I am crying the two boys are so young and working so hard .they are just about my grandsons age .how horrible for Jack Phillips family ,his mother my heart goes to her .they are real heroes.
Please make a hero’s video on Lighttoller! He was a fascinating guy!! 2nd officer on the titanic, captain of a patrol/attack boat in WW1, and took part in the civilian evacuation of Dunkirk in WW2!! Fascinating!!!
He actually never sent that “quit jamming” part to the Californian. What he said was actually banter jargon between Marconi operators of the time. The Californian operator actually testified to this at the British inquiry. Bride never sent an angry message. It wasn’t angry. It was joking.
Yesterday was the 85th anniversary since Hindenburg caught fire and crashed. Today is the 107th anniversary since RMS Lusitania was lost. RIP to all those who died in this tragedy.
I wonder if Jack was in a state of shock. The lack of sleep could have exasperated his symptoms. I've seen people in shock before and it's extremely similar to what you're describing. People do funny things when their in dire situations. Some people freeze, some people work through it.
You should do a video on how Harold Cottam’s work saved those lives too! He was just in the process of getting ready for bed when he picked up the Titanic’s distress call and his decision to awaken Captain Arthur Henry Rostron and inform him that the Titanic was in trouble is what got the Carpathia into action to arrive at the Titanic’s sinking location hours before any other ship and rescue the survivors. He was also good friends with Harold Bride and Jack Phillips and I can’t imagine how Cottam and Bride must’ve felt to have been seeing each other again after the tragedy and about how their work is what got the Carpathia into action to save all of those lives. It was also great of Bride to have been working together with Cottam to transmit official messages about the Titanic’s sinking during their journey to New York City, even though he had badly injured his feet in the disaster.
There was a proclaimation about Titanic's survivors made by the public after she sank-"Those who were saved were saved by one man, Mr. Marconi.". However the two men on the spot, Phillips and Bride were instrumental in effectively using Marconi's creation. They especially used great personal initiative by repairing the shorted coil in the wireless the night before against company policy. If this repair wasn't made, the range of the radio on battery power alone would cut the range to 50 miles instead of the 4-500 miles maximum. With the limited 50 mile range they might not have even reached the Carpathia in time.
On the flip side they wouldn’t have been so busy with the backed up messages with cape race and may have been able to logically react to the ice warning from the Californian
@@KingdomHeart556 That's a good point. However, the primary business focus of the novel Marconi wireless was in making money by sending messages for the wealthy passengers, not as a navigational aid. Taking messages to the bridge didn't make any money. It was discovered that years earlier wireless communications were useful to the maritime industry by providing information on relaying weather, hazards, schedules and emergencies as was demonstrated in 1909 with the sinking of the RMS. Republic, another White Star vessel when it's Marconi operator became a hero by summoning help that resulted in everyone surviving the evacuation who weren't killed in the collision. Relaying navigational messages to the bridge in ships at that time was a company courtesy, not the norm. Even if Phillips and Bride weren't backed up with messages, it's doubtful that the ice warning messages would have received any priority by the operators or the Titanic's officers. One of the early critical essages that Captain Smith received he gave to Ismay who then put it in his pocket and it was forgotten about. At the inquiries that followed, Bride testified that he couldn't even remember who the officer was he delivered the last critical ice warning to. It was most likely Second Officer Lightoller because Bride delivered the message earlier in the evening and "Lights", as he was known, was the officer on watch. No one could be certain what the mood or priorities would have been that last evening even if the wireless set had been working normally. I'm sure though, Phillips would have still blown off the Californian's operator Evans when he cut in and almost blesw Phillips' ears off with the report that his ship was stopped by ice nearby even if he wasn't backed up with messages as most people would.
I stumbled across your channel by accident and I'm glad because your a true historian Sam. I'm from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪. I've always been fascinated by the Titanic. I decided to take a trip down to Cobh, Co Cork Ireland last month. This was the last stop for the Titanic, queen's Town as it was named at the time. I urge you come here and sample the atmosphere, there is a neat Titanic exhibition and many land marks. Keep up the great work. Thanks
11:24 those 2 images, I just cannot get over how mighty and majestic this ship was. It's what hooked me all those years ago and it's what keeps me coming back. It might be a perfect visual specimen of a seafaring vessel.
I agree, the Titanic, as well as her sister ships, Olympic and Britannic, were just incredibly beautiful ships, both with their very yacht-like outside appearances and their insanely luxurious interior appointments. It is an absolute shame that the Olympic was not preserved as a museum ship.
In fairness, Jack Philips' response to Californian may have just been how Marconi operators talked to each other. Oceanliner Designs made a video about this: m.th-cam.com/video/CvLWcP_bD4w/w-d-xo.html
As a software engineer it is quite wild to imagine what life must have been like back then for wireless operators. After all given today's general knowledge even their marconi wireless, primitive as it was, could have been used for so much more than just transmitting morse code messages. Kinda insane to think about how far this technology had already advanced just 61 years after the sinking when the first wireless network was established.
Another important tidbit about the wireless system, was that there were no 'channels' or frequencies. Everyone had to basically share a 'party line', transmitting and receiving on the same 'channel'. So you can imagine all these ships all trying to transmit ice warnings, ship to ship and ship to shore communications, personal messages from passengers, etc all over a single shared frequency. It must have been absolutely insane.
I also would like to know what would of happened if the men didn’t fix the radio. Would titanic have lost everyone? When would people realize the ship was missing? What would they have done with no position to report to etc
@@tula1433 They had a secondary radio but it wouldn't reach Cape Cod. The reason they fixed the primary radio was so they could keep sending paid messages. Or as Jack Phillips told Californian "I'm working".
Yeah you are absolutely definitely right first offer Willam McMaster Murdoch he has been my favourite office since I have know about the unsinkable RMS Titanic and it's from 1992 I was only 5 years old and of today I am 35 years old
Wasn’t it the case that the radio operators at the time were a small club who all knew each other and gave each other good natured ribbings? As in he wouldn’t have taken offense to Phillips?
@@ryanfisher4213You can see on videos with channels on what happned that night and which ship titanic contacted and you can see they use the acronym “OM” which stands for Old Man which is basically the early 20th century version of saying “Hey Bro”. I like to use Old Man with my friends who are intrested with ships aswell
14:56 do we know anything about the radio operator on the Californian? It couldn't have been easy coping with that for the rest of your life. Presmuably EVERYONE on Titanic would have survived had he not switched it off?
Big fan . Sub when you had under 5k . Love this page. I got to meet Dr. Robert Ballard back in 1987 . Few years after find the titanic. And there's a titanic historical museum near me. With jj actors wife's life vest . And other artifacts that were not recovered from the wreck
Absolutely astounding job. I love your explanations, it really expands a lot of important details. Such as the extremely loud steam venting, which would have been a huge impediment to communication on the deck.
Bride and Phillips were true ham radio operators; had they not done all that work fixing the radio, who knows how many more lives would’ve been lost that night? I’m not too good at it myself, despite being an amateur radio operator, but my dad (also a ham) is very good at troubleshooting and fixing his radios. Hell, most hams I know are pretty good at doing that too.
If they hadn't bronken the rules and had not fixed the Marconi wireless the day the ship sank, there's a good chance that a lot more if not all the passengers and crew would have died. A reminder of even for back then sea travel could be very dangerous.
I just subscribed to you this morning. I've been enjoying listening to your podcasts all the time lately, especially while I'm at the gym like I am right now, listening to your amazing podcasts, Keep up the good work
Sam, if you want an example of how much of a difference the distance radio transmissions can be heard during the nighttime vs distance heard during the daytime, listen to AM broadcast radio. I live in NC and during the day I can only receive stations in my immediate area. At night, however I can receive AM broadcast stations that are in Atlanta, Pittsburg, and even Albany NY (my hometown). I suspect that the Marconi wireless system was using frequencies in the same range of the frequencies AM broadcast radio uses today
Can you do a video for the people that kept the lights on the titanic because if it wasn’t for them people would’ve not been able to get to the life boats and been a lot more deaths
Centering on an occasional hero, Is a GOOD idea🤔, Sam!!! There's nothing wrong, with creating a certain topic (as long as it's interesting), and keeping it going with periodical, information!!!
Harold Bride Lived With His Uncle, Cousins and Harold Cottom. Bride Would Have Nightmares On and Off For the Rest of his Life sometimes staying up all night Saying “I’m So Sorry Phillips” Bride would also mistake family members as Phillips but Bride would eventually get over the Titanic.
I don’t think Harold Bride really lived with Harold Cottam, but they were friends from their days of training together and were happy enough to have been seeing each other again on the Carpathia and worked together to do all of the great message relaying during their journey to New York City following the disaster and stayed in contact for the rest of their lives.
Or if they had followed the Marconi instructions and not fixed the radio, captain smith would not have got the ice multiple warnings on April 14 which lead him to take a more westerly course hitting the ice berg. Original path titanic was taking was safe. It was too many ice warnings that put her on a deadly collision course. Radio going offline on April 13 might be a godsend to stop the Titanic from hitting the iceberg.
Another thing I've always wondered but this is probably silly: couldn't a boat have attempted to row to the nearby ship and sound the alarm or was this not possible? I assume it was not.
Very interesting vids, thanks for your insight and info! If you're ever looking for vid ideas on less known wrecks, the Lakes Freighter S.S. Carl D. Bradley would be a cool one to see.
What you said at 5:24 was not exactly correct: "The Marconi wireless system also had another use, that wasn't for official purposes. This use was to be used by the Titanic's passengers." Actually that was the MAIN use of the wireless system. Philips and Bride were employees of the Marconi company, they were not employees of the White Star Line company. In the ship's list they were second class passengers. Their MAIN duty was to receive and send the so called "Marconigrams" between the passengers, that's what they were paid to do. The communication between the ships was additional job for them, sometimes ANNOYING additional part of the job. The priority were the messages of the passengers, so any message from and for a ship had to be labelled, to get prioritized. The amazing thing in the story of the Titanic is that there's no main villain, just few people (some of them are considered heroes) made some very small mistakes. They didn't even know that they were doing mistakes, they were doing something pretty usual for them. Something that they've done many times before, without any consequences. But this particular time these small mistakes added up with some misfortune, and that's how the impossible happened: the most advanced, safe, beautiful (and so on) ship in the world sank in her maiden voyage. It's incredible that the main characters in the story were heroes and villains at the same time. They made small mistakes that lead to the collision, and after that they did the best they could do to save as many lives as possible.
I what to thank you I learned a lot from you I always been a titanic fan I been doing a project on it since hi school you really help in lock down you fantastic
The tragedy happened, of course, because the Titanic did not slow down despite the known presence of icebergs ahead. As I understand it, the general thinking by Smith was that they would spot a berg in time to avoid it; which they almost did. However, the lack of moonlight, and of surf against the berg (s) due to the unusually calm ocean, worked against this; but Smith should have taken these factors into consideration, and ordered half-speed until dawn. The question is, would he have slowed down had he received the Californian's final warning? Likey not, but we'll never know.
@19 minutes, you're right. I served in three steam powered ships and those things you say are true. I watched a boiler nearly explode a couple of times. Venting residual steam is a thing that sometimes happens. We say that if it's black smoke, two minutes to correct it or pull fires. White steam is even worse . . . pull fires in one minute.
Yup and then decided to split up which was the last time they saw each other as Jack Phillips died in the tragedy while Harold Bride survived with great difficulty on a lifeboat that wasn’t properly launched.
Much of this video is taken from another same topic covered on another persons channel - even the video excerpts. I’ve seen all the filmed segments on the channel of the person that created it.
Harold Bride’s misfortune continued even though he survived. The men on Collapsible Boat B spent hours balancing themselves in ankle-deep water before they were picked up by another lifeboat. Bride suffered severe frostbite to his feet. He had to be lifted up onto and carried off of The Carpathia.
@@claytonelofgren the story of Collapsible B is featured more prominently in “A Night To Remember”. 2nd Officer Lightoller, Harold Bride, Col. Gracie, Jack Thayer and Chef Charles Joughin are a few famous names who survived on Collasible B.
@@zuitsuit80 very interesting. I’m more curious too what happened with the person from the radio room who survived and also the owner survived what their life looked like afterwards and how much blame they got
@@claytonelofgren With injured feet, 2nd Operator Harold Bride helped The Carpathia’s operator send messages to New York about the sinking and survivors. He married, served in WWI, moved to Glasgow, had 3 children and became a salesman. Died of lung cancer and cremated in 1956. Bruce Ismay (the chairman of White Star)was taken to the Carpathia’s doctor’s cabin and given opiates for his shock. The inquiry cleared him of any wrong doing as he was technically a passenger and not crew. However, the newspapers and the public were not as kind. Ismay resigned White Star in 1913 and retired to Ireland. His family never spoke of Titanic. Diabetes later failed his health swiftly and he died in 1937.
@@claytonelofgren There’s a great book called “The Story of The Titanic”. It’s actually four books in one. Testimonies. Each written by a survivor. 3 of them from Collasible B. Charles Lightoller (2nd Officer) Harold Bride (2nd Wireless Operator) Colonel Gracie (1st Class) Lawrence Beesley (2nd class)
Worsham! Congrats on the subs. That's so awesome and so are your videos. If Jack and Harold hadn't fixed the radio, there would have been No survivors that night. They are heroes. Like the idea of the video you said. Be neat.
There also would’ve been no survivors that night if Jack and Harold’s Carpathia radio operating friend Harold Cottam hadn’t worked later than usual and worn his headphones while in the process of getting ready for bed.
There were several things that led to the fatal outcome…Officers on board told passengers that the ship was fine when in fact it was sinking…People were fearful to get onto the life boats as there was a significant danger in lowering them…people believed that rescue ships would arrive before the ship sank as proven by previous experiences…the port side officer would only let women and children onto the ship while male passengers were led to believe they were more likely to survive if they went to the port side, and pure hubris in thinking that the ship was unsinkable…
Yeah, he badly injured his feet and was so sad Jack Phillips died in the disaster. The most comfort he received after that was from Harold Cottam, the Carpathia’s radio operator whom he was already friends with from his training days.
Hello Sam you are one of my favorites TH-camrs love your videos whatever I want to know something about a ship that sank I turn to you you have videos almost about every ship But I have a question what if the titanic Never sink how would that impact the future hey what would’ve been completely different what can you sync would’ve happened if the titanic never Sink at all how would things completely change I wander
Hey sam, Just wondering if you could do a history episode on the battle of midway, love your history covers, and thanks for the content you produce for us.
Cant remember name of TH-cam channel, but its a great channel like yours. The gist of what he said was that it was common practice to say things like the "keep out keep out, shut up" and this talking shit was a friendly banter that all marconi operators did.. his information came from some book by a Commodore of White Star Line... You always so informed, was curious if you ever heard this information? Seems from this video you have not... I hope its true... it makes that incident seem less bad on Phillips
Congrats on 70k subs. My family and I are going to the Titanic museum in Orlando later this month. Do u have any advice or interesting things to look for?
Here's a what if, what if they had followed protocol and went to the emergency backup. Hear me out, they would not have been too tired from staying up all night trying to fix the radio. That Sunday depending on where they were they would have had time to deliver ice warnings to the bridge since they would not be working cape race. When the Californian radio'd that they had stopped for the night due to ice they would not have dismissed their operator and maybe have even kept him online for awhile. Also they would have had time to relay this message to the bridge.
I believe Jack Phillips was feeling a sense of guilt for not passing those last iceberg warnings to the bridge. I put myself in his shoes and I know that’s how I would have feeling. Must have been a sense of dread and major guilt. I think he was trying incredibly hard to make up for this mistake by trying with everything he had to get as much distress calls out that he could. This was the only thing he had control of at this point. Yes he was probably in a trance type state as well but again I think it was driven from remorse. Quite sad but this one action of had he DID deliver those warnings to the captain, surely this could have changed the course of history as we know it.
I agree to disagree, I think they were contributing factors, both towards the disaster, and to saving lives. What I mean by that is that during the inquiries, Marconi said the compensation for operators started at $4 to $10 to $12 US per week with board and lodging. And then they were paid 12s. 6d for ten word messages, and 9d for each additional word. And Phillips was working on 200+ back-logged messages, that's 12s, 6d times 200 = Enough of a monetary reason not just for Phillips & Bride to fix the Primary radio, but enough of a monetary reason for Phillips to politely tell Evans to take a hike. Which he did, and even added "I'm working". As for the whole "MSG" affair, the argument pretty much goes by standard that a message not affixed "MSG" = Invalid. Alright, but a standard applies to all or none. Here's what Phillips told Cottam on Carpathia: 'Come at once it's CQD, OM. Position 41'46N, 50'14W'. 'Shall I tell my Captain ? Do you require assistance?' " That looks like Phillips didn't affix "MSG" or even SOS (established years before) for that matter, if so, it's not a distress call. Because if it was, Cottam would have instantly replied "I've got ya OM". By the standard accorded Phillips, Cottam was well within his rights to tell Phillips to stuff it, but he didn't. It had nothing to do with whether or not Evans's warning was affixed "MSG". And that's not the only ice message that didn't make it to the bridge, and yet none of those who sent those warnings (which basically should have told Phillips they were steaming into an ice field) were blasted during the inquiries, except Evans. The reason Bride wanted to relieve Phillips earlier on, was for monetary reasons. The reason Phillips frantically stayed on and literally spammed the net was due to guilt, but that's not to say he didn't perform admirably given the circumstances. As such, IMO (subject to change of course) they weren't heroes as much as contributing factors (of which there were a great many), both to the sinking, and to saving lives.
I agree. I sort of feel Phillips must have felt at least a bit guilty to not passing the iceberg messages. He probably felt responsible to some degree and was doing everything he could to make up for it. Either way, so tragic
@@TammyM36 we dont know if he passed them or not. Lightoller said he never got the last warning and Bride stood up for Phillips and accusued Lightoller of making stuff up to save face. We will probably never know what really happened.
Yeah, sure. They save 700 lives. But they also killed over 1,500. Don’t exactly balance out, does it. If they would have taken the Californian seriously and reported the ice field warning to the bridge instead of telling the Californian to ‘shut up’ then perhaps the wreck wouldn’t have happened.
No. The same exact subject was covered elsewhere with the same filmed excerpts on the Titanic by that guy that is involved in making the Titanic game (forget his name but heyhas his own channel and is actually plays one of the characters in the recreations).
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I am crying the two boys are so young and working so hard .they are just about my grandsons age .how horrible for Jack Phillips family ,his mother my heart goes to her .they are real heroes.
Please make a hero’s video on Lighttoller! He was a fascinating guy!!
2nd officer on the titanic, captain of a patrol/attack boat in WW1, and took part in the civilian evacuation of Dunkirk in WW2!!
Fascinating!!!
He actually never sent that “quit jamming” part to the Californian. What he said was actually banter jargon between Marconi operators of the time. The Californian operator actually testified to this at the British inquiry.
Bride never sent an angry message. It wasn’t angry. It was joking.
You watched ocean liner designs
Yesterday was the 85th anniversary since Hindenburg caught fire and crashed.
Today is the 107th anniversary since RMS Lusitania was lost.
RIP to all those who died in this tragedy.
These guys helped save so many lives at the risk of their own
And one of them survived, but with great difficulty and ended up with badly injured feet.
I wonder if Jack was in a state of shock. The lack of sleep could have exasperated his symptoms.
I've seen people in shock before and it's extremely similar to what you're describing. People do funny things when their in dire situations. Some people freeze, some people work through it.
You should do a video on how Harold Cottam’s work saved those lives too! He was just in the process of getting ready for bed when he picked up the Titanic’s distress call
and his decision to awaken Captain Arthur Henry Rostron and inform him that the Titanic was in trouble is what got the Carpathia into action to arrive at the Titanic’s sinking location hours before any other ship and rescue the survivors. He was also good friends with Harold Bride and Jack Phillips and I can’t imagine how Cottam and Bride must’ve felt to have been seeing each other again after the tragedy and about how their work is what got the Carpathia into action to save all of those lives. It was also great of Bride to have been working together with Cottam to transmit official messages about the Titanic’s sinking during their journey to New York City, even though he had badly injured his feet in the disaster.
There was a proclaimation about Titanic's survivors made by the public after she sank-"Those who were saved were saved by one man, Mr. Marconi.". However the two men on the spot, Phillips and Bride were instrumental in effectively using Marconi's creation. They especially used great personal initiative by repairing the shorted coil in the wireless the night before against company policy. If this repair wasn't made, the range of the radio on battery power alone would cut the range to 50 miles instead of the 4-500 miles maximum. With the limited 50 mile range they might not have even reached the Carpathia in time.
On the flip side they wouldn’t have been so busy with the backed up messages with cape race and may have been able to logically react to the ice warning from the Californian
@@KingdomHeart556 That's a good point. However, the primary business focus of the novel Marconi wireless was in making money by sending messages for the wealthy passengers, not as a navigational aid. Taking messages to the bridge didn't make any money. It was discovered that years earlier wireless communications were useful to the maritime industry by providing information on relaying weather, hazards, schedules and emergencies as was demonstrated in 1909 with the sinking of the RMS. Republic, another White Star vessel when it's Marconi operator became a hero by summoning help that resulted in everyone surviving the evacuation who weren't killed in the collision. Relaying navigational messages to the bridge in ships at that time was a company courtesy, not the norm. Even if Phillips and Bride weren't backed up with messages, it's doubtful that the ice warning messages would have received any priority by the operators or the Titanic's officers. One of the early critical essages that Captain Smith received he gave to Ismay who then put it in his pocket and it was forgotten about. At the inquiries that followed, Bride testified that he couldn't even remember who the officer was he delivered the last critical ice warning to. It was most likely Second Officer Lightoller because Bride delivered the message earlier in the evening and "Lights", as he was known, was the officer on watch. No one could be certain what the mood or priorities would have been that last evening even if the wireless set had been working normally. I'm sure though, Phillips would have still blown off the Californian's operator Evans when he cut in and almost blesw Phillips' ears off with the report that his ship was stopped by ice nearby even if he wasn't backed up with messages as most people would.
I stumbled across your channel by accident and I'm glad because your a true historian Sam. I'm from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪. I've always been fascinated by the Titanic. I decided to take a trip down to Cobh, Co Cork Ireland last month. This was the last stop for the Titanic, queen's Town as it was named at the time. I urge you come here and sample the atmosphere, there is a neat Titanic exhibition and many land marks. Keep up the great work. Thanks
Phillips was too young to die 😢
(25 years old)
11:24 those 2 images, I just cannot get over how mighty and majestic this ship was. It's what hooked me all those years ago and it's what keeps me coming back. It might be a perfect visual specimen of a seafaring vessel.
I agree, the Titanic, as well as her sister ships, Olympic and Britannic, were just incredibly beautiful ships, both with their very yacht-like outside appearances and their insanely luxurious interior appointments. It is an absolute shame that the Olympic was not preserved as a museum ship.
In fairness, Jack Philips' response to Californian may have just been how Marconi operators talked to each other. Oceanliner Designs made a video about this:
m.th-cam.com/video/CvLWcP_bD4w/w-d-xo.html
As a software engineer it is quite wild to imagine what life must have been like back then for wireless operators. After all given today's general knowledge even their marconi wireless, primitive as it was, could have been used for so much more than just transmitting morse code messages. Kinda insane to think about how far this technology had already advanced just 61 years after the sinking when the first wireless network was established.
Another important tidbit about the wireless system, was that there were no 'channels' or frequencies. Everyone had to basically share a 'party line', transmitting and receiving on the same 'channel'. So you can imagine all these ships all trying to transmit ice warnings, ship to ship and ship to shore communications, personal messages from passengers, etc all over a single shared frequency. It must have been absolutely insane.
Great point
I also would like to know what would of happened if the men didn’t fix the radio. Would titanic have lost everyone? When would people realize the ship was missing? What would they have done with no position to report to etc
@@tula1433 They had a secondary radio but it wouldn't reach Cape Cod.
The reason they fixed the primary radio was so they could keep sending paid messages.
Or as Jack Phillips told Californian "I'm working".
Thank you so much for teaching us this amazing stuff about the Titanic and other ships! You're the best
all these details can make a new titanic movie. your a great story teller. this is the best youtube video i seen from along time.
Congrats for 70k subs! You absolutely deserve this, you doing amazing job! Also, I'd love a video about Murdoch, he's my favourite Titanic officer
Murdoch*
@@PlanesGamingReactions Right, sorry, have dyslexia
Yeah you are absolutely definitely right first offer Willam McMaster Murdoch he has been my favourite office since I have know about the unsinkable RMS Titanic and it's from 1992 I was only 5 years old and of today I am 35 years old
I think Phillips had a tremendous amount of guilt which contributed to his breakdown even when the wireless was clearly not working anymore
I share the same opinion.
I think so too. He never heard from the Californian again and he wondered what would have happened if he hadn't blown off the Californian's operator.
Wasn’t it the case that the radio operators at the time were a small club who all knew each other and gave each other good natured ribbings? As in he wouldn’t have taken offense to Phillips?
@@ryanfisher4213true
@@ryanfisher4213You can see on videos with channels on what happned that night and which ship titanic contacted and you can see they use the acronym “OM” which stands for Old Man which is basically the early 20th century version of saying “Hey Bro”. I like to use Old Man with my friends who are intrested with ships aswell
Amazing video man! Congratulations on 70k+ subs! 🎉
14:56 do we know anything about the radio operator on the Californian? It couldn't have been easy coping with that for the rest of your life. Presmuably EVERYONE on Titanic would have survived had he not switched it off?
I didn’t believe he would even get to 100k subs. He probably will. He deserves WAY more subs.
Big fan . Sub when you had under 5k . Love this page. I got to meet Dr. Robert Ballard back in 1987 . Few years after find the titanic. And there's a titanic historical museum near me. With jj actors wife's life vest . And other artifacts that were not recovered from the wreck
Absolutely astounding job. I love your explanations, it really expands a lot of important details. Such as the extremely loud steam venting, which would have been a huge impediment to communication on the deck.
You should do a video on all the ships that were near the Titanic the night of the sinking
Bride and Phillips were true ham radio operators; had they not done all that work fixing the radio, who knows how many more lives would’ve been lost that night? I’m not too good at it myself, despite being an amateur radio operator, but my dad (also a ham) is very good at troubleshooting and fixing his radios. Hell, most hams I know are pretty good at doing that too.
If they hadn't bronken the rules and had not fixed the Marconi wireless the day the ship sank, there's a good chance that a lot more if not all the passengers and crew would have died. A reminder of even for back then sea travel could be very dangerous.
I just subscribed to you this morning. I've been enjoying listening to your podcasts all the time lately, especially while I'm at the gym like I am right now, listening to your amazing podcasts, Keep up the good work
God bless them both - a couple of true heroes.
I would love for this series to keep going !!
Thank you Sam, another great educational video.
Sam, if you want an example of how much of a difference the distance radio transmissions can be heard during the nighttime vs distance heard during the daytime, listen to AM broadcast radio. I live in NC and during the day I can only receive stations in my immediate area. At night, however I can receive AM broadcast stations that are in Atlanta, Pittsburg, and even Albany NY (my hometown). I suspect that the Marconi wireless system was using frequencies in the same range of the frequencies AM broadcast radio uses today
Can you do a video for the people that kept the lights on the titanic because if it wasn’t for them people would’ve not been able to get to the life boats and been a lot more deaths
Centering on an occasional hero, Is a GOOD idea🤔, Sam!!! There's nothing wrong, with creating a certain topic (as long as it's interesting), and keeping it going with periodical, information!!!
You have a great, interesting, educational channel. Keep up the good work.
Harold Bride Lived With His Uncle, Cousins and Harold Cottom. Bride Would Have Nightmares On and Off For the Rest of his Life sometimes staying up all night Saying “I’m So Sorry Phillips” Bride would also mistake family members as Phillips but Bride would eventually get over the Titanic.
That’s actually so sad :(
I don’t think Harold Bride really lived with Harold Cottam, but they were friends from their days of training together and were happy enough to have been seeing each other again on the Carpathia and worked together to do all of the great message relaying during their journey to New York City following the disaster and stayed in contact for the rest of their lives.
Or if they had followed the Marconi instructions and not fixed the radio, captain smith would not have got the ice multiple warnings on April 14 which lead him to take a more westerly course hitting the ice berg. Original path titanic was taking was safe. It was too many ice warnings that put her on a deadly collision course. Radio going offline on April 13 might be a godsend to stop the Titanic from hitting the iceberg.
Another thing I've always wondered but this is probably silly: couldn't a boat have attempted to row to the nearby ship and sound the alarm or was this not possible? I assume it was not.
This video is one of my favourites,because I watched The Last Signals way to many times
Very interesting vids, thanks for your insight and info! If you're ever looking for vid ideas on less known wrecks, the Lakes Freighter S.S. Carl D. Bradley would be a cool one to see.
Please can u do a video on titanic second officer Lightoller?
What you said at 5:24 was not exactly correct: "The Marconi wireless system also had another use, that wasn't for official purposes.
This use was to be used by the Titanic's passengers."
Actually that was the MAIN use of the wireless system.
Philips and Bride were employees of the Marconi company, they were not employees of the White Star Line company. In the ship's list they were second class passengers.
Their MAIN duty was to receive and send the so called "Marconigrams" between the passengers, that's what they were paid to do.
The communication between the ships was additional job for them, sometimes ANNOYING additional part of the job.
The priority were the messages of the passengers, so any message from and for a ship had to be labelled, to get prioritized.
The amazing thing in the story of the Titanic is that there's no main villain, just few people (some of them are considered heroes) made some very small mistakes. They didn't even know that they were doing mistakes, they were doing something pretty usual for them. Something that they've done many times before, without any consequences. But this particular time these small mistakes added up with some misfortune, and that's how the impossible happened: the most advanced, safe, beautiful (and so on) ship in the world sank in her maiden voyage.
It's incredible that the main characters in the story were heroes and villains at the same time. They made small mistakes that lead to the collision, and after that they did the best they could do to save as many lives as possible.
Congrats on 70K.
The man who tried to steal the life jacket probably saved Harold Brides life without even knowing it.
I what to thank you I learned a lot from you I always been a titanic fan I been doing a project on it since hi school you really help in lock down you fantastic
This was actually very very informative well done video
Great job sam 👍
The tragedy happened, of course, because the Titanic did not slow down despite the known presence of icebergs ahead. As I understand it, the general thinking by Smith was that they would spot a berg in time to avoid it; which they almost did. However, the lack of moonlight, and of surf against the berg (s) due to the unusually calm ocean, worked against this; but Smith should have taken these factors into consideration, and ordered half-speed until dawn. The question is, would he have slowed down had he received the Californian's final warning? Likey not, but we'll never know.
@19 minutes, you're right. I served in three steam powered ships and those things you say are true. I watched a boiler nearly explode a couple of times. Venting residual steam is a thing that sometimes happens. We say that if it's black smoke, two minutes to correct it or pull fires. White steam is even worse . . . pull fires in one minute.
I think doing heros in history is a great idea!
Jack Phillips and Harold Bride left the Marconi Wireless Room at 2:07 am.
Yup and then decided to split up which was the last time they saw each other as Jack Phillips died in the tragedy while Harold Bride survived with great difficulty on a lifeboat that wasn’t properly launched.
That feeling when Sam does a regular upload, but not a premiere...
something isn't right here
Much of this video is taken from another same topic covered on another persons channel - even the video excerpts. I’ve seen all the filmed segments on the channel of the person that created it.
@@xr6lad link?
Sam just started watching. You're a star 🌟
Another great vid sam
It’s the 107th anniversary of the Lusitania
Harold Bride’s misfortune continued even though he survived. The men on Collapsible Boat B spent hours balancing themselves in ankle-deep water before they were picked up by another lifeboat. Bride suffered severe frostbite to his feet. He had to be lifted up onto and carried off of The Carpathia.
I didn’t know that. Collapsible B is interesting they pulled that off it is shown some in the movie
@@claytonelofgren the story of Collapsible B is featured more prominently in “A Night To Remember”. 2nd Officer Lightoller, Harold Bride, Col. Gracie, Jack Thayer and Chef Charles Joughin are a few famous names who survived on Collasible B.
@@zuitsuit80 very interesting. I’m more curious too what happened with the person from the radio room who survived and also the owner survived what their life looked like afterwards and how much blame they got
@@claytonelofgren With injured feet, 2nd Operator Harold Bride helped The Carpathia’s operator send messages to New York about the sinking and survivors.
He married, served in WWI, moved to Glasgow, had 3 children and became a salesman. Died of lung cancer and cremated in 1956.
Bruce Ismay (the chairman of White Star)was taken to the Carpathia’s doctor’s cabin and given opiates for his shock. The inquiry cleared him of any wrong doing as he was technically a passenger and not crew. However, the newspapers and the public were not as kind. Ismay resigned White Star in 1913 and retired to Ireland. His family never spoke of Titanic. Diabetes later failed his health swiftly and he died in 1937.
@@claytonelofgren There’s a great book called “The Story of The Titanic”. It’s actually four books in one. Testimonies. Each written by a survivor. 3 of them from Collasible B.
Charles Lightoller (2nd Officer)
Harold Bride (2nd Wireless Operator)
Colonel Gracie (1st Class)
Lawrence Beesley (2nd class)
Worsham! Congrats on the subs. That's so awesome and so are your videos. If Jack and Harold hadn't fixed the radio, there would have been No survivors that night. They are heroes. Like the idea of the video you said. Be neat.
There also would’ve been no survivors that night if Jack and Harold’s Carpathia radio operating friend Harold Cottam hadn’t worked later than usual and worn his headphones while in the process of getting ready for bed.
Yes, keep this series going! Love it
I love you’re content so much :) thanks for the amazing videos
could you do what if captain didn't shut down the engines/propellers?
Congrats on 70,000+
Fun fact: the cover was from I survived the sinking of titanic.. Loved the book.
Sun up, freq up! Sun down, freq down! And HF range and lower extends a LOT at night.
There were several things that led to the fatal outcome…Officers on board told passengers that the ship was fine when in fact it was sinking…People were fearful to get onto the life boats as there was a significant danger in lowering them…people believed that rescue ships would arrive before the ship sank as proven by previous experiences…the port side officer would only let women and children onto the ship while male passengers were led to believe they were more likely to survive if they went to the port side, and pure hubris in thinking that the ship was unsinkable…
I felt really bad for Harold Bride, given everything he went through the night of the sinking.
Yeah, he badly injured his feet and was so sad Jack Phillips died in the disaster. The most comfort he received after that was from Harold Cottam, the Carpathia’s radio operator whom he was already friends with from his training days.
I love the idea
Hello Sam you are one of my favorites TH-camrs love your videos whatever I want to know something about a ship that sank I turn to you you have videos almost about every ship But I have a question what if the titanic Never sink how would that impact the future hey what would’ve been completely different what can you sync would’ve happened if the titanic never Sink at all how would things completely change I wander
Love this great job
Hey sam, Just wondering if you could do a history episode on the battle of midway, love your history covers, and thanks for the content you produce for us.
Cant remember name of TH-cam channel, but its a great channel like yours. The gist of what he said was that it was common practice to say things like the "keep out keep out, shut up" and this talking shit was a friendly banter that all marconi operators did.. his information came from some book by a Commodore of White Star Line...
You always so informed, was curious if you ever heard this information? Seems from this video you have not...
I hope its true... it makes that incident seem less bad on Phillips
Congrats on 70k subs. My family and I are going to the Titanic museum in Orlando later this month. Do u have any advice or interesting things to look for?
19:05 Woow! I did Not know Modern Ships run on "GAS" 🤣🤣 I knoow I knoow, You meant Gasoline hahaha 👍 But its still funny
Here's a what if, what if they had followed protocol and went to the emergency backup.
Hear me out, they would not have been too tired from staying up all night trying to fix the radio. That Sunday depending on where they were they would have had time to deliver ice warnings to the bridge since they would not be working cape race.
When the Californian radio'd that they had stopped for the night due to ice they would not have dismissed their operator and maybe have even kept him online for awhile. Also they would have had time to relay this message to the bridge.
The captain already knew about the ice field earlier in the day. The captain was confident he avoided the ice field and that's why they continued on.
it's a wonderful tribute to RMS Carpathia could you do a documentary on Chief Officer Wilde?
thx for your work
I believe Jack Phillips was feeling a sense of guilt for not passing those last iceberg warnings to the bridge. I put myself in his shoes and I know that’s how I would have feeling. Must have been a sense of dread and major guilt. I think he was trying incredibly hard to make up for this mistake by trying with everything he had to get as much distress calls out that he could. This was the only thing he had control of at this point. Yes he was probably in a trance type state as well but again I think it was driven from remorse. Quite sad but this one action of had he DID deliver those warnings to the captain, surely this could have changed the course of history as we know it.
Sam do you think if all of Titanics pumps were moved into the 5th compartment she would of been able to stay afloat ?
Take two doors off of their hinges. Tie the two together and get away fast. Kinda like the guy who tied the deck chairs together.
Would love to see a video about White White Star's SS Naonic and what you believe the chances are of it being found one day!
GREAT .thank,s
Your two stories on the altercation totally contradict each other!
Great video
great story telling! gj
Sweet. Keep it up!!!
8:54 when not following directions saved lifes
Can you make Sinking of Carpathia
Yay well done Sam! ❤️
congrats man!
I agree to disagree, I think they were contributing factors, both towards the disaster, and to saving lives.
What I mean by that is that during the inquiries, Marconi said the compensation for operators started at $4 to $10 to $12 US per week with board and lodging.
And then they were paid 12s. 6d for ten word messages, and 9d for each additional word.
And Phillips was working on 200+ back-logged messages, that's 12s, 6d times 200 = Enough of a monetary reason not just for Phillips & Bride to fix the Primary radio, but enough of a monetary reason for Phillips to politely tell Evans to take a hike.
Which he did, and even added "I'm working".
As for the whole "MSG" affair, the argument pretty much goes by standard that a message not affixed "MSG" = Invalid.
Alright, but a standard applies to all or none.
Here's what Phillips told Cottam on Carpathia: 'Come at once it's CQD, OM. Position 41'46N, 50'14W'.
'Shall I tell my Captain ? Do you require assistance?' "
That looks like Phillips didn't affix "MSG" or even SOS (established years before) for that matter, if so, it's not a distress call.
Because if it was, Cottam would have instantly replied "I've got ya OM".
By the standard accorded Phillips, Cottam was well within his rights to tell Phillips to stuff it, but he didn't.
It had nothing to do with whether or not Evans's warning was affixed "MSG".
And that's not the only ice message that didn't make it to the bridge, and yet none of those who sent those warnings (which basically should have told Phillips they were steaming into an ice field) were blasted during the inquiries, except Evans.
The reason Bride wanted to relieve Phillips earlier on, was for monetary reasons.
The reason Phillips frantically stayed on and literally spammed the net was due to guilt, but that's not to say he didn't perform admirably given the circumstances.
As such, IMO (subject to change of course) they weren't heroes as much as contributing factors (of which there were a great many), both to the sinking, and to saving lives.
I agree. I sort of feel Phillips must have felt at least a bit guilty to not passing the iceberg messages. He probably felt responsible to some degree and was doing everything he could to make up for it. Either way, so tragic
@@TammyM36 we dont know if he passed them or not. Lightoller said he never got the last warning and Bride stood up for Phillips and accusued Lightoller of making stuff up to save face. We will probably never know what really happened.
Looks like the mast on the model behind you is in tention and looks like its either gonna snap or deform
"Unlike ships today which run on fuel".
Yeah, sure. They save 700 lives. But they also killed over 1,500. Don’t exactly balance out, does it.
If they would have taken the Californian seriously and reported the ice field warning to the bridge instead of telling the Californian to ‘shut up’ then perhaps the wreck wouldn’t have happened.
Imagine if they had to relay steamy messages to lovers back home. 'thinking of you. Stop. I'm not wearing a corset. Stop.
Is your thumbnail the book cover from “I Survived The Sinking Of The Titanic 1912”?
Great idea u always hear bout the great titanic but never the men made it possible for wat survivors did survive was able too
Do I have a dejavu or is this the second upload of that same video here? 🤔
No. The same exact subject was covered elsewhere with the same filmed excerpts on the Titanic by that guy that is involved in making the Titanic game (forget his name but heyhas his own channel and is actually plays one of the characters in the recreations).
:48 and if it weren't for YOU, we wouldn't be here.
Have you made a video about tge mystery if Harold and Jack killed a stoker who try to steel their life vest just like in the Night To Remember?
10:33 you mean 13th right?
Dear Sam, I have a what if question.
What if - collapsible B fell from officers quarters to boat deck NOT upside down
It would have crushed harold bride
I imagine its fate would’ve been the same as the fate of Collapsible A.
HI SAM I SAW ANOTHER VIDEO ON THESE TWO HEROS!!! IT WAS WHEN THE TITANIC WAS SINKING.. ONE OF THEM DIED .. PEACE!! SAM..