. Is there a optional heavy hammer ?
Good day MOV. Some others have said they use a flail for that type of application. The hammers I had were pretty heavy duty but you can contact Kevin at Farmer's to see what the specs are etc. I am not sure if there is a heavier set or not. Be well and all the best!
Gp
How long your flail more length. And thre weight
GP how many knifes/hammers are on the mower. I am impressed with the job it does with the hammers. If it would do as nice with the knifes on the yard, 1 piece of equipment might be able to do both jobs.
Hey Coy, it uses 40 knives or 20 hammers. I am going to try mowing the lawn with it next week - just waiting to let the grass grow some more first . So we will see how it does (I will be mowing with the hammers, so I am interested to see how it works). Cheers!
GP Outdoors looking forward to see that video. I have read some on fail mowers. From my limited understanding and total lack of knowledge, I think I understand the knifes are more suited to grass and the hammers for rougher growth. Not sure what is in place if anything to replace the stump jumper you fond on a rotary cutter. Waiting for the video!
My cousin has a Woodmax FM-54 (54" wide) on a little Kubota BX2370. She lives in Wisconsin and this is the first summer she has been using it. She has the hammer blades (they do have a cutting edge on them) on it and mowers fields AND her lawn. Does it do as good of a job as a finish mower? Of course not. But it does a passable job keeping her lawn looking like a lawn and not a field.
I don't think you'd want to change out between knives and hammer blades. That would get REAL old REAL fast! ;)
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Dave Smith I would think that for my purposes I would only need the hammers 2-3 times a year for rough cutting. But again I am not sure what it would like with the lawn cut with the hammers.
I have cut grass with my rotary cutter (what I grew up calling a bush hog) and I was not impressed. Again no experience with a fail mower.
Why are your caution lights on?
Good morning and great question. Lots of little kids and ATV traffic through the trails. It may not make a big difference but I like to be as visible as possible. Thanks for the comment this morning!
What make of flail please ?
It's a BECO brand flail - Farmer Equipment Sales here in Ontario sells them. Cheers!
@@GPOutdoors thanks 🙏🏿 happy holidays to your family and you !!
So do you think this would replace a brush hog? Or do they both have different applications.
Good morning Dennis. I can't answer that to be honest. I have used a belly mower, a finish mower and now a flail mower, but I don't have any experience on brush hogs yet. I can certainly see that the flail mower cuts some pretty big sized woody material and leaves a clean mulch below it. And it seems to me that each of them are designed for certain capacities and types of cuts or materials that they can cut. Perhaps I will get a chance to test out a brush hog at some point. Sorry I could not be more help on this. Cheers and all the best!
GP Outdoors one big difference that I see (no personal experience with a fail mower) is that the fail mower dies not have the traditional ‘stump jumper’ capability. Now the small 1.5” or less is probably not an issue, but I see a 4”+ stump recking havoc on the fail mower, I have personally gone over bigger stumps ‘bush hogging’.
How do you like that flail mower vs a rotary Bush hog?
Good evening HVH. I have never used a bush hog yet so I honestly can't say. Wish I could help more. Have a good week!
Hello! I like the video , can you tell me what tractor , year , model, HP are you using and also the cutter behind, year model and price please thanks.
Good morning and thanks for the questions today. It is a 2017 Kubota B2601 tractor, 25 HP on the engine, 19.6 HP on the PTO. The mower is a BECO Flail Mower - 48" wide. Prices for the Kubota are on Kubota's website and you can find the pricing for the flail mower on farmerequipmentsales dot com. Thanks and all the best!
Nice video, u have a link or model number of your flail mower?
Hi Mike. you can see them on Farmer's website - farmerequipmentsales dot com. Cheers!
Totally unrelated......what length is your HLA grapple and how much did it cost ( roughly)??? I just bought 168 acres in Ontario and besides needing another kubota.....watching you use the grapple has made my wife want one.....but she’s concerned about the cost. The Landpride version looks weaker and it’s over $2000!!!! I assume the HLA must cost more???
The 60" HLA Light Duty Root Rake Grapple cost me about 2.4k from the Kubota dealer here in Ontario. I think this is what GP has as well. You do have to have the 3rd function valve kit which was close to 1k for my B2650. This thing has been awesome in our rocky terrain and much better than the Landpride offering! If you google the HLA Price List you should find PDFs with the MSRP.
Good morning Brad. Alain is correct on the model and make of it. I honestly don't remember what it cost as the invoice was not split but it was in or around the price of the Landpride or thereabouts, I believe. Weighs a lot more than the landpride so of course would affect capacity but so far, for my needs, I am still able to lift what I need to. Congratulations to you and your wife on the new land!! I am sure it will keep you tractoring even more, for a long time. LOL ! All the best! And let me know how it is going from time to time.
Just a quick update,GP. Just ordered the new tractor, also had them order the grapple as well.....supposed to be 3 weeks for the grapple. The tractor should be here this coming Friday or possibly next Monday. They are even throwing in a keyed kill switch, that disables the tractor......hopefully to slow down would be thieves.
Hey congrats Brad!! You both must be pretty excited. Going to be hard to sleep for the next week. LOL. With two tractors now you can both work the property together :)) Great news - talk soon!
Will it really cut 3" material?
Morning Ron. the biggest saplings I mowed over were about 1 3/4" to 2 ". I never got to try it on a 3" but I did run it over a 12" stump and it chewed through it down the ground (mind you it was there for about 2 years). Mulched it right down without any trouble. Loved that flail mower. They also make them with off-set capability so you can swing them out to the sides of the tractor too. Take care!
@@GPOutdoors Man, that is good to hear! I have the same model tractor as you!
Nice attachment there, about what do they cost?.
Good day SH! There are different sizes and prices. If you go Farmer Equipment Sales website you can take a look at the different options and prices. I don't put the link because your settings on your youtube account may be set to reject messages with links. Cheers and thanks for watching!
So, why didn't you keep it?
An excellent question, Tom. I have a large lawn area in the front area of my property and in the mid-to-long term, the area of the property which has brush/thicket is the area I eventually will build my garage on. In the long term, I will only have the front lawn area that needs grooming.Which is why I bought a finish mower, and not a flail mower. I hope that helps explain it. Take good care!
@@GPOutdoors actually a flail mower can be used for weeds and as a finish mower providing you have the right blades on it. If you're using the "y" blades, it'll leave a nice cut. I used to drive with 12 feet of them for both weeds and finished cuts. 🙃🙃🙃
Like the cuts but I its leaves ,I tryed one once ok it was used some hamer knives was mising .
Good day Leo. It cuts the brush well and just leaves mulch behind. I know from my instructions that the rotor is balanced ( which makes sense since it is spinning with a lot of force) so needs all knives or hammers attached. Cheers and thanks for watching !
Does anyone know if this is quick hitch compatible ?
Good morning Mike. I can't remember but if you call Farmer Equipment Sales here in Ontario, I am sure they can answer any questions you have. Cheers and good luck!
What will this thing do on blackberries?
Good morning john. I honestly don't know - I have had a couple of folks asking the same question. I am sorry I don't have any experience with that. Have a good weekend!
So, why are your flashers on, is thar so a deer doesn't run into you?
LOL Pat! Good morning. Well, not a deer but they are ATV trails and I was also on the road for a while so always good to stay as visible as possible. Cheers and thanks for the morning humour!
Honestly brush hog or this?
Morning MM - I will answer on your other comment. :)
I got a flail mower for my Kubota B2601 not quite a year ago - they are awesome aren't they? I should have got mine sooner. I went with the 59" Caroni TL1500 - with the "medium duty" Y blades, rather than the hammer blades. (They didn't have them in stock and wasn't sure I needed them.) I made a video of mine here: th-cam.com/video/qXoQ2sWb4PM/w-d-xo.html.
Thanks for posting - when I was researching mowers for my tractor I was trying to find folks using them in real-world scenarios with the smaller Kubota and there weren't a lot of videos around then.
Hey good day AIE. So sorry it took so long to answer. My channel does not accept comments with Urls so it gets blocked. But I checked out your video and you did an excellent job editing and creating it. It was really well done. I enjoyed it a lot. Thanks for sharing with me. Yes, these flail mowers are little powerhouses. I do enjoy seeing others with B2601 tractors to watch and see how they work their land, so if you are ever inclined to do it, I would enjoy seeing more videos of your tractor and work around your property. Cheers and thanks again!
Adventures In Exile I’m surprised the 59 inch works on your 2601, The manual for the 2601 and the 2650 say that the 48 inch is the maximum width for a flail mower.
Your making it look way to easy Gord.
Why do you drive with you four-ways on??
that all you got
Hey good day TJ. That's a great question and I will include it in the next video. People have asked before a few times. The reason is for safety. That spot I was doing all the work on at this video was a neighbour's place and he and bunch of his guests were about 50 metres away from me as I was winding in and around them through that field/forest. Also, the kids along the concession know it is ok to come ATV'ing on my property and through my forests and my driveway anytime they like, so I keep the headlights and four ways going to hopefully be more visible in case they come whipping around a corner or up through the trail where I am working. Just figure a little extra visibility can't hurt. And I figure they have a better chance of seeing me before they get to me especially if they come up from behind and I don't see them while I am working or backing up. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and for the question. Cheers!!
Why don't you raise it up out of the ground it's not a tiller
You only need a tractor and a bush hog to take care of that work
I have to admit........I also wonder why you run, with your 4 way flashers on??
really
I just answered him. LOL. Take a peak and let me know if that makes sense. Cheers!
LOL. Now, now CP. :)) Cheers my friend!
Thanks! That makes perfect sense......I know you need to run them on public roads and only seems responsible to run them on other people’s property. Also makes sense to run them on your own property if there are strange people on your property. I actually added a amber strobing light bar to my ROPS, which gives me a full 360° view. I only run it however, when I leave my property. Also added a 5000 lumen light bar to the front and back of my ROPS. No holes were drilled in the assembly of my light and visibility package on the ROPS. I enjoy watching your channel....Thank You, GP.
Hey all good Brad. I like the idea of the amber light bar. You never know when a neighbour will drop by down the road or the kids will come Atv'ing through so the light bar would give a better warning. On ATV's, they cannot hear the tractor before they come across me. Thanks again and all the best!
That does a terrible job at mulching. Look at the layer of long, matted chaff it's leaving. Yuck. Look at Woodmaxx flail mowers.