the wobbling sound at the background is the sound of digitized spiral track. i guess the 3d printer was a cartesian machine so when you represent let's say a circle in discrete cartesian coordinates and unroll it to be linear, you will get a triangle-ish wave with wobbleing frequency. the pitch of the background noise will be highest at 45, 135, 225, 315 degrees and will drop down to zero at 0, 90, 180, 270 degrees. if youd use a polar 3d printer with the same resolution, that certain noise you're hearing right now wouldve been absent.
@@JAStudiospivotanimation I don't understand it either but a crude oversimplification would be, you are trying to make a circle from a rectangle printing machine (xyz) and the conversion from a circle to that makes the noise with specific characteristics like specific angles of the disk have the highest pitch noise and others have the lowest.
Basically he’s saying it’s a digitally automated machine using a digital manufacturing process to create music so there’s a bunch of noise since the machines step motion is lower def than the original recording. It’s all being computed as some mess of right angles. My big takeaway: Didn’t even know polar 3d printers existed
Looking at the comment I made 5 years ago, I can say I was talking gibberish, sorry. At that time I preferred looking smart over conveying people information. The noise is the result of transforming discrete cartesian coordinates to polar coordinates. It's like rolling a square on it's corners like if it's a wheel. The car is gonna jump at each of four corners. In reality the (nearly)circular track is more like a pixelated circle, and while the needle tracks that circle, it bumps into corners of each pixels. When printed with a polar 3d printer, the track is not pixelated and is a continuous circle.
@@pompshuffle562 question the main comment then mines, are you backwards or simply bored? Make a family, you're not old because you would question the main comment and you possibly don't have kids because you have too much time to mess about. I've never had that long to be in the middle.
I am impressed with the whole concept of a 3D-printed record, particularly since there are so few vinyl pressing plants in the world currently and there is an overwhelming demand for records at the moment which provides a window for 3D-printed records to become more common in the marketplace (provided they sound good). With some refinement and improvements, I could envision 3D-printed records becoming more mainstream for people to download an album to print on their own machines at home or to buy 3D-printed records made in front of them at retail kiosks, etc, but the sound has to be much, much better to rival a properly stamped record album. The experiment is very impressive indeed, but the sound quality is awful (for now, but it will improve), especially considering that aside from LP's and 45's (as well as EP records), I have 78's from the 30's and 40's that sound better than that 3D-printed record, but it is a very cool idea for sure.
Amazing it works at all. We'll all be able to buy 3d printed things with precise geometries when I'm old. Theres so much unrealised promise in 3d printing. Keep up the good work pushing the envelope!
WOW -an amazing achievement - quite frankly to have sound quality coming out distinctively like that is wonderful from a 3D printed disc :) Obviously 3D printing is rapidly expanding at a huge pace and originally I would have been impressed if it would have printed properly at all, but because it can and that you've actually discovered a very clever method to reproduce the groove sounds you're trying to print from an actual sound file with full RIAA equalisation, I really do look forward to the next phase of the project with the next generation of 3D printers. Ignore the trolls, you're doing great :D
I wonder what would happen if you printed it on a 2018 printer. The Ender 3 $200 printer can achieve print qualities comparable to the expensive ones of 2013, so I'm curious if the noise that almost sounds like a printer itself is running in the background will disappear.
You shall not use hill and dale recording if you are gonna play it on a standart record player, if your stylus moves up and down instead of side to side you will need to rewire your pickup for that as it is done to play old Edison disks. If making thin grooves is a problem, then you could try making a 78 RPM record, since the stylus to play them is thicker. This is a great project indeed, apart from making records, maybe in the future it will be also be able to fix scratches and bumps on records of historical value.
This is cool... if you wanted to improve it I'd recommend maybe printing a blank one, get the background noise of it, invert the waveform in Audacity and then add that to the track you want to print. That should help cancel some of the noise.
Needs work. A lot of it. Says an article about this, "The grooves on the 3D-printed record are about ten times deeper and ten times wider than those on a pressed vinyl record, so the 3D-printed record can’t hold anywhere near as much audio as a pressed record."
It looks like the end result came with way too much lower frequency sounds and very little higher frequency sound. If you design a slope where you get rid of the most of lower frequency sound, for example starting by eliminating 90% of 20 hz, 85% of 60hz, 70% of 1 khz, 50% of 8 khz and just going up perfectly until you eliminate 0% of 44 khz and then slightly raise the recording volume of the piece (unless there isn't an issue with volume and distorting noise isn't introduced as a result of the volume increase) then you might get a perfectly high quality sounding recorded 3D piece of record. The end result here is to regulate the lower frequency sound which obviously is way out of proportion than the higher frequency by reducing way more lower frequencies than higher frequencies in an attempt to equalize it reasonably.
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That 3d printer seems to have recorded the sounds of itself printing pretty well.
The fact that you can hear recognisable music coming out of this is quite impressive, particularly from a 2013 3D printer!
Yea, if it was done now it would have sounded much better
that must be a damn expensive 3D printer when he can print such details
@@UnboxingTVofficial yeah probably
Gotta be the most over the top digital to analog conversion.
the wobbling sound at the background is the sound of digitized spiral track. i guess the 3d printer was a cartesian machine so when you represent let's say a circle in discrete cartesian coordinates and unroll it to be linear, you will get a triangle-ish wave with wobbleing frequency. the pitch of the background noise will be highest at 45, 135, 225, 315 degrees and will drop down to zero at 0, 90, 180, 270 degrees. if youd use a polar 3d printer with the same resolution, that certain noise you're hearing right now wouldve been absent.
no clue what you're talking about but you sound really smart so i'm gonna take your word for it
@@JAStudiospivotanimation I don't understand it either but a crude oversimplification would be, you are trying to make a circle from a rectangle printing machine (xyz) and the conversion from a circle to that makes the noise with specific characteristics like specific angles of the disk have the highest pitch noise and others have the lowest.
Basically he’s saying it’s a digitally automated machine using a digital manufacturing process to create music so there’s a bunch of noise since the machines step motion is lower def than the original recording. It’s all being computed as some mess of right angles.
My big takeaway:
Didn’t even know polar 3d printers existed
Looking at the comment I made 5 years ago, I can say I was talking gibberish, sorry. At that time I preferred looking smart over conveying people information. The noise is the result of transforming discrete cartesian coordinates to polar coordinates. It's like rolling a square on it's corners like if it's a wheel. The car is gonna jump at each of four corners. In reality the (nearly)circular track is more like a pixelated circle, and while the needle tracks that circle, it bumps into corners of each pixels. When printed with a polar 3d printer, the track is not pixelated and is a continuous circle.
I like the "meow"
Paulo Bonito its a printer noise actually, vibration from stepper motors are mooved into the record itself
Hideki Shinichi that’s mental
Did the printer literally overdubbed its own motors sound on the music?
@@NicleT yes.
@@HidekiShinichi what happens with a resin printer then?
Sounds like a high-quality Bluetooth speaker muffled by a huge quilt.
In the year 1230 A.D. love this comment
Uh, no lol. Bluetooth sounds way better than that scratchy mess :)
Rennie Ash it's a joke
@@hulkgqnissanpatrol6121 huh? I literally said it's a joke lmfao
@@hulkgqnissanpatrol6121 bruh
1 - Daft Punk - Around the world
2 - New order - Blue monday
3 - Joy Division - Disorder
You're a scientist working on a project in the garage while Joy Division plays in the other room ASMR
Scientists make the machine not use it.. Unfortunately everyone who liked ya comment didn't think and we're drunk like yourself.
@@compositionsforever2466 What?
@@pompshuffle562 question the main comment then mines, are you backwards or simply bored? Make a family, you're not old because you would question the main comment and you possibly don't have kids because you have too much time to mess about.
I've never had that long to be in the middle.
@@compositionsforever2466 I'm sorry, I just don't understand what you are trying to say.
@@pompshuffle562 I think I need to watch the video again. 😂😂😂😂
I find it crazy that you can actually hear the 3D printer noise in the music!
It's a new form of music genre! The Music 3D Print Genre XD
A 78 rpm non microgroove would sound better in this case (with the proper stylus)
This is quit amazing! The amount of detail this printer can obviously produce is extreme!
I am impressed with the whole concept of a 3D-printed record, particularly since there are so few vinyl pressing plants in the world currently and there is an overwhelming demand for records at the moment which provides a window for 3D-printed records to become more common in the marketplace (provided they sound good).
With some refinement and improvements, I could envision 3D-printed records becoming more mainstream for people to download an album to print on their own machines at home or to buy 3D-printed records made in front of them at retail kiosks, etc, but the sound has to be much, much better to rival a properly stamped record album.
The experiment is very impressive indeed, but the sound quality is awful (for now, but it will improve), especially considering that aside from LP's and 45's (as well as EP records), I have 78's from the 30's and 40's that sound better than that 3D-printed record, but it is a very cool idea for sure.
Amazing it works at all. We'll all be able to buy 3d printed things with precise geometries when I'm old. Theres so much unrealised promise in 3d printing.
Keep up the good work pushing the envelope!
Great. The RIAA is going to force us all to have anti-pirate firmware installed in our printers. :P
WOW -an amazing achievement - quite frankly to have sound quality coming out distinctively like that is wonderful from a 3D printed disc :) Obviously 3D printing is rapidly expanding at a huge pace and originally I would have been impressed if it would have printed properly at all, but because it can and that you've actually discovered a very clever method to reproduce the groove sounds you're trying to print from an actual sound file with full RIAA equalisation, I really do look forward to the next phase of the project with the next generation of 3D printers. Ignore the trolls, you're doing great :D
This was 6 years ago, I wonder if the tech has gotten any better.
Wow so many wonderful things wrapped into one video! Audacity, 3D printing, programming, Joy Division, New Order, and Daft Punk.
I am so amazed that this works at all! Bravo - - thanks for posting.
How do u convert a track into a good to print it? I think u could do this with a resin printer.... the mono ones r pretty accurate now
I wonder what would happen if you printed it on a 2018 printer. The Ender 3 $200 printer can achieve print qualities comparable to the expensive ones of 2013, so I'm curious if the noise that almost sounds like a printer itself is running in the background will disappear.
How has this improved with new technology available?
wtf i was litteraly thinking about this song and about weather you could 3dprint a record and then this shows up wtf. youtube is reading my mind
I wonder how this would sound if you were to use a concentric infill/top pattern instead of linear.
that would be so freakn cool to be able to print records...
I'm going to be following the instructions this week! Super excited about this idea
It's just cool that it worked... even though it's not really sounding great.
why did he do a low pass filter?
You killed me with the joy division
It seems, that frequencies above 2 kHz can't recorded this way.
You shall not use hill and dale recording if you are gonna play it on a standart record player, if your stylus moves up and down instead of side to side you will need to rewire your pickup for that as it is done to play old Edison disks.
If making thin grooves is a problem, then you could try making a 78 RPM record, since the stylus to play them is thicker.
This is a great project indeed, apart from making records, maybe in the future it will be also be able to fix scratches and bumps on records of historical value.
what song is this?
By now you should also be able to 3D scan a record and play it without a turntable.
That is awesome, bro.
That's what you call "Lo Fi / High Tech"! As 3D printers get better and better (and much higher resolution), the output will improve dramatically.
Damn, you'd need some pretty tight tolerances
so cool....omg i can't wait for the future & being able to download a wav file & print my own vinyl version.....absofecklutly amazing :)
Raphael Tang You know what high-quality is, smartass?
@@raphtlw u must be a lot of fun at parties
what type of printer was used? can anyone recommend a printer that might work most effectively?
SLA would probably be the most effective but you will need to print a smaller size as well as getting a really good cleaner into the grooves.
BTW I wonder if it is the first in the world. You need a pin for science if a boyscout. Frame it after labelling and you are really a hero.
This is cool... if you wanted to improve it I'd recommend maybe printing a blank one, get the background noise of it, invert the waveform in Audacity and then add that to the track you want to print. That should help cancel some of the noise.
Issue is each print being different it would only work so well
Obviously still needs a lot of work... But once done it will be great!
Woah, Joy Division sounded really cool through this.
Did the needle absoultely wreck the record afterwards? like if you played it again would it sound the same, or noticably degraded?
What were we listening?
Realmente impresionado!!
I’ve been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand...
Haven't heard of someone printing out a record.
It needs a rotating disc to cutting in the record
probably need a special stylus for this. would probably sound better with a larger tip to follow the groves better.
Would this work if you use an fdm 3D printer?
I made a few blank records with my FDM 3D printer, and they are way noisier!
th-cam.com/video/rm6kc1iHjpE/w-d-xo.html
Next goal:
Make a 3D printed record that sounds good enough to get your video demonetized.
oh it's happened - youtube has muted these videos in certain countries, I think I may have a strike or something on my account!
Never seen that done before, very interesting to watch 😎😎😎👍👍👍
Song started like Around the world by daft punk
Try using a 78 Needle
Sounded like a record thas was played with a very very used stylus , and that sounded like a bunch of cats meowing in the back ground .
Is it supposed to sound like ...That?
People, I just found an asmr for myself. That sound! Jeez.
I'd imagine a 3D printer that prints in a circular motion would produce a better result? I also wonder if a laser cutter could do something like this.
Design a 3D printer that moves in circles
Thats impressive
May be it would be better if it were made for 78 rpm and for phonograph needle.
could I make a 78rpm this way? I think so. This format is much more forgiving. Now thats what this weekend was for.
This thing can revolutionize the music world. Keep perfecting!
Blue Monday is an awesome song
if it wasn't for the fact its recording the sound the printer as well. this could be a viable means of small shop/garage band record production.
dpi resolution still requires a massive improval to get good sound quality off a 3D printed record. seemingly :-)
Needs work. A lot of it. Says an article about this, "The grooves on the 3D-printed record are about ten times deeper and ten times wider than those on a pressed vinyl record, so the 3D-printed record can’t hold anywhere near as much audio as a pressed record."
Wow, evil mad scientist making music :)
amazing
There is a possibility of warping.
Disorder
Need to print with vase mode.
Damn, that is one of the most underrated TH-cam maker videos ever.
It could sound better but it’s 3D printed. Anyways sounds cool!
😂🤣 you can hear the z axis stepper!🤣😂
crazy stuff
Люди 40 лет назад записывали музыку на рентгеновских снимках без всяких дорогостоящих 3Д принтеров, и качество было в разы лучше.
Awesome
Great taste of music! Joy Division!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now play it on an AV Designhaus Derenville VPM 2010-1
Попробуйте использовать скорость вращения 78 оборотов в минуту и патефон
I mean that's pretty cool but that sound quality is atrocious though
why do they keep saying its 3d printed it laser cut
No it's not... You can clearly see that it was 3D printed in the video.
Home music pirating at its finest.
This is how piracy went crazy before I was born. 🤣
Maybe if it was a dbx record it may have helped LOL
3 D printing isn't fine enough
what if they tried using a resin printer
yeah lol, it's printing direction resonates as static
you can hear the static go up and down, as it closens and distances the print direction x)
in this time
I wonder how many people are gonna come here because of a big 3d printer company's April fools joke
It looks like the end result came with way too much lower frequency sounds and very little higher frequency sound. If you design a slope where you get rid of the most of lower frequency sound, for example starting by eliminating 90% of 20 hz, 85% of 60hz, 70% of 1 khz, 50% of 8 khz and just going up perfectly until you eliminate 0% of 44 khz and then slightly raise the recording volume of the piece (unless there isn't an issue with volume and distorting noise isn't introduced as a result of the volume increase) then you might get a perfectly high quality sounding recorded 3D piece of record. The end result here is to regulate the lower frequency sound which obviously is way out of proportion than the higher frequency by reducing way more lower frequencies than higher frequencies in an attempt to equalize it reasonably.
Creepy.
over the shoulder computer screen shots are cliche
print music to listen
MEOW!
Blue monday
Good start now improve the sound. Remove the meow. Good luck I love it.
Another copyright nightmare is all I can see coming up as if vinyl is making it back into the shops again......... o it is get the lawyers out.
i bet if you used a wider needle or a phonograph player it would sound a lot better.
The177Hunter he was, that's what the aftermarket yellow stylus was.
Ian Curtis revolves around the grave if he hear this 3D printed Record.
Go Printing Technology:FDM
Persian Quality work. Most likely a PhD or Masters thesis?
DAFT PUNK