5 scenes that won Oppenheimer BEST PICTURE
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Our 2nd video in our BEST PICTURE NOMINEE of 2023 series!
How do you analyze a film like Oppenheimer? As a favorite to win the Oscar for Best Picture among a host of other nominations like Cillian Murphy for Best Actor, Robert Downey Jr. for Best Supporting Actor, Emily Blunt for Best Supporting Actress, Best Score, Best Screenplay, and of course Best Director for Christopher Nolan, we all get the point that this is a unique film. So instead of trying to mine too deep into the heart of the mountain that is Oppenheimer and lose perspective, let’s take a look at 5 iconic scenes from Oppenheimer and what makes them special.
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0:00 Oppenheimer Best Picture Nomination
0:49 Scene 1: Can You Hear the Music?
6:34 HELP
7:17 Scene 2: The Interrogation
11:12 Scene 3: The Trinity Test (Controversial)
12:51 Scene 4: The Speech
15:00 Scene 5: The Conversation
18:00 Forever haunted?
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What your favorite Oppenheimer scene?
The scene where Robert Oppenheimer has poisened the apple and wants to stop him eating it. Then he tells him "The important thing isn't can you read the music, it is can you hear it. Can you hear the music... Robert?". Then it cuts to a blue sky and a beautiful montage with amazing music.
Such a creative scene and montage of his earlier life. I loved the approach to it
Every time we see Oppenheimer's nightmares. It pretty much showed what atoms are capable of. At least that's how I interpreted it
@@LastGoatKnight I think it's both that and him slowly understanding how to control those atoms. Like his initial nightmares the whole thing is so chaotic it scares him. Which all ties back to not being ready for the snake underneath the rock. But yeah, the beginning of this film sets up so much stuff that you don't even realize
@@FrameVoyager I just got to that part and yes, that sounds legit too
I think it should’ve won best sound design for the “panic attack” scene alone. They way everyone is cheering and then everything just suddenly goes silent while he sees hallucinations of destruction sent chills down my spine.
I felt the same. It should be awarded
In theory, yes. But have you seen the zone of interest? They deserved that Oscar just as much.
Oppenheimer could be Nolans year to win Best Picture.
Totally is. Actually would be surprising if it didn't win best picture and best director among others this year.
Foregone conclusion! He’s got it!
He’s already won every single glad award for each ceremony the industry has. It’s obvious the Oscar will be given to Oppenheimer for best picture
It won everything 🎉
It was.
5 scenes? It was the entire three hours that made it a best pic nominee
The atomic scene was a joke.
@@mgsparky8870what would u have wanted the scene to look like
@@augustusteow9604they’ve spent too much time on their Xbox and want cgi probably
I just saw Oppenheimer on Peacock on my large screen TV and headset on and got the full experience for those 3 hours. By the time it ended, I was gasping for air and stunned for a long time. I really didn't have any issues with the film. The Trinity test was so beautiful and tragic at the same time, looking at the beauty of the explosion in silence, hearing their breaths...so amazing.
I love that "fusion" scene where Strauss came to a dinner to talk about there was a russian spy in Los Alamos and is sugesting about creating H Bomb, if you pay attention you can see Strauss being alone at first but slowly convincing other scientist to his side against Oppenheimer.
Also, I love how we didn't see Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The story is told from Oppenheimer's POV, he's the one who created the gun, but not the one who shoot it, just like the scene where the millitary official chose those two cities to bomb because he likes Kyoto.
For me it was “The Speech”. For a film that spends so much time jumping back and forth between the present and past, interrogations and hearings, classrooms and think tanks, the real gravity of Oppenheimer’s emotional dilemma didn’t really hit me until that speech in the gymnasium. Brilliant scene.
Rami Malek pulling the uno reverse card must have been up there as a top Oppenheimer scene?
It wasn't very spectacular in a visual sense but was satisfying from the narrative side of things
I was thrilled when it swept the Oscar's. I took my son and daughter to see it earlier this year, explaining that it wasnt the type of movie I usually watch with them. When it was over it prompted a conversation with my kids that lasted a couple of hours, and I knew it had had an impact. I told them at the time that I thought it would win best picture, but so much time had passed I was afraid it may have been forgotten by Oscar voters. Thankfully not. People know originality and quality when they see it. Cant wait for Nolans next project.
I love that following the movie a conversation ensued between you and your kids. 👍♥️
@@peach7210 yeah, oddly enough it wasnt about the movie, but about the historical morality of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Looking closely at the statistics of how many lives were lost as opposed to projections of how many lives would have been lost during a full scale ground invasion of Japan. In the end we were torn, and thankful that we didnt have to make that decision. More than anything, that's my take away from the film, the idea that it makes you confront history, and America's role in World War Two and how the post atomic world is shaped.
That's what makes this film excellent. It doesn't give you the answer and leaves you with a lot to think about, especially in the world we live in today.
As I suggested in my earlier comment above, maybe this was made as a conversation piece for a younger generation confused and disturbed by the nuclear arms race and wondering, as Americans, how we could have been the nation to use this thing. Good conversation. But this film fails to explain/demonstrate the stakes, or validate the decision to use Fat Man and Little.
The speech scene is one of the most gut-punching and devastating scenes ever put to film.
The Kitty arch is one of my favorite aspects of the film. Ludwig actually gives the character her own music.
Three hours of brilliance. Oppenheimer is a man I have admired for many years.
I’m annoyed when people complain about the lack of female character development in his films. Since when is gender parity an essential factor in determining what’s good character development in film? Tell me! In Oppenheimer, both Kitty and Jean are included to reveal the man’s emotional complexity and conflicts. They are significant but incidental. This is the story of the MAN.
It's more of a critique of most Nolan films. Huge Nolan fan, but his female characters are generally written the same.
Not saying it's not the story of the man, but the female characters are mostly one dimensional. That's all
I personally take into account the fact that this script was written from Oppenheimer’s perspective. If it were supposed to be an “objective” retelling of events, I’d take more issue with the poor portrayal of the female characters. I mean, imagine the story from Kitty or Jean’s POV. I’d drink too. 😂
@@FrameVoyagerIf he doesn't do it, maybe it's not his thing, I mean it's better when we stick with things we do well, and Nolan does male protagonists very well. I don't see the point of him writing big female parts just for the heck of it if he doesn't think he would be good at it or if is just not interested in doing it.
I’ve read the biography. The Jean and Kitty relationships were essential to explaining the man’s moral compass. Paradoxical. To include the complexity of those relationships in the film would have been a major distraction from the singular focus on the man. Neither Jean nor Kitty are one-note. I think one of the reasons Emily Blunt was nominated was because she demonstrated the full range of Kitty’s emotional roller coaster in a very few scenes. She is a seducer, an opportunist, a fierce protector. That she is an alcoholic and lacks a maternal instinct had to be the thin veneer over which her more significant impact on Oppie’s life could be shown. Jean’s character has a similar arc. We are shown why her relationship with him is central to his downfall. I think Pugh would have been nommed in any other year. In a modern era Jean would probably be diagnosed as bi-polar. Pugh shows Jean’s sexual teasing, her hard-as-bricks/smooth as honey split personality, her vulnerability, again in just a very few scenes. There’s a lot of notes there!
And then there’s Mal. Again, this character’s impact on Cobb is central to the story. Nolan creates her as multi-faceted woman, as Cotillard brilliantly demonstrates, as both the woman in Cobb’s reality and the one in his dream state. I haven’t seen Interstellar yet but I’m wondering how Hathaway can be one-dimensional when she’s a main character. The films I have seen, like Memento, Insomnia and The Prestige, have no women at all ( apologies to Scarlett for being a pretty withered appendage in the latter 😏).
So…to make a short reply to your short description of Nolan’s one-note female roles, I disagree 😆
This was, by far, the most beautiifully crafted and profound film I've seen in many years (I'm 77 y.o.). The cinematography is unparalled. At the final two scenes, I inhaled and stopped breathing. A stunning conclusion and a stunning piece of film making. It reminded me that our (anti) hero's story was a perfect example of what Hannah Arendt referred to as "the banality of evil". Lofty aspirations cloaked this "destroyer of worlds." And isn't that our story as a race? Our unrelenting story. Oppenheimer may have helped bring this human cycle to its ultimate end.
"The banality of evil" sent me down into a rabbit hile about morality. Thanks for pointing it out.
the speech scene is by far Nolan’s best scene of his filmology
the pacing/editing/scoring in the Trinity test scene is amazing. If you view actual Trinity photos....it's not as far off as many think. People tend to think of H bomb explosion they've seen in old newsreels. Those are monsters!
👍 Truth.
making this video weeks before it actually won a bunch of Oscars was a bold move.
I changed the title after it won 😂
Oh what was the title beforehand?
@@isaaiceblock 5 scenes that made it a Best Picture nominee 😂
Lmao
@@isaaiceblock I 100% planned it to be that way 😂
Such an underrated video. Amazing analysis, you cover things in the film that others do not in certain scenes.
The thing I also love about the speech scene is the sound of shoes against the bleachers, which we hear throughout the film in Oppenheimer's mind however it isn't revealed what it actually is from until later on, showing the sound that haunts his mind.
which is?
I have watched every single Chris Nolan’s films ever since I was a kid. His movies has been a part of my life and his movies are the things that helped me go through tough times and give me a new dream. Oppenheimer was just staggering. It was amazing, I do not have the words to describe my feelings watching that movie especially seeing how much improvements Cillian has gotten through and I was so glad that Cillian is finally getting the attention he deserves too. The cinematography, the storyline, the dialogues, the characters, the music, the camera angles, position, lightings, editing, the script, and everything else was just amazing. I have read all the lines of the transcript and I have already rewatched the movie 5 times to better understand it. I also am reading the American Prometheus which is amazing. After my first time watching Oppenheimer, the thoughts and questions I had after watching it stayed with me for weeks, which led me to watch it again and again. I was amazed, it was breathtaking. The cinematography was beautiful and it couldn’t have been better. The fact that Nolan didn’t use cgi for the trinity test scene just made me more inspired. Four stars is not enough for this movie, neither are any stars and ratings in this world. This movie is out of this world and it is a masterpiece.
As a movie lover who is crazy for movies, I watched the whole thing live and watched it over again. I have waited for the moment for wonderful people like Cillian, RDJ, Chris, Emma, Jennifer and Hoyte to get the attention they've long deserved, and to see them finally get it was a dream come true. I want to congratulate them.
Cillian, I have been a life-long fan of yours, ever since I was a little child. Seeing you in small parts of great movies or lead parts of small movies was sad. I always knew that you deserved the big stage, the awards, the attention you deserve. Your acting was incredible from the start of your career, your stage plays, and your first few movies, I could see your potential, even if I was young. I started supporting you from then. I have been by your side, through difficulties, and successes, cheering for you, crying for you, and always being there for you, no matter what they say. I knew that you would eventually get the attention, and the awards you deserve, and I was waiting for it. Today was the day. Today, your career has drawn a path in this industry, a path that will last forever, and I congratulate you. You have deserved it. Growing up, I watched your acting through bad times, when I was down, and you were the reason why I could be the happy child I deserved to be. I want to thank you for that. You have always been there for me. I could also always relate to your actions and your personality as they were similar to mine. That meant a lot for me as a child, as a teenager who was insecure about herself. Maybe it isn't an exaggeration to say that you have saved me and that you are the reason why I am still here, I am still passionate, and I am the person I am today. Seeing you get better and develop into an amazing actor could never be better, it was the best thing that has happened in my life. My goal is to sit together with you, in front of the biggest stage in Hollywood, and say these things to you in person. Again, congratulations on the win, you have long deserved it, just remember, this is just the start, just the start of the attention you deserve. I wish you the best, stay healthy, and just be yourself. Words cannot describe how happy I am for you. I love you. Congrats!
Robert Downey Jr, congratulations. You have been an idol to me. You were my childhood. Your acting has always been spectacular and you are a wonderful person in general. You have never failed to make me smile even during tough times. You always made my day. This award was yours for a long time actually, you deserved it so much. Congratulations, your performance was magical.
Christopher Nolan, congrats! You were my role model ever since I was young. I have always been interested in movies, and the film industry, and your movies always opened up my mind. Your movies taught me important lessons, your movies always were my favourite things in the world. Thanks to you and Emma, I began to dream about a job in the film industry, and I started loving making simple films. I love your movies, your thoughts, and your process. I love your personality and the person you are. You have created countless masterpieces, you have developed many actors into who they are today, and you have touched countless people including me. This movie is a masterpiece. Thank you so much and Congratulations on your win!
I would also like to thank the wonderful casts and crews of this masterpiece, especially Emily, Matt, Hoyte, Ludwig, Universal Pictures, and so much more. Your hard work has moved countless people. This movie will never be forgotten. All of you deserve an Oscar. Thank you so much. Words cannot describe my happiness and gratitude.
It is now after the Oscars. I saw Oppenheimer months ago. Just saw a Jimmy Kimmel segment from his own show with Cillian, Emily and Robert Downy Jr. Cillian spoke about how he starved himself to make the character's physical vulunerability real. OMG I feel his doing that just magnified what he conveyed in his magnificent portrayal of this man.
Actually the whole film is outstanding and mesmerising
The trinity test scene is directed and edited to perfection. The only thing off about it is the physical characteristics of the explosion itself. I still feel he should’ve used archival footage matted into a couple shots using VFX without the need for full 3D CGI in any way. Just compositing and enhancements of existing footage. Would’ve looked amazing if they did that using Nolan’s ethos and visual style.
While the setup and tension are absolutely perfect leading up to the Trinity Test, the explosion itself did feels kind of... off in a way or two. That's one of very few flaws I had with the film, which is saying much about how amazingly well the film is produced with everyone involved giving all of their A-game efforts. Well deserved wins for Nolan and his crew.
Your analogy comparing music and quantum physics is absolutely perfect.
Appreciate it!
it's not his analogy though, it's Nolan's. It's in the film
The casting is perfect .
I loved this movie. But I had a hard time explaining why or pointing to specific scenes. Watching your analysis makes the movie that much better. You verbalize why I enjoyed this movie so much. It truly is an orchestra that ties different elements together throughout the movie.
Appreciate it! Glad I could help you verbalize it!
my hands down favorite scene is the black and white conference meeting about the russian nuclear test. Acting, dialogue, score, and editing are 🔥🔥🔥
As a mech. Eng. Student, hearing the music is so damn important. What you talk about, the way there is a difference between knowing the formulas and equations and really have a grasp of the phenomena is setting the best students off the good. Great job explaining it
Appreciate it! Math and music are so intertwined with how you can perceive them. And I love the inclusion of how it's used in the film!
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More I see Trinity test, more I love that scene.
Oppenheimer was the Ken movie. Everyone telling him how awesome and important he is and it has horses and explosions (kidding.... mostly)
😂😂😂
"It's pronounced 'Straws'" -Looiz Straws
Hoyte Van Hoytema is such a legend.
He really is
His cinematography was incredible to behold. That, the acting and the music made me like the movie. The story is a bit hit and miss and some of the characters leave much more to be desired.
Beautiful interpretation of the can you hear the music scene. Your way of describing it was so good and poetic even
Honestly dude I just finished the video and yea this is a banger lmao, phenomenal analysis and interpretations. This was a video essay
Appreciate it! I might bring more of this style video to the channel here and there now that everyone seems to be liking it!
I love the parallel between music and math. Both are interpretations of our universe, or, more succinctly, how we as humans interpret our universe. Both human "languages" of the world we inhabit. There is a beautiful symmetry between music and math, and it belies a simplicity in a universe whose complexity has provided us with a myriad of interpretations and sciences.
It really is a great way to portray it imo.
there is actually mathematics in music.
@@johnedwardcastillo8442 for sure! Between timing and the math behind how sound is created. Art and science are always closely related
Music is math by the way.
I like that you added closed captioning (CC) to the scenes that are hard to hear verbally and helps truly understand the dialogue.
Oppenheimer was straight depressed in college in the UK. He wasn't just having trouble sleeping or confused/afraid. It took some years, therapy, self-discovery and a change of location to help him slowly recover. The alleged poisoned apple incident is the nadir of that period.
The scene incorporates that to foreshadow themes of the film. So I agree there.
Well for sure, in a real historical sense. But for this film they were trying to convey both him being a troubled youth but also trying to tie that partially to the visions of the hidden world he was shown.
Honestly, I liked how they covered this part of his life. Because there is a lot of the story of this part of his life that people don't really know for certain what actually happened
Whats a Nadir? Never heard the term before and now i'm curious
@@radiansinus8126 Google ("nadir meaning") is your friend, in that case.
And still you don't understand: music and arts are based in Mathematics, the point is not to educate him in the difference between sciences and arts, but quite the opposite: to teach him how much both depend on one another.
You didn't use periods or semicolons. Smarty pants.
can’t believe you didn’t include the H bomb discussion! the transition to the football field is generational.
Honestly, so many scenes in the film were impactful I could literally make a video longer than the movie on it 😂
Great analysis once again! I love these videos!
Glad you liked it! Hoping after Oscar's season to do maybe one of these a month
I appreciate everyone’s input; there were nuances that I didn’t understand until I read some of the comments.
As for any popular film like this, there are a lot of opinions and takes haha. It's interesting to see
Excellent review. Thanks
I think the scary part about Christopher Nolan is if he had the chance to detonate an atomic bomb for the movie, that he would have.
I wouldn't have minded just seeing the 5 scenes right off; felt like I was put on hold, as you discussed. Thanks.
We did not see Hiroshima… because for Oppenheimer the scariest part is not that this weapon exists, but that it is in the hands of people who are not worthy of those decision. There is no controlling this power now.
Glad this movie won Best Picture, my favorite winner of all time with The Return of the King. The Academy got right 😁👍🏻
Thank reality we now embrace the quantum as music and more. I teach it. And an Oppenheimer was a dear friend.
Very good analysis video !
Appreciate it!
I watched this movie three times in a theater. Thanks to your video, I can now hear the music. Thank you.
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Great video ❤
Mr Demon proceedings to summarize Oppie to his face and the tete a tete that ensues
I thought Oppenheimer was great. I think much of the criticism of it being boring comes from a public conditioned to lack the concentration to enjoy it. There were so, so many important characters that needed to be covered and the entire endeavor is one so abstract to the audience that it makes it very difficult for them to become engaged. I think the movie succeeded in the herculean job of covering those bases. I also feel that some of the audience misread Oppenheimer, the man's, importance in the Los Alamos project. He was the CEO, the general manager, the facilitator, if you will. Though brilliant, he never was the most brilliant scientist involved in this. He never claimed that, but the public wants singular people to ogle, like Einstein, or, here, Oppenheimer. I think the film highlighted the immensely complicated cooperation necessary in a way most movies about war do not.
You’ve nailed it. And I think that’s why audiences watched the film multiple times. It’s outstanding on many levels.
Excellent video!
That one scene with Florence Pugh. That did it.
😅😅😅
I could not sustain watching the movie. There was a manic-ness to it that had me resonating. Also, the back and forth was not my cup of tea. Oppenheimer for me was a tortured soul. Someone whose destiny almost seems pre-determined. To have all that intelligence only to let his ego be stroked by the devil, is astounding. Having said that, the movie omits an incredibly pivotal moment in the development: without the absolute orders of magnitude more genius than Oppenheimer's of von Neumann, the project would have failed! Which brings me back to the spookiness of it all...just read-up on von Neumann for a bit and his death-bed terror, and his obsession with "that" opera...then read my comment about being "stroked by the devil" again. For sure, for eternity they will be suffering the consequences of what they developed.
The speech scene I believe is the scariest scene of 2023 and it’s not even a horror movie
It's funny. I don't remember a lick of the soundtrack but I guess that's point. It's the flow, the total experience.
Going to re-watch tonight. Great video. Got my 4k steelcase from France lol only way I could get it to NA.
appreciate it!
1. Trinity test
2. Gymnasium
3. Courtroom end scene
4. Can you hear the music
5. End scene
Thanks for bringing the thread back to the original question!
Interesting. I haven’t seen it yet but I will. I’ve seen his earlier films, enjoyed it and really appreciated is acting. He’s one of the greatest actors of our time
We did it boys
Super video!
The "atomic" explosion was weak because a chemical explosion is INHERENTLY DIFFERENT from a nuclear explosion. Trying to present one using the other is like trying to render a fighter jet with a paper aeroplane.
1) Oppenheimer is a chemist and then a phycisist
2) He doesnt repeat the line "Ive become Death...", he only thinks it in his head. Its a common misconception that he actually spoke the line out loud.
Whats that little Mic youre using, sounds awesome!!!
It's a Neumann TLM 102! Love it
It was just a very rare by todays standards it was a masterpiece and I loved everything about it.
Haven’t even seen the movie that the best supporting actress won or heard of it but at least Oppenheimer won most of em. I called Cillian n Downey jr wining it .
The visuals gave me very Strange Angel vibes..that was an inspiration I feel
Glad somebody said this. It really does
Oppenheimer, great film. Fookin’ great!
“The Making of the Atomic Bomb”, by Richard Rhodes is one of the most fascinating and interesting page turner I’ve read on any scientific subject. Anyone interested in the lives of many really smart, clever, and creative scientists would enjoy this book. The trials and challenges. What the Japanese, Germans, & Russians were doing, or not doing. Even the bomb design was a challenge. Purifying weapons grade nuclear material.
We read the book Nolan adapted. It’s a fascinating read with meticulous detail and 150 pages of Notes. American Prometheus: The Triumph of and Tragedy of J Robert Oppenheimer. A conflicted man whose conflicted character is left wide open for the audience to chew on.
Any particular reason you went with the term "quantum physics", as opposed to the broader, more encompassing term of quantum mechanics?
Amazing ❤
It is a fabulous film. A powerful story with so many challenges issues at all levels. To build a monster like it, provides security for our planet. Nobody wants this world to end. There is not a reason to do so. A new world will bring to society the same issues we have today. Humans think like it and results are similar at all times. Call it a snake or a monster is the same result. I think a bigger monster was created to control other monsters, fear makes people to think deeply about consequencesit, the atomic bomb fits such purpose to control. It is an extraordinary story with some great actors...
I thought the acting in Oppenheimer was brilliant, no question. But using endless loud music in almost every scene bothered me and it took a while to figure out why: it made much of the movie seem like one long trailer. I've noticed this trend in other modern movies, and it makes stillness and intimacy almost impossible.
That's a Nolan film for ya. His philosophy has always been that the music/sfx are just as important a character in the film as the dialogue is. I personally enjoy this style and the loud music but I totally understand why others don't. I do really like moments in other films that are very still. Silence by Scorsese is one of my favorite films and it's so totally opposite of how Nolan makes movies.
@@FrameVoyager I think that’s actually what Nolan says, the score is a main character. That silence in the bunker blew my mind. We have the soundtrack. We put it on every time we sit to do our paperwork.
Not just the explosion, even the dust and lighting doesn’t make sense at all, the explosion only lights up the ground where the spectators are laying, the one soilder says don’t remove the glass before you can see the lights reflected on the mountains, but it never does it’s pitch black chris with his budget could easly have created the most photorealistic depiction of a atomic bomb the same way he created one in dark knight rises even. I got dissapointed because i was waiting for that black hole moment from interstellar, i was expecting to see the greatest visual representation of a atomic explosion.
That's really the part of the film that I feel people have a legitimate argument about. I feel like he could have figured out how to make this look a bit better. Weird to go from Interstellar to get an accurate black hole model to not doing the same for this
I agree wholeheartedly
I watched it when it was first released I thought it was awesome.
I thought Russel Crow in A Beautiful Mind and Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia went to similar places. They were vessels of something larger that both terrified and seduced them.
This is a great video. I really enjoyed it. Or maybe that’s not really the emotions that “enjoy” means. 🥴
Nice analysis...but it's Straws :)
Einstein was angry cause oppenhiemer said "We" trying to add einstein's name to the discovery of WMD
It had to come out
Order out of chaos. Certainty out of mystery. The acquisition of knowledge always seems to promise good things, but that knowledge does create a new reality that is difficult or impossible to undo. Today we live in a world of destructive capabilities that were previously unimaginable. Knowledge without wisdom that can be employed by those with no sense of right or wrong. It's plenty to discourage any idealist who believes in a perfect world.
It was a nice psudo-documentary. I liked Downey.
In my opinion, I hated how Jason Clarke's Roger Robb character treated Oppenheimer. He wanted Oppenheimer to rot and feel defeated in front of him to his satisfaction. I'm just so glad I didn't read the book, because it might've been worse.
13:42 - Nolan's next venture is going to be a horror movie supposedly.
Hope so! Would be interesting to see his spin on it
The sex scene in the interrogation room was awkward.
It was really supposed to be awkward and uncomfortable.
@@FrameVoyager Yes. It showed how humiliated Kitty was when their private lives were going to be public. In the book it says Oppie had short affairs even during their marriage. He was a womanizer. In the film when someone comments on women’s attraction to him he quips it must be my brilliance or something like that. Another couple tidbits from the book: Lawrence would not come to support Oppie bcuz the affair he had with a friend’s wife caused her husband to be heartbroken. Oppie says, no, he had a heart attack. Kitty was despised by everyone at Los Alamos. She was a drunk, crude and cruel. She was ostracized in social gatherings. Read American Prometheus and the 150 pages of End Notes! Totally fascinating! (Including the scene where hands are on Jean’s back drowning her. That was the widely held belief. FBI was afraid their pillow talk would divulge top secret info so the Commie had to go!
Yes it was! It was designed to make you very uncomfortable.
None of it was necessary. It was gratuitous Hollywood tripe. Their perversions aren't satisfied unless you see a naked woman.
How did the creator of the universe know that atoms needed to be made?
'bio-pic' as in biographical picture, not 'biop-ic'
Did I say bi-ah-pic? My bad. Bad habit of saying it that way
The ending scene...i hope that he wasnt too burdened in his later life. We had to drop the bomb. My father had me late in life and my grandfather had him really late, so i have family members who were around then. The reason was the japanese were so brainwashed by their government that they were willing to kill themselves and all their wounded rather than be captured. We were losing so many soldiers in horribly grusome ways, we had to give an ultimatum. Im sorry that it happened but most of us would not be here were it not for that bomb. Im just setting some perspective. In WW2 we had no choice. We could have used it in vietnam and saved a lot of lives but we didnt.
The picture is top ten all-time. The book vastly exceeds the short shrift / cursory film recounting.
As all books generally do 😅
@@FrameVoyager So true, this one especially. It was a tour de force of the Who's Who in world cutting edge science at one of the most critical times in history. The massive scope of the undertaking and accomplishment and a scorecard of the individuals involved is/was truly breathtaking. Bohr, Lawrence, etc etc
I marveled at how Nolan adapted the immense biography with 150 pages of Notes into its essentials for the film. We’ve read the book and also the audio book. I especially like the fleeting shot of gloved hands pushing Jean’s head into the tub water. A lot more detail of that in the book!
@@mgariepy42 The book is epoch. Includes interviews w the real players. Just all the detail concerning the greatest minds in the world at that time.
I utterly detested all of the intellectuals in this film aside from Dr. Lawrence (Josh Hartnett). He really 'got it' more than the others. He was the only other practical scientist in the film besides Oppenheimer. The rest were all utterly nauseating from start to stop with their Communist advocacy and fake moral hand wringing.
Either build the bomb or don't- but don't join the Manhattan Project just to afford yourself a bigger platform to voice your moral outrage over it in the press afterwards. I swear to God, some of those scientists seemed to follow this logic:
"In order for me to be able to tell everyone nuclear weapons are abominations that should never be invented, I must first invent them! That'll give the credibility I'll need to spend the rest of my life lecturing against them!"
How could they make a historical mistake like that about the US flag?
The method defined
Video well made. Job well done. Saying this after watching tons of trash on the topic.
Appreciate it!
The one thing I learned from this film, is that even scientists and engineers can get laid despite the social stigma surrounding their social interactions with hoomans.
The interrogation scene in which Oppenheimer was depicted as engaging in sexual activity was the reason my initial viewing of the film resulted in, shall we say, an "incomplete" experience. I understand that it aimed to convey vulnerability, but depicting his affair through on-screen intercourse was gratuitous and unnecessary.
I don’t want to be nitpicky here, I love Oppenheimer soo much and I am so happy for Murphy’s deserved trajectory over the last years. But, regarding the Sanskrit passage displayed in the movie (here at 9:00), it’s baffling to me why they didn’t ask anybody experienced with Sanskrit or the pan-Indian Devanāgarī script to render the proper text that’s used in the movie. Conjunctions are not displayed properly and the application of vocal sign ि i (as in न हि प्रजानामि na hi prajānāmi) is simply wrong due to a typeface and/or keyboard layout that didn’t work properly. It’s annoying to me, because anybody with some basic knowledge of South Asian scripts could’ve easily fixed this, like, in 5 min for the whole page. Anyways, else this is a great movie. Okay, bye!
To make a movie that killed thousands of people is deplorable ,the aftermath is so tragic I know it was war and it was bad on both sides but I just can’t unsee the images of children running around with their skin hanging from their bodies but this is just my opinion,I will not see this movie 😢😢
The movie didn't kill thousands of people though. Art many times helps to inform or remind society about these horrific things and inspire change. But just because a film depicts something doesn't mean it condones it and it's far from painting what Oppenheimer created or what the US did with it in any good light. It's almost a horror film in the way it approaches that part of the story.
So it's not deplorable, it's a haunting reminder of the world we now live in and the impact and horror that is nuclear weapons as well as technological change that have impact globally
not really a valid reason...but it's not life.
Emily Blunt so deserved the Oscar and Matt Damon was SERIOUSLY miscast!!!!!
gotta disagree....Damaon was awesome. He was very good...but the others had more to work.
I feel bad that you couldn't use the actual 'Can you hear the music' (probably due to copyright issues right?) . the alternative didn't sound so good
Nothing sounded good in place of it 😅
Yeah, the original masterpeice of a scene cannot be replaced by any aspect@@FrameVoyager
@@swastikdas9687 I listen to the soundtrack more than I care to admit 😅
I mean I have those soundtracks in my playlists along with other songs. Ludwig absolutely killed it with this movie@@FrameVoyager
@@swastikdas9687 this one and the new dune soundtrack here lately 😅
I utterly despised all of the intellectuals in this film aside from Dr. Lawrence (Josh Hartnett). He really seemed to 'get it' more than the others. He was the only other practical scientist in the film aside from Oppenheimer. The rest were all utterly nauseating from start to stop with their delusional Communist advocacy and false moral hand wringing.
Either build the bomb or don't- but don't join the Manhattan Project just to afford yourself a bigger platform to voice your moral outrage over it in the press afterwards. *I swear to God, some of those scientists seemed to follow this logic:*
"In order for me to be able to tell everyone nuclear weapons are abominations that should never be invented, I must first invent them! That'll give me the credibility for spending the rest of my life lecturing against them!"
I doubt the real Oppenheimer had such qualms of conscience because of his invention as is depicted in the movie. It’s a modern interpretation of the past which is heavily influenced by the current circumstances.
Read the book. 25 years of research. Won Pulitzer Prize for biography. Or…you can watch a documentary.