imo there is absolutely nothing wrong with this practice at all, for a country like this I wouldn't even call this piracy. I find it fascinating how when there is restricted access to a thing (such as films in this example) the level of appreciation/taste is higher, its like the search or work towards finding something creates a higher understanding as opposed to no exploration and being told by the media what to like and watch, going out on your own and searching for what you're interested in creates a deeper connection if that makes sense
Growing up in a third world country, this brought back so many memories. We would go down to the local stores and buy bootlegs of games, movies, music, whatever, all for less than 2 USD each. Pirated copies were the only option, there was no distribution of legal copies at all.
I used to buy pirate movies in polvos azules when i was in college, back in 2005. Classic and independent cinema was nearly impossible to find legally, and if possible... too much of a trouble. So you had this solution, wich is handy and quick. I don't think piracy was a bad thing for me, i got to know many directors that i still follow today (bertolucci, lars von trier, da sica, truffaut, bergman, big etc) and i feel grateful to have had an alternative to enjoy world's culture, timeless movies and some blockbusters to watch with the family, living on a budget (college life with no job at that time). Thanks to that kind of distribution i met a lot of people who also enjoyed culture, and made a cultural club that now is an official magazine. I'm not trying to vindicate piracy, just showing that having access to art, in all forms, make your life richer. And that's a good thing about piracy, can't argue with that.
I'm from Peru, I've been in that mall several times. Peru is a very unfair country. We have so much invisible boundaries consisting of skin color, economic position, power, etc. A few years ago, you could only find rich people, or pour people, no mid-class. But in the last years a very big and powerfull mid-class has emerged, due to hard work and their huge creativity. Of course, also driven by their primary needs. I can tell, they are geniuses. They can fix, copy, invent or clone ANYTHING. When I brake my Iphone or anything else, I got no worries, I know some of this guys will fix it easily and for a really low cost. Regrettably, in many cases they use these skills for corrupt purposes, as clone credit cards, documents, scams, mafias, etc. The main reason: our corrupt politicians. 99.99% of peruvian politicians are corrupt. Involved in drug trafficking, lobbies, payolas, and all that kind of stuff. So, what I'm trying to say is they resort to these businesses due to the small -almost none- support of our government. All the money for the country goes to the pockets of politicians and powerfull people. These people have sick relatives, dreams to fulfill, and much more, but unfortunately they were born on the streets, or in pour families. Is it wrong to promote an illegal business even for a good cause? I'm nobody to declare that, I'm not in their shoes, I don't have a son diyng for a lack of medicines that anybody could buy in a pharmacy. I hope my country becomes strong and righteous some day. We need an authentic leader, to clean the country of so many rats that buys houses in Europe and 100K cars, when so many people dies every day. Until that day, please remain understandable with these emerging people.
I'm a Peruvian student filmmaker and it's amazing how used we are to piracy. Yes, I do buy legal copies of many movies (mainly through Amazon, 'cause it's cheaper) and I also have a Netflix account, but I too go to Polvos Azules and buy bootlegs, and I've been doing it since I was like 10. It's the only way I can watch certain movies (mainly indies and oldies) and the only way I can watch all the movies I'm interested in. If I bought all the films I like/wanna watch legally, I'd be broke. They're ridiculously expensive in here =/
Terra Terridian We could pay an entertainment tax so that actors get paid a graded government salary and must give out all digital media for free. So no longer will celebrities make more than firemen or policemen. How many people do you know that absolutely don't watch TV, movies, or listen to music? Everyone would be willing to pay this tax to have free media. The majority indulges in entertainment so if we paid an entertainment tax and in exchange all digital forms of media was free, it would only attract REAL artists who are not in it for the money. The quality of media would increase and people would still pay money to see movies in a theater for the "theater experience" they can't get at home. People would still pay to see live musical concerts they can't get at home. The artists can still make good money and we make digital media free. Someone can still buy the DVD or BluRay but this stuff should be downloadable on the internet with no penalty. Nearly everyone disagrees with war and yet our tax dollars still go to support it either way.
E V E R Y K I N D. (there are even motels and hostels that have hidden cameras in the rooms and film you without your consent...then you can find yourself in a "compilation" video sold for S/.3 )
lived in peru in 2006, went there and bought loads of movies. the place is amazing, not far from there they are all about computer software. and all within 500 meters of the palace of justice.
Never underestimate, those people known much more about cine than people who go every weekend to cinemas. Yes Im talking about independent movies adn so on ... Pasaje 18 - #Lima , Perú.
that´s true! Santos got me Truffaut´s "Une histoire d'eau" (ft. Godard) a movie that I´ve been looking for a long time... I realize that´s the only place were we can buy pleasure for the eyes: indie or new wave.... Rohmer, Buñuel, Chabrol, Bresson, Renoir, Bergman, Rossellini....
I never really thought this was something to be reported. This is a huge/common thing in most non-first-world countries. Hell, it was even popular in New York years back. Hell, it's even hard to find a single person who hasn't pirated or purchased bootleg films or music in the US.
they're trying to show more than people having one pirate dvd in their house... you can find film directors from around the world going to pasaje 18 to get dvds that they can't find in other places. it's not hollywood on dvd, it's Truffaut, Bergman... classic movies can be bought for 2 bucks! only in peru...
As a peruvian myself I can tell you that buying bootlegs movies is way easier than buying the original ones since the lack of original DVDs, you can't find something you like and also they are very expensive so buying bootlegs movies is very convinient for us :/
Jealous AJ, the only piracy I have ever seen was in KL and Damascus and they only had blockbuster titles in shit quality. If the subject of copyright law entices you I recommend you buy and read the book "The Intellectual Monopoly" Cheers
I used to go to Polvos Azules when my dad was ambassador in Lima and I used to visit him. Damn! I would buy Louis Vuitton purses for $20 and wallets for $5. Polos for $15. They would pirate anything. My parents became like film connoisseurs
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I was just in Lima for awhile.. I think it's awesome that they pirate movies.. I remember them having movies I haven't even heard of yet because they were so new. It's one thing to steal a painting it's another to take a picture of that painting and hang it up in your house..
***** as someone who actually owns a music studio.. I would have to strongly disagree.. I have a lot of original files of songs.. but if someone else has that song also that's not stealing no matter how they got it unless it's for commercial use.. art should be free for everyone especially because it's digital... if you find money on the ground and you pick it up it's not stealing is it?
***** "Present day digital files will not ever be sold as "originals"" so what? it's not the end of the world. do you think it's fair to charge 14 bucks for a cd that the artist maybe gets 50 cents for it. the harm is to people who have to pay for a shitty cd with one good song and over pay. also artists make money with concerts and merch which also by the way is where most artists make most of their money even before the internet was around.. "If art should be free, how does your music studio stay open? Is it a charitable organization because I doubt it falls anything short of a business enterprise. Unless its a set up you have in a basement and you work in the mornings. But then I dont know if I would call that a studio then." obviously you have no idea what your talking about a music studio is gear put together to record music .. there are a lot of different kinds of studios ..it's not some intellectual concept like your making it out to be... i'm also a music engineer so your comment actually made me lol since i hand built most of it.. as far as money goes.. people pay me for what i do so what do i care about copy-write laws unless someone is using it for commercial use? "How come its okay for someone to use your song as long as its not for commercial use? because you want to be compensated for it?" because i don't want some company i don't agree with using my music to make money and if i do like that company then because they are making money off my art and it wont violate anyone's rights for me to get my money from them.. how are you going to stop piracy unless you censor the entire internet which by the way couldn't ever happen for people who know how to get around it.. so what are you going to do then search peoples computers and phones and then put them in jail if they can't prove they bought the song? who carries that kind of information with them? "You can have a picture of the Mona Lisa, but it will NEVER be the original. The same cannot be said for digital files and so the integrity of the piece of art and the artist has to be protected somehow. " what about when they sold records it was just a copy too.. but at least you got something for it.. i still buy vinyl and rip it to my computer for when i listen to music in my car which is legal..but i buy vinyl because it's still the best way to still get quality music.. vinyl still sounds better than wav files the problem is that you can't enforce copywrite laws unless you totally take peoples rights away and if it's a choice between some select group of people making money or everyone having their rights not violated i'm going to side with the not violating rights especially when places like Peru where they couldn't afford it if they did have to pay for it.. do you really think people are going to stop making music if they can't sell it?
I have always been amazed at the wealth of titles available in much of Asia as bootlegs. Even in countries like Burma (okay, "Myanmar") and Laos there were American and European independent films and classics, including French "nouvelle vague" or Italian cinema. Hell, Fellini and Bergman! More and better selection than in any Blockbuster.
There's piracy on books as well. I got hundreds of them even in English. I can afford an original book but the pirate ones are 4 or 5 times cheaper #YOLO
un compatriota con imagen de perfil de quetzal, bueno lo mejor es que cada vez hay más facilidades para no tener que piratear, cada quien tiene sus prioridades y al menos en el medios artistico que más respeto me he vuelto un coleccionista y espero no tener que volver a piratear, con otros medios ya es otra historia.
maybe a decade ago people bought movies from these places, but now everybody downloads their movies from torrents or netflix that is quite cheap in Peru around 15 soles per month. another thing NETFLIX HAS EVERYTHING BUT EVERYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO WATCH.
There are still restrictions on what netflix can stream into a certain country and if you actually watched this video he says internet is hard to come by
I pay to get all netflix regions... (unblock-us.com) and even so netflix takes too long to put new seasons and for me they don't have what i really want to watch. i wonder why i have it actually lol I used to buy from that guy some stuff but that was back in 2002 and before ... people don't really buy the actual dvd anymore... my friends and i think that is already too retro just like buying a cd... I get everything from iTunes or listen to music on spotify.
Luca Lozada Well, thats just "your friends and you" theres still a fuck lot of people that like to buy dvds, because even when you can torrent it, theres a lot of Short/Independent films you dont find and these guys have it, plus, you need to have a lot of memori in your hard drive to store your movies, so, its better to have a dvd.
Mutation666 If you actually bothered to read the words that he typed to form sentences, you would know that Luca Lozada is from peru and knows exactly what he's talking about, you dumb shit...
bluetextonwhitebg hahahah that's cool, Thanks buddy... but i'm already used to these trolls making comments without even reading or watching the video.
Piracy literally saves lives; in ghettos across the planet, pirated data keeps bored poor kids out of trouble, by keeping them entertained. Growing up in a shit hole neighborhood I personally witnessed the emergence of piracy keep us out of the streets causing trouble, since we were all indoors playing pirated games, and watching pirate movies. It saves lives; I'm not kidding.
I've been living in Peru for now 2 years .... And it is the most popular way of watching latest movies ... U almost never see people buy the original disks
Such a good video, that's a common problem in latin america, internet services and lack of good places to find dvd's and blu-rays make people go and buy pirate stuff... (Also the TV's, Blu-ray players and also computers are more expensive compared to USA, or other places)... Atte: a fellow Mexican.
True, there needs to be access to art; however, it is impossible to think that piracy is ok. True, actors get paid, directors get paid, everyone involved in making those movies gets paid something. Nobody works for free (or be forced to work for free). Same thing happens with music. I'm a Peruvian musician myself, my band makes records and they are all over Polvos Azules in pirat version. Do you have any idea how much did it cost us to make that record? Do you think we did it for free? This is not right. There has to be some way to have access to art/music and ensure artists get a return to make a living.
I have over 8000 rare obscure and out of print move in my collection just few days ago. I found. Dracula Portuguese one movie banned on Portugal for the Regimen Military this movie was destroy all existence Inc the original negatives and the crew was killed
Aquí en Latinoamerica es muy difícil encontrar películas de cine de Arte como las que distribuyen ellos, pensando bien, ellos no hacen ningún mal, al contrario hacen el bien al dejar que las demás personas se llenen de cultura con las películas..
Si hacen tanto bien, que las regalen, porque según ellos son "difusores" o en todo caso que cobren solo la materia prima? Lo primero que responden es: "Por qué voy a regalar "MI" trabajo? Jaja!
I don't know how to feel about piratery in my country. I only know that because of this I know so much more about films, about life, about everything, thanks.
Well I’m from Mexico and honestly it’s really normal to have pirated movies instead of originals, my parents always got my movies like that, if you have tons of DVDs and stuff then you’re probably rich, of course it’s not that common anymore with the internet and streaming services
I live in Colombia and im always surprised at the variety of international and independant film found in the pirate market here. Sometimes you just find stuff by pure chance that ends up being great. I have a pretty big collection. Between my stuff and my kids were probably at a thousand pirate DVDs in this household. Do the math, I usually buy 3 at a time at 3 for 5000 COP roughly equivalent to 2 dollars and change. Alot of people live off of this work, Ive been buying off the same guy for years. Ive got movies that not even my friends in the first world have! =)
Support a five-year copyright without extension. Then, a lot of this "piracy" becomes exactly what it already is: an opportunity for all people regardless of class, and a method of preserving culture. All copyright law is today is a series of tollbooths and the attempt to reduce participation in culture to that of a passive consumer instead of an active participant. Most of the "value" of a title to publishers comes within the first five years, anyway. After that, it quickly becomes a case of re-marketing, re-branding, and re-licensing existing content to new formats. There are exceptions, but very few albums are Dark Side of the Moon, very few books are The Lord of the Rings series, and very few movies are Titanic. We shouldn't make laws based on defending the top-selling titles forever, we should go back to the original intent of copyright law, which was to enrich the public domain, not impoverish it, by making sure that publishers have an ability to profit, but that term should be limited to make sure that companies don't become private vault lockers of culture. Remember, copyright isn't a *moral right*, it's a government program - a limited-term government-granted publication monopoly. We need to get back to the concept of "limited term" and we probably need a much more limited term than the original copyright law (14 years + 14 years extension), given that in 1790, culture travelled at the speed of horseback and people expected their children's lives to be roughly the same as their parents' lives. Today we expect our own lives to span a world drastically different than it was 20 prior, and culture travels across the world at the speed of light. We need a more limited copyright than we had in 1790, and instead, we have "forever minus a day" copyright which is not only exactly the opposite of the intent of the original law, it's actually unconstitutional. And lest you think this is strictly about US law, remember, the US's corporate-funded politicians are the ones attempting to make every other country pass copyright laws compatible with our own.
I'm from Perú, and i do buy original DVD's, CD's and books, and i like to go to the cinema but only if i really really like them, but i also bought bootleg movies, and it was just because if you just want to see a movie, buy the original DVD would cost you like $20 , belive it or not, that's a lot of money here...
+valeria rodriguez Claro, Polvoz azules queda en el cercado de Lima, en la paralela a la Av. Grau, antes de llegar a la Vía Expresa, una vez dentro el pasaje 18 queda en el segundo piso.... y no es el único lugar para comprar películas clásicas o de culto, también está el Jirón Quilca. Es de Lima? si vive en Lima, entonces mi referencia le será de mucha ayuda.
Two key words in attempt to balancing copyright law and piracy are "access and renumeration". Piracy can be stopped by creating great stuff, make it easy to buy or making content available digitally, make FAIR PRICE!, and make it works on any device. What makes more sense is to better understand the needs of consumers and make sure every barrier to legal consumption goes away.
I know the first guy, he moved from VHS to DVD in the early 2000's. I remember him from the VHS advent in 1999. He had everything: classic, old, new, about to be playing and even porn showcased lol which, as an anecdote, he secretly hid when he saw me coming with my parents (I was 9 years old) lol But I agree, piracy is the only way media can be distributed in a country with such poor network infrastructure like Peru. As of 2013, a very expensive internet service (150 Dollars a month) could get you barely 50MB. It can only be afforded by the top 5%. I do remember they also sold documentaries, concerts, presentations and even conferences of very interesting topics. There was no other way but via piracy since everything else was so expensive!
Been there seen that, the guy is right in most areas like movie companies not even distributing some movies in those countries because of "lack of a market" or some other excuse. Broadband has really caught-on in those countries but a lot of the clientele of these guys tend to be people over 30 who don't know a thing about torrents. About taste well, 99% of the people I saw were buying crap movies, but so does everyone else in the first world.
Even if they tried to bring some 'new' movies to the dvd market, people would still but pirated because of the economy. I know it has gotten better since I lived there (2009) , but it's still bad.. And I don't know where the hell people get that we only have shit movies theres, as far as I remember when I lived there we always had the newest movies/games on dvd's....
Is not about newest, is about quality and again that happens everywhere: people in general no matter which country prefer dumb blockbuster movies over say independent or auteur. Not that some of those don't suck as well...
I must say you are completely mistaken with your opinion about the age of the clients. It is true that a lot of clients are over 30 but their better clients are young college people, we buy a lot of movies there.
Still is the only and best way to find movies. I've got 20/30 Godzilla movies, 16 on Blu-Ray and 4 on DVD, the originals are around 60-80 US$ on Amazon / eBay / Blu-Ray . com. I might have a lot of money, but I'm not made of gold.
It's high time the prices are brought down..what these people don't realise that decreasing prices will only get more people in...also online downloading at nominal prices and dvd on demand at nominal price should be there for countries with slow internet...
Yo era un asiduo a comprar pelas en Polvos hasta hace un par de años, pero ahora soy full pirate bay...lo malo es que ya se está llenando mi disco de 2 Tb :(
I´m peruvian, my english is bad...sorry, I buy movies in Polvos azules, because I love the seventh art, I go to the cinema and I pay for see a movie of Tarantino, Allen, Cohen, and others because they produce movies now. but the old and good movies of Polanski, Cronenberg, Kurosawa, Fellini, Tery Gilliam, etc. documentals, independent films We cant buy because not all the people have a salary of $280 per month, I´m cinephile and I have 564 movies in my home, all my movies are pirates except 2, I love the movies but in Perú the life is hard, the original movies have a cost of $10 or $20 dollars, $45 is my breakfast one month. This documental is amazing because this is the reality, if you love the good cine you need to go to polvos azules and if you love the cine go to the cinema.
Thats fucking dope, Sucks that Peru has such slow net connection. I had no idea, I got a few friends that live in Lima too. I could only imagine how the music bootlegging industry is over there whoa lol. But could you imagine how expensive a pack of 100 CD-R/DVD-r are? I bet their over priced from hell since everyone is bootlegging. And even if they order the CDs from Ebay not everyone ships outside the US. Harsh life right there but I bet its making damn good money for the shops already setup.
Thats really nice if they make remuxes with all the different voice/subtitle translation (because remux is much easier to play than bdmv/original blu-ray). But if its lq shit like TS on a CD - meh
Peru has netflix now, and i haven't bought a single pirate movie since i got netflix and 10MB speed connection. Times are changing but back in the day, this was the only way to enjoy world's movies... and today, for many poor people, it still is.
Internet it's too expensive, 10 MB is a luxury. I've a Neflix app but I preferred to skip it until the Internet providers upgrade their internet plans. It's just too expensive.
imo there is absolutely nothing wrong with this practice at all, for a country like this I wouldn't even call this piracy. I find it fascinating how when there is restricted access to a thing (such as films in this example) the level of appreciation/taste is higher, its like the search or work towards finding something creates a higher understanding as opposed to no exploration and being told by the media what to like and watch, going out on your own and searching for what you're interested in creates a deeper connection if that makes sense
fairly priced for who?
@@mkn.567 For the poor people.
Nicely put.
Growing up in a third world country, this brought back so many memories. We would go down to the local stores and buy bootlegs of games, movies, music, whatever, all for less than 2 USD each. Pirated copies were the only option, there was no distribution of legal copies at all.
I used to buy pirate movies in polvos azules when i was in college, back in 2005. Classic and independent cinema was nearly impossible to find legally, and if possible... too much of a trouble. So you had this solution, wich is handy and quick. I don't think piracy was a bad thing for me, i got to know many directors that i still follow today (bertolucci, lars von trier, da sica, truffaut, bergman, big etc) and i feel grateful to have had an alternative to enjoy world's culture, timeless movies and some blockbusters to watch with the family, living on a budget (college life with no job at that time). Thanks to that kind of distribution i met a lot of people who also enjoyed culture, and made a cultural club that now is an official magazine. I'm not trying to vindicate piracy, just showing that having access to art, in all forms, make your life richer. And that's a good thing about piracy, can't argue with that.
"Difundir cultura,democratizar conocimiento" bien dicho Santos.
I'm from Peru, I've been in that mall several times. Peru is a very unfair country. We have so much invisible boundaries consisting of skin color, economic position, power, etc. A few years ago, you could only find rich people, or pour people, no mid-class. But in the last years a very big and powerfull mid-class has emerged, due to hard work and their huge creativity. Of course, also driven by their primary needs.
I can tell, they are geniuses. They can fix, copy, invent or clone ANYTHING. When I brake my Iphone or anything else, I got no worries, I know some of this guys will fix it easily and for a really low cost. Regrettably, in many cases they use these skills for corrupt purposes, as clone credit cards, documents, scams, mafias, etc.
The main reason: our corrupt politicians. 99.99% of peruvian politicians are corrupt. Involved in drug trafficking, lobbies, payolas, and all that kind of stuff. So, what I'm trying to say is they resort to these businesses due to the small -almost none- support of our government. All the money for the country goes to the pockets of politicians and powerfull people.
These people have sick relatives, dreams to fulfill, and much more, but unfortunately they were born on the streets, or in pour families. Is it wrong to promote an illegal business even for a good cause? I'm nobody to declare that, I'm not in their shoes, I don't have a son diyng for a lack of medicines that anybody could buy in a pharmacy.
I hope my country becomes strong and righteous some day. We need an authentic leader, to clean the country of so many rats that buys houses in Europe and 100K cars, when so many people dies every day. Until that day, please remain understandable with these emerging people.
ese es mi pasaje 18, UNICO EN EL MUNDO!!!!!! Vengan a lima- peru, en este lugar encontrarán peliculas que ni en Europa misma la podrían conseguir!!
xD jaja si
Esto es "Marca Perú" y no huevadas.
Jajajajaja
I'm a Peruvian student filmmaker and it's amazing how used we are to piracy. Yes, I do buy legal copies of many movies (mainly through Amazon, 'cause it's cheaper) and I also have a Netflix account, but I too go to Polvos Azules and buy bootlegs, and I've been doing it since I was like 10. It's the only way I can watch certain movies (mainly indies and oldies) and the only way I can watch all the movies I'm interested in. If I bought all the films I like/wanna watch legally, I'd be broke. They're ridiculously expensive in here =/
Free information for the masses, today piracy is socially accepted.
Rough subject, i think it should be free, but then where the money for the film makers? Thats a question for a smart person, not mwa!
Terra Terridian We could pay an entertainment tax so that actors get paid a graded government salary and must give out all digital media for free. So no longer will celebrities make more than firemen or policemen. How many people do you know that absolutely don't watch TV, movies, or listen to music? Everyone would be willing to pay this tax to have free media.
The majority indulges in entertainment so if we paid an entertainment tax and in exchange all digital forms of media was free, it would only attract REAL artists who are not in it for the money. The quality of media would increase and people would still pay money to see movies in a theater for the "theater experience" they can't get at home. People would still pay to see live musical concerts they can't get at home. The artists can still make good money and we make digital media free.
Someone can still buy the DVD or BluRay but this stuff should be downloadable on the internet with no penalty.
Nearly everyone disagrees with war and yet our tax dollars still go to support it either way.
WaIter White i like your idea, but i don't like low budget movies.............
There is another section where they sell tons of porn movies
indie porn movies?
E V E R Y K I N D. (there are even motels and hostels that have hidden cameras in the rooms and film you without your consent...then you can find yourself in a "compilation" video sold for S/.3 )
@@HunterKnightCustoms I remember that being common in places like Polvos and other galleries
@@GabrielOmar-yg2wt the good times 🤣🤣🤣
Best ending ever
lived in peru in 2006, went there and bought loads of movies. the place is amazing, not far from there they are all about computer software. and all within 500 meters of the palace of justice.
Never underestimate, those people known much more about cine than people who go every weekend to cinemas. Yes Im talking about independent movies adn so on ... Pasaje 18 - #Lima , Perú.
that´s true! Santos got me Truffaut´s "Une histoire d'eau" (ft. Godard) a movie that I´ve been looking for a long time... I realize that´s the only place were we can buy pleasure for the eyes: indie or new wave.... Rohmer, Buñuel, Chabrol, Bresson, Renoir, Bergman, Rossellini....
I lol'ed when they held up that Vice cover at the end. Watch your 6, fellas, Rupert Murdock is comin' for ya.
This is a good example of why piracy isn't all bad.
It helps spread knowledge to those who can't obtain it by other means.
I never really thought this was something to be reported. This is a huge/common thing in most non-first-world countries. Hell, it was even popular in New York years back.
Hell, it's even hard to find a single person who hasn't pirated or purchased bootleg films or music in the US.
they're trying to show more than people having one pirate dvd in their house... you can find film directors from around the world going to pasaje 18 to get dvds that they can't find in other places. it's not hollywood on dvd, it's Truffaut, Bergman... classic movies can be bought for 2 bucks! only in peru...
I live in Oakland California and there's a guy a couple blocks from my house who sells bootleg DVDs
As a peruvian myself I can tell you that buying bootlegs movies is way easier than buying the original ones since the lack of original DVDs, you can't find something you like and also they are very expensive so buying bootlegs movies is very convinient for us :/
been to Peru. Blockbuster went out of business cause of the bootlegs. Thought it was funny
I thought BB went broke in almost everywhere in the world cause of media files for free.
Jealous AJ, the only piracy I have ever seen was in KL and Damascus and they only had blockbuster titles in shit quality. If the subject of copyright law entices you I recommend you buy and read the book "The Intellectual Monopoly" Cheers
I'll look into it man! Thanks
thebarrochannel that and netflix killed BB
some blockbusters are still open in Australia
I used to go to Polvos Azules when my dad was ambassador in Lima and I used to visit him.
Damn! I would buy Louis Vuitton purses for $20 and wallets for $5.
Polos for $15. They would pirate anything.
My parents became like film connoisseurs
Proud of being peruvian :D
they got bootleg vice lol that's great.
Before moving out of Lima. I use to buy a lot of B-Movies there or hard to find documentaries. European movies that you cant really find elsewhere.
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I was just in Lima for awhile.. I think it's awesome that they pirate movies.. I remember them having movies I haven't even heard of yet because they were so new. It's one thing to steal a painting it's another to take a picture of that painting and hang it up in your house..
***** how so? I have a dslr which would make it a digital file
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as someone who actually owns a music studio.. I would have to strongly disagree.. I have a lot of original files of songs.. but if someone else has that song also that's not stealing no matter how they got it unless it's for commercial use.. art should be free for everyone especially because it's digital... if you find money on the ground and you pick it up it's not stealing is it?
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"Present day digital files will not ever be sold as "originals""
so what? it's not the end of the world. do you think it's fair to charge 14 bucks for a cd that the artist maybe gets 50 cents for it. the harm is to people who have to pay for a shitty cd with one good song and over pay. also artists make money with concerts and merch which also by the way is where most artists make most of their money even before the internet was around..
"If art should be free, how does your music studio stay open? Is it a charitable organization because I doubt it falls anything short of a business enterprise. Unless its a set up you have in a basement and you work in the mornings. But then I dont know if I would call that a studio then."
obviously you have no idea what your talking about a music studio is gear put together to record music .. there are a lot of different kinds of studios ..it's not some intellectual concept like your making it out to be... i'm also a music engineer so your comment actually made me lol since i hand built most of it.. as far as money goes.. people pay me for what i do so what do i care about copy-write laws unless someone is using it for commercial use?
"How come its okay for someone to use your song as long as its not for commercial use? because you want to be compensated for it?"
because i don't want some company i don't agree with using my music to make money and if i do like that company then because they are making money off my art and it wont violate anyone's rights for me to get my money from them.. how are you going to stop piracy unless you censor the entire internet which by the way couldn't ever happen for people who know how to get around it.. so what are you going to do then search peoples computers and phones and then put them in jail if they can't prove they bought the song? who carries that kind of information with them?
"You can have a picture of the Mona Lisa, but it will NEVER be the original. The same cannot be said for digital files and so the integrity of the piece of art and the artist has to be protected somehow. "
what about when they sold records it was just a copy too.. but at least you got something for it.. i still buy vinyl and rip it to my computer for when i listen to music in my car which is legal..but i buy vinyl because it's still the best way to still get quality music.. vinyl still sounds better than wav files
the problem is that you can't enforce copywrite laws unless you totally take peoples rights away and if it's a choice between some select group of people making money or everyone having their rights not violated i'm going to side with the not violating rights especially when places like Peru where they couldn't afford it if they did have to pay for it.. do you really think people are going to stop making music if they can't sell it?
I have always been amazed at the wealth of titles available in much of Asia as bootlegs. Even in countries like Burma (okay, "Myanmar") and Laos there were American and European independent films and classics, including French "nouvelle vague" or Italian cinema. Hell, Fellini and Bergman! More and better selection than in any Blockbuster.
There's piracy on books as well. I got hundreds of them even in English. I can afford an original book but the pirate ones are 4 or 5 times cheaper #YOLO
Yeah, books online are not all that cheap, at least at Kindle.
un compatriota con imagen de perfil de quetzal, bueno lo mejor es que cada vez hay más facilidades para no tener que piratear, cada quien tiene sus prioridades y al menos en el medios artistico que más respeto me he vuelto un coleccionista y espero no tener que volver a piratear, con otros medios ya es otra historia.
maybe a decade ago people bought movies from these places, but now everybody downloads their movies from torrents or netflix that is quite cheap in Peru around 15 soles per month. another thing NETFLIX HAS EVERYTHING BUT EVERYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO WATCH.
There are still restrictions on what netflix can stream into a certain country and if you actually watched this video he says internet is hard to come by
I pay to get all netflix regions... (unblock-us.com) and even so netflix takes too long to put new seasons and for me they don't have what i really want to watch. i wonder why i have it actually lol I used to buy from that guy some stuff but that was back in 2002 and before ... people don't really buy the actual dvd anymore... my friends and i think that is already too retro just like buying a cd... I get everything from iTunes or listen to music on spotify.
Luca Lozada Well, thats just "your friends and you" theres still a fuck lot of people that like to buy dvds, because even when you can torrent it, theres a lot of Short/Independent films you dont find and these guys have it, plus, you need to have a lot of memori in your hard drive to store your movies, so, its better to have a dvd.
Mutation666 If you actually bothered to read the words that he typed to form sentences, you would know that Luca Lozada is from peru and knows exactly what he's talking about, you dumb shit...
bluetextonwhitebg hahahah that's cool, Thanks buddy... but i'm already used to these trolls making comments without even reading or watching the video.
Piracy literally saves lives; in ghettos across the planet, pirated data keeps bored poor kids out of trouble, by keeping them entertained. Growing up in a shit hole neighborhood I personally witnessed the emergence of piracy keep us out of the streets causing trouble, since we were all indoors playing pirated games, and watching pirate movies. It saves lives; I'm not kidding.
Wow! Even bootleg VICE! Keep the pirate spirit alive, FREEDOM!!
I'm Peruvian as well! Not proud nor ashamed about piracy in Perú.
So whats the point then lol
I've been living in Peru for now 2 years .... And it is the most popular way of watching latest movies ... U almost never see people buy the original disks
Give this man a medal
Wow nice feature. Reminds me somewhat of my home country. This is why I love Motherboard.
Such a good video, that's a common problem in latin america, internet services and lack of good places to find dvd's and blu-rays make people go and buy pirate stuff... (Also the TV's, Blu-ray players and also computers are more expensive compared to USA, or other places)... Atte: a fellow Mexican.
There really is touching story/movie in this waiting to be done. A director should get on this
si alguna ves caigo en lima sabes como voy a sacarme una foto y comprarle dvds al tipo este? el mejor dia de mi vida locooooooo amo peruuuuuuuuuuu
Holy cow! I am from Lima, Peru :D
This was simply beautiful! A promoter of culture! Love it!
True, there needs to be access to art; however, it is impossible to think that piracy is ok. True, actors get paid, directors get paid, everyone involved in making those movies gets paid something. Nobody works for free (or be forced to work for free). Same thing happens with music. I'm a Peruvian musician myself, my band makes records and they are all over Polvos Azules in pirat version. Do you have any idea how much did it cost us to make that record? Do you think we did it for free? This is not right. There has to be some way to have access to art/music and ensure artists get a return to make a living.
ese es mi peru carajo, si no sabes algo, investiga con toda tu fuerza, culturizate! la gente de polvos presente para ayudar a la causa :D
Hola hando buscando un video del programa de yola polastri el tri en peru 1986 cres que lo puedas conseguir
Damn he had the dvd of what they were recording that day lol
This is the coolest thing ever
I have over 8000 rare obscure and out of print move in my collection just few days ago. I found.
Dracula Portuguese one movie banned on Portugal for the Regimen Military this movie was destroy all existence Inc the original negatives and the crew was killed
Aquí en Latinoamerica es muy difícil encontrar películas de cine de Arte como las que distribuyen ellos, pensando bien, ellos no hacen ningún mal, al contrario hacen el bien al dejar que las demás personas se llenen de cultura con las películas..
Si hacen tanto bien, que las regalen, porque según ellos son "difusores" o en todo caso que cobren solo la materia prima? Lo primero que responden es: "Por qué voy a regalar "MI" trabajo? Jaja!
Wow this is crazy, never expected to find this in vice nor see the guy who sold me movies years ago when i visited Peru and polovos azules! ESa gente!
Can you imagine an acclaimed director like Apichatpong visited your bootleg store?!
YOOO i'm peruvian and i wasn't expecting they had the VICE dvd lmao
I don't know how to feel about piratery in my country. I only know that because of this I know so much more about films, about life, about everything, thanks.
Fuuuuck. Godard, Truffaut, The Art of Killing, The Perverts' Guide to Cinema... Indeed, exquisite taste.
el pasaje 18 deberia tener su pagina web o una pagina en facebook para hacer pedidos o consultar algunos titulos
Strange, I can't seem to ge any of motherboard's videos to play. No problem with other....
Well I’m from Mexico and honestly it’s really normal to have pirated movies instead of originals, my parents always got my movies like that, if you have tons of DVDs and stuff then you’re probably rich, of course it’s not that common anymore with the internet and streaming services
Well, mostly in all latinamerican countries, you'll find stores with pirated games, movies, tv shows, softwares
I live in Colombia and im always surprised at the variety of international and independant film found in the pirate market here. Sometimes you just find stuff by pure chance that ends up being great. I have a pretty big collection. Between my stuff and my kids were probably at a thousand pirate DVDs in this household. Do the math, I usually buy 3 at a time at 3 for 5000 COP roughly equivalent to 2 dollars and change. Alot of people live off of this work, Ive been buying off the same guy for years. Ive got movies that not even my friends in the first world have! =)
Support a five-year copyright without extension. Then, a lot of this "piracy" becomes exactly what it already is: an opportunity for all people regardless of class, and a method of preserving culture. All copyright law is today is a series of tollbooths and the attempt to reduce participation in culture to that of a passive consumer instead of an active participant.
Most of the "value" of a title to publishers comes within the first five years, anyway. After that, it quickly becomes a case of re-marketing, re-branding, and re-licensing existing content to new formats. There are exceptions, but very few albums are Dark Side of the Moon, very few books are The Lord of the Rings series, and very few movies are Titanic. We shouldn't make laws based on defending the top-selling titles forever, we should go back to the original intent of copyright law, which was to enrich the public domain, not impoverish it, by making sure that publishers have an ability to profit, but that term should be limited to make sure that companies don't become private vault lockers of culture. Remember, copyright isn't a *moral right*, it's a government program - a limited-term government-granted publication monopoly.
We need to get back to the concept of "limited term" and we probably need a much more limited term than the original copyright law (14 years + 14 years extension), given that in 1790, culture travelled at the speed of horseback and people expected their children's lives to be roughly the same as their parents' lives. Today we expect our own lives to span a world drastically different than it was 20 prior, and culture travels across the world at the speed of light. We need a more limited copyright than we had in 1790, and instead, we have "forever minus a day" copyright which is not only exactly the opposite of the intent of the original law, it's actually unconstitutional.
And lest you think this is strictly about US law, remember, the US's corporate-funded politicians are the ones attempting to make every other country pass copyright laws compatible with our own.
I'm from Perú, and i do buy original DVD's, CD's and books, and i like to go to the cinema but only if i really really like them, but i also bought bootleg movies, and it was just because if you just want to see a movie, buy the original DVD would cost you like $20 , belive it or not, that's a lot of money here...
Ngl sounds great cause $1.75 for a film is a great discount!
The end of this docu, was the best of it ;-)
Correction to my previous post. Only this ONE won't play! Very strange indeed....
Es uno de mis lugares favoritos para comprar películas, les faltó poner a la señora que vende discos en el Jirón Quilca, ahí compro toda mi colección.
+Haylov Cerna Rodriguez Podrias decirme donde exactamente , o el nombre de la tienda ? porfavor.
+valeria rodriguez Claro, Polvoz azules queda en el cercado de Lima, en la paralela a la Av. Grau, antes de llegar a la Vía Expresa, una vez dentro el pasaje 18 queda en el segundo piso.... y no es el único lugar para comprar películas clásicas o de culto, también está el Jirón Quilca. Es de Lima? si vive en Lima, entonces mi referencia le será de mucha ayuda.
+Haylov Cerna Rodriguez Gracias ,si soy de Lima !!
Makes me feel bad for everyone who doesn't have access to broadband. Netflix should run their own fiber to Lima and become an ISP there.
What a great video idk why but I found it really interesting, viva LA knowledge!!!
Hyman Strachman, in his mid-nineties and has pirated over 300,000 movies and sent to the troops since 2004.
Two key words in attempt to balancing copyright law and piracy are "access and renumeration". Piracy can be stopped by creating great stuff, make it easy to buy or making content available digitally, make FAIR PRICE!, and make it works on any device. What makes more sense is to better understand the needs of consumers and make sure every barrier to legal consumption goes away.
This made me happy. Esp. the last disc they showed. :>
Santos es un icono en la difusion cultural latinoamericana. Lo adoramos.
Get that store to the netherlands!
not that different from indonesia :|
maybe, we sell many trash movies, hollywod-ish and dangdut.
or russia, 10 years ago. Now internet speeds are way up so its easier to download. (about as fast as the US, but considerably cheaper)
I know the first guy, he moved from VHS to DVD in the early 2000's. I remember him from the VHS advent in 1999. He had everything: classic, old, new, about to be playing and even porn showcased lol which, as an anecdote, he secretly hid when he saw me coming with my parents (I was 9 years old) lol But I agree, piracy is the only way media can be distributed in a country with such poor network infrastructure like Peru. As of 2013, a very expensive internet service (150 Dollars a month) could get you barely 50MB. It can only be afforded by the top 5%. I do remember they also sold documentaries, concerts, presentations and even conferences of very interesting topics. There was no other way but via piracy since everything else was so expensive!
hey, is internet access nowadays as expensive as it was 4 years ago when u wrote that?
What a great work
Proud to have walked those streets as a kid
📀God bless the DVD man
The ending made me smile
Awesome video.
This is awesome!
I love these guys! Nice!
wait so does he sell movies before they come out in theatres or after
Been there seen that, the guy is right in most areas like movie companies not even distributing some movies in those countries because of "lack of a market" or some other excuse. Broadband has really caught-on in those countries but a lot of the clientele of these guys tend to be people over 30 who don't know a thing about torrents. About taste well, 99% of the people I saw were buying crap movies, but so does everyone else in the first world.
Even if they tried to bring some 'new' movies to the dvd market, people would still but pirated because of the economy. I know it has gotten better since I lived there (2009) , but it's still bad..
And I don't know where the hell people get that we only have shit movies theres, as far as I remember when I lived there we always had the newest movies/games on dvd's....
Is not about newest, is about quality and again that happens everywhere: people in general no matter which country prefer dumb blockbuster movies over say independent or auteur. Not that some of those don't suck as well...
This is pretty much the same picture all over Latin America, in Argentina at least it's just the same deal.
I must say you are completely mistaken with your opinion about the age of the clients. It is true that a lot of clients are over 30 but their better clients are young college people, we buy a lot of movies there.
I'm just going by what I saw, and older people outnumbered the young 3 to 1
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Still is the only and best way to find movies. I've got 20/30 Godzilla movies, 16 on Blu-Ray and 4 on DVD, the originals are around 60-80 US$ on Amazon / eBay / Blu-Ray . com. I might have a lot of money, but I'm not made of gold.
It's high time the prices are brought down..what these people don't realise that decreasing prices will only get more people in...also online downloading at nominal prices and dvd on demand at nominal price should be there for countries with slow internet...
Bootlegs are all over , They have big families and it provide an alternative to going out.
Hahaha I love that they had Vice's HBO series, long live the pirates! Arrrrrr.
costumers?
I think you've got a typo vice
The mpaa is going to send you a bill for 1 billion dollars.
Yo era un asiduo a comprar pelas en Polvos hasta hace un par de años, pero ahora soy full pirate bay...lo malo es que ya se está llenando mi disco de 2 Tb :(
Puedes comprar almacenamiento en la nube jajaja
polvos azules forever
Yo this is crazy diggin for movies dope !!!
Knowledge= Power
I´m peruvian, my english is bad...sorry, I buy movies in Polvos azules, because I love the seventh art, I go to the cinema and I pay for see a movie of Tarantino, Allen, Cohen, and others because they produce movies now. but the old and good movies of Polanski, Cronenberg, Kurosawa, Fellini, Tery Gilliam, etc. documentals, independent films We cant buy because not all the people have a salary of $280 per month, I´m cinephile and I have 564 movies in my home, all my movies are pirates except 2, I love the movies but in Perú the life is hard, the original movies have a cost of $10 or $20 dollars, $45 is my breakfast one month. This documental is amazing because this is the reality, if you love the good cine you need to go to polvos azules and if you love the cine go to the cinema.
Thats fucking dope, Sucks that Peru has such slow net connection. I had no idea, I got a few friends that live in Lima too. I could only imagine how the music bootlegging industry is over there whoa lol. But could you imagine how expensive a pack of 100 CD-R/DVD-r are? I bet their over priced from hell since everyone is bootlegging. And even if they order the CDs from Ebay not everyone ships outside the US. Harsh life right there but I bet its making damn good money for the shops already setup.
Thats really nice if they make remuxes with all the different voice/subtitle translation (because remux is much easier to play than bdmv/original blu-ray). But if its lq shit like TS on a CD - meh
everyone should see "blue is the warmest colour" yummy
I promise you I will
Oye, pero asî lo expones!!! Que tal que ahora le cae la policîa y le cierran el kiosko????
:S
Bootleg Vice too? He's good.
Which ever is cheaper, who cares if Disney gets their cut for 20 year old movies or not.
Wait is this just Peru's Netflix?
Peru has netflix now, and i haven't bought a single pirate movie since i got netflix and 10MB speed connection. Times are changing but back in the day, this was the only way to enjoy world's movies... and today, for many poor people,
it still is.
Internet it's too expensive, 10 MB is a luxury. I've a Neflix app but I preferred to skip it until the Internet providers upgrade their internet plans. It's just too expensive.
@@limagris En netflix no tienes a Godard, Truffaut, etc.
India and Bangladesh pirate like it's normal. I've never seen a non-pirated copy their in my life.
Polvos Azules(reino de piratería)
song name?
Los Protones - Vampiros (en Burzaco)
"Santos Demonios"