Glad you loved it! Actually, this part of the discussion does not seem interesting to most of the audience. But in our opinion, this is very important to get familiar with the reality of the actual work! Of course, we did not go so deep and tried to just talk about the gist of the datasheet. Anyways, thank you for mentioning this point and you're very welcome!
One of the best channel out there which explains in depth about the automation process control. Thanks for digging into the datasheets of different devices which takes explanation to another level. Keep up the good work champs!
Awesome video, everything is very very nicely explained! Can't wait to see the same application by using PID function! Looking forward to watch it. Thank you very much!
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Thank YOU so much! :) We try to even increase the quality of the videos. Thanks again for watching and please share this video with your friends and colleagues to spread the word.
thanks and greettings from Chile, great aport for the knowledge of everybody , i am using so much automatism for my project now , and can understand better now the automatism ,
where to find the following videos about PID control tuning and other PID controllers, like mentioned at the end of the video? video is very informative. nicely done.
This a different level of explanation! Honestly, this is the best explanation of an automated control cycle that I've watched. Hope to see more videos of the same calibre. I registered to you website but nothing seems happening there at that moment. Any progress on that?
Hi there! It's really awesome to hear that! Thank you very much for being such a fantastic fan! About the website, we're actually working on some courses about PLC programming, but I don't think it will be ready anytime sooner than three months.
d’accord très bien expliqué ton cours j'ai très bien compris l'utilité du pid. dans le même sens j'aimerais équipé une chaudière de 350ml de ma machine à café avec résistance immergée ; la question : quelle reference pid avec ssr je dois m'acheter sur le marché pour établir un cycle d'asservissement bien rigoureux. comme vous savez y'a beaucoup de references et ce n'est pas évident de faire un choix. très cordialement.
@@Upmation OK, question then: So I have one board that has triac on output, and on input it has 2 pins: 1) zero crossing output, 2) PWM input. When used with ESP32, using PWM duty cycle from 0-100 the triac on the output "modifies" the sine wave - like in one of your examples (phase control mode) - it switches on with the delay so it is quite fast reaction. But this board is very low output - probably no more than 1A continuously. Then I have SSR-25DA - this one however only does "on/off" (standard mode) - is there any way to control DA type SSR the same way the 1st board is controlled? Or only the VA type can be controlled this way? Or another way: does it make any difference for the heater controller I am building if I use phase or standard mode, as it seems that if the standard one will last ON only until the cycle goes through zero, that means that ON/OFF can happen (if synchronized I think) even 50 times per second. Right? Bigger problem however is the inertia of heater - I am still playing with Kp, Ki and Kd to find a good spot where all these 3 variables will make things working as I want: fast heating, no overshooting, steady state when setpoint reached and then if the setpoint changed - reacts the same way as at the beginning (I am working on SMD hot plate btw.). Thx
Outstanding explanation. Looking forward to the next video on this subject (PID tuning and different types of PID). By far the best videos I have seen on this subject. Congrats.
Great tutorial. Can you help me with controlling water temperature with a SSR and capillary thermostat ? What the wiring and the powering of the SSR will be?
I want to add PID temperature control to my 240VAC instant hot water heater. What controller and sensor would you recommend? Is there such a thing as proportional heater control? A heater controller that factors in flow rate?
Brilliant presentations , keep up the good work. Do you have some kind of explanation regarding P , I and D settings of the controller. Do we ever change these values or it is set by the manufacturer? Thank you for sharing the knowledge. I am an electrical engineer working on ships as Second Electro-technical officer and kudos towards the whole team :D
Hey, Steven! Thank you for your comment and support! Great to hear you liked the videos this much! I'm afraid, we do not have such a video but I will transfer your thoughts to the team. Thanks again!
Could you do a video on controlling a heating element in water using a PID -- and efficiency of SSR vs SCR? I have an 8KW Atmor tankless water heater that has two switched heating elements. I want to add stable electronic temperature control. But I can't find good information about the different options! Seems the PID + SSR MAY have longer switching time, and that MAY reduce heating element life from thermal cycling vs a higher speed SCR. But I am having trouble finding the real answer.
@@Upmation to follow up, it seems zero-crossing SSR is the way to go, because of the thermal mass of the heating element plus the switching time of the SSR are more than fast enough to preserve the life of the heating element. The SCR seems to be useful for motor control and dimming. Unless operated at the zero crossing (like most SSRs), SCRs can have a detrimental effect on the power system: lower power factor and harmonics that may cause radio frequency interference (RFI) or even affect the operation of other equipment.
Hi there, Obinna! I did not see them to be connected directly to an AC load! They can be connected to power controllers (Thyristor panels), Triacs, SSRs, etc. But directly to the AC load? I don't think so!
Oh! Hope to watch more videos regarding PID controller. By the way, may I know where we on the PID output. What kind of SSR should we use and the control setting? (phase control output with using Zero type SSR?)
@Upmation Hello, i want ask. I have extruder for PVC hose extrusion and it has 8 temperature controllers ASCON K49. These controllers are switching zero crossing SSR. I dont understand one thing. When i turn up machine for heat up, these controllers interuptly switching on and off while heating up. Setpoint is 200 celsium but it behaves like this while actual temperature is for example 100C, just in "heating up mode". Delay between switching is approximately 0.5 sec. Is it some protection against burn of heating band? Can these bands burn off if would be switched on until it hit setponit? Thank you for possible answer :)
Can I controll 9 heaters of injection molding machine from one pid controller or one pid and multiple output controller is available for multiple output for heater
How to identify/differentiate between SSR output/ relay output on PID Temperature controller. If SSR is not mentioned but voltage pulse is mentioned. I am confused is voltage pulse & SSR output same?
Hi! I currently have the same model series of PID (TCN4S-24R) and I’m having a hard time setting my own cycle control time. When I go to cycle, it doesn’t allow to select a duty cycle time or anything like that, only for standard can I go up to 120 seconds. Am I missing a subtle setting? Any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you!
We are use heater then we are shown the temperature is raising gradually for a short time (what problem occur in this situation) ssr problem ond other problem?
If the temperature is rising gradually then everything is OK! If it is rising quickly within a short period of time it might be related to your temperature indicator/controller or your temperature sensor. Make sure that they are both functioning correctly by measuring the temperature with a Pyrometer at the same time.
Absolutely fantastic. I love how you've included how to read the data sheet. That's often overlooked. Great content thank you.
Glad you loved it! Actually, this part of the discussion does not seem interesting to most of the audience. But in our opinion, this is very important to get familiar with the reality of the actual work! Of course, we did not go so deep and tried to just talk about the gist of the datasheet. Anyways, thank you for mentioning this point and you're very welcome!
Keep sharing those parts
@@Upmation
Hope to your next PID tunning video soon 😁
It cannot be better than this. So professional flawless content. Thanks for sharing.
Wow! Thank you, Saeid! Please let us know if you have any kind of suggestions.
God bless you mate God bless you ! i was looking for a channel like this for an eternity ! so simple so clear ! perfection !
Thank you very much! It's really awesome to hear that! Cheers!
I'm impressed. This is probably one of the best videos explaining and pointing out events in a timing diagram.
Amazing! Thanks a lot for the compliment! Please share this video with your friends in other social media platforms.
One of the best channel out there which explains in depth about the automation process control. Thanks for digging into the datasheets of different devices which takes explanation to another level. Keep up the good work champs!
You're very welcome, Muhammad! and thanks a lot for your support.
Really professional this video, keep doing it guys .
Thank you, Cássio! Sure we will. Please stay tuned.
Video with great content and unparalleled quality. Thanks Upmation.
Hey, Golnaz! Thank you very much for your comment and support! Please stay tuned for more.
Awesome video, everything is very very nicely explained! Can't wait to see the same application by using PID function! Looking forward to watch it. Thank you very much!
Hi, Burak! Glad you liked it this much. Please stay tuned for the next episodes and share this part with your friends or colleagues. Thank you!
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All of your videos are really a Huge Help Continue Uploading😊
More! More! Please.
Hey! Thank you for the list of suggestions. I will definitely transfer them to the team.
@@Upmation Thank you So Much♥️
Thank you Upmation!!
Welcome, Emmanuel! Thanks for watching!
Great efforts to help others.
thank you very much, your voice and explanation are from another level, hope your channel will get more sub in the future
You're very welcome! Thank you for your compliments. We hope so :)
You did a great job man, thank you very much 👏👏👏
You're very welcome, Oussama! And thank you for your support.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge again. 🙏
Hey! Welcome and thank YOU for being such a supportive fan! Stay tuned!
What a wonderful and amazing video, really great thank you very very much
You're very welcome! Amazing to hear that! Please stay tuned.
Very clear, very helpful. Thanks very much
You're very welcome! :)
Thanks Upmation
Hey, Bitebo! You're very welcome! Thank you for watching!
Very good information, can you please share the next part of this video related to PID control
That's the best you've ever done!
Hey, Parinaz! It's great to hear that! Unfortunately, it had the least impact on the audience! Btw, keep in touch! :)
Amazing, very helpful, informative and interesting video..I urge you to continue on the same basis and quality, thank you so much.
Thank YOU so much! :) We try to even increase the quality of the videos. Thanks again for watching and please share this video with your friends and colleagues to spread the word.
Thank's a lot . I cant wait for part 2
where is part 2?
detailed explained,very nice,Thank you
You're very welcome!
Excellent video!!!!
Glad you liked it! Cheers!
thanks and greettings from Chile, great aport for the knowledge of everybody , i am using so much automatism for my project now , and can understand better now the automatism ,
Hey, Nelson! Happy to have you here! It's amazing to hear this video helped you! Good luck with your project.
Thank you Sir for your explanation
Welcome!
Thank you for the video!!!I learned a lot:)
Thank you for always being supportive! Happy you liked it!
What a great job ! Thank you.
Welcome, Adekola!
where to find the following videos about PID control tuning and other PID controllers, like mentioned at the end of the video?
video is very informative. nicely done.
Thank you for your comment and support! We have not published that yet. Please stay tuned.
Important and useful video
Hey! Thank you! Please let us now if you have any suggestions.
This a different level of explanation! Honestly, this is the best explanation of an automated control cycle that I've watched. Hope to see more videos of the same calibre. I registered to you website but nothing seems happening there at that moment. Any progress on that?
Hi there! It's really awesome to hear that! Thank you very much for being such a fantastic fan!
About the website, we're actually working on some courses about PLC programming, but I don't think it will be ready anytime sooner than three months.
@@Upmation hi, can you help
What is the reason for the appearance of the message 9999?
Well done Sir. Thanis
You're welcome, Ramzi!
d’accord très bien expliqué ton cours j'ai très bien compris l'utilité du pid. dans le même sens j'aimerais équipé une chaudière de 350ml de ma machine à café avec résistance immergée ; la question : quelle reference pid avec ssr je dois m'acheter sur le marché pour établir un cycle d'asservissement bien rigoureux. comme vous savez y'a beaucoup de references et ce n'est pas évident de faire un choix.
très cordialement.
Thank you for the video
You're welcome, Adel!
I cannot see the follow up video about PID itself, right? SUPERB VIDEOS you guys are doing!
Yes, we have not provided that video yet. Thank you for your comment and compliment! This is great to hear you liked the videos.
@@Upmation (I think) I finally understood the 3 different ways of driving AC using SSR. Once I implement I will see if I did ;-)
@@zyghom Hope so :) Let us know if you had any questions down the road
@@Upmation OK, question then: So I have one board that has triac on output, and on input it has 2 pins: 1) zero crossing output, 2) PWM input. When used with ESP32, using PWM duty cycle from 0-100 the triac on the output "modifies" the sine wave - like in one of your examples (phase control mode) - it switches on with the delay so it is quite fast reaction. But this board is very low output - probably no more than 1A continuously. Then I have SSR-25DA - this one however only does "on/off" (standard mode) - is there any way to control DA type SSR the same way the 1st board is controlled? Or only the VA type can be controlled this way? Or another way: does it make any difference for the heater controller I am building if I use phase or standard mode, as it seems that if the standard one will last ON only until the cycle goes through zero, that means that ON/OFF can happen (if synchronized I think) even 50 times per second. Right? Bigger problem however is the inertia of heater - I am still playing with Kp, Ki and Kd to find a good spot where all these 3 variables will make things working as I want: fast heating, no overshooting, steady state when setpoint reached and then if the setpoint changed - reacts the same way as at the beginning (I am working on SMD hot plate btw.). Thx
Thank you it helps alot
How can we minimize or control the overshoot temp or the lower limits?
Outstanding explanation. Looking forward to the next video on this subject (PID tuning and different types of PID). By far the best videos I have seen on this subject. Congrats.
Awesome! Great to hear that! Please stay tuned for the next episodes of this subject and share this part with your friends and colleagues. Thank you!
@@Upmation Where is the PID episode?
Respect man🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Awesome 👍
Great tutorial. Can you help me with controlling water temperature with a SSR and capillary thermostat ? What the wiring and the powering of the SSR will be?
Hey, Ivelin! Unfortunately, helping you with this question here is somehow difficult.
great video
very very nice video
Thank you very much ..very nice
You're very welcome, Mustafa!
This is great. Did you post a video on PID Tuning? If you did, I could not find it.
Hi Ali! No not yet.
I want to add PID temperature control to my 240VAC instant hot water heater. What controller and sensor would you recommend?
Is there such a thing as proportional heater control?
A heater controller that factors in flow rate?
Thanks!
You're most welcome! Thank you for your impressive support!
Thanks ❤
You're welcome! Please let us know if you any questions or suggestions.
Brilliant presentations , keep up the good work. Do you have some kind of explanation regarding P , I and D settings of the controller.
Do we ever change these values or it is set by the manufacturer?
Thank you for sharing the knowledge.
I am an electrical engineer working on ships as Second Electro-technical officer and kudos towards the whole team :D
Hey, Steven! Thank you for your comment and support! Great to hear you liked the videos this much! I'm afraid, we do not have such a video but I will transfer your thoughts to the team. Thanks again!
please when will you complete the next stage of this video ......or give us a link to watch
Hey, samuel! We will try to put the next part of this video on the plan. Thank you for following up.
thankyou it is good
You're welcome! Please let us know if you have any suggestions.
what kind of specific water tank is it shown in the video?
Please more videos
Did you ever make the follow up video to explain how to get the temperature to stay more constant with a PID controller?
We will consider your suggestions. Thank you!
Could you do a video on controlling a heating element in water using a PID -- and efficiency of SSR vs SCR?
I have an 8KW Atmor tankless water heater that has two switched heating elements. I want to add stable electronic temperature control. But I can't find good information about the different options!
Seems the PID + SSR MAY have longer switching time, and that MAY reduce heating element life from thermal cycling vs a higher speed SCR. But I am having trouble finding the real answer.
Hey! We will consider your suggestion. Thank you!
@@Upmation to follow up, it seems zero-crossing SSR is the way to go, because of the thermal mass of the heating element plus the switching time of the SSR are more than fast enough to preserve the life of the heating element. The SCR seems to be useful for motor control and dimming. Unless operated at the zero crossing (like most SSRs), SCRs can have a detrimental effect on the power system: lower power factor and harmonics that may cause radio frequency interference (RFI) or even affect the operation of other equipment.
What are the electrical components that make up a PID controller. Is there a circuit diagram?
Hey! We try to make a video on the PID controllers internal circuit diagram and its components.
Autonics temperature controller is best:))
Good day. Please can PID controller be used to carry out voltage regulation on AC loads?. Do you have any video on such applications.
Hi there, Obinna! I did not see them to be connected directly to an AC load! They can be connected to power controllers (Thyristor panels), Triacs, SSRs, etc. But directly to the AC load? I don't think so!
When will the next video uploaded? I really want to understand how to set a good PID control
Hi Totok! The next video will be uploaded on June 20th. And unfortunately it will not be about the PID Controller settings.
I cannot found the next episode for PID control. What type of SSR is used?
Hey, Max! Sorry for the belated response. We did not produce the next episode of this video yet!
Oh! Hope to watch more videos regarding PID controller. By the way, may I know where we on the PID output. What kind of SSR should we use and the control setting? (phase control output with using Zero type SSR?)
@Upmation Hello, i want ask. I have extruder for PVC hose extrusion and it has 8 temperature controllers ASCON K49. These controllers are switching zero crossing SSR. I dont understand one thing. When i turn up machine for heat up, these controllers interuptly switching on and off while heating up. Setpoint is 200 celsium but it behaves like this while actual temperature is for example 100C, just in "heating up mode". Delay between switching is approximately 0.5 sec.
Is it some protection against burn of heating band? Can these bands burn off if would be switched on until it hit setponit?
Thank you for possible answer :)
Can I controll 9 heaters of injection molding machine from one pid controller or one pid and multiple output controller is available for multiple output for heater
Is there is there a glossary ?
Is this for 2 120 v hot wires?
You should add a circuit diagram also.
wich is better..contactor or ssr?
The suitability of a given option depends on its application, rather than being simply better or worse.
My SSR has an output of 24-480VAC. Is it possible to put an 12V heater on the output?
How to identify/differentiate between SSR output/ relay output on PID Temperature controller. If SSR is not mentioned but voltage pulse is mentioned. I am confused is voltage pulse & SSR output same?
It should be written clearly but, voltage pulse sound like the same for SSR. Reading its manual would be helpful.
Hi! I currently have the same model series of PID (TCN4S-24R) and I’m having a hard time setting my own cycle control time. When I go to cycle, it doesn’t allow to select a duty cycle time or anything like that, only for standard can I go up to 120 seconds. Am I missing a subtle setting? Any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you!
please.you make video plc pid control temperature
Hey! Thank you for your comment. I will transfer your suggestion to the team.
Where is the pld settings
When will you upload PID controller video.
It would be in mid-September I believe.
Is it possible to make it work for 220-240?
Yes, it is! Unless you did not exceed the range of the output voltage, you can connect any AC voltage to the output terminals of the SSR.
We are use heater then we are shown the temperature is raising gradually for a short time (what problem occur in this situation) ssr problem ond other problem?
If the temperature is rising gradually then everything is OK! If it is rising quickly within a short period of time it might be related to your temperature indicator/controller or your temperature sensor. Make sure that they are both functioning correctly by measuring the temperature with a Pyrometer at the same time.
What is that AGT?
This is the abbreviation for "agitator."
Show how to use PID
Do all PIDs need an SSR?
No. You don't necessarily need to use an SSR with a PID controller. It depends on your application. Please check the manual of your device.
please next video
Where is the next part?
Please stay tuned for the next parts. Thank you!
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where is ur next video
Please stay tuned for the next parts. Thank you!
Great explaination. Thanks 👍🏻
You're welcome! Glad you liked it!