Even if it did, the stealth one would still beat it out. As it is less of a risk to use and has the benefit of dropping aggro. Which can make getting kills on elites easier. Plus you're not getting attacked for those 2 seconds, so its almost like a 2 second immunity. Blade Dance would IMO have to do significantly higher damage to be considered a viable option. Or given some other benefit to mitigate or off set the risk.
@@covahredro8370 eh sometimes it's about the fun not about playing the best or meta stuff. Ofc, stealth is one of the best talents in the game, so if you want to really maximize your chances, then you would always take this, but bleed would make for fun playstyle changes inbetween. However without armor damage, this fun is heavily reduced while also being really bad powerwise (which in vermintide you can always make up with skill - everything is viable, just some are more powerful/easier to use)
@@IllerChIller88 I get that, but fun still has to work or at least be useful. Otherwise it can suddenly become very unfun and frustrating. Personally charging in/dash in abilities can be fun in certain circumstances. But for the most part they're more of a liability at times, and not as useful when compared to other career abilities. Though Battlewizard's and slayer's are ok as you have a little more control over them, and can help the team due their AoE. Where as Footknight's, Zealot's and Handmaiden's aren't very helpful and can be down right a death sentence(straight off a cliff)
It can oneshot assassins in cata and it frees any ally instantly if grabbed by leech or assa when you dash through. Bonus points for not dumping aggro on unsuspecting teammates. It is a nice talent. With strenght potion it does armor damage.
I remember my best friend saying "I like to imagine hand maiden dashing through the skaven and just stealing their blood over time with this perk. Its useless but funny to imagine"
Woah, didn't know that Bloodshot works with Loaded Bow! Same goes for Bladedancer, which is a shame. :/ You're my favorite Vermintide 2 YTer. Keep up the good and informative work!
Ironbark thicket is S tier if you use it correctly, which you very much didn't in your clip. Make chokes and block flanks, not randomly drop it in your own path like an idiot. Also doesn't slow you down, jump or dash through it.
I always use shadow step on shade, it gives her more mobility and really helps to position urself in a fight. And ye, you can just dash god knows where in the middle of a hord or away from the moster or just straight up out of the map and screw urself up, but if u don't want to go anywhere u can cancel dash with a block. Its pretty easy to do. So u pretty much have handmaiden ult but better, with a monster/elite/special damage on ur hit
Pressing F on a flat area and watching 4-8 arrows just fly out hitting tons of headshot dings and killfeed buzzing past it really makes you feel powerful.
@@xNOKxTURNALx Noobs pick her because its a button you press every cooldown and automatically get kills, once you start learning the game and mechanics she is able to smooth out difficulty spikes by clearing dangerous packs with some careful aim.
Wow so I just now I realized I got the image for loaded bow and piercing shot confused. Damn you 3am brain 😩
oh wow, didn't know about handmaidens bleed dash not damaging armored units. that is really sad, would be a fun talent for casual play :(
Even if it did, the stealth one would still beat it out. As it is less of a risk to use and has the benefit of dropping aggro. Which can make getting kills on elites easier. Plus you're not getting attacked for those 2 seconds, so its almost like a 2 second immunity.
Blade Dance would IMO have to do significantly higher damage to be considered a viable option. Or given some other benefit to mitigate or off set the risk.
@@covahredro8370 eh sometimes it's about the fun not about playing the best or meta stuff. Ofc, stealth is one of the best talents in the game, so if you want to really maximize your chances, then you would always take this, but bleed would make for fun playstyle changes inbetween. However without armor damage, this fun is heavily reduced while also being really bad powerwise (which in vermintide you can always make up with skill - everything is viable, just some are more powerful/easier to use)
@@IllerChIller88 I get that, but fun still has to work or at least be useful. Otherwise it can suddenly become very unfun and frustrating.
Personally charging in/dash in abilities can be fun in certain circumstances. But for the most part they're more of a liability at times, and not as useful when compared to other career abilities. Though Battlewizard's and slayer's are ok as you have a little more control over them, and can help the team due their AoE. Where as Footknight's, Zealot's and Handmaiden's aren't very helpful and can be down right a death sentence(straight off a cliff)
It can oneshot assassins in cata and it frees any ally instantly if grabbed by leech or assa when you dash through. Bonus points for not dumping aggro on unsuspecting teammates. It is a nice talent. With strenght potion it does armor damage.
@@illdomybestazumgi2900 good points, still really hampered by no armor damage at all. at least some would be fair I feel
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's tier list.
I remember my best friend saying "I like to imagine hand maiden dashing through the skaven and just stealing their blood over time with this perk. Its useless but funny to imagine"
Woah, didn't know that Bloodshot works with Loaded Bow! Same goes for Bladedancer, which is a shame. :/
You're my favorite Vermintide 2 YTer. Keep up the good and informative work!
Thanks! Glad you were able to learn some new things today
A whole bunch of these have been changed since then, but the S tier ones still hold up.
I think you mixed up the icons for Loaded Bow and Piercing Shot 😅Solid list tho
*crippling depression*
Ironbark thicket is S tier if you use it correctly, which you very much didn't in your clip. Make chokes and block flanks, not randomly drop it in your own path like an idiot. Also doesn't slow you down, jump or dash through it.
I always use shadow step on shade, it gives her more mobility and really helps to position urself in a fight. And ye, you can just dash god knows where in the middle of a hord or away from the moster or just straight up out of the map and screw urself up, but if u don't want to go anywhere u can cancel dash with a block. Its pretty easy to do. So u pretty much have handmaiden ult but better, with a monster/elite/special damage on ur hit
Ye i really like to shot 5 arrow :D
Pressing F on a flat area and watching 4-8 arrows just fly out hitting tons of headshot dings and killfeed buzzing past it really makes you feel powerful.
@@BuckRodgers3 So thats why noobs pick her?
@@xNOKxTURNALx Noobs pick her because its a button you press every cooldown and automatically get kills, once you start learning the game and mechanics she is able to smooth out difficulty spikes by clearing dangerous packs with some careful aim.
S stands for Staple!
I like this series a LOT - thanks for making those.
Also FS - fix bladedancer FFS or replace it for the love of god.
: /
Great video, learned some new things here :)
Ppl still running thorn wall 🙄
Might ya consider doing one for Salt?