Supreme Court Ruling: How Does It Affect Trucking?
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We all know it is way to regulated, Harassment is an understatement when i cross 6 different DOT scales in one day.
That’s south east.
True, but somehow ONLY THE DRIVERS became more regulated while mega-carriers and load brokers were allowed to run amok...
Def is a scam that keeps trucks parked at the shops 😢
Agreed. One of the things gov loves to do it's create jobs, especially for their minonions. The jobs are not only government jobs but also jobs in the private sector.
The creation of DEF is one of those worthless jobs.
To contrast FMCSA is one of those gov agencies with pretent jobs "cloaked in safety". TSA is another. In the case of both, we would need neither one. The only reason they were brought into being was to allow the Invasion of our Nation to provide Mass numbers of cheaper labor and Massive numbers of Consumers.
ALL OF HAS BEEN EXTREMELY BAD FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS but great for business, Corporations, Gov, representatives, foreign countries and their people, while destroying the very people that made this Nation, Europe and all of Western Civilization.
I am not one to stick up for any Emissions garbage, but I know one simple fact, what they have done has made a difference, as a total package, not necessarily the veracity of each individual systems. Don't know how long you have been out here, but I got my CDL's in 93 and I remember my first time rolling into an Arizona truck stop in the summer and all them trucks idling, the fumes were so strong, a haze, walking back to my truck I almost got sick, the heat holding it low to the tarmac. I was no softie to it either, spending lots of time at drag tracks and races. Emissions may be BS. but it has made a difference, that is the FACT, experienced from 1993 to 2024. Now that just means they did what they set out to do, doesn't mean the tradeoffs were viable, but that will always be opinion based.
@@sword-and-shield nobody’s blowing black plumes of smoke anymore but the fact that these electric tractors could dance to the tune of 400000 is putting people out of business and the equipment is crap it’s robbery threw regulations
@@sword-and-shield we are all suffering from the effects of the foods we consume and the air we breathe maybe if we stopped fireworks over water illegal dumping and spraying chemicals into the air maybe if restaurants aren’t feeding people plastic disguised as food I would listen to that argument it’s an awful amount of pollution that’s not from trucks
@@michaelduvall913 Far far bigger problems wrecking the industry then emissions. Progress has always left many whining, with just about all progress. My point was that it was not total bs, they got the intended effect, did they rape monies along the way, absolutely, all progress does tho.
"Take a nap if you feel fatigued."
"You took a nap, we think you have a sleep disorder."
Jesus Christ. There's just no winning with these people. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Dot Should have restrooms available for the trucks they pull in. With out restrooms they are harassing truck drivers. The states should be sued for not having them.
@jerimiah3118; send complaint to OSHA and Your Health Department and get the ball started. They will have to open an investigation and can be shut down and/or fined if they do not comply timely.
I’m just waiting to hear that I can delete my DEF. I know drivers that almost lost their business over $8000 def repairs and that’s cheap because he didn’t go through the dealer and didn’t need to get towed. What a scam they have.
I deleted it ages ago. Just don't go the CA and any states passes NY. You will be fine. 😂 If you lives at those states you better run for keep business in trucking.
The epa will just back off from diesel engines enforcement and simply ask Congress to legislate the issue.
@@heydennisha if you breakdown near your dealer, they won’t fix your truck once they see that it’s been deleted. That’s the main reason I didn’t do it yet. So far I have broken down once and the closest mechanic was a peterbilt dealer so I had to go there. Good thing I didn’t delete. However, everyone tells me that once I delete, I will have less breakdowns . It’s always a NOX sensor or something related to that DEF system.
@@MrLoudog7 who goes to a dealer these days. They charge you 2x-3x of the price and the quality even worse than local mom and pop mechanics shop. I went twice for dealer service and never again. Most of the time they have all the premium tool and don't even know what they are doing , and another break down right after out of the dealer with the same problem. ! Plus as being a small business owner , max profit margin is my priority for current survival, and that potential mechanical issues that belongs to the future or it may be is not a problem at all .and if you keep your def after 700k miles your truck would keep breaking down cause of it , and keep spending 8k to13k a year to let the dealer just temporarily fix it only last couple months unless you replace the whole after treatment system and that s total of 20k to 40k USD . So enjoy that. That why all the mega company buy a new truck once the old ones hit 400k miles. But for small dogs like us not allow to do that.if the gov don't give the small dog any incentive to keep the def system , then there is no point for me just kept burning tons of money to just keep it.
@@MrLoudog7 ok. If you break down just go to the mom and pop shop. Why I need dealership anyway. If they charge you 2or 3 times of the price but can't even fix the issue (def problem after your truck hit 700+k mile). That's why all the big company replace their trucks every 400k miles. You basically have two options after your truck hit 400k miles. Kept spending 8k -13 k every year just for a temporarily fix, spend 20-40k USD to replace the whole def system , option 2 delete it or buy a new truck.
I've been screaming from the rooftop about Chevron Deference for over 30 years. This is an absolute dream come true to me... the 6 to 3 decision tells me we still have work to do.
Yes vote EVERY DEMOCRAT out of office!!!!!!!
Time to push back on aftertreatment systems!
You didnt mention mention EPA and DEF systems but thank you for making the video! Im excited for the future!
You can probably put a pre emissions engine in a new truck without fear of the communist epa and broker transparency will go through courts not arbitration.
She's oblivious
Nah shes actually pretty thorough. @@ThatOneGuy-hp2pb
DeF is a scam
increase the compression and increase minimum rpm reduced emissions
only problem is city stop 🛑 and go traffic
down time idling
? diesel power generators have a fixed rpm that they operate at that in the end reduces emissions they are on and running at fixed speed or off not running no idieling
My dad was a trucker from the gas burner days, he made it a point to keep me out of trucking. He knew the business would be regulated to death. With this new ruling, I think it would be safe to reconsider my options.
I'm curious to see how long it takes for a challenge to def filters
I have always thought that the FMCSA has just way too much power
How about enforcing the laws that require freight brokers to disclose what rates the shipper pays for a load.
This is what happens when you have pencil pushers make regulations and laws for an industry that they have no clue about. Hopefully they’ll start to employ people in these departments that understand and have worked in these industries.
should be a requirement
Dismantle ALL 3 letter agencies and make TERM LIMITS MANDATORY
Thanks for the update and clarity. 🇺🇸
How about these:
1. High blood pressure monitoring which just got ruled on
2. Sleep apnea which isn't even a Rule.
3. The specific guidance for anti depression medication
4. Diabetes guidelines
This is just a start for specific rules on a ",General Physical". Here's the problem, you still have to file site which is prohibitive. Truckers don't have the time nor the financial resources to fight the huge coffers to defend itself.
Thanks for the breakdown and insight I have a better understanding now.
No federal agencey is capable og making a good decision for anyone
Thank you for covering this, I would not have caught the press release without your heads up. 😁
Salute to you, Ms. Info thanks ...
Great video and good info
Great video as always. Happy 4th of July.
YOU are the go to trucking journalist...thx for the vid
Just need the hours of service re-looked at, and the allowance of removal or ban of egr/def systems and look for greater alternatives like the speed of air dimple pistons. They make your truck run cleaner and more efficient. Maybe even have the DOT officers relax on their bs.
Thank you it helps❤
Great info!
Not sure of your sources, but it started with chevron challenging the gov. on rules to follow and ENDED with the fisherman saying they shouldn’t have to pay for observers. Great video overall!!
You are very articulate and knowledgeable. Well done in explaining the rulings.
Thank you 🙏🏾
This will be a turning point in favor of trucking companies! Thanks for sharing this with us!
Love this lady's insight.
Great news 👍
This is a good thing! Let see how it changes regulations
very interesting!
Great Video and Great Subject matter! Since this SCOTUS case is fairly new, someone needs to research and post often with links! TMS…..here’s your chance!!!!!
Thanks!
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It won't be a moment or two of uncertainty, the Supreme Court did more than make it easier to challenge regulations, they basically gutted the vast majority of agencies to regulate in the first place. They've effectively made it so that if the regulation isn't expressly laid out in legislation by Congress then the odds of it being effected by the agency are virtually nil. Every regulation can be challenged at any time by anyone claiming injury, even if the actual claim is spurious and will tie up court resources which are already taxed. And this can/will be done in virtually every situation where regulations exist outside of the direct legislation set forth by Congress.
Instead of one sometimes heavy handed system, we'll now have 50 independent ones, because that always works out so well.
@@dangranot5703 Well said. Now instead of agencies having expertise in a certain areas and topics promulgating rules, courts with only a superficial understanding will be the authority. With this ruling, now the courts are going to have to grapple with applying congressional intent, when even Congress left that to agencies.
Chevron *only* applied to places where the law was vague. Most laws are not vague, but are painfully pendent in defining everything.
The idea that the regulators are the experts, and should be listened to is sound in theory, but in reality regulators get over zealous.
Chevron Doctrine turned out to violate a federal law passed in the early 20th century that was specifically intended to prevent regulators from being too zealous. SCOTUS did not even need to address the separation of powers issues the Chevron created, but it certainly is a violation of that.
Now, instead of Chevron being the standard (courts *had* to bow to unelected regulators), Lenity will take its place requiring that laws be interpreted in the light that is most beneficial to the defendant. If the people do not like the outcome, then the people can change the law through Congress.
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See if there is a way to position your source for reading so you can look like your not reading. If your using MS word you can adjust the reading speed.
Former trucking association employee (retired).
I don't like the idea of lobbyists for corporations being able to buy a favorable ruling as an excuse to cut corners wherever possible. None of this will trickle down to individual truckers, it'll just make it easier for carriers to cut every possible corner in the name of corporate profits for shareholders and at the expense of the individual trucker. I see positives in this ruling, but there are a lot of net negatives that should be explored, that no one is talking about.
@@TheWandererOTR then it makes sense to buy stock in better trucking companies that are publicly traded.
Buy favorable ruling? Like bribe a judge?
HAHA. Very funny.
What about lobbyists who hire former regulators at huge salaries as "consultants."
Which do think happens more often?
@@joshua43214 Large corporations have abundant resources available to them to be able to influence the courts to make or amend a ruling in a way that makes it more favorable to their interests. Political Lobbying and Campaign Contributions to influence lawmakers to appoint judges sympathetic to corporate interests. Corporations strategically select cases to bring before the courts, aiming to establish precedents or challenge existing ones that could impact their profitability.
They fund cases through advocacy groups or directly through their legal departments. Hence, the overturning of the Chevron doctrine ruling. Lastly, they fund extravagant trips and networking engagements for Supreme justices, where heads of these large corporations have personal access to them, often buying lavish gifts for them and their families. (Look at justice Thomas.) These are common tactics that large corporations use in order to further their own interests, often at the expense of their employees.
and these are just the legal avenues that they use, and now on top of all that, there's no government intermediary in place to check the power of a particular corporation working with the judges to pass laws in their favor, and to get rid of the ones that they don't like.
Wait. I thought we were all replaced by robots by now. lol. Thanks for the trucking news update. You’ve earned a new subscriber.
Great video because I’m looking at this new equipment that they are selling and it’s nowhere near as good as the older trucks and it’s regulations that are costing us unnecessarily
Some people believe in no regulation....... Repeal it all......... The idea is that employers are ultimately responsible financially for hiring unqualified drivers and they will bankrupt themselves........ No need to harass the rest of us with 6 different DOT inspection stations every day. Leave the obvious regulation's in place like no speeding, no running stop signs. But gut 99 percent of it.
It's time to remove some ridiculous rules.
Smaller Government equals more freedom .
no government equals FREEDOM
Thank you for that explanation! Hopefully, the ELD mandate will be challenged successfully!
Get these rates up
Can we overturn ELD!!!
@@erickpacheco1623 it might be possible. If someone challenged the 2003 log book rules and had it overturned then it should affect the eld mandate. The 2003 rule for log books was a detriment to drivers and their health. It was hard enough under the rules prior to the rule change but after 2003 they made drivers work longer in an already stressful day. They also made sleeper teams work harder and made driving a truck less safe.
Is the FMCSA limiting food?
Canadian drivers can driver 13 hours and sleep just 8. Would you please compare in of your videos Canada vs. US. ELD rules.
Repealing the chevron doctrine should also effect the DOT and the FAA
FMCSA's Coersion rule says that brokers, shippers and receivers can't order truckers to roll dirty on equipment or hours without consequences. This was already the rule for trucking companies under federal law (it's in the Surface Transportation Assistance Act). That's one FMCSA regulation I hope they can keep.
If it is in the law, then it is law.
If it was vague in the law, then Chevron used to apply.
@@joshua43214 The FMCSA coercion rule as applied to trucking companies is fine. As applied to shippers, receivers and brokers? Yeah, that's not in the federal law in question (Surface Transportation Assistance Act).
I hope FMCSA gets away with that one but...yeah. (Plus they've done a shitty job of enforcement...)
To think that Judges are better regulators than the agencies themselves (the enforcers) Is ludicrous.
That like telling police officers all their regulations will be set by courts… this will be unworkable. Especially because we don’t have enough judges to handle the cases.
All law emanates from Congress. Regulators have exactly the power that Congress gives them. The courts do not become regulators now, the regulators are no longer able to make law out of re-interpreting the powers they are given.
Consider the department of education: Do you trust either Trump or Obama to regulate Title IX? If you say no to either one, then you should be happy about this ruling.
Miranda ❤️
i feel you speak very well. How many years of trucking experience do you have? I watch you look at what appears to be another monitor as what also appears you are doing is reading from it, and this makes wonder if you have any experience. Please let me know. Thank you.
I read my notes and quotes from the monitor. Sadly not a superhuman to remember everything I want to say by heart
I had to put with the DOT BS for years as a trucker. . Hell some states can't even interpret the "bridge" rules correctly.
DOT shouldn’t be able to pull you over for no reason
Got it. More easily recognised in 18 USC §242. Whats legal isnt actually lawful. Statutes and Regulations are not laws, even when ones claimed to be... ❤️
Exactly
ELDs, speed limiters, sleep testing, basically any RULEMAKING, that wasnt actually a LAW, passed by congress, can be up for scrutiny. I emplore EVERY owner op to send OOIDA, $25 to $50 to help them challenge the crap out of these Arbitrary rules. LFG!!!!
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Please, someone tell me if CSA POINTS are an actual law or more of the rule making?
So with Chevron being overruled do all the CSA system completely null and void?
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So we're going from having non-elected agency administrators deciding what the law is/requires, and now having a random unelected judge who knows even less about the trucking industry than the regulators making these same decisions. Rulings are going to be all over the map, uncertainty will be even worse, and it's gonna be regulatory chaos. I never liked Chevron deference from the beginning, but taking 40 years to attempt a reset is madness.
Some people believe in no regulation....... Repeal it all......... The idea is that employers are ultimately responsible financially for hiring unqualified drivers and they will bankrupt themselves........ No need to harass the rest of us with 6 different DOT inspection stations every day. Leave the obvious regulation's in place like no speeding, no running stop signs. But gut 99 percent of it.
No, you will be trusting Juries. Judges rule on matters of Law, juries rules on matters of Fact.
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Bout time trucking gets a win!
You can keep the over the road now. I Drive local and love the money's it's good.
The trucking industry needs to sue the EPA over emissions laws, specifically DEF.
Won’t affect it at all, You may have noticed our Government agencies chest ignore whatever the Supreme Court says
Yep. Just like the cannabis industry and house squatters issues . Nothing has changed😂. Even fed and suppreme court set the bar but no states follow and none of them get in trouble . Amendment ? What is that thing ? 😂
Hopefully they do something about the 10hr mandatory rest period. All drivers don't need 10 hours to sleep, let alone 6. Drivers can be more productive and efficient with more drive time. There are 3.5 million truck drivers and only 312,000 parking spots. DEF tears the truck engine apart and the taxes are becoming confiscatory
To many rules, regs, mandates, statutes & codes. Not worth the hassle to carry CDL. Turned it in & didn't renew ... gave the State & DOT the "wick" ( finger ).
What about CARB will this affect them. They made law which in turn forced us to buy trucks that met their standards. This is unconstitutional along with the eld mandate. Will this affect CARB
The Supreme Court’s ruling is a positive but these agencies will do what the politicians and activist groups do in that they will shop around for the courts sympathetic towards their issues. They will get lower court rulings their way and there will be different outcomes in different jurisdictions conflicting and so there will be confusion until an appeals court or even the Supreme Court rules on a particular issue.
Rules are for children.Laws are for adults.Policies are for employees of the company only
Basically, the FMCSA had the power, and did nothing but harass the trucking industry instead of looking out for it, and now that power has been taken away. I’m good with that
You surprise me with a video today. What are you doing working😊
Happy 4th! No rest for the weary.
You too.
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You didn’t even wish everyone a Happy 4th!? 😞. C’mon Miranda
I did yesterday my friend
She did.
nice outfit
I have 2 old trucks no DEF or emissions. I can’t compute all the downtime with newer equipment. I have never considered anybody in government service, that knows anything about trucking.
These mega carriers tend to go overboard with their sleep studies, that's for sure
@@Tanker_Wanker They want to sell you a cpap machine. I was told not to worry I could make payments. How nice!! I showed up with a good medical card, was told it was gonna expire soon so I must see there chiropractor. Made me do a sleep study while I was staying in there prison style lodgings( plastic covered thin mattress). I got the strong impression they were disappointed I didn’t have sleep apnea.
Congress must have paid the courts to side with Chevron making they’re job to just run for reelection 😂
The executive branch should not be allowed to write regulations that are not approved by Congress prior to implementation. It’s unconstitutional.
Point taken. But letting the judicial branch effectively write the regulations is no better. Power moves into a vacuum, and in this case the inability of Congress to write clear and coherent laws opened the door to the executive and judicial branches adding their two cents.
One of the biggest problems in America has been the gradual theft of powers by the executive branch.
@@TheRm65 Congress has delegated this power to the executive. That delegation is unconstitutional.
You know what else we need to push back on? States that have extra fee to drive on them after you paid taxes and plates for all 48 states, such as Oregon, Kentucky and New Mexico doing their own ifta bs
This is "the party of law and order" defunding the police.
Working at night can give you a sleep disorder so opposite thinking 🤔
When is someone going to regulate these foreign freight brokers???? I have my own authority and I only get calls for foreign freight brokers
I would love not to be forced to to use a sleep apnea device
These rulings will go a long way to help drain the swamp.
It’s my belief that most if not all branches of government are illegal and over reaching in their power to mandate laws and enforce them. For example the United States Coast Guard first was created to protect the water boundaries of the United States. Since their inception they have been moved inland and are the federal agency that police’s the inland waterways. This branch of government has been moved all over the place as to what department of government they should be in or connected too. In 1970’s they were mandated by Congress to do some type of cleanup of all the towboat operators (actual men piloting these vessels) we were unlicensed because there were no laws mandating that diesel power vessels be inspected and have licensed personnel operating these vessels. There were a few steam powered vessels operating up to the end of the 60’s then they were totally fazed out because of licensed requirements for steam powered vessels. Ever since this has come about there been nothing but more and more requirements added to this movement. When I retired from the industry you were required as a minimum to have and operators license that you were tested for by the USCG, radar endorsement, a DOT physical, drug screening along with random drug testing and DOT security card and now required to go to a similar school. Which all these things cost you money. Which without one of these requirements you couldn’t stand a navigational watch on the inland waterways of the United States. Now in 1970 when I started piloting there wasn’t any requirements! By 1971 you were given a multiple choice test of twenty questions on rules of navigation and given a color blindness check which meant you know red from green. And you signed a form stating that you would not willfully pollute the waterways. Well guess who came up with the form for the pollution you guessed it the EPA! The whole thing of the government telling everyone how they are going to operate their business and who they can hire and why they can’t fire someone is totally out of control! The very idea of illegals being able drive commercial vehicles on the roads of the United States just doesn’t even seem legal to me. I hold a CDL class A license took all the test didn’t go to a driving school. Now my understanding is you have to go to school to get a CDL period. You can’t obtain this license on your own. And our government doesn’t have a corrupt politician one in it! It’s totally out of hand! People driving commercial vehicles in our country that can’t speak English! On some kind of work permit! What’s next?
I want to see lawsuits for some of these outrages rules they implement on carrier and the IRS
So disappointing.
SCOTUS ruling removing chevron means that instead of the courts having to defer to govt depts who have expertise in a matter, the judges will make decisions without having ANY expertise in the matter.
And the rulings don't have to be consistent from one judge to the other, just however they happen to feel that day. It will be inconsistently applied across ALL industries.
And you think this is a good thing? This will be the definition of chaos....
For example, Cabotage rules prevent foreign nationals in the U.S. on B-1 business-visitor visas from competing with U.S. truckers on loads moving point to point in the U.S. The regulations are meant to protect driver jobs in the U.S. trucking industry.
So sure, who needs regulation? How long do you think you'll have a job if your company finds it to be a better economical decision to replace you with drivers from Mexico who work much cheaper. Maybe prices on store products will go down, too.
What am I thinking? Corporations wouldn't do that, would they?
I love my 20 minute power naps. Longer than 20 minutes and I wake up groggy. I’m up at midnight to 1am and I try to be asleep my 5:30 pm. Life happens, someone calls, there’s some household chaos that needs addressed like a broken water line….. 💩 happens. 23+ years as a commercial driver has conditioned me to function on limited sleep and a Power Nap or two if it gets to hard. And yes, I know where my limit is, and I’ve never gone too far. I become miserable when I get that tired. I honestly don’t know how anyone can fall asleep at the wheel. And any company giving me 💩 about stopping for 20 minutes came blow me. Clean driving record with lots of experience…. I have options. If the dot wants me out, I’m sure Pablo would love my job. It is what it is. But I see more accidents now than ever… maybe we need more rules?
Speed up your 1.5xs
Define adversely affected cuz im adversely affected by all regulations because they not only limit my ability to earn money but they also limit the freedoms that other americans have by preventing me from enjoying those same freedoms.
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Nothing will ever be change untill yall defund and desize the gov . 😂 . Expanding the gov is a bad idea. So vote accordingly
Anything that removes some power from the power hungry government is a great idea.
Get the federal government out of our lives I for one would like to live free of te government.
nope….this does nothing…owner / operators that are barely surviving don’t have the money to fight federal agencies in court regardless of this new ruling by the supreme court
Why can't I reply to your live?
Im not sure :( Sometimes youtube does strange things
I can see drivers brimming with glee at the thought of over turning the eld mandate so they can run longer hours. Their pay will go down over time while they run more to make the same equivalence. People are such sheep
Yup. The ELD is meant to save lives and protect us from over working. If there isn't enough freight to go around right now, how will increasing the amount people can work lead to greater earnings? The answer is it won't, it'll lead to less demand for capacity, and worse working conditions.
You will make more money if you’re an owner tho