Unfortunately, I don't have platinum preppy in my collection :( I have heard their fine nibs, but everytime it has been out of stock, when I'm ordering fountain pen stuff.
If you want to, you can buy the Platinum Plaisir and swap nib with the Preppy. I've done it myself on all my Plaisirs. Except one, in that I have the fiber nib.
agreed. this is a ridiculous trend just like everythign related to fountain pens. idk why they have this idea nowadays all fp should be extra "wet" (inky), broad, oversized and overpriced "luxury item", when it's just a pen.... EF 70 years ago in the west was more like what they still call ef in the east than what we see today.
You nailed it re. Lamy. I bought a Ef pen from them and it wrote like a medium. Last Lamy pen I’ll ever purchase. Pilot and Faber Castell make true ef pens
I use a Pilot Pluminix with an extra fine nib it's a hairline thin writer. It also writes upside down its so fine on Tomoe river paper you need a magnifying glass to read it! Tomoe or Clairfontaine paper is best for extra fine nibs.
Great comparison! I too love EF nibs and use only carbon black ink in all my fountain pens. The preppy 02 has also a great EF nib, it writes even smaller than my Falcon Elabo SEF. You got me interested in the Pilot Kakuno, so I just ordered a Pilot 78G EF ! (which is supposed to have the same nib).
My guess is that the unknown Chinese pen is a You Ping. It looks like one I have and I think the sticker said You Ping before I removed it and threw it away. I probably should have kept the sticker for identification purposes. I have yet to ink and try it.
Hi Cyan, thanks for this video very interesting as I too like EF nibs. Have you tried the Platinum Preppy EF nib 0.2 ? it is the finest nib I've come across.
It's a really great nib, but Pilot uses it on their a little more expensive pens too. The price of the Preppy ist just so low because of the cheap body, not the nib.
Only platinum I have is #3776 century with UEF nib. I don't have any preppys, but I have heard they have good nibs. Also platinum desk pen has extra fine nib that is really fine.
I had two preppys, but one of them broke in the middle. The nibs are great, but the body isn't. I use the one I have left for inks, that I want to use, but don't use constantly in a pen or not that much.
Yeah, it would be more accurate that way. But it would have take me months to prep for video, so that all pens would have black ink. And probably I would have run out of black ink at that point :D piston fillers takes forever to be empty and they also fill quite much of ink. Like my twsbi eco have had same fill over 6 months now.
I'm surprised this video didn't have a Preppy nor an Olika. They are well know pens to be good in EF. I love Preppy, it's my favorite. But I haven't tried Olika yet.
I don't have Lamy 2000, but I would say pilot F. Lamys EF are thick and there it lot of variance between them. Pilot makes consistent nibs and their F is really fine already.
HI, i am seeking a fountain pen that can handle Spencerian or ornate calligraphy, particularly one whose feed can keep up with large gestural movements and embellishments. The nib i am seeking is a pointed one not a broad edge like the Lamy Joy. I have tried TWSBI ECO, Noodler's Ahab(terrible pen), Pilot Prera, Monteverde Artista Crystal Fountain Pen, but nothing seems to nib able to keep up in the same way that an actual dip pointed pen will. Any recommendations, the cheaper the better. i just need to see if there is a tool that can keep up without having the expense of buying and trying.
That is really hard to find. Closes that comes to my mind is pilot falcon with spencerian modification (out of box it does not have enough variation). Or vintage flex. But they are not cheap options. Usually flex nibs are special and that makes them expensive. There is even some pens that have dip pen nib in fountain pen, but those tend to not work well. (Flow issues). Custom nibs could be option as well, but those are really pricey. I'm sorry that I haven't any solid suggestions for you.
@@CyaneInkArt thanks for the response. Joyed the video one thing that you may also wish to discuss with the fountain pens is it’s usage with various inks and papers. It’s a significant issue for calligraphers so may also be for fountainp en users
Yes, it is Lamy original nib. Don't worry about your pen being fake, I tested several Lamy EF nibs at their flagship store and some of them where so wide! There is pretty large inconsistency in Lamy EF nibs. Some are more like F nibs.
@@CyaneInkArt very sad :( i normally write with very very fine pens and now that i tried to shift to fountain pens i found my first one being larger and its really unconfortable on the other hand my 2 euro fountain pen write finer :facepalm: Where can i fine a real EF (0.2 or 0.3 dont remeber) nib for my Lamy safary?
Hi Benwick, Welcome to the fountain pen community. I would suggest a FABER CASTELL LOOM EF Nib, Pilot PENMANSHIP EF Nib, Platinum Plaisir EF Nib, and Online EF Nib. Western Europe Jowo, Bock nib makers EF Nib write like a F nib (0.4 mm line width). Pilot /Platinum F nibs writes (0.4mm line width ) and EF Nibs writes (0.3 mm line width). But keep in mind that since the nib is so thin, the feedback /feel on the writing experience might be too tactile on paper where you know you are writing on Paper. Platinum ultra extra fine nibs have line width of (0.2 mm) in their Preppy / Prefonte models. But Platinum is famous for a hint of tactile feedback but not scratchy. Montegrappa EF Nib writes really smooth and thin like a Japanese EF Nib but then you are spending 180 US dollars or more. If you don't mind spending 150-250 US dollars, you can get pilot EF Nibs with smooth gold nibs with really thin lines. Be safe and well during the pandemic
It's a bit of a shame - I'm just watching the video but can't quite make out what's being said. The sound volume is a bit too soft for my hearing, I'm afraid. Had to stop at 2:49 as I can't get anything out of this video, unfortunately. Perhaps you could take the volume setting into consideration in your future vids? Thanks.
@@kindface that’s strange. I have nice audio even when the volume on my device is at mid-range. So this video has perfect volume levels. I wonder what’s happening on your device. I hope you find out what the problem is.
@Kindface I have hearing loss and have to turn up the volume on some videos, but the volume in this video is fine. Maybe there's an option in your settings menu that will enable you to increase your volume.
Platinum Preppy .20 is my finest nib pen’ and it is quite fine and cheap
Unfortunately, I don't have platinum preppy in my collection :( I have heard their fine nibs, but everytime it has been out of stock, when I'm ordering fountain pen stuff.
If you want to, you can buy the Platinum Plaisir and swap nib with the Preppy. I've done it myself on all my Plaisirs. Except one, in that I have the fiber nib.
The preppy is great. Want a dressy version the plaisiar has a metal body, and the nibs are interchangable
Western EF nibs are not EF but at best M. Sailor has amazing EF and F nibs, but it is a very expensive brand.
agreed. this is a ridiculous trend just like everythign related to fountain pens. idk why they have this idea nowadays all fp should be extra "wet" (inky), broad, oversized and overpriced "luxury item", when it's just a pen.... EF 70 years ago in the west was more like what they still call ef in the east than what we see today.
Thank you. Im going to start with a cheap-ish one to see if we bond 😁 (I really love your natural looking nails👍🏻.)
You nailed it re. Lamy. I bought a Ef pen from them and it wrote like a medium. Last Lamy pen I’ll ever purchase. Pilot and Faber Castell make true ef pens
Yeah, Lamy EF is a joke.
lamy alltogheteher is a joke. is like the apple of pens, they just sell marketing and branding. the nibs feel like a 1$ chinese pen
I use a Pilot Pluminix with an extra fine nib it's a hairline thin writer.
It also writes upside down its so fine on Tomoe river paper you need a magnifying glass to read it!
Tomoe or Clairfontaine paper is best for extra fine nibs.
Only fountain pen paper I have is Rhodia, it is easier to get in europe. But I hope I can get my hands on Clairefontaine and Tomoe.
@@CyaneInkArt Rhodia is good. Made by the same company as Clairfontaine.
Platinum M nibs are finer than most of Lamy Safari EF.
Nice video, left you a big like, i had used lots of fountain pens, they are really good for writing
Great comparison! I too love EF nibs and use only carbon black ink in all my fountain pens.
The preppy 02 has also a great EF nib, it writes even smaller than my Falcon Elabo SEF.
You got me interested in the Pilot Kakuno, so I just ordered a Pilot 78G EF ! (which is supposed to have the same nib).
Thanks! I hope you enjoy your 78G!
@@CyaneInkArt yay! I received it last week! Awesome nib. Great writing experience. I love it 😊
The 78G+ EF with Platinum Carbon Black is what I use to draw. I love it to bits.
@@louizelimepips3517 Yay! i received it, and inked it with Carbon black, I love it too! such a cool little pen.
thanks for demonstrating the extra fine pilot kakuno! now i know it's exactly what i was looking for
My guess is that the unknown Chinese pen is a You Ping. It looks like one I have and I think the sticker said You Ping before I removed it and threw it away. I probably should have kept the sticker for identification purposes. I have yet to ink and try it.
It might be! I think this had sticker as well when I got it.
Thankyou I found similar results with diff brands especially lamy
You should try Platinum’s 3776 Century with UEF nib (ultra extra fine) :D I love them.
I have it! It has awesome nib!
@@CyaneInkArt Do all nibs fit on all feeds?
Hi Cyan, thanks for this video very interesting as I too like EF nibs. Have you tried the Platinum Preppy EF nib 0.2 ? it is the finest nib I've come across.
It's a really great nib, but Pilot uses it on their a little more expensive pens too. The price of the Preppy ist just so low because of the cheap body, not the nib.
Only platinum I have is #3776 century with UEF nib. I don't have any preppys, but I have heard they have good nibs. Also platinum desk pen has extra fine nib that is really fine.
I had two preppys, but one of them broke in the middle. The nibs are great, but the body isn't. I use the one I have left for inks, that I want to use, but don't use constantly in a pen or not that much.
I consider preppy to be disposable refillable fountain pen. I'm always worried that they would break in my pencil case and make huge ink mess.
They're not that fragile. But you're right, they don't hold up to much.
Great idea for this video. Just a nitpick, for a more visually fair comparison, all the inks should be black :)
Yeah, it would be more accurate that way. But it would have take me months to prep for video, so that all pens would have black ink. And probably I would have run out of black ink at that point :D piston fillers takes forever to be empty and they also fill quite much of ink. Like my twsbi eco have had same fill over 6 months now.
I'm surprised this video didn't have a Preppy nor an Olika. They are well know pens to be good in EF. I love Preppy, it's my favorite. But I haven't tried Olika yet.
I have never hears of Olika, I need to check that! Preppy was excluded, since I don't like the design
Have you tried Platinum 3776 with UEF (Ultra Extra Fine) nib??
@@liselottefrejdig1112 Yes, I have it 😁 it is much finer than my japanese extra fines, but also drier.
Great video, thanks!
Super helpful. Thanks so much!
If you know would you tell to be which one thinnest between Pilot Custom 74 F and lamy2000Ef?
I don't have Lamy 2000, but I would say pilot F. Lamys EF are thick and there it lot of variance between them. Pilot makes consistent nibs and their F is really fine already.
HI, i am seeking a fountain pen that can handle Spencerian or ornate calligraphy, particularly one whose feed can keep up with large gestural movements and embellishments. The nib i am seeking is a pointed one not a broad edge like the Lamy Joy. I have tried TWSBI ECO, Noodler's Ahab(terrible pen), Pilot Prera, Monteverde Artista Crystal Fountain Pen, but nothing seems to nib able to keep up in the same way that an actual dip pointed pen will. Any recommendations, the cheaper the better. i just need to see if there is a tool that can keep up without having the expense of buying and trying.
That is really hard to find. Closes that comes to my mind is pilot falcon with spencerian modification (out of box it does not have enough variation). Or vintage flex. But they are not cheap options. Usually flex nibs are special and that makes them expensive. There is even some pens that have dip pen nib in fountain pen, but those tend to not work well. (Flow issues). Custom nibs could be option as well, but those are really pricey. I'm sorry that I haven't any solid suggestions for you.
@@CyaneInkArt thanks for the response. Joyed the video one thing that you may also wish to discuss with the fountain pens is it’s usage with various inks and papers. It’s a significant issue for calligraphers so may also be for fountainp en users
Is this your lamy Original? because my lamy EF is much wider and dont know why, maybe fake.
Yes, it is Lamy original nib. Don't worry about your pen being fake, I tested several Lamy EF nibs at their flagship store and some of them where so wide! There is pretty large inconsistency in Lamy EF nibs. Some are more like F nibs.
@@CyaneInkArt very sad :( i normally write with very very fine pens and now that i tried to shift to fountain pens i found my first one being larger and its really unconfortable on the other hand my 2 euro fountain pen write finer :facepalm:
Where can i fine a real EF (0.2 or 0.3 dont remeber) nib for my Lamy safary?
I write really small thats why i need a really EF nib, my font size and style is simimal to this video th-cam.com/video/q6rfoRiWa8A/w-d-xo.html
@@CyaneInkArt Can u suggest me a pen that cost simila to Lami Safari with a UEF nib which is also dryer like the Platinum 3776 (which cost too much)?
Hi Benwick,
Welcome to the fountain pen community.
I would suggest a FABER CASTELL LOOM EF Nib, Pilot PENMANSHIP EF Nib, Platinum Plaisir EF Nib, and Online EF Nib.
Western Europe Jowo, Bock nib makers EF Nib write like a F nib (0.4 mm line width).
Pilot /Platinum F nibs writes (0.4mm line width ) and EF Nibs writes (0.3 mm line width). But keep in mind that since the nib is so thin, the feedback /feel on the writing experience might be too tactile on paper where you know you are writing on Paper. Platinum ultra extra fine nibs have line width of (0.2 mm) in their Preppy / Prefonte models. But Platinum is famous for a hint of tactile feedback but not scratchy.
Montegrappa EF Nib writes really smooth and thin like a Japanese EF Nib but then you are spending 180 US dollars or more. If you don't mind spending 150-250 US dollars, you can get pilot EF Nibs with smooth gold nibs with really thin lines.
Be safe and well during the pandemic
This was so helpfull.. thank you so much
It's a bit of a shame - I'm just watching the video but can't quite make out what's being said. The sound volume is a bit too soft for my hearing, I'm afraid. Had to stop at 2:49 as I can't get anything out of this video, unfortunately. Perhaps you could take the volume setting into consideration in your future vids? Thanks.
You know, there is volume button on youtube player and on your device just for adjusting volume to your personal preference...
@@CyaneInkArt Did try both settings at the bottom of the YT screen and on my device before I left my feedback. Unfortunately, it didn’t help.
@@kindface that’s strange. I have nice audio even when the volume on my device is at mid-range. So this video has perfect volume levels. I wonder what’s happening on your device. I hope you find out what the problem is.
@Kindface I have hearing loss and have to turn up the volume on some videos, but the volume in this video is fine. Maybe there's an option in your settings menu that will enable you to increase your volume.
what a beautiful voice.