I’m only a person who has a high school diploma! Yet I’ve found myself multiple times explaining how our system of government works! To college graduates! And these clowns make 6 figures?! That’s messed up!
Unfortunately, there are many here in the U.S. who would label this type of skill teaching as "indoctrination" because they benefit from the ability to manipulate the under-educated.
We need these classes in America, now. We need to start educating children early. By the time they are adults, it's too late for many who have fallen for fake news.
At the moment, the current government has plenty of openly racist people in power. Many are fearmongering with immigrant issues and the "senselessness of green ideology". There are massive cuts being made to things like education, healthcare and wellfare. We have a record high unemployment rates and the amount of bankruptcies is the highest since the 90's depression. There was a tax cut that benefits rich people. Though the VAT was raised so the cuts and rising prices have done a massive number on peoples purchasing power. It shows as more small businesses and for example restaurants are going bankrupt. Over time pay is said to be cut, which could lead to workers in certain areas to lose up to 1000 euros per month. Then there are things like the government officials and ministers not taking the warnings from scientists, professionals, experts or researchers seriously. They even shut down one of the main (if not the only) governmental research facility that did research in order to help making decisions based on facts. The agencies looking for the interest of the employers side are vouching for new labor laws, which would enable local agreements and make it easier for the employers to pay less. AFAIK, there is no minimum wage written in the law, but instead the unions have their agreed minimum wages included in their employment condition agreements (which are forced to the employer acting in any given area), which are negotiated every now and then. So the new law would allow the employer to skip the agreed minimums and make their own version for anyone who is willing to accept it. New limits have been set to strikes, where a strike with a "political" agenda or other strikes supporting it are not allowed and if the strike is deemed illegal, the fines have been raised from not having a minimum to a min. 10 000€ and from the maximum of 31 900€ all the way to 150 000€! The fine is paid by the union behind a strike. Some unions in Finland are tiny, so that kind of money would potentially risk the very foundation of a small union. A single worker can be fined for 200€. When I look for any kind of news on political decisions, laws or interaction from the people in power, pretty much everything seems grim and not connecting with the reality. It's also really odd how much we support Ukraine, but at the same time the populists are doing the same informational acrobatics as the Russian officials. The same officials and ministers are known for blocking anyone on Twitter who dare to make any dissenting or critical comments to them.
@@HulluJanne I agree with you but I’m sure this won’t harm Finnish democracy in long term because of lifelong democratic traditions and strong pluralistic institutions Freedom House still gives Finland 100/100 in terms of democracy
@@radosawmarkowski5379 As someone who lives here, the democracy and civility is basically a dying breed. Corruption is also going rampant, even though its not seen in any online calculators or stuff like that since its "hidden corruption" sadly.
@@kanggoo57 I understand what you’re saying but those measures exist so you compare different countries, so it doesn’t mean that there are no problems in Finland at all but the other countries perform worse on most issues, especially when it comes to politics it’s not that easy to measure comparing to economics
American educational models and research infantilizes our kids from the very start. One look at European education and you'll see how advanced they are in what they believe kids are capable of. KINDERGARTNERS are beginning to learn critical thinking in Finland!! Our kindergartners are barely learning the alphabet and reading.
@@dannil9878 you are right. But most kids go. Preschool and school are mandatory in Finland. But nevertheless, many Finnish kids learn to read before preschool.
@@瓦森 Reading isn’t even part of the curriculum in preschool. I really have to disagree with that many children can read at the age of 5, it is an exception. The majority of children learn to read in the first grade of school.
My State Dept of Education wants to spend $6 million dollars on bibles, one for every classroom while our test scores are abysmal. We're in real trouble here in middle America.
This also helps with navigating contracts, product advertising, lease agreements, loopholes in laws being voted on, Etc., not just for having voters be an informed electorate.
Why is America so backwards in everything? The US Government has the greatest PR team. Spreading the information that we are the best! We are not - there are so many counties that actually care about their citizens. They care about the food they eat and the water they drink. It seems like everything is this country is about “me and my dollar” it so disheartening. 😢
I am amazed by Finland’s excellent education about critical thinking and think our education system could learn much from studying their system and culture! ❤
This is such a critical skill. This needs to be part of the curriculum in the United States. Perhaps Magadonians would be able to tell the truth from a lie.
Finland has 10 year old kid that are fluent in at least 3 languages and know how to detect misinformation. In America we still have adults that believe everything trump says. I think we can say America is no longer king of the hill - we had a nice run.
yea, imagine if a bunch of young teenager would laugh the "intelligent design teacher" out of the classroom, or ask inconvenient questions at bible camp
It's a beautiful thing to behold, I've witnessed it happening and also was one of those asking inconvenient questions back in the 80's when we still had mandatory religion classes in Finnish schools. Religious indoctrination of children should be considered as a child abuse!
@@iron_dude_j0427 You don't think a lot daily, do you? USA is the richest country in the world. WHAT IS STOPPING YOU? Your GDP per capita is higher. You literally have more resources per citizen than Finland. So, explain to me how it works again, why richer country can't do what smaller countries can? The ONLY reason USA can't do it is political will and the political situation where one side absolutely would see this as the end of their grift if citizens were informed. And we both know what side relies on people who don't do or even know hot to do any research. They don't want to learn that their dear leader is a liar... The side that talks about schools injecting kids with socialism, the side that hates academia with a passion.... That is the actual reason why you can't do it. And i can bet that you are not voting blue, are you?
Good work Finland! Denmark (where I've now lived more than half my life) is 2nd after Finland at the top of the "best-of" list, but I was born and educated in the USA; it pains me to see how many USA citizens today don't have a good foundation of critical thinking upon which to build their decisions and life-skills. My family didn't leave my education 100% up to the school system. I think there's currently a lack of cross-generational engagement in learning within our community and families. Rational wisdom is being lost to a focus on social media driving us toward superficial entertainment and a lack of good judgement about finances, politics, our future on the only planet we have... the list is long.
In the 8th grade in 1952 my brilliant teacher had us do a unit on Propaganda. We read newspapers & magazines looking for propaganda. That was important. We read about advertising as well as political propaganda. I never forgot that lesson. Yes we should have units like Finland's again in our Public schools. My school was a San Francisco public Junior High.
Funnily enough, much of the Finnish education system was based on the old US public school model. But instead of dividing education into public and private sectors, we just outright banned private schools and kept expanding on the public sector. Takes decades and a lot of political will to build it, but it's not impossible.
In the USA, we must implement this into school systems. As for the 50% of uneducated adults; I am at a loss of how to reach them. Maybe their own children can educate them.
I liked what that lady said at the end, "You have the right to your own opinions, but not to your own facts." Once the American public heard Kelly Ann Conway talk about "alternative facts," we slid down a rabbit hole that we have yet to climb out of.
Her name is Li Andersson, and she's awesome! Nowadays the government has already changed, so she isn't the Minister of Education anymore - but she just recently started working in the European Parliament!
@@Kiintoisa Vasemmistoliitto far left madness. They are one of the few against NATO here, pro Russia, into identity politics and supporting political violence because at the moment it happens to favor them. There are many other things I could say, but I also agree with her on number of issues. I know many who are on far left politically here and they tend to bee too idealistic to the point of willingness to sacrifice themselves and others for their ideals. Like I rather like having different sorts of precautions like that bomb shelter that's behind my kitchen wall (Yes, I live on bottom floor) because as nice as it would be to ideally live in a world without violence, we do have Russia right next to us. Before someone goes on about me being right winger, I very much so am not, just frustrated of the non pragmatic madness. Like the problems with Energy infrastructure that we have now were foreseen 15 years ago and could have been avoided. Russia being unreliable, fluctuations of wind power and limitations of energy transfer networks. That's just such a topic that every party that has been in power in last 20 years should be criticized about. Though problems could have easily been a lot worse too. With the current and previous governments I do not see proper solutions being even talked about for this which is so not good that I do not have the words to properly express my dissatisfaction.
I understand joking, but honestly, it would actually make the world a better place. A lot better. Finland as a whole is one of the absolute prime examples on how to do a lot of things right. Not just for the citizens of Finland, but internationally as well. Finland is simply put just a really good country that truly cares, on every aspect from human rights to nature to education to health, you name it.
In addition to the valuable and highly sensible lessons children get at school, they also get free healthy meals, free medical and dental care throughout their entire childhood. I'm a Canadian, but am so glad I raised my boys in Finland.
They don't have a choice. Because they're neighbors with Russia. The general public in Finland is a lot more self-aware because of it. While Americans are always going to resist proactive stuff like this.
@@asjaosaline5987I don't know about the cultural part, or maybe I don't understand perfectly what you're saying. Probably 99,9% of Finnish citizens feel they have basically absolutely nothing in common with Russia, which is basically true.
@@asjaosaline5987 Never? We had a war only 80 years ago, which devastated Finland. Russia orchestrated large amounts of refugees to swarm into Finland in 2015, in order to overwhelm and destabilize our existing systems and divide public discourse. Russian led mis- and disinformation campaigns are and have been constant since we joined the EU in -95. Kreml has since kept implying militaristic repercussions if Finland acts against Russia's interests (like when Finland joined other EU nations in sanctioning Russia for invading Crimea). So far they have been empty threats, but threats nonetheless made. So what do you mean never a real issue with Russia?
@@perunarieska9182 I mean lately, couse Finland has been capable to put it behind and not live in fear, but same times being friendly but ready. There is different from many country. Some countries are in constant conflict with russia mainly in political conflict. Ukraine conflict also happened course they couldn't suppress the bitterness of past. Even Georgian conflict happened course political provoking. Finland has never provoked Russia, but same time being ready incase Russia might have bad ideas without flaying a threatening flag. Similar situation is also with some other europe countries like France. france has always being neutral with Russia, but if it oversteps some limits then reacting. Bad Example is Estonia who has always nose in russia business what ever it does, it somehow becomes Estonia problem.
@@bxnjxmxn2942 and you repeat after me, “there are some observable facts that are robust and replicable no matter who makes them where opinions shouldn’t be different unless they are purposefully being ignorant or misinformed”.
As someone who worked on textbooks for both elementary and secondary schools in the US, I know how much better Finnish schools are than ours. The question is: are we capable of learning from them?
Umm, the guy saying "Finnish cities will be surrounded by a ring of burning ghettoes" is not a Russian propagandist. He's the current speaker of parliament, Jussi Halla-aho, who is about as anti-Putin as they come.
Yeah but these people are fools who understand nothing about finnish nationalism or russia. They think talking about migrants in any negative way = pro russia which makes zero sense.
In the USA, some people want to abolish the Dept. of Education. They also want to teach the bible, critical race theory, and "alternate facts". The USA is LOST! These children are the future of the world and that makes me happy.
Dept. of Education. cant be trusted it had wrecked havoc on people education for decades. Technically there would be need some for of Educational organisator, but you cant give power to such organisations they claim they know what is truth and feed it on childern. Claiming that there is 50+ genders or allowing perverst to give lessons to childern is violation of that power. Second thing is State/government cant consider people as tools and claim to have right to orginize/groom those people for societal or economic purposes. Every person is individual and has right to choose they education path and also place where they materialize they education. If a person wants to learn chinese or Russian then government dont have right to say that we dont do business with those countries so you are not allowed to learn those languages. Givernmental educational oversight can only established on need to groom clerks for country and demand certification for that. Rest of population can learn what ever they wish.
@@LoggerMane Because CRT is not taught in school. It's part of a legal education. You'd learn it in university on your way to qualifying as a lawyer. And I'm not a lawyer, so I can't tell you much about it. But I definitely know that the people screaming about getting it out of schools are lying. It's not in schools in the first place.
I think too many school all over the world prioritize making kids memorize things. Teaching kids to think is also very important. For example in China kids have huge workloads and most of it requires just obediently memorizing things. In international job market Chinese workers have a reputation of being very hard working, knowing a lot and doing everything asked of them, but lacking in the ability to think independently and be creative.
In US schools nowadays, they expect kids to work at their own levels and that the kids are up and moving around the room to stations. They discourage group anything for the most part. As a recently retired teacher, I know that your academic coaches have a check list that is kept on each teacher. If they come into the room and see more traditional teaching, like lecturing, teachers are going to get dinged on their frequent observations, which is very stressful and can hold back professional growth on your job. Here, the kids are shown in various classroom settings, but the kids are all working together, sitting in their seats, raising their hands. In fact, they are all engaged and plainly enjoying learning. There are less interruptions and distractions in more traditional settings and more information can be shared because of it. And I'm curious as to how they handle disruptive students, as we see such well-behaved kids in this video. Wonderful work is definitely going on in schools in Finland!
As a kid growing up in the 80's and 90's I remember having to do research projects in school. Usually one of the assignment's requirements was to have so many sources and a mix of types of sources (1st person, books, newspapers, magazines, internet articles). Today many people stop with just one website article.
Yes, it's literally a fence build around the official border site to make it harder for somebody to jump out of the car, run over the border hidden in the forest and jump into the car on the other side of the border. The border has camera surveillance and the fence is there just to slow down the potential illegal immigrants long enough to get border patrol on site and catch them. Finns are not stupid enough to build a wall and assume it would do anything standalone.
If we could prioritize this in the US. We should be embarrassed we let mis and dis information run rampant, particularly through an individual who wants to be president.
I actually went to schools that taught us how to research and know what is reputable, the spelling of the websites, etc. Got updated when I worked at a bank. SMH Good idea! We need this for our schools.
@@sirdiealot53 Why? It's a saying in Finland that she referred to in natural conversation. When you speak normally to you cite everything you say that is attributed to others? That would not be normal human speech.
As a Finn I can confirm we have that as well - starting out in the kindergarten. As a father who is not that good in teaching kids on how to handle their (often very strong and unfiltered) feelings I am very grateful we get that in the early education.
The filter on the CBS Sunday Morning camera when filming Jane Pauley, or the work done in post production is ridiculous and distracting. Aging is a blessing!
Li Andersson got almost 250 000 personal votes in the election for the EU Parliament; that is more than some entire parties. The reason was not that a leftist would be that popular, but a lot of conservatives were thinking how to find a suitable post for her as she could no longer be minister - we need smart people to serve the country no matter what their political agenda might be, as everyone needs to compromise anyways.
@@sampohonkala4195 I don’t wanna speculate if conservatives voted for her or not but she absolutely got a lot of support from people who weren’t leftists or even left wing because of her personality and her way to handle politics. I like her. I hope she and other leftists wouldn’t have to compromise though, we need good left wing politics for the working class. It would take the air out of the far right.
@@TheAxeaman She is well informed and on top of things, quite bright and obviously a good human being which is not the most common quality among politicians. By compromises I mean that in domestic politics no party can get a majority to fully run any ideology. In the EU Parliament it is even more clear that a smart Finn with any agenda is a better choice than a stupid one with any agenda. I agree we need good left wing politicians to keep a balance.
@@sampohonkala4195 No, I don't want balance, I want politics that is good for the working class and not for the capitalist class. Otherwise I agree with you. :)
@@TheAxeaman As I have seen the 1970's I believe there is socialist dictatorship at one end and capitalist dictatorship at the other; balance is somewhere reasonably far from both. I have a one man firm but also work for a company so I jind If understand both sides.
It's not only Finland... it's the entire region that one shall praise. Looking at neighbouring countries, all of them (Estonia, Norway, Denmark) rank very high. It seems to be common in these countries. And as an Estonian I can surely confirm that I was taught the same😊. Give us credit too😂
We did have a migrant problem back in 2015-2016(could be wrong years but a while ago, long before NATO membership) when Russia sent some over and pretty huge % of them came to cause problems. Like they had to silence the local news outlets about the things happening because the far right started to patrol in the streets. So yes a lot of negative things happened and people started to get angry. I do not support the far right but I don't like it when they silence the media either, but probably it was the only thing to do to calm the situation down. 7 years ago a comedy show made a short video about Putin, Trump, Merkel and Niinistö.. already in that the one that played Trump said "...Ukraine that ain't even part of Russia, YET...". My point a comedy show over here saw that one coming so my point is that stop saying that it was a surprise. Like why do you think we have 5% of the population as wartime army and up to 15% in reserve, because we suddenly woke up to who the Muscovians are? Its not a wall, its a fence to guide people trying to cross the border to the border checkpoints. It is there to make the job of the border guards easier by guiding people trying to cross to certain points also to protect people from entering the wilderness, like we do have dangerous animals in the woods and the terrain is "deadly rough". Like even local people can get lost in the swamps and fall through the floating ground never to be seen again.
My son was raised in critical thinking and curiosity, got him in trouble in kindergarten in TX. teacher read 3 little pigs and he correctly stated that strawbale homes do so hold up to wind, no he wasn't worried about learning cursive as he was going to us keyboard and was practicing touch typing. That was in 1994,doubt teacher has learned anything since. I brought him home to educate.
Those will bever be offered here, both parties like to look the other way if it means they can get a few extra votes. They never call out the other party because they both do it...
Everyone should be concerned when government schools train you on what you should or should not believe. This sounds like a big opening for state propaganda programming.
To be fair, we do have this in at least some American schools. The public schools I went to, definitely promoted this. 19 states have media literacy as part of the law in public education. This is one of the disadvantages I suppose of having education controlled by the states 🤷🏻♂️
Li Anderson. I’ve seen her couple of times in public. Just casually leading a Left party in coffee shop. Today she’s in European parliament. Jussi Halla-Aho. The guy who was talking about burning ghettos is currently the speaker of our parliament. So it’s a good time to start recognizing so fake news. Just kidding, some real issues there actually. But not ghettos.
like halla aho or not ( I personally dont), but he has been the most outspoken against russia for the longest, back when kokoomus, vihreät and sdp for example were talking about how russia can be trusted and we should increase trade he was one of the only ones actually opposing it. so using him in this video is the defintion of fake news ironically.
The media does report facts. They reported the Jan 6 insurrection, for example. But too many people don't believe it because their cult leader tells them what to think.
I confirm as a Finn that I cringe when I watch news anchors from the likes of CNN explain how to feel about the news. Even if I agree with the sentiment. In Finland, that just wouldn't fly. That part would be left to interviews with subject matter experts.
Adults, young and old in the US who are doing critical thinking are the ones not falling for the messaging and gaslighting of corporate run media! As long as corporations control what gets covered and the messaging that news organizations must align with, saying this is needed in our country is comical! Our education system sucks because our system is set up to create a cheap labor force!!!
Well dispite good teaching, some Finns ssems to loose this capability becoming audult. Right wing populists was the third biggest party in the last election, and is currently sitting in the government.
@@PetriWWhere did you get that "allowing"? Illegal is not allowed. If you mean refugees I wonder who attacked Irak. Or Libya. And now it seems there will be 2000000 new refugees coming from Lebanon. Must be that "left wing" causing these problems. I'm pretty much right wing guy, wealthy and living my best life. Those nowadays "right wingers" are something else. First they cause collapsed societys like in Iraq and Libya. Then they whine that they can't shoot those refugees on the border. And when those so called "right wingers" get the power like in Hungary there will be huge corruption and oligarchy. And that is the end of capitalism and beginning of degenerating oligarchy. No real right winger can be fascist because it is basically an end of the free markets and capitalism but many fascists call them selves "right wingers".
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As a journalist, author, professor, and grandfather, I wish we would teach this in the United States. Good work CBS
We could, if we completely changed the way we look at what kids are capable of.
Some people get elected through the support of people who pay for false advertising. Would they fight or support teaching this skill?
@@marydawkins4190Do the big money people want the kids and future adults to be “capable”? Or better to be gullible?
I’m only a person who has a high school diploma! Yet I’ve found myself multiple times explaining how our system of government works! To college graduates! And these clowns make 6 figures?! That’s messed up!
Unfortunately, there are many here in the U.S. who would label this type of skill teaching as "indoctrination" because they benefit from the ability to manipulate the under-educated.
BEST LINE: “ you have the right to your own opinion, but you don’t have the right to your own facts.” So well put !
"you have the right to your own opinion, but you don't have the right to your own facts."
unless if it's your Brithday then that's fact
Try telling that to MAGA cultists!😆
And what if the "facts" claimed by a person or institution turn out to be opinions and wrong ones at that?
@@rclaughlin sadly these days news are just some "expert" telling us their opinion about the thing, rather than let people form their own opinions.
@@UncleWarpy rent free it seems.
We need this
We need these classes in America, now. We need to start educating children early. By the time they are adults, it's too late for many who have fallen for fake news.
We would need to try and educate many of the parents first.
Bad idea. You're only creating an incentive for liberals to infiltrate the education system as they already do.
@@AZsunflower As the other one said, it's often too late when they're adults. It has to start again from the ground up
@cassu6 Of course, but if the adults aren't educated they don't want their children educated. I really like the idea of classes for all ages!
sadly the republican party would call this as "indoctrinating" and shut it down immediately
Finland is on another level of goodness
❤🇫🇮
At the moment, the current government has plenty of openly racist people in power. Many are fearmongering with immigrant issues and the "senselessness of green ideology". There are massive cuts being made to things like education, healthcare and wellfare. We have a record high unemployment rates and the amount of bankruptcies is the highest since the 90's depression. There was a tax cut that benefits rich people. Though the VAT was raised so the cuts and rising prices have done a massive number on peoples purchasing power. It shows as more small businesses and for example restaurants are going bankrupt. Over time pay is said to be cut, which could lead to workers in certain areas to lose up to 1000 euros per month.
Then there are things like the government officials and ministers not taking the warnings from scientists, professionals, experts or researchers seriously. They even shut down one of the main (if not the only) governmental research facility that did research in order to help making decisions based on facts.
The agencies looking for the interest of the employers side are vouching for new labor laws, which would enable local agreements and make it easier for the employers to pay less. AFAIK, there is no minimum wage written in the law, but instead the unions have their agreed minimum wages included in their employment condition agreements (which are forced to the employer acting in any given area), which are negotiated every now and then. So the new law would allow the employer to skip the agreed minimums and make their own version for anyone who is willing to accept it.
New limits have been set to strikes, where a strike with a "political" agenda or other strikes supporting it are not allowed and if the strike is deemed illegal, the fines have been raised from not having a minimum to a min. 10 000€ and from the maximum of 31 900€ all the way to 150 000€! The fine is paid by the union behind a strike. Some unions in Finland are tiny, so that kind of money would potentially risk the very foundation of a small union. A single worker can be fined for 200€.
When I look for any kind of news on political decisions, laws or interaction from the people in power, pretty much everything seems grim and not connecting with the reality.
It's also really odd how much we support Ukraine, but at the same time the populists are doing the same informational acrobatics as the Russian officials. The same officials and ministers are known for blocking anyone on Twitter who dare to make any dissenting or critical comments to them.
@@HulluJanne I agree with you but I’m sure this won’t harm Finnish democracy in long term because of lifelong democratic traditions and strong pluralistic institutions
Freedom House still gives Finland 100/100 in terms of democracy
@@radosawmarkowski5379 As someone who lives here, the democracy and civility is basically a dying breed. Corruption is also going rampant, even though its not seen in any online calculators or stuff like that since its "hidden corruption" sadly.
@@kanggoo57 I understand what you’re saying but those measures exist so you compare different countries, so it doesn’t mean that there are no problems in Finland at all but the other countries perform worse on most issues, especially when it comes to politics it’s not that easy to measure comparing to economics
And one reason is because their country is not controlled by megachurches.
As a Finn, I can approve. Just last week we did lessons about misinformation and its faults and dangers, and how to differentiate real vs fake news.
Have you noticed misinformation being put out to the public regarding this election?
American educational models and research infantilizes our kids from the very start. One look at European education and you'll see how advanced they are in what they believe kids are capable of. KINDERGARTNERS are beginning to learn critical thinking in Finland!! Our kindergartners are barely learning the alphabet and reading.
Yeah but Finnish kids do not learn the alphabet or reading in kindergarten. They just play and learn stuff while playing
@@marsmars124Finnish kids do learn the alphabet in kindergarten when they are about 5 years old.
@@瓦森not all kids go to kindergarten, not mandatory schooling.
@@dannil9878 you are right. But most kids go. Preschool and school are mandatory in Finland. But nevertheless, many Finnish kids learn to read before preschool.
@@瓦森 Reading isn’t even part of the curriculum in preschool. I really have to disagree with that many children can read at the age of 5, it is an exception. The majority of children learn to read in the first grade of school.
My State Dept of Education wants to spend $6 million dollars on bibles, one for every classroom while our test scores are abysmal. We're in real trouble here in middle America.
Where?
@@iron_dude_j0427 Oklahoma.
'MURICA!!!!!!!!
What does your comment have to do with this video? 🤔
I think they could have bought lower cost bibles. Oklahoma needs to legalize pot and release some homeless people who don't need much help.
This also helps with navigating contracts, product advertising, lease agreements, loopholes in laws being voted on, Etc., not just for having voters be an informed electorate.
it might even influence your capability to believe in a sky fairy...
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Why is America so backwards in everything? The US Government has the greatest PR team. Spreading the information that we are the best! We are not - there are so many counties that actually care about their citizens. They care about the food they eat and the water they drink. It seems like everything is this country is about “me and my dollar” it so disheartening. 😢
I am amazed by Finland’s excellent education about critical thinking and think our education system could learn much from studying their system and culture! ❤
This is such a critical skill. This needs to be part of the curriculum in the United States. Perhaps Magadonians would be able to tell the truth from a lie.
Finland has 10 year old kid that are fluent in at least 3 languages and know how to detect misinformation. In America we still have adults that believe everything trump says. I think we can say America is no longer king of the hill - we had a nice run.
They may not care to know what they don’t know.
@@garnerjazz58 Exactly
No no! You Americans need more Bibles and prayers in schools!
@@KubilayErtunaan u.s flags....
Ss, so impressed with this! What a fabulous idea. Teaches children critical thinking skills, the use and abuse of the internet. We need this in the US
yea, imagine if a bunch of young teenager would laugh the "intelligent design teacher" out of the classroom, or ask inconvenient questions at bible camp
It's a beautiful thing to behold, I've witnessed it happening and also was one of those asking inconvenient questions back in the 80's when we still had mandatory religion classes in Finnish schools.
Religious indoctrination of children should be considered as a child abuse!
Can we import the Finnish system here. There children spend a great deal of time outside in healthy activities
They’re also a fraction of the size in population
@@iron_dude_j0427 What difference does that make? You have a nation divided into states, counties etc. Population size doesn't matter.
@@iron_dude_j0427 You don't think a lot daily, do you?
USA is the richest country in the world. WHAT IS STOPPING YOU? Your GDP per capita is higher. You literally have more resources per citizen than Finland. So, explain to me how it works again, why richer country can't do what smaller countries can?
The ONLY reason USA can't do it is political will and the political situation where one side absolutely would see this as the end of their grift if citizens were informed. And we both know what side relies on people who don't do or even know hot to do any research. They don't want to learn that their dear leader is a liar... The side that talks about schools injecting kids with socialism, the side that hates academia with a passion.... That is the actual reason why you can't do it.
And i can bet that you are not voting blue, are you?
Our system is your CIA/Mossad propaganda. They have funded sick school programs in Finland at least since the 70s.
Doesn't work anymore. We just had a report that the children of the immigrants are doing much worse. Nobody wants to point out the obvious...
Good work Finland! Denmark (where I've now lived more than half my life) is 2nd after Finland at the top of the "best-of" list, but I was born and educated in the USA; it pains me to see how many USA citizens today don't have a good foundation of critical thinking upon which to build their decisions and life-skills. My family didn't leave my education 100% up to the school system. I think there's currently a lack of cross-generational engagement in learning within our community and families. Rational wisdom is being lost to a focus on social media driving us toward superficial entertainment and a lack of good judgement about finances, politics, our future on the only planet we have... the list is long.
You have the right to your own opinion, but you do not have to right to your own facts. Gold! Best statement of the year.
As an American teaching in Helsinki, Finland, people ask if I would ever teach in the States, oh my gosh NO WAY!
I wish we taught this in America. It would have helped with some of the current insanity we see in politics today.
We can't even serve a decent lunch at our schools so our kids can learn much less teach them something useful.
We had this in Finland early 2000s already when i was in school
Even in 1980's we studied source criticism in school. Long before internet.
Japan needs this.
Every generation needs this education.
Proud to be Finnish. : )
In the 8th grade in 1952 my brilliant teacher had us do a unit on Propaganda. We read newspapers & magazines looking for propaganda. That was important. We read about advertising as well as political propaganda. I never forgot that lesson. Yes we should have units like Finland's again in our Public schools. My school was a San Francisco public Junior High.
Funnily enough, much of the Finnish education system was based on the old US public school model. But instead of dividing education into public and private sectors, we just outright banned private schools and kept expanding on the public sector. Takes decades and a lot of political will to build it, but it's not impossible.
In the USA, we must implement this into school systems.
As for the 50% of uneducated adults; I am at a loss of how to reach them.
Maybe their own children can educate them.
I liked what that lady said at the end, "You have the right to your own opinions, but not to your own facts." Once the American public heard Kelly Ann Conway talk about "alternative facts," we slid down a rabbit hole that we have yet to climb out of.
Her name is Li Andersson, and she's awesome! Nowadays the government has already changed, so she isn't the Minister of Education anymore - but she just recently started working in the European Parliament!
@@Kiintoisa thank you for the info!
She is a Marxist, and there is pro-Russian and communist politcians in her party. I wonder why CBS did not mention that...
@@PetriW Wasn't Turtiainen and Hirvisaari in Perussuomalaiset?
@@Kiintoisa Vasemmistoliitto far left madness. They are one of the few against NATO here, pro Russia, into identity politics and supporting political violence because at the moment it happens to favor them.
There are many other things I could say, but I also agree with her on number of issues. I know many who are on far left politically here and they tend to bee too idealistic to the point of willingness to sacrifice themselves and others for their ideals. Like I rather like having different sorts of precautions like that bomb shelter that's behind my kitchen wall (Yes, I live on bottom floor) because as nice as it would be to ideally live in a world without violence, we do have Russia right next to us.
Before someone goes on about me being right winger, I very much so am not, just frustrated of the non pragmatic madness. Like the problems with Energy infrastructure that we have now were foreseen 15 years ago and could have been avoided. Russia being unreliable, fluctuations of wind power and limitations of energy transfer networks. That's just such a topic that every party that has been in power in last 20 years should be criticized about. Though problems could have easily been a lot worse too. With the current and previous governments I do not see proper solutions being even talked about for this which is so not good that I do not have the words to properly express my dissatisfaction.
We need these kids. Thank you for teaching what you do.
Awesome Finland. Way to go with good education
Someday the Finns will rule the world.
I understand joking, but honestly, it would actually make the world a better place. A lot better. Finland as a whole is one of the absolute prime examples on how to do a lot of things right. Not just for the citizens of Finland, but internationally as well. Finland is simply put just a really good country that truly cares, on every aspect from human rights to nature to education to health, you name it.
Suomi antaa apua myös kodittomille tänään, sanoen: Ensin katto pään päälle, sitten hoidetaan muut asiat@@JimmyRingz
I concur.
we do not want that imo
@@JimmyRingz Things are unfortunately going downhill with the rising support of the political right.
so good!!!!!
Taking ideas and making it our own is what America does. Lets start this today across the country and hold news stations accountable.
In addition to the valuable and highly sensible lessons children get at school, they also get free healthy meals, free medical and dental care throughout their entire childhood. I'm a Canadian, but am so glad I raised my boys in Finland.
They don't have a choice. Because they're neighbors with Russia.
The general public in Finland is a lot more self-aware because of it.
While Americans are always going to resist proactive stuff like this.
Not realy Finland has never had real issue with russia. There were even close cultural and trade partners for decades. Just things change politically.
@@asjaosaline5987I don't know about the cultural part, or maybe I don't understand perfectly what you're saying. Probably 99,9% of Finnish citizens feel they have basically absolutely nothing in common with Russia, which is basically true.
@@asjaosaline5987 Never? We had a war only 80 years ago, which devastated Finland. Russia orchestrated large amounts of refugees to swarm into Finland in 2015, in order to overwhelm and destabilize our existing systems and divide public discourse. Russian led mis- and disinformation campaigns are and have been constant since we joined the EU in -95. Kreml has since kept implying militaristic repercussions if Finland acts against Russia's interests (like when Finland joined other EU nations in sanctioning Russia for invading Crimea). So far they have been empty threats, but threats nonetheless made. So what do you mean never a real issue with Russia?
@@perunarieska9182 I mean lately, couse Finland has been capable to put it behind and not live in fear, but same times being friendly but ready. There is different from many country. Some countries are in constant conflict with russia mainly in political conflict. Ukraine conflict also happened course they couldn't suppress the bitterness of past. Even Georgian conflict happened course political provoking. Finland has never provoked Russia, but same time being ready incase Russia might have bad ideas without flaying a threatening flag. Similar situation is also with some other europe countries like France. france has always being neutral with Russia, but if it oversteps some limits then reacting. Bad Example is Estonia who has always nose in russia business what ever it does, it somehow becomes Estonia problem.
@@asjaosaline5987 Yeah even as we were close trade partners and such, we still had to be wary of Russia and Russian propaganda.
Wish the world would learn it !
The United States needs to have classes like these at all grade levels!
I love Finland. Too bad I live just some 300 km aside in the lands of Mordor.
Things can change, even in the lands of Mordor one day
@@mikrokupu 😔
@@sergeyt2947 Good to hear voices like yours, thanks. I wish u all the best, from FIN.
Absolutely briliant! I think we adults could learn quite a bit from these kids!
Just like a library separates fiction and nonfiction, the internet needs a librarian that points out false info.
Nice idea.
The last thing the internet needs is a baby sitter. Just learn of to discern lol
@@iron_dude_j0427 it does when a significant population don’t discern and it leads to other problems
@@joshuamatkin8306 Repeat after me, child. "Me disagreeing with something does not make it false."
@@bxnjxmxn2942 and you repeat after me, “there are some observable facts that are robust and replicable no matter who makes them where opinions shouldn’t be different unless they are purposefully being ignorant or misinformed”.
This is part of Total Defence concept we have in our country,
As someone who worked on textbooks for both elementary and secondary schools in the US, I know how much better Finnish schools are than ours. The question is: are we capable of learning from them?
Wow, crazy--a country that values its children.
The US needs this training and severe penalties for claiming to be news with disinformation ~ this is a serious danger
The world needs more AI...Actual Intelligence which will help people sift trough Internet garbage
Here here 👍👍👍👍👍
I do wish this "AI" trend would finaly fizzle out already
Puts American schools to shame. 🤔
Umm, the guy saying "Finnish cities will be surrounded by a ring of burning ghettoes" is not a Russian propagandist. He's the current speaker of parliament, Jussi Halla-aho, who is about as anti-Putin as they come.
Don't be fooled. He is anti-Putin because it suits him. In reality he is the Finnish equivalent of Putin. Or he would be, given the opportunity.
Yeah but these people are fools who understand nothing about finnish nationalism or russia. They think talking about migrants in any negative way = pro russia which makes zero sense.
He's also spewed a whole lot of anti-immigrant stuff for as long as he's been in politics (and well before that).
Thank you for this important information!
Very important! Thank you!
In college I took a "Truth in Advertising" class. This was way before the term "fake news", but it seems similar to what these kids are leaning.
You took that course in college. These kids are in the 4th grade. See the diffrrence?
In the USA, some people want to abolish the Dept. of Education. They also want to teach the bible, critical race theory, and "alternate facts". The USA is LOST! These children are the future of the world and that makes me happy.
Dept. of Education. cant be trusted it had wrecked havoc on people education for decades. Technically there would be need some for of Educational organisator, but you cant give power to such organisations they claim they know what is truth and feed it on childern. Claiming that there is 50+ genders or allowing perverst to give lessons to childern is violation of that power. Second thing is State/government cant consider people as tools and claim to have right to orginize/groom those people for societal or economic purposes. Every person is individual and has right to choose they education path and also place where they materialize they education. If a person wants to learn chinese or Russian then government dont have right to say that we dont do business with those countries so you are not allowed to learn those languages. Givernmental educational oversight can only established on need to groom clerks for country and demand certification for that. Rest of population can learn what ever they wish.
Most people opposed to CRT have no idea what it is.
@@qwertyTRiG What is your point? Most people are pro-choice but SCOTUS overturned Roe!
@@qwertyTRiGYou failed to say what it is.
@@LoggerMane Because CRT is not taught in school. It's part of a legal education. You'd learn it in university on your way to qualifying as a lawyer. And I'm not a lawyer, so I can't tell you much about it. But I definitely know that the people screaming about getting it out of schools are lying. It's not in schools in the first place.
An amazing addition to curriculum!!
Wonderful coverage of this essential issue of our times. Thank you so much ❤
I think too many school all over the world prioritize making kids memorize things. Teaching kids to think is also very important. For example in China kids have huge workloads and most of it requires just obediently memorizing things. In international job market Chinese workers have a reputation of being very hard working, knowing a lot and doing everything asked of them, but lacking in the ability to think independently and be creative.
What an interesting way to teach and ensure social media literacy
Awesome curriculum!
In US schools nowadays, they expect kids to work at their own levels and that the kids are up and moving around the room to stations. They discourage group anything for the most part. As a recently retired teacher, I know that your academic coaches have a check list that is kept on each teacher. If they come into the room and see more traditional teaching, like lecturing, teachers are going to get dinged on their frequent observations, which is very stressful and can hold back professional growth on your job. Here, the kids are shown in various classroom settings, but the kids are all working together, sitting in their seats, raising their hands. In fact, they are all engaged and plainly enjoying learning. There are less interruptions and distractions in more traditional settings and more information can be shared because of it. And I'm curious as to how they handle disruptive students, as we see such well-behaved kids in this video. Wonderful work is definitely going on in schools in Finland!
If the Child have Adhd/ or other..They go Own Class..And join Main Class on Breaks. They still sam Class.
In Europe,, If you can Climb a Tree..Thre you go..
@@mikaseppanen1632 Much respect.
We are definitely raising a generation of kids who will be at a higher intelligence level than we are now and it's GREAT.
As a kid growing up in the 80's and 90's I remember having to do research projects in school. Usually one of the assignment's requirements was to have so many sources and a mix of types of sources (1st person, books, newspapers, magazines, internet articles). Today many people stop with just one website article.
More "woke" education...says America. One party needs a misinformed public to survive...they don't want this.
We need it though.
Americans should be required to take this class
Americans needs that desperately.
American news could never
This is an American news network reporting this💀
The pending/upcoming administration would never want discrimination taught, on any level.
This is so cool!
Thanks for sharing.
It's not a wall, it's a fence, and it's only in the spots that are easy to cross.
Yes, it's literally a fence build around the official border site to make it harder for somebody to jump out of the car, run over the border hidden in the forest and jump into the car on the other side of the border.
The border has camera surveillance and the fence is there just to slow down the potential illegal immigrants long enough to get border patrol on site and catch them.
Finns are not stupid enough to build a wall and assume it would do anything standalone.
What a great idea
So many youtubers need to take that course, smh
If we could prioritize this in the US. We should be embarrassed we let mis and dis information run rampant, particularly through an individual who wants to be president.
I actually went to schools that taught us how to research and know what is reputable, the spelling of the websites, etc. Got updated when I worked at a bank. SMH Good idea! We need this for our schools.
I'd say a lot of MAGAs could benefit from this, but you'd never get them to participate.They prefer to listen only to DJT.
THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS! Keep it simple, you're not dealing with over intelligent people.
I thought a classic sign of propaganda was group over-generalization?
@@RichardQuaid Except that "they are eating the dogs" has been conclusively documented.
@@rickbethwhite3479 Do you fool yourself with your lies?
Hey TH-cam, why do you let them lies about the dogs?
I want to take this training!
Mangolini has given hundreds of examples to the Finnish teachers of why critical thinking is so vital.
Actually that final quote was from Daniel Patrick Moynihan
And???
So nobody else can have that saying? The guy has a monopoly on it? :D
@@Caldera01 I’m just saying in a video about disinformation, maybe we should correctly attribute the quote.
@@sirdiealot53 Why? It's a saying in Finland that she referred to in natural conversation. When you speak normally to you cite everything you say that is attributed to others? That would not be normal human speech.
I'd put Emotional Intelligence up there with Critical Thinking.
As a Finn I can confirm we have that as well - starting out in the kindergarten. As a father who is not that good in teaching kids on how to handle their (often very strong and unfiltered) feelings I am very grateful we get that in the early education.
@@Aer0n023 good to hear :)
The filter on the CBS Sunday Morning camera when filming Jane Pauley, or the work done in post production is ridiculous and distracting. Aging is a blessing!
Let’s go Li Andersson! She’s the former chair for the Left Party here in Finland.
Li Andersson got almost 250 000 personal votes in the election for the EU Parliament; that is more than some entire parties. The reason was not that a leftist would be that popular, but a lot of conservatives were thinking how to find a suitable post for her as she could no longer be minister - we need smart people to serve the country no matter what their political agenda might be, as everyone needs to compromise anyways.
@@sampohonkala4195 I don’t wanna speculate if conservatives voted for her or not but she absolutely got a lot of support from people who weren’t leftists or even left wing because of her personality and her way to handle politics. I like her. I hope she and other leftists wouldn’t have to compromise though, we need good left wing politics for the working class. It would take the air out of the far right.
@@TheAxeaman She is well informed and on top of things, quite bright and obviously a good human being which is not the most common quality among politicians. By compromises I mean that in domestic politics no party can get a majority to fully run any ideology. In the EU Parliament it is even more clear that a smart Finn with any agenda is a better choice than a stupid one with any agenda. I agree we need good left wing politicians to keep a balance.
@@sampohonkala4195 No, I don't want balance, I want politics that is good for the working class and not for the capitalist class. Otherwise I agree with you. :)
@@TheAxeaman As I have seen the 1970's I believe there is socialist dictatorship at one end and capitalist dictatorship at the other; balance is somewhere reasonably far from both. I have a one man firm but also work for a company so I jind If understand both sides.
Does it include not trusting CBS?
I.E. Creative editing of Krazy Kackling Kamala's rambling word salad to make her appear more intelligible.
These Finnish kids speak better English than Trump.
It's not only Finland... it's the entire region that one shall praise. Looking at neighbouring countries, all of them (Estonia, Norway, Denmark) rank very high. It seems to be common in these countries. And as an Estonian I can surely confirm that I was taught the same😊. Give us credit too😂
We did have a migrant problem back in 2015-2016(could be wrong years but a while ago, long before NATO membership) when Russia sent some over and pretty huge % of them came to cause problems. Like they had to silence the local news outlets about the things happening because the far right started to patrol in the streets. So yes a lot of negative things happened and people started to get angry. I do not support the far right but I don't like it when they silence the media either, but probably it was the only thing to do to calm the situation down.
7 years ago a comedy show made a short video about Putin, Trump, Merkel and Niinistö.. already in that the one that played Trump said "...Ukraine that ain't even part of Russia, YET...". My point a comedy show over here saw that one coming so my point is that stop saying that it was a surprise. Like why do you think we have 5% of the population as wartime army and up to 15% in reserve, because we suddenly woke up to who the Muscovians are?
Its not a wall, its a fence to guide people trying to cross the border to the border checkpoints. It is there to make the job of the border guards easier by guiding people trying to cross to certain points also to protect people from entering the wilderness, like we do have dangerous animals in the woods and the terrain is "deadly rough". Like even local people can get lost in the swamps and fall through the floating ground never to be seen again.
The dumbing down of America....so sad.
My son was raised in critical thinking and curiosity, got him in trouble in kindergarten in TX. teacher read 3 little pigs and he correctly stated that strawbale homes do so hold up to wind, no he wasn't worried about learning cursive as he was going to us keyboard and was practicing touch typing. That was in 1994,doubt teacher has learned anything since. I brought him home to educate.
Those will bever be offered here, both parties like to look the other way if it means they can get a few extra votes. They never call out the other party because they both do it...
That's why they got the best education system in the world
Probably not the best but good enough
Everyone should be concerned when government schools train you on what you should or should not believe. This sounds like a big opening for state propaganda programming.
Suomi mainittu, Torilla tavataan!!! 🇫🇮 🇫🇮 🇫🇮
Strange Hawii residents said the same ! Fema also offered to buy them out in Hawaii !
If only we had this everywhere, instead the kids need to wear bullet proof backpacks and raise money to erase their lunch debt. Absolutely fked up.
To be fair, we do have this in at least some American schools. The public schools I went to, definitely promoted this. 19 states have media literacy as part of the law in public education. This is one of the disadvantages I suppose of having education controlled by the states 🤷🏻♂️
Good
Li Anderson. I’ve seen her couple of times in public. Just casually leading a Left party in coffee shop. Today she’s in European parliament.
Jussi Halla-Aho. The guy who was talking about burning ghettos is currently the speaker of our parliament. So it’s a good time to start recognizing so fake news. Just kidding, some real issues there actually. But not ghettos.
Jussi was reffering to the situation of Sweden. And saying that if we dont do anything to the problem, that will be the future of our suburps
like halla aho or not ( I personally dont), but he has been the most outspoken against russia for the longest, back when kokoomus, vihreät and sdp for example were talking about how russia can be trusted and we should increase trade he was one of the only ones actually opposing it. so using him in this video is the defintion of fake news ironically.
Pro-rus trolls are even more furious due to these news
Trump won.❤
It's the end of NATO
is this not standard education?
That kid speaks two languages at just 11 yo
Three, likely four (Finnish, Swedish, English, Spanish)
@@henrifin yeah if you count A1-A2 level as "speaks"
Here in the U.S. we'd be happy if the media simply reported what happened. Stop telling us what it means or how we should feel. That's the fake part.
The media does report facts. They reported the Jan 6 insurrection, for example. But too many people don't believe it because their cult leader tells them what to think.
I confirm as a Finn that I cringe when I watch news anchors from the likes of CNN explain how to feel about the news. Even if I agree with the sentiment. In Finland, that just wouldn't fly. That part would be left to interviews with subject matter experts.
Sweden aswell
That is a lot of English being spoken in Finland in this video.
"There IS a place for fantasy!" - CBS correspondent
Adults, young and old in the US who are doing critical thinking are the ones not falling for the messaging and gaslighting of corporate run media! As long as corporations control what gets covered and the messaging that news organizations must align with, saying this is needed in our country is comical! Our education system sucks because our system is set up to create a cheap labor force!!!
what? i thought everybody had this now? i guess thats because i live in finland
These Finnish children will be eating our lunch in twenty years - if not before - but we got a $75 tax cut. 🙄
Why are they interviewing the former minister of education whom is the long time leader of the far-left party and not current minister of education?
Just left not far-left.
Very likely the current minister was too buzy. Besides Li has way longer experience.
@@realtsarbomba Is a Marxist in the left or far-left? If it is not in the far-left, i dont know what is XD
Well dispite good teaching, some Finns ssems to loose this capability becoming audult. Right wing populists was the third biggest party in the last election, and is currently sitting in the government.
The same thing is happening the whole Europe. And the left has coused it, by allowing mass illegal immigration.
@@PetriWWhere did you get that "allowing"? Illegal is not allowed. If you mean refugees I wonder who attacked Irak. Or Libya. And now it seems there will be 2000000 new refugees coming from Lebanon. Must be that "left wing" causing these problems.
I'm pretty much right wing guy, wealthy and living my best life. Those nowadays "right wingers" are something else. First they cause collapsed societys like in Iraq and Libya. Then they whine that they can't shoot those refugees on the border. And when those so called "right wingers" get the power like in Hungary there will be huge corruption and oligarchy. And that is the end of capitalism and beginning of degenerating oligarchy. No real right winger can be fascist because it is basically an end of the free markets and capitalism but many fascists call them selves "right wingers".