Eagerly awaiting your review of the new Grand 2 with the Kawai RH3 action. Other than the size, now you get the layering and the Kawai keybed so seems like it would be almost perfect for you.
Hi Stan I have just started playing / experimenting with my nord piano5. I had bought it before i saw your videos on your channel. I had a choice between 3 A juno x Yamaha cp88 And the nord 5 As soon as i heard & played the nord it was for me However i took note about your comment on playing octaves with nord5 & i see what you mean, hopefully it does not become an issue Im just a hobbyist that wants to play songs i love using chords. I enjoy your videos Can you show me how to have 4 different voices over 4 split points Say 2 piano & 2 synths White, imperial dx7, and a synth. Keep the videos coming
Thank you for the kind words, Anthony. Welcome to the pianophonics community. I'm glad you found the videos insightful. Thanks for sharing what is you'd find useful for future videos content. I have been through some tough times for the last 4 months, however, we are over it, therefore, I hope to resume the work on the channel soon over the weekends and more content to arrive. Keep this space and feel free to comment, like and promote any videos that you found insightful to your network.
@@grandpianord Will do I going to check over your other nord5 videos to see what i can learn I want be able to get the best out of this fine instrument
Hi Stan Now that I have been playing the nord about a week To overcome the keyboard isssue when playing octacaves I find if i press the keys at the very botttom of the keys It doesnt scratch
@@antonydouglas8023 Thank you for sharing your findings Anthony. That's what this community and channel is all about it: helping others and give something back to the community. Appreciate it.
Update to the video as of July 2024: I did go to a music store and played the Nord Stage 4 and I can confirm there's little difference in terms of action between Nord Stage 4 and Nord Piano 5, i.e. as a pianist it brings no benefit to go with NP series if you have the budget, as the Nord Stage 4's keybed is as good, if not better than the Nord Piano 5's keybed.
The piano action is the most important for me. I have Yamaha P-515 and have been searching for an upgrade for some time (I had P-515 for ~10 months). The main aspect of the upgrade has to be the action (I add piano VSTs such as VSL Bosendorfer 280VC, Garritan CFX or Pianoteq 8 Standard). Roland actions are out of the question (I had four Roland digital pianos including FP-90X). I do not want to even come close to Kawai plastic actions (too loud, especially on a key return). The same for Fatar. What shall I do? I tested Nord Piano 5 for at least 1.5 h - I like the sounds, I could live with the action, I do not like numerous settings and the clutter of buttons, knobs etc. I only want portable digital piano (no Yamaha Clavinova or Kawai CA series). I really like your reviews! They give me many answers to my questions, even though that I did not ask yet. I very much appreciate what you do. Thank you, Michael Ps. Do you have any option about NWX action?
Really good to hear that I was able to answer premptely questions that my community hasn't even asked yet. :) Thanks for the feedback. That is appreciated. AFAIK, Nord Piano 5 does use Fatar keybed (still to have that confirmed). Difficult call if you want a stage piano with a great action. If budget allows, I'd wait for Piano Grand 2 for home, see how the action is on that - test it before buying and choose a Nord Piano 5 or Stage 4 for gigs/on the move/stage concerts. I've only owned Yamaha CP88 and DGX-660, thus, if I were to look at P515, I'd need to own one to play it for few months before I make an opinion on the keybed that I can share. Will keep this in mind, if I get an opportunity to play one for an extended period of time.
I have a Nord electro 6D and I have a Yamaha P515. I absolutely LOVE both of them and I’m looking to upgrade to the Piano 5 and keep the 515 in another room of the house. Based on videos and my electro 6D the piano sounds are out of this world! But the action of the 515 is just great
Velvet Grand. Released in Dec 2015, The Velvet Grand is a large concert Grand of German heritage with a remarkably rich, soft and soulful tone. If you drill down into the sample file details, we find BL model 1, which most likely stands for Bluthner. There used to be a saying “a Steinway for the concert hall, a Bechstein for the theatre and Blüthner for the home.” There is a lot of truth in this, as Steinways generally aim for a big powerful tone, Bechsteins for a more subtle tone but still quite powerful, and Blüthner very much more mellow, usually with a lighter action. These are the most common of the fine German makes.
The size of the keybed is same as that of a grand piano, however, for me there's still room for improvement on the keybed. Please, watch my review video on Piano 5 to understand better what I mean when I shared that.
Could you please explain again what the problem with playing octaves on Piano 5 keyboard is? Also, is polyphony of only 120 really enough, especially when the voices are layered?
No problems with the polyphony even when multiple voices are layered as I'd asume, the memory allocation is different/dedicated per layer. i.e. every layer has its own amount of memory allocated. I believe I've provided more details on that in one of my responses to someone who asked similar question. In short, the deapth which the key goes down would have worked better if it was 10% to 15% smaller for my medium palm size. It requires you to play the notes with your thumb as a professional, otherwise, over time you will become aware of the corner of the key before the one you play (left on when playing with your left hand and right one/next one when playing wtih your right hand). Hope that makes sense. That's my only challenge with the Nord Piano 5 keybed.
@@grandpianordI tested Piano 5 at the store again, paying attention to the white key sharp edge issue, you have mentioned. Thank you for pointing out to it!!! It is a deal breaker for me. Michael
@@mfurman Hi Michael, I aim at being as objective as possible in all my reviews. I'm glad I brought some awareness here. This phenomen happens to any kind of piano but it's been a bit more than I was expecting at NP5 (this model). I played the Nord Piano 3 and the keys were just a touch smaller and that makes a huge difference. My hand size is average size and never had observed this phenomen on any any other piano I've played over the years. Does this change anything for me? No, I'd still buy this piano if I had been given a second chance as it does so many other things great.
@@grandpianord Stan, the keys are just regular size (octave width - 16.5cm) but they are sharp at the edges (not well polished). My P-515 (the same octave width) does not have this problem. It could also be that the keys go lower when pressed down.
In a previous video, you mentioned you preferred the Nord grand Key bed (kawaii) as it felt the most “real” What changed for you? I own the Nord Grand and wish it were a bit more compact and had the piano layering capabilities the Nord 5 has, but I’ve grown to love the touch of the Grand so much, it’s difficult to let it go. I haven’t tried the 5 yet. I was always a Yamaha player in the past. Now Yamaha digital pianos feel clunky.
Hi Jason, The number 1 reason for which I went with Nord Piano 5 against Nord Grand was the size or more compact factor and then the piano layering capabilities. The trade in regards to touch/action is more than acceptable for me. If the Nord Grand would've had identifcal action bed with Kawai MP11SE, then it would've been a very difficult choice to make, as I was so pleasantly surprised by the action of Kawai MP11SE when I played it. I will re-assess my decision when Nord comes up with Nord Grand 2 or something at Kawai MP11SE action level. Until then, I should be more than satisfied to use the Nord Piano 5. As with many other things, I believe it's more important for me to enjoy and play it than getting stuck into this action vs the other. Looking forward to hearing from you with your feedback once you've got a chance to play both (Piano 5 and Grand from Nord)
Eagerly awaiting your review of the new Grand 2 with the Kawai RH3 action. Other than the size, now you get the layering and the Kawai keybed so seems like it would be almost perfect for you.
Indeed, Nord Grand 2 might strike the right balance. Stay tuned as this is something on the roadmap in terms of content for the channel.
Hi Stan
I have just started playing / experimenting with my nord piano5.
I had bought it before i saw your videos on your channel.
I had a choice between 3
A juno x
Yamaha cp88
And the nord 5
As soon as i heard & played the nord it was for me
However i took note about your comment on playing octaves with nord5 & i see what you mean, hopefully it does not become an issue
Im just a hobbyist that wants to play songs i love using chords. I enjoy your videos
Can you show me how to have 4 different voices over 4 split points
Say 2 piano & 2 synths
White, imperial dx7, and a synth. Keep the videos coming
Thank you for the kind words, Anthony. Welcome to the pianophonics community. I'm glad you found the videos insightful. Thanks for sharing what is you'd find useful for future videos content. I have been through some tough times for the last 4 months, however, we are over it, therefore, I hope to resume the work on the channel soon over the weekends and more content to arrive. Keep this space and feel free to comment, like and promote any videos that you found insightful to your network.
@@grandpianord
Will do
I going to check over your other nord5 videos to see what i can learn
I want be able to get the best out of this fine instrument
Hi Stan
Now that I have been playing the nord about a week
To overcome the keyboard isssue when playing octacaves
I find if i press the keys at the very botttom of the keys
It doesnt scratch
@@antonydouglas8023 Thank you for sharing your findings Anthony. That's what this community and channel is all about it: helping others and give something back to the community. Appreciate it.
Update to the video as of July 2024: I did go to a music store and played the Nord Stage 4 and I can confirm there's little difference in terms of action between Nord Stage 4 and Nord Piano 5, i.e. as a pianist it brings no benefit to go with NP series if you have the budget, as the Nord Stage 4's keybed is as good, if not better than the Nord Piano 5's keybed.
The piano action is the most important for me. I have Yamaha P-515 and have been searching for an upgrade for some time (I had P-515 for ~10 months). The main aspect of the upgrade has to be the action (I add piano VSTs such as VSL Bosendorfer 280VC, Garritan CFX or Pianoteq 8 Standard). Roland actions are out of the question (I had four Roland digital pianos including FP-90X). I do not want to even come close to Kawai plastic actions (too loud, especially on a key return). The same for Fatar. What shall I do?
I tested Nord Piano 5 for at least 1.5 h - I like the sounds, I could live with the action, I do not like numerous settings and the clutter of buttons, knobs etc. I only want portable digital piano (no Yamaha Clavinova or Kawai CA series).
I really like your reviews! They give me many answers to my questions, even though that I did not ask yet.
I very much appreciate what you do.
Thank you,
Michael
Ps. Do you have any option about NWX action?
Really good to hear that I was able to answer premptely questions that my community hasn't even asked yet. :) Thanks for the feedback. That is appreciated.
AFAIK, Nord Piano 5 does use Fatar keybed (still to have that confirmed). Difficult call if you want a stage piano with a great action. If budget allows, I'd wait for Piano Grand 2 for home, see how the action is on that - test it before buying and choose a Nord Piano 5 or Stage 4 for gigs/on the move/stage concerts. I've only owned Yamaha CP88 and DGX-660, thus, if I were to look at P515, I'd need to own one to play it for few months before I make an opinion on the keybed that I can share. Will keep this in mind, if I get an opportunity to play one for an extended period of time.
I have a Nord electro 6D and I have a Yamaha P515. I absolutely LOVE both of them and I’m looking to upgrade to the Piano 5 and keep the 515 in another room of the house. Based on videos and my electro 6D the piano sounds are out of this world! But the action of the 515 is just great
@@carvellaustiniii3379 thank you for sharing with the community. In deed the action is nice on P515.
May I ask if the velvet is Bechstein D282?
Is the key size of piano 5 the same as that of a traditional piano🤔
Velvet Grand. Released in Dec 2015, The Velvet Grand is a large concert Grand of German heritage with a remarkably rich, soft and soulful tone. If you drill down into the sample file details, we find BL model 1, which most likely stands for Bluthner. There used to be a saying “a Steinway for the concert hall, a Bechstein for the theatre and Blüthner for the home.” There is a lot of truth in this, as Steinways generally aim for a big powerful tone, Bechsteins for a more subtle tone but still quite powerful, and Blüthner very much more mellow, usually with a lighter action. These are the most common of the fine German makes.
The size of the keybed is same as that of a grand piano, however, for me there's still room for improvement on the keybed. Please, watch my review video on Piano 5 to understand better what I mean when I shared that.
@@grandpianord Thank you very much Mr. Stan for the detailed explanation👍
Could you please explain again what the problem with playing octaves on Piano 5 keyboard is?
Also, is polyphony of only 120 really enough, especially when the voices are layered?
No problems with the polyphony even when multiple voices are layered as I'd asume, the memory allocation is different/dedicated per layer. i.e. every layer has its own amount of memory allocated.
I believe I've provided more details on that in one of my responses to someone who asked similar question. In short, the deapth which the key goes down would have worked better if it was 10% to 15% smaller for my medium palm size. It requires you to play the notes with your thumb as a professional, otherwise, over time you will become aware of the corner of the key before the one you play (left on when playing with your left hand and right one/next one when playing wtih your right hand). Hope that makes sense. That's my only challenge with the Nord Piano 5 keybed.
@@grandpianord I got it. Thank you Stan!
@@grandpianordI tested Piano 5 at the store again, paying attention to the white key sharp edge issue, you have mentioned. Thank you for pointing out to it!!! It is a deal breaker for me.
Michael
@@mfurman Hi Michael, I aim at being as objective as possible in all my reviews. I'm glad I brought some awareness here. This phenomen happens to any kind of piano but it's been a bit more than I was expecting at NP5 (this model). I played the Nord Piano 3 and the keys were just a touch smaller and that makes a huge difference. My hand size is average size and never had observed this phenomen on any any other piano I've played over the years. Does this change anything for me? No, I'd still buy this piano if I had been given a second chance as it does so many other things great.
@@grandpianord Stan, the keys are just regular size (octave width - 16.5cm) but they are sharp at the edges (not well polished). My P-515 (the same octave width) does not have this problem. It could also be that the keys go lower when pressed down.
In a previous video, you mentioned you preferred the Nord grand Key bed (kawaii) as it felt the most “real”
What changed for you?
I own the Nord Grand and wish it were a bit more compact and had the piano layering capabilities the Nord 5 has, but I’ve grown to love the touch of the Grand so much, it’s difficult to let it go. I haven’t tried the 5 yet. I was always a Yamaha player in the past. Now Yamaha digital pianos feel clunky.
Hi Jason,
The number 1 reason for which I went with Nord Piano 5 against Nord Grand was the size or more compact factor and then the piano layering capabilities. The trade in regards to touch/action is more than acceptable for me. If the Nord Grand would've had identifcal action bed with Kawai MP11SE, then it would've been a very difficult choice to make, as I was so pleasantly surprised by the action of Kawai MP11SE when I played it. I will re-assess my decision when Nord comes up with Nord Grand 2 or something at Kawai MP11SE action level. Until then, I should be more than satisfied to use the Nord Piano 5. As with many other things, I believe it's more important for me to enjoy and play it than getting stuck into this action vs the other. Looking forward to hearing from you with your feedback once you've got a chance to play both (Piano 5 and Grand from Nord)
👍
thanks, bilozkip