Cloudhammer Steelworks (Byzer) $530 Katana Review and Destruction
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ย. 2021
- This is a review of a Byzer katana. (Now Cloudhammer Steelworks)
You can see info about their products here - www.byzer.net/nd.jsp?id=9
The facebook site also works - profile.php?...
The site needs a bit of work but it should get you to some contact information. This sword was sent to me for review.
Notes:
Took the most punishment of any sword I have tested (with my current methods) so far.
The ito is made of a leather material I am not familiar with but feels comfortable. It was also tight (mostly) and stayed that way for the duration of my usage and testing. The sword was a comfortable tool for iaido as well though I would not say the fit and finish was anything special.
The sword held up very well to abuse, edge retention was OK, better than some through hardened blades but not as good as some other differentially hardened blades. That said, it took more shock and abuse to destroy the blade than any sword I have broken using my current method. The only one that stands out in my mind as similar is the ronin dojo pro, but it has been many years since I have tested one and I am more efficient at braking them now. As it is, this takes a special level of abuse to break and is at the top of the game in durability for a $500ish sword. The sword is stated to be made of S7 steel, which can be made to withstand a lot of punishment. I can never tell what something is made from but this sword held up better than others have.
Handle/Tsuka Length: 10.75”
Blade/Nagasa Length: 27.5” (without habaki)
Total: 39.25”
Sori: .49”
Moto-haba: 1.23”
Saki-haba: .30”
Motokasane: .98”
Sakikasane: .18”
Weight: 2lb 5.6oz
POB: ” 5.25” from tsuba
HRC: Between 50-55 - No bite on 50, some on the 55 file
MSRP: $530
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favorite sword youtuber so far. nothing cringe or flashy and just thorough enthusiastic efficient testing
Glad you like the videos. Hope it was helpful.
Yes, I learn more from Matt's videos than anyone else's, even Mr. Clean Matt (Easton)
I appreciate this video very much. I was interested in such testing of a Cloudhammer s7 and or s5 sword. So far I have only seen Shad/Tyranth's abuse of one. Again, thanks.
Great Review! Love the random happenings in the background. Just a samurai in the woods as a riding mover goes by....
My neighbors are used to it.
Really good video. That blade took a lot to break. Been waiting for this one since that sneak peek you gave us a while back. Very interesting. After seeing this video, if I had $530+ to blow right now, I would definitely consider one from them.
You are a pro at this reviewing business, sir
Thank you for the kind words.
Great content! Is it possible in your testing to see how the Tsuba hold up to strikes against them?
Yay more sword videos!
Hooray!!,…a katana!, thanks Mr. Jensen.
Another great video!!!!! Cheers!!!!!
Thanks for getting this out, curious about their slightly longer $560 offering.
welcome
Great video as always. When are you going to review a high end sword from Yarinohanzo?
Great review, Matthew! Looks as though they properly heat treated that S7 blade. Their Chinese dao looks interesting as well.
If you wanted a sword that held up to a lot of shock, this S7 stuff seems like it would do well.
Byzer, can't say I've ever come across it, in my relatively short tenor other than your video, shows how many options there are in the market today, considering they don't advertise its such a great service to all that they sent you a sample, that being said...Bad Ass video dude, so descriptive and complete 👏...so well done....impressed at the quality of the steel and fit and finish, from what I've seen, a definite consideration for the price....one other thing I learned pondering my upcoming destruction test is I need desperately some protective armor and head gear...lol..or I can't do it....question Matt what is the croquet stick of doom made of, need to fashion one myself...absolutely fantastic job Matthew, so impressed
It’s a mild steel rod.
Good insightful, informative test review!
First time viewer here of your videos. You seem to be very knowledgeable and methodical, a little like JoeX, the Blade Destroyer.
As you had priviously indicated most of these "Zombie Apocalypse" branded novelty swords, blades are Rip-off gimmicks that just do not hold up are a "Money Pit", an alluring trap to be avoided!
Seeing your well done informative tests reviews and results, clearly reinforces my conclusion that the Cold Steel hybrid Sword Machetes espically the; Chinese Sword Machete,Tactical Katana, Cutlas,Barong,Kopis, Jungle,Gladius and Bowies are overall the best, virtually indestructible for use as Tools and Survival/Emergency situation Personal Safety Defensive Devices.
I cannot see investing large sums of money into a sword ,when I can buy the Cold Steel hybrid Sword Machetes. Such as the Chinese Sword Machete , Tactical Katana,Cutlas, Barong,Kopis, Jungle or Gladius at a mere fraction of the cost.
If only i could figure out how to order. Wish there was more of a selection on the site. But I definitely want one
You need to contact them via FB. They then send you tons of photos of options.
@@tengu190 whats the page name?
Please do a review on John Lee katana’s. I own the practical model
You have my favorite sword channel!! Is there a sword that has not broken?
MATT TALKS STEEL TYPES!! NICE!!
Thats Paul Bos heat treated, holy shit. I have a couple knives treatet to his protocol, the TOPS/Buck CSAR-T folder and another one..
Im surprised to see that. He developed protocols for heat treating powdered steels that made them more useful in different kinds of blades.
Lol at the dude mowing the lawn in the background....wonder what he thinks of your sword shenanigans. Lmfao
I thought this was a sword review, but dang! Look at those guns!
I'd like to see you're take on the Musashi Umi and/or Umigame katana off Amazon. Laminated and differentially hardened for under $220. Seems like a good deal.
I don't own one but I would be happy to review either of them if they were sent my way.
It would be great to get a bare blade from Byzer, then set it up with custom fittings & mount. Then I would want to send it to Eric Husayn to be sharpened. The possibilities for this sword are very exciting!
I've seen the gentleman that supposedly owns this brand doing his own test videos and showing off on Facebook along with the S7 steel receipt. It's good to know the bold claim isn't completely unfounded. The cross section seemingly shows a "jacketed" thin layer of metal on the outside of the steel, I'm not sure if it's some kind of optical illusion from the camerawork or what. And you mentioned that there's not a lot of distal taper, but based on the measurements in the description: Saki-haba: .30”
Sakikasane: .18”, am I crazy or that's quite a bit of distal tapering for a katana (40% seems to be more than most other modern katanas)? The profile taper does seem not very pronounced though.
That note about the taper is fair. Most katana out of china start at .24 and taper some. Starting at .3 might be why it feels a bit chunky.
Very pretty sword, it almost looks like an hsts tsunami.. the croquet stick of doom is becoming famous 😁
Great video! I was wondering if you had any insight regarding this: I purchased a Tori Katana Elite off Amazon that’s arriving soon. Is there any way to validate authenticity? Thanks!
Post on a Facebook site. Someone can tell you if it is legit.
@@Matthew_Jensen thank you sir.
Very thorough review as always,Sir! Is the samegawa fully wrapped? I’m curious. Not out of my price range,but does seem a little overpriced. Extremely durable blade,but needs a master smith for the steel. I also own a $350 Ryansword #1136,and like yours, I think I got more for the money,minus the extreme durability of the Byzer blade.I will definitely take a look at their website,as you have peeked my curiosity. Thanks!!
Hard to use their site. Don't know how to order
Your bamboo Matt is made of a so called super steel?? Swedish powdered steel?
Are you willing to try one of the hanwei raptors? It would be really interesting
I reviewed a couple raptors a few years ago. They are decent swords. In terms of breaking one, I only do that for provided samples and so far, CAS is not keen on sending any my way.
@@Matthew_Jensen I see
I do not like their tsuka. Check out Mr. Excalibur's reviews of Raptor. The Nanbuchuko zukuri has the worst tsuka in the series.
@@tengu190 I actually bought the nanbokucho raptor a month ago ... Mine was not that bad... It had an axe handle yes... But it wasnt too wide to make it uncomfortable... Also the tsuka came like half an inch shorter... I dont know maybe I got lucky... The only problem is that it is a little bit heavy... Well again thats not a problem for me since I am 6.2 and 170 lbs full of muscle but I wouldnt suggest it for a shorter or weaker person... This sword is a thick beast ideal for heavy cutting (and thats why I bought it) or I dont know like a zombie apocalypse lmao... But for Iaido and stuff I wouldnt really recommend it
@@asoasotriadio Skyjiro Hanabira and the Dragon King Winter Sun are both 30" and more balanced between cutting and iai. I use a 2.7 shaku currently for iai. The two 2.8 shaku iai on the market sub $900 I am not really a fan of, Ryujin and Ronin.
Don't you hate it that, no matter how you go back to noto that there's oils on the blade and from your thumb. Even with keeping your fingers and hand palmish area, that you always have to take the sword back out, carefully later and clean the sword with rice paper or whatnot.
This one is stock removal done. They purchase BOS heat treated S7 from USA and cut from that steel plate.
They do stock removal after heat treating? That would be strange indeed.
Obviously you are a layman. Byzer's cpm 3v is heat-treated by Bos, but the s7 material comes from Finkl in the United States and is forged and heat-treated by Byzer itself.
@@ToxicityAssured Byzer's cpm 3v is heat-treated by Bos, but the s7 material comes from Finkl in the United States and is forged and heat-treated by Byzer itself.
What is the croquet stick made of? Metal rod??
mild steel
I keep getting discouraged in buying a katana from all of the things I see about how much a “true” katana cost from Japan… i know I’m not going to be using the sword but I like the feeling of knowing it will not break over something small…
You don’t have to buy from Japan to get a quality katana. They have a lot of mark up on their prices because of laws and regulations.
I think it's quite an ugly blade this one in my opinion, but if it came with the basic furniture as a blank blade it seems like a very worthy DIY clean up job for the money. It took quite a lot.
Whats interesting is the leather to me, it's clean cut on the sides like any other buffalo leather lace might , which as far as I know is quite unusual for katanas, as doesn't most leather come thinned and folded at the edges?
23:17 oh what your neighbor must be thinking as he Mows his grass and looks up and sees this lol
They are used to it at this point.
Seeing you touch the edge of that blade is strange, I'm not used to that.
what sword is it? the link doesnt work anymore
You can find them now at RVA katana. Byzer has changed it's name to Cloudhammer.
You need to collaborate with Paul Martin
That would be lots of fun.
bos??? is that like what buck uses on there knives
I think Buck uses a type of stainless, Not sure if S7 stems from that or not but I would guess no.
coldsteel swords were stronger? 🤔
I have not pushed one to failure yet but generally speaking they have had other issues.
You should only use stones for knives and swords. You cannot get as good of an edge of a belt or grinder.
Then i chucked it at at tree 🤣 🌲
I'm sorry it was just funny. It makes sense and you're right it does make sense obviously, but it was just funny how you said that
Buy some chaps for leg protection.
too cheep, I have had my eye out for something that would work but so far all the options are a little more than I want to spend or too cumbersome to put on.
@@Matthew_Jensen how about leather chaps that some blacksmiths wear. Chainsaw chaps are too cheap?
It hurts my eyes watching the destruction of this beautiful blade...
A sub 1000 USD S7 katana, interesting.
''What do you do for a living?''
''I destroy swords''
NO hamon? Is a deal breaker.It looks like some of there swords even have fake hamons.
I haven't watched it fully yet but i will for sure. I do agree though... usually it's better to avoid advanced tool steel swords sold in the budget price range.
I'm not talking about T10 but steels like L6 and such.
When it's under the 1k2USD base you just know it... they will most likely f.ck it up. There is a reason company like MAS Butouken or else are selling at higher prices.
Quality control, equipment and skills...
So i don't know about S7 blade in the 500USD price range. Hope i'm wrong tho...
They also offer S5 blades
@@tengu190 i don't know about this specific brand. But you know generally speaking buying a production sword within the 300-600USD and forged with an advanced steel or using a complex design like... hon san mai or any other can be a hit or miss.
It will require more attention, longer time, more skills or just some advanced equipment and overall a better quality control to do it right. So i just think it's generally safer to leave it to some high end company or even better, get a custom order from someone.
Of course it will cost a lot more.
Because i've seen company like Hanwei failing the heat treatment on their L6 models. Oni / Praying Mantis. Or some powder steel. And you know... that's a 1k3 sword so...
Like i said, hit or miss.
But i'm not saying their swords will turn out bad, i don't know them. I was just agreeing with Matthew on this. Just generally speaking.
@@Silen7Force another company that uses proprietary steels is Skyjiro. But those blades are specifically made for tatami and bamboo.
The owner of the company once stated that the tip should be blunt, even antique's tip was blunt. He's very ignorant and his stuff shows.
I would imagine there are some antique blades with dull tips but I don’t think it is the standard.
No hi katana is better looked hi katana
I couldn't figure out how to buy one. I was confused as a blind lesbian in a fish market
Mainland China company. I know the boss. They recently just attacked a customer with scissors and sword. 白澤堂.
The customer had scissors and a sword, or the boss had the scissors and a sword? Dual wielding either way, I guess
@@kennethg9277 the customer had nothing, went there with a complaint in transaction. The boss and his younger brother attacked him. I had some footage saved about the encounter.
Quality or not...I do NOT like the look at all. The blade looks super cheap and the ito is also ugly. Ok, it's solid...and maybe it will fing it's customers. For that amount of money I would pick something different though. I am a big Huawei fan! ;-)
The ITO is very well done, even on their low cost Katanas, i have the 51crv4 spring steel for around 300$, and the leather ito looks and feels very good.
Take your Huawei sword, which takes 2 years wait time without communication, and get then a T10 cheap steel blade, which does look good, i must say, but it is only T10 cheap steel. A good looking wall hanger, that are Huawei swords for me
You really think this was the toughest? It seemed like the Baron from DSA you broke took as much, if not a little MORE to break
Because DSA are thick crowbars shaped like a sword.