Zoe Hong sooo, I hope this means that you are going to contact the networks and pitch "Zoe's Real Fashion World" to them!! Maybe invite some of your youtube subbies on your show!! :D
😂😂😂 the "medical condition" I legit thought you were going a totally different direction and then you hit me with the eye roll! 😂😂😂😂 yes I too suffer from the same affliction.
Dude I totally feel you. I'm a tattoo artist, and my clients sometimes really lovingly tell me I should go on Ink Master... I just want to rant at them about how bullshit these competition shows and how they spread so much misinformation... but I get that they mean it as a compliment and just leave it alone.
PLEASE DO! I love project runway as a frivolous competition programme but I'm very aware that its also a load of bollocks, the production is focused towards creating drama and not about exposing genuine talent, and I think that the many incisive comments you made here would make for a great commentary of the show, and I would honestly pay to watch you dissect the task, clothes, the judges decisions and the weird melodrama. You already ripped the show to the bone (in a non-bitchy, constructive way) and I'd LOVE to see that applied to the show.
I use to be a designer for home decor, we did an entire campaign for Target, spent months working with their look book, design catalog and color plans, numerous trips to Hong Kong and mainland china, factory visits, sourcing trips,...buyer came in, took one look said "nope' and walked out.
next in fashion (netflix) is so much better ... the contestants are professionals and they are a lot more skilled. the contestants are friendly and the judges are friendly
AH! One of those brilliant moments when TH-cam recommends me a video out of nowhere and I actually LOVE IT! Great reasons. I really loved Season 2, but all the other seasons after that felt like they were trying to live up to it. Contestants coming in with prepared catch phrases, people trying to be "the Daniel/Santino/Andre/etc of Season [whatever]" It put the focus too much on the personalities & drama. Just sew something that will blow my mind, stop trying so hard to be somebody.
Okay, after watching you talk about not wanting to be on Project Runway, I think you HAVE TO GO on Project Runway, because I totally want to hear you yell at everybody about it. :)
I lived in a city that had a university with one of top fashion schools in the country, and the most stressful time for all of them was exams on pattern making. I don't look down on anyone in the creation of fashion. It's hard, and not as glamorous as people think.
I am glad you gave real answers to why you don't want to do a reality show and not the crap I've heard about just wanting to make it on your own, lol. I still love the show but I am sick of designers griping when they have to design for other than a size 2, have to do menswear or avant garde. Have they not seen the show? So annoying. Any way, Zoe, just discovered and subscribed!
I saw an ad for Project Runway, and that was all I needed to see. You're so right, they just perpetuate the negative stereotype of the melodramatic "chaotic creative" . It looks like a rubbish program to me.
Fashion people can be full of shit. When I went to fashion school I witnessed how egotistical our director's were. It was only their style that prevailed not ours and they love to pull the rug off our feet a lot. Im just happy doing cutom made dresses now and being my own boss.
You have very valid points. If you can't survive major or minor changes especially in the fashion industry. I can understand why you would but you would make a superb judge
Ii just stumbled across this video, but your point about "you cant choose your fabrics" and the chaos. I do commissions of custom garments where 90% of the time the customer chooses the fabrics and I just have to make it work. I made a garment out of a fabric that refused to press at all and needed to make bias binding out of it. Didn't press but I still made it work. i had a teacher who had a 5 min timer in drafting class who would slam the lid closed and immediately dock 10% when the timer went off. People complained profusely that they were only 10 seconds late, but that't how life works, you HAVE TO stick to deadlines. if you miss a deadline in the real world you could lose out on a crap ton of money not just marks.
It's funny you mention Rupaul's Drag Race, because drag queens get a similar thing: "You should go on Rupaul's Drag Race!" Now, many drag queens would LOVE to get on that show because it's instant fame and recognition, and if you play the exposure right, you can be a star beyond your local community for a long time. Although, while it IS a compliment, the implication is that its everyone's ultimate goal and it's the ONLY validation of your success. There are plenty who are legends already, performing regularly, making a great living, writing for TV, etc...and being on that show is just not something they want or need. Same for Project Runway. If you're working and happy in design you know how to do it to get out there and promote yourself to where you want to be. It doesn't HAVE to be through Project Runway. On another note, I enjoy you and your channel!
Before even watching this: 1) You have actual talent 2) You're an industry professional 3) The show has massively declined 4) There's a great quote from Willam Belli who did RuPauls Drag Race "Drag Race is about finding great reality stars who do drag", I imagine Project Runway operates in a similar vein and you seem like someone who is very above the bullshit
I feel like after the show moved to Lifetime (a decision that to this DAY I don't understand), there was a decline and it went downhill from even that.
Great video and great words to live by...."practice not magic"! I am not in fashion, but learning to draw...and practice, not magic, will make me better! Thanks Zoe!
I sooo agree with you the first couple of years of project runway was good it kinda focused on designs but now it's all about the drama not fashion. I lost interest in it a few years ago when some of the finalists made because of their drama not their talent. I'd rather watch your videos your awesome :)
Alot of people have said that the show is extremely staged and very fake, which is pretty true; it feels like you're watching a reality tv show and none of the winners have even really done anything substantial afterwards except for maybe Christian Siriano. Many designers went in with successful businesses before and winning or even going on just brought their business traffic and extra revenue. However, much of the fashion industry does not take the show seriously or those who win.
Honestly, after 12 years, any reality competition show is going to get old. The producers use the same formula that they perfected in season 3 or 4, and then they kill it to death. It happens to a bunch of shows. I have just gotten hooked on a show called the Great British Bake Off. The contestants are all amateurs and they certainly do get a bit overwhelmed by certain challenges, but I can say that a good 85% of the show is focused on the technique and process of making different desserts. I certainly learn new things after watching new episodes. Hopefully we'll get a fashion equivalent of that show model. And when we do, you'll definitely be the Bianca of that season and totally slay!
Michael Kors used to definitely give real industry responses at the critique (imho)...he would crack me up. He was trying to slap them into the real world. I love Project Runway, but I do realize that, in relation to the real world (the way most people "make it" or just live in it) it's like a show like the Voice or American...what was it called...oh yeah, American Idol. Real musicians don't do the Voice or American Idol. They do gigs, shop "tapes", do session work...
You're the most amazing,creative,funny person here on TH-cam. Your dedication to teaching and how in dept your tutorials are is a great help your channel has been to those of us who can't afford to pay for fashion school and have turned to the internet to learn. Thanks Zoe and screw the haters.
I love love love the way you take an issue and bring it into a bigger context. Very inspiring to hear about the many kinds of artists and how that ties into your thoughts on this show.
I think a fashion competition show focused on the craft could actually work and run, but not in the US. I think it would need to happen in the UK. Look at The Great British Bake Off, it's a baking competition show that is immensely popular and it focuses mostly on the art of baking with very little focus on the drama.
i looooove watching the show but i definitely can see why you wouldn't want to be on the show. i think the competitors are put on extreme pressure with so little sleep its honestly a little concerning. kinda like "the biggest loser" its reality tv show, not everything you see is real and the people on that show are put on incredibly unhealthy situations. im excited about your student though!!
I agree with everything you said! My mom wanted me to audition. I was like "HELL NO" haha. Anyway, you should do a video on how to sew and show different techniques and do's and don'ts while sewing.
Zoe, please update with a review of Next in Fashion and that weird new Tim Gunn/Heidi show on Amazon prime video. I loved your commentary and perspective on PR and I totally agree - I’m too sassy for TV lol...and anytime they have someone on panel with no design experience praising a paper bag over a ball gown I would just lose it 😂
I like your professionalism Zoe, I love following people who are very professional and experienced. We need more people like you in every field, honestly!!
I have met people, including one who is a designer, who work in fashion. Even they say that Project Runway isn't a true reflection of the fashion industry; fashion is a hard business. A lot of designers, including Michael Kors, usually end up in financial situations. In the old wholesales model, retailers would place an order, but not cough up the money until seasons later. It's financially hard to run a fashion line
I'm a local fashion designer and my friends are always like "audition for Project Runway!" but I show this to them every time. I'm too serious for Runway.
what you described as the ideal show would be like the Great British Bake-off fashion version and I for one WOULD love that! I hate the fake drama on project runway and I wish they only had real briefs from actual clients.
@@zoehongteaches he there is an actual show for sewers 😃 it’s the Great British sewing bee. I love that show as it actually focuses on proper sewing techniques
You definitely practice what you preach, that's what fascinates me with what you have to say and teach. Authenticity! And, most of all, I've learned a lot about fashion and the conceptual part of creating an artistic piece is something that's very much missing in the fashion design industry (at least what's mass produced for consumers) to a level that's very disrespectful to the world of Art.
You have to be one of the best TH-camrs I've ever come across Zoe. You're videos are so thorough and instructive, and talk about O.D HELPFUL!!! You are literally teaching me everything I've ever needed to know about fashion and I am very grateful for that, especially because it's free information! I am pursuing a degree in fashion design after spending years with my bachelors in studio art and not getting where I want to be still. Keep making these videos!!! 👍🏾👍🏾
Totally agree Zoe! Recognition and appreciation of Craftsmanship is greatly needed in our society. Everyone wants instant everything right now, from fame to noodles. Taking time to perfect a craft is an art! That needs to be recognized more. Its a beautiful thing when I see people who have mastered their craft.
I found you on my suggestions and I don't know why because I have not watched any videos that would relate to this topic. Ironically, I've always wanted to be a fashion designer, have an associate's on Fashion Merchandising (never finished the BA) and love design. My brother was an amazing designer who never took the next step because he passed away. I so agree with you about the fact that those characters are in every industry and Project Runway just perpetuates the stereotype. I stopped watching the show after the second or third season because I got tired of watching them all freak out when they had the real woman challenge. I have accused designers in the past of only designing for hangers (women that are so skinny and no curves that it is no challenge to make dresses for them). I always wanted to design but at 50 I gave up on my dream. I will say that you have a great personality. You had me cracking up with your comments and the comments about the Korean perspective and I subscribed so I a can live vicariously through you.
I like when you are explaining the industry and in the real industry they give you a challenge and we have quietly to handle it.I have done 4 internships to this point this is exactly what happens every single time. If in a busy moment anyone freaks out and gets melodramatic they are out of there and never come back. This is the reality. Fashion companies are busy with making money and preparing the next products to be shipped and on time for the buyers. So everyone works hard and do their part of the job without too much fuzz and buzz.
I actually had no idea about the specific fabric challenge being such a common thing in the fashion industry. I'll definitely watch the show with a more critical eye!
I would watch the show just because you could not keep you mouth shut!! And how you would deal would be priceless!!! You rock Zoe!! Thank you for your work!
Thanks Zoe I've been doing sketches for about 3 years but it didn't seem to lead me anywhere but I know I'm interested in designing thanks to your 2nd portfolio critique I realized that I do sketches and not actual design, I've always feel like something is missing my ideas are not real enough. I been watching a lot of fashion designers, influencers, n stylists but none ever explained a simple concept of design vs sketching to me thank u so much
I cant say this enough, I love you! You crack me up 50 times during each video. I understand you not wanting to be edited by someone else, but you would make the best TV. I am known as a professional eye roller also. So I get your outlook. Your knowledge is so vast, you would design those fools into the dirt!!!
I loved this. ❤️i have been asked so many times to audition but I dont want to be a character instead of focussing on my style and skills. It infuriates me how some of these people cannot even thread a machine or sew on knits or pattern make! Im like ummmm I thought this was a design competition.....?
Great Video.. just randomly popped up on suggested Videos"" I have 8+ years in the fashion industry-- you remind me of one of my co workers!!! Everything you said-- SO TRUE!
Rofl omg Zoe, you are soo right! I auditioned last year for this year's season and didn't make it, the challenges and no sleep don't bother me because that's the industry. The only thing that would bother me is being around other people who are so dramatic.
Zoe gurl. You said it yourself, it’s entertainment. Project Runway does not perpetuate the “chaotic creative”. It’s editing and stress from the 24 hour challenges. If you know it’s edited, then disregard the belied that chaotic creatives exist on that show. They can create a fake persona through contestants, but you and I and the industry knows it’s all fake. And even if they produce such personas, Who is it harming? You? It’s just a little annoying... that’s all. Breathe! Sweetheart. I’m sure you have a great deal of experience and you may have credibility and education, but please remember Project Runway is a Televised show which features competition and challenges... It’s a huge opportunity for unprivileged people who don’t have the resources or funds or exposure to help create their vision. Just like how you support your students or whatever, at least you’re aware of how valuable the reward is to win such a great competition. Imagine the win for a student. Also the challenges usually are within a 24 hour time frame, so even something as simple as swapping fabrics with other competitors CAN certainly be stressful. You should know how fabrics differ and can change a design drastically. And (*cough coughs) again, their whining and drama is all for viewers and entertainment. Project Runway doesn’t really do the whole fashion industry justice. But it’s a huge opportunity to win some cash, and push your small developing name out there. To me applying And competing on Project Runway is worth it! Why not? What do you have to lose? You have a chance to develop your dreams! I just applied and I hope I learn from the experience. I won’t let commerce cut my creativity. I want to learn so much. I really feel like the whole fashion pie chart is totally fucked up. I want to pave my own way. Fashion is cultural, philosophical, and shouldn’t be just money commerce and mass production. I have so much to learn. Also I enjoy your videos.
YOU IN THE SHOW WOULD BE A WIN WIN (+ your win), everybody would be like ~OMG that asian girl is reading everyone from head to toe~ it would be trending on twitter, you would have killed 4 contestants just by judging their work with your face I'D PAY 3 TIMES TO WATCH ONE EPISODE OF THAT
I get emails from them every year and I have so many people ask why I haven't applied....and yes, your reasons are the exact reasons I don't want to do it!
You are the best! I love your videos and want to learn everything you have to teach, and just hear your toughts about the fashion industry. Keep up ❤❤❤
I've never heard of you before, not into fashion and I FUCKING LUVES YOUUUUUUUUUUU! You are amazing and says it like it is.....props Miss Zoe❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Hey Ms. Hong, (I've only watched like 20 videos, i don't quite know you yet to call you Zoe) I was wondering if you have ever watched 'Making the cut' on Amazon Prime? In case you hadn't heard (which i doubt) Heidi and Tim Gunn (because he name must be said exactly like that) did a offshoot show, and not even 20 minutes into the show i would swear someone who designed the show saw this rant/critique and worked on fixing some stuff. I mean they are actually talking about tech packs. Anyway.... was just wondering if you had seen it, and if it was 'real' enough to not f*ck up your blood pressure as badly.
Hi Zoe, do you feel like project runway shows could be staged sometimes, like perhaps the winner is chosen before hand? Cause I watch some seasons and the winning designs and sometimes (mostly) not the fan favourites & the judges seem to give this take on everyone’s clothing but pick one to win that doesn’t match what they are looking for ?
I used to be a fan of Project Runway, but after they left Bravo, I fell out of the loop. I've been in the industry for 10 years, and I would have to agree that the portrayal of designers and the Fashion Industry is completely twisted. Designers in the industry don't do their own sewing and patternmaking, that's what sample sewers and pattern makers are for. I did like that other show "Fashion Star" which seemed a little more realistic, but I know that show was short lived. Anyway, love your videos and have a great day!
On the newest Season they have models of what they call "all sizes" for the first time. Is it actually that difficult/different to design for bigger women, or are they just being dramatic?
I do kinda agree with u. Project runway sure is Just for entertainment. Most of the candidates freak out on such small challenge. Im literally screaming. Lol.
Not sure of the accuracy but I did hear Santino Rice had said he was later very happy he was a runner up on the show due to a clause in the contract that entitled the Weinstein company to continuous royalties on anything the winner did after the show. TV is a great platform to present yourself to the world but with the shady practices and fake forced storylines alone, it takes away from any true talent showcased. You're not just a pretty face girl, you're intelligent too imo!
I LOVE the show, it is very entertaining! I love to see how the designers minds think. It is interesting to see what the judges opinions are. They are not always negative but some are very opinionated
I went to an art school that had a "fashion" section,but it was actually called textile. it was mainly split in two parts: One called "shaping clothes" (it gets lost in translation,i am from Macedonia),and another one "design of textile". The first was about different history of art and period clothes,and they would get like Egypt,and from studying the clothes worn there,a ne then through stages (4-5)much like you do it was transformed into fashionable clothes. the history periods were chronological. Drawing and e rendering of fashion figures were a part of that also. The other class was more like designing womens art deco scarf design,childrens bedding design... but also like embroidery,knitting.. the draw back was that they had very practical,industry experience except for some theatre costumes that they did every semester.what do you think about this? can you do a historical/period clothes transformed,or used for inspiration,and do you think that is a good way to start a design?
I don't think it matters much what kind of inspiration you start from, it's where you take it. You can give the same exact 10 inspiration images to to 10 designers and they'll each take it somewhere else because our brains and how we process and what kinds of things we like are all different. As long as you end up with something beautiful (whatever your version of beautiful is), something new, something your customer wants. In terms of using period clothes, as long as you make it look modern, it should be fine. During WWII, with fabric rations being so strict, many women took apart their grandmothers' dresses (so much fabric in those long gowns!) and restitched them in 40s silhouettes. No one really thinks about how they look like Belle Epoque because they don't--the WWII ladies thoroughly modernized the dresses.
Zoe Hong that's so interesting! I always learn a lot from you. I agree totally about the inspiration part, I guess I just wanted your opinion on how much do you think art/fashion history matters, is it an advantage to those who know or can reference it?
>>how much do you think art/fashion history matters, is it an advantage to those who know or can reference it? Knowledge is always an advantage, but how much it matters on a practical level depends on what kind of designer you are. Costume designers, of course it matters a lot, even if you focus on futuristic looks, you need an understanding of what came before. Designers who, for lack of better words, do simple, straightforward design, like active wear, yoga pants, business casual, stuff like that, I don't think really learning history will affect their aesthetic or approach much at all. So who should learn it? 1. Students or newer designers who are still exploring their own approach. Learning how silhouettes and techniques developed over the years and WHY and HOW they developed can go far in guiding someone to discover what they like, what they don't, and what they hope to achieve in design. 2. Designers who embrace technology within their clothing, because again, learning how technology has advanced and changed within design teaches us so much. Example, how the invention of stretch fabrics changed fashion. 3. Designers who are trying to deliver a message beyond aesthetic with their clothes. Our clothes and the way we wear them are steeped deep in visual codes. Fashion is a global industry that affects and is affected by politics, economics, tides in social change, the climate, EVERYTHING. There are painters who want to paint pretty pictures of flowers in a vase because they are pretty. There are painters who want to move you to emotion, to action. There's nothing wrong with either painter, it's how they want to give to the world. I'm rambling now, I need more coffee, but I think you get where I'm going.
I really dont know the industry yet i subbed i love your content i learning and im 13 yers old rn but once you fet farther in the season its just oof yah thanks i love you and your channel
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yes please lol, let it all out don't hold it in haha
Zoe Hong sooo, I hope this means that you are going to contact the networks and pitch "Zoe's Real Fashion World" to them!! Maybe invite some of your youtube subbies on your show!! :D
hahahahahahahahahaha~~
Zoe Hong Im serious!! Lol. I think it will be a hit!!! Just think it thru very carefully and go pitch that thang! :D
Yes, please!
Zoe: "I can't go on the show because I wouldn't be able to keep my mouth shut"
Me: *wants her to be on the show even more*
😂😂😂 the "medical condition" I legit thought you were going a totally different direction and then you hit me with the eye roll! 😂😂😂😂 yes I too suffer from the same affliction.
It's totally a real affliction, RIGHT? hahahahaha
I adore your honesty. "Shut up and get to work! " It's the way. That is how you separate the professionals from the amateurs.
Thank you.
Dude I totally feel you. I'm a tattoo artist, and my clients sometimes really lovingly tell me I should go on Ink Master... I just want to rant at them about how bullshit these competition shows and how they spread so much misinformation... but I get that they mean it as a compliment and just leave it alone.
>>but I get that they mean it as a compliment and just leave it alone.
Yes, with strangers, I mostly just smile and say, "Yeah, maybe."
OMG Please do a react video to some (any) Project Runway episode!! Please!!
hahahahahaha maybe
YESSS!
PLEASE DO! I love project runway as a frivolous competition programme but I'm very aware that its also a load of bollocks, the production is focused towards creating drama and not about exposing genuine talent, and I think that the many incisive comments you made here would make for a great commentary of the show, and I would honestly pay to watch you dissect the task, clothes, the judges decisions and the weird melodrama. You already ripped the show to the bone (in a non-bitchy, constructive way) and I'd LOVE to see that applied to the show.
just do a reaction to Michael Kor's best Project Runway quotes lmaoo
OK Zoe this is seriously something you should do 🎨🙃
maybe you should be a judge instead lol
Hahaha, that would be more fun than being a contestant.
I use to be a designer for home decor, we did an entire campaign for Target, spent months working with their look book, design catalog and color plans, numerous trips to Hong Kong and mainland china, factory visits, sourcing trips,...buyer came in, took one look said "nope' and walked out.
OOF! Ok, that would cause me to time out for some whining. OUCH OUCH OUCH
That would be so hard.
Are u still alive?
next in fashion (netflix) is so much better ... the contestants are professionals and they are a lot more skilled. the contestants are friendly and the judges are friendly
AH! One of those brilliant moments when TH-cam recommends me a video out of nowhere and I actually LOVE IT! Great reasons. I really loved Season 2, but all the other seasons after that felt like they were trying to live up to it. Contestants coming in with prepared catch phrases, people trying to be "the Daniel/Santino/Andre/etc of Season [whatever]" It put the focus too much on the personalities & drama. Just sew something that will blow my mind, stop trying so hard to be somebody.
>>Just sew something that will blow my mind, stop trying so hard to be somebody.
yesssssssssssssss
The eye rolling reason is just amazing! Hahaha
Look, I already suffered those eye problems earlier this year. Don't want that to happen again. heeheehee
Okay, after watching you talk about not wanting to be on Project Runway, I think you HAVE TO GO on Project Runway, because I totally want to hear you yell at everybody about it. :)
I lived in a city that had a university with one of top fashion schools in the country, and the most stressful time for all of them was exams on pattern making. I don't look down on anyone in the creation of fashion. It's hard, and not as glamorous as people think.
the great British sewing bee is more about the sewing, not so much about industry but a lot less about the fights and bitchyness
Karen1Nicola yes I know I love them both !!
i wish they'd bring it back thats what got me watching actual up to date tv lol
Yes , and everyone is so lovely and they help each other , without all the extra drama 💕
Love that show, it is hard to find episodes. Project Runway can be fun, but it is a whole lot of drama.
I am glad you gave real answers to why you don't want to do a reality show and not the crap I've heard about just wanting to make it on your own, lol. I still love the show but I am sick of designers griping when they have to design for other than a size 2, have to do menswear or avant garde. Have they not seen the show? So annoying. Any way, Zoe, just discovered and subscribed!
I saw an ad for Project Runway, and that was all I needed to see. You're so right, they just perpetuate the negative stereotype of the melodramatic "chaotic creative" . It looks like a rubbish program to me.
Fashion people can be full of shit. When I went to fashion school I witnessed how egotistical our director's were. It was only their style that prevailed not ours and they love to pull the rug off our feet a lot. Im just happy doing cutom made dresses now and being my own boss.
You have very valid points. If you can't survive major or minor changes especially in the fashion industry. I can understand why you would but you would make a superb judge
Ii just stumbled across this video, but your point about "you cant choose your fabrics" and the chaos. I do commissions of custom garments where 90% of the time the customer chooses the fabrics and I just have to make it work. I made a garment out of a fabric that refused to press at all and needed to make bias binding out of it. Didn't press but I still made it work.
i had a teacher who had a 5 min timer in drafting class who would slam the lid closed and immediately dock 10% when the timer went off. People complained profusely that they were only 10 seconds late, but that't how life works, you HAVE TO stick to deadlines. if you miss a deadline in the real world you could lose out on a crap ton of money not just marks.
I'm nodding emphatically to everything you just wrote.
It's funny you mention Rupaul's Drag Race, because drag queens get a similar thing: "You should go on Rupaul's Drag Race!" Now, many drag queens would LOVE to get on that show because it's instant fame and recognition, and if you play the exposure right, you can be a star beyond your local community for a long time. Although, while it IS a compliment, the implication is that its everyone's ultimate goal and it's the ONLY validation of your success. There are plenty who are legends already, performing regularly, making a great living, writing for TV, etc...and being on that show is just not something they want or need. Same for Project Runway. If you're working and happy in design you know how to do it to get out there and promote yourself to where you want to be. It doesn't HAVE to be through Project Runway. On another note, I enjoy you and your channel!
mattachine Vander Von Odd, Dragula winner, gave the best response in her Q&A to this question, scared everybody!! lol but i agree with this 100%
What's really insulting is when you've already BEEN on the show and some dumb person says "YOU SHOULD GO ON THAT DRAG QUEEN SHOW ABOUT DRAG QUEENS"
Before even watching this:
1) You have actual talent
2) You're an industry professional
3) The show has massively declined
4) There's a great quote from Willam Belli who did RuPauls Drag Race "Drag Race is about finding great reality stars who do drag", I imagine Project Runway operates in a similar vein and you seem like someone who is very above the bullshit
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I feel like after the show moved to Lifetime (a decision that to this DAY I don't understand), there was a decline and it went downhill from even that.
Great video and great words to live by...."practice not magic"! I am not in fashion, but learning to draw...and practice, not magic, will make me better! Thanks Zoe!
I sooo agree with you the first couple of years of project runway was good it kinda focused on designs but now it's all about the drama not fashion. I lost interest in it a few years ago when some of the finalists made because of their drama not their talent. I'd rather watch your videos your awesome :)
I think people love fashion enough that a show that featured real designers without the theatrics could still do well.
Alot of people have said that the show is extremely staged and very fake, which is pretty true; it feels like you're watching a reality tv show and none of the winners have even really done anything substantial afterwards except for maybe Christian Siriano. Many designers went in with successful businesses before and winning or even going on just brought their business traffic and extra revenue. However, much of the fashion industry does not take the show seriously or those who win.
it also realllyy cheapens fashion as a whole...
Honestly, after 12 years, any reality competition show is going to get old. The producers use the same formula that they perfected in season 3 or 4, and then they kill it to death. It happens to a bunch of shows. I have just gotten hooked on a show called the Great British Bake Off. The contestants are all amateurs and they certainly do get a bit overwhelmed by certain challenges, but I can say that a good 85% of the show is focused on the technique and process of making different desserts. I certainly learn new things after watching new episodes. Hopefully we'll get a fashion equivalent of that show model. And when we do, you'll definitely be the Bianca of that season and totally slay!
Michael Kors used to definitely give real industry responses at the critique (imho)...he would crack me up. He was trying to slap them into the real world. I love Project Runway, but I do realize that, in relation to the real world (the way most people "make it" or just live in it) it's like a show like the Voice or American...what was it called...oh yeah, American Idol. Real musicians don't do the Voice or American Idol. They do gigs, shop "tapes", do session work...
You're the most amazing,creative,funny person here on TH-cam. Your dedication to teaching and how in dept your tutorials are is a great help your channel has been to those of us who can't afford to pay for fashion school and have turned to the internet to learn. Thanks Zoe and screw the haters.
I love love love the way you take an issue and bring it into a bigger context. Very inspiring to hear about the many kinds of artists and how that ties into your thoughts on this show.
I think a fashion competition show focused on the craft could actually work and run, but not in the US. I think it would need to happen in the UK. Look at The Great British Bake Off, it's a baking competition show that is immensely popular and it focuses mostly on the art of baking with very little focus on the drama.
Great British Sewing Bee :)
S Cler absolutly!
i looooove watching the show but i definitely can see why you wouldn't want to be on the show. i think the competitors are put on extreme pressure with so little sleep its honestly a little concerning. kinda like "the biggest loser" its reality tv show, not everything you see is real and the people on that show are put on incredibly unhealthy situations. im excited about your student though!!
I'm excited about my student too! I just checked and they're not out yet! Woohoo!
I agree with everything you said! My mom wanted me to audition. I was like "HELL NO" haha. Anyway, you should do a video on how to sew and show different techniques and do's and don'ts while sewing.
Christopher Morales yaaaas agree 😩
There's this new fashion design series called "Next in Fashion" and I like it better than Project Runway.
THANK YOU for saying PR is entertainment, NOT the fashion industry. Great show, for entertainment :)
It's my first time here and I wasn't ready for the snark, 😂😂😂
Zoe you speak in such an informed way about fashion, if you did you would win hands down.
Being informed and winning a reality show competition don't really have anything to do with each other. Hahaha~
Zoe, please update with a review of Next in Fashion and that weird new Tim Gunn/Heidi show on Amazon prime video. I loved your commentary and perspective on PR and I totally agree - I’m too sassy for TV lol...and anytime they have someone on panel with no design experience praising a paper bag over a ball gown I would just lose it 😂
With the Tim/Heidi show do you mean Making The Cut?
The irony is that you'd be a way better fit as a guest judge😁😁
I like your professionalism Zoe, I love following people who are very professional and experienced. We need more people like you in every field, honestly!!
Dr. Fashion of hearts
I have met people, including one who is a designer, who work in fashion. Even they say that Project Runway isn't a true reflection of the fashion industry; fashion is a hard business. A lot of designers, including Michael Kors, usually end up in financial situations. In the old wholesales model, retailers would place an order, but not cough up the money until seasons later. It's financially hard to run a fashion line
I'm a local fashion designer and my friends are always like "audition for Project Runway!" but I show this to them every time. I'm too serious for Runway.
what you described as the ideal show would be like the Great British Bake-off fashion version and I for one WOULD love that! I hate the fake drama on project runway and I wish they only had real briefs from actual clients.
There have been a few ocmments recommending GBBO! I gotta go check it out!
@@zoehongteaches he there is an actual show for sewers 😃 it’s the Great British sewing bee. I love that show as it actually focuses on proper sewing techniques
I don't really know anything about fashion but I absolutely love watching your videos. You inspire me lol
You definitely practice what you preach, that's what fascinates me with what you have to say and teach. Authenticity! And, most of all, I've learned a lot about fashion and the conceptual part of creating an artistic piece is something that's very much missing in the fashion design industry (at least what's mass produced for consumers) to a level that's very disrespectful to the world of Art.
You have to be one of the best TH-camrs I've ever come across Zoe. You're videos are so thorough and instructive, and talk about O.D HELPFUL!!! You are literally teaching me everything I've ever needed to know about fashion and I am very grateful for that, especially because it's free information! I am pursuing a degree in fashion design after spending years with my bachelors in studio art and not getting where I want to be still. Keep making these videos!!! 👍🏾👍🏾
Totally agree Zoe! Recognition and appreciation of Craftsmanship is greatly needed in our society. Everyone wants instant everything right now, from fame to noodles. Taking time to perfect a craft is an art! That needs to be recognized more. Its a beautiful thing when I see people who have mastered their craft.
I found you on my suggestions and I don't know why because I have not watched any videos that would relate to this topic. Ironically, I've always wanted to be a fashion designer, have an associate's on Fashion Merchandising (never finished the BA) and love design. My brother was an amazing designer who never took the next step because he passed away.
I so agree with you about the fact that those characters are in every industry and Project Runway just perpetuates the stereotype. I stopped watching the show after the second or third season because I got tired of watching them all freak out when they had the real woman challenge. I have accused designers in the past of only designing for hangers (women that are so skinny and no curves that it is no challenge to make dresses for them).
I always wanted to design but at 50 I gave up on my dream. I will say that you have a great personality. You had me cracking up with your comments and the comments about the Korean perspective and I subscribed so I a can live vicariously through you.
I like when you are explaining the industry and in the real industry they give you a challenge and we have quietly to handle it.I have done 4 internships to this point this is exactly what happens every single time. If in a busy moment anyone freaks out and gets melodramatic they are out of there and never come back. This is the reality. Fashion companies are busy with making money and preparing the next products to be shipped and on time for the buyers. So everyone works hard and do their part of the job without too much fuzz and buzz.
OMG! Love you! You're double threat! Fashion and stand-up comedy! 😂😂😂
I actually had no idea about the specific fabric challenge being such a common thing in the fashion industry. I'll definitely watch the show with a more critical eye!
This was so instructive in so many ways. Thank you !
I would watch the show just because you could not keep you mouth shut!! And how you would deal would be priceless!!! You rock Zoe!! Thank you for your work!
I love love love your personality it is so real!
Thanks Zoe I've been doing sketches for about 3 years but it didn't seem to lead me anywhere but I know I'm interested in designing thanks to your 2nd portfolio critique I realized that I do sketches and not actual design, I've always feel like something is missing my ideas are not real enough. I been watching a lot of fashion designers, influencers, n stylists but none ever explained a simple concept of design vs sketching to me thank u so much
I cant say this enough, I love you! You crack me up 50 times during each video. I understand you not wanting to be edited by someone else, but you would make the best TV. I am known as a professional eye roller also. So I get your outlook. Your knowledge is so vast, you would design those fools into the dirt!!!
I think you are fabulous! And a big thank you for all you've shared here on YT! Keep being 'You' girl! I love people who are true to themselves!
Your hair looks very nice in this video
PLEASE REACT TO THE CURRENT STATE OF FASHION. IMO IT'S HORRID!! WHY DO WE ALL LOOK LIKE 80S NERDS AND HOMELESS?!
I loved this. ❤️i have been asked so many times to audition but I dont want to be a character instead of focussing on my style and skills. It infuriates me how some of these people cannot even thread a machine or sew on knits or pattern make! Im like ummmm I thought this was a design competition.....?
Great Video.. just randomly popped up on suggested Videos"" I have 8+ years in the fashion industry-- you remind me of one of my co workers!!! Everything you said-- SO TRUE!
Rofl omg Zoe, you are soo right! I auditioned last year for this year's season and didn't make it, the challenges and no sleep don't bother me because that's the industry. The only thing that would bother me is being around other people who are so dramatic.
You could possibly be a guest judge! That would be really interesting lol
hahahaha I love the theatrics! and everything is on point! hahaha Thank you for the inspiration Miss Zoe! Kudos!
Ugh. This is why I love you!
Zoe gurl.
You said it yourself, it’s entertainment.
Project Runway does not perpetuate the “chaotic creative”. It’s editing and stress from the 24 hour challenges. If you know it’s edited, then disregard the belied that chaotic creatives exist on that show. They can create a fake persona through contestants, but you and I and the industry knows it’s all fake. And even if they produce such personas, Who is it harming? You? It’s just a little annoying... that’s all.
Breathe!
Sweetheart. I’m sure you have a great deal of experience and you may have credibility and education, but please remember Project Runway is a Televised show which features competition and challenges...
It’s a huge opportunity for unprivileged people who don’t have the resources or funds or exposure to help create their vision. Just like how you support your students or whatever, at least you’re aware of how valuable the reward is to win such a great competition. Imagine the win for a student.
Also the challenges usually are within a 24 hour time frame, so even something as simple as swapping fabrics with other competitors CAN certainly be stressful. You should know how fabrics differ and can change a design drastically. And (*cough coughs) again, their whining and drama is all for viewers and entertainment.
Project Runway doesn’t really do the whole fashion industry justice. But it’s a huge opportunity to win some cash, and push your small developing name out there. To me applying And competing on Project Runway is worth it! Why not? What do you have to lose? You have a chance to develop your dreams! I just applied and I hope I learn from the experience.
I won’t let commerce cut my creativity. I want to learn so much. I really feel like the whole fashion pie chart is totally fucked up. I want to pave my own way. Fashion is cultural, philosophical, and shouldn’t be just money commerce and mass production.
I have so much to learn. Also I enjoy your videos.
Pls make more vids about how working in the fashion industry actually is... I'm very curious!😊😊
I fucking love this lady 🤣🤣 I've never been so inspired to go back to school and learn about fashion from her
YOU IN THE SHOW WOULD BE A WIN WIN (+ your win), everybody would be like ~OMG that asian girl is reading everyone from head to toe~ it would be trending on twitter, you would have killed 4 contestants just by judging their work with your face
I'D PAY 3 TIMES TO WATCH ONE EPISODE OF THAT
It was 330 in the am came across Zoe and she's so soothing! Subscribed
You're so amazing. Please can you recommend fashion books for beginners for me? For sketching, pattern making, dictionary etc. Thanks
Watch her Fashion Book Recommendations video!
th-cam.com/video/rlkh69nV7tk/w-d-xo.html
I get emails from them every year and I have so many people ask why I haven't applied....and yes, your reasons are the exact reasons I don't want to do it!
You are the best! I love your videos and want to learn everything you have to teach, and just hear your toughts about the fashion industry. Keep up ❤❤❤
I've never heard of you before, not into fashion and I FUCKING LUVES YOUUUUUUUUUUU! You are amazing and says it like it is.....props Miss Zoe❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks to your instructive videos I developed a interested on the fashion world and I’m currently working on my portfolio
I honestly love listening to your videos while i design. You are very soothing. Almost like you rant for me lol.
Your personality gives me life xxx
FYI you look amazing love! Also those glasses are super cute :)
I just realized you were talking about Brandon and I totally get why you said the world needs to see their work
Hey Ms. Hong, (I've only watched like 20 videos, i don't quite know you yet to call you Zoe) I was wondering if you have ever watched 'Making the cut' on Amazon Prime? In case you hadn't heard (which i doubt) Heidi and Tim Gunn (because he name must be said exactly like that) did a offshoot show, and not even 20 minutes into the show i would swear someone who designed the show saw this rant/critique and worked on fixing some stuff. I mean they are actually talking about tech packs. Anyway.... was just wondering if you had seen it, and if it was 'real' enough to not f*ck up your blood pressure as badly.
I seriously doubt anyone involved with MTC saw this. They were probably working on things they felt they got wrong on PR. hahahaha~
Hi Zoe, do you feel like project runway shows could be staged sometimes, like perhaps the winner is chosen before hand? Cause I watch some seasons and the winning designs and sometimes (mostly) not the fan favourites & the judges seem to give this take on everyone’s clothing but pick one to win that doesn’t match what they are looking for ?
What lipgloss/lipstick do you use? It's gorgeous
It's Peripera Lip Tint Water with clear gloss on top.
I used to be a fan of Project Runway, but after they left Bravo, I fell out of the loop. I've been in the industry for 10 years, and I would have to agree that the portrayal of designers and the Fashion Industry is completely twisted. Designers in the industry don't do their own sewing and patternmaking, that's what sample sewers and pattern makers are for. I did like that other show "Fashion Star" which seemed a little more realistic, but I know that show was short lived. Anyway, love your videos and have a great day!
This is kinda eyeopeing. I used to watch project runway alot. But it grew old for me. I think ur adorable Zoe
On the newest Season they have models of what they call "all sizes" for the first time. Is it actually that difficult/different to design for bigger women, or are they just being dramatic?
Omg zoe u inspire me so much
I am rolling my eye at you and almost ruined my eyes :D from a melodramatic fashion industry professional to another.
I do kinda agree with u. Project runway sure is Just for entertainment. Most of the candidates freak out on such small challenge. Im literally screaming. Lol.
I love your channel b/c you keep it real true honest and you love what you do. This is not for entertainment this is to lLEARN.
Love this video!! I also work in the industry and can't watch project runway for the same reasons. :DD
Thank you for your honesty and making me laugh
Totally agreed with everything you said!!! That's why I like the CFDA fashion funds more.
Not sure of the accuracy but I did hear Santino Rice had said he was later very happy he was a runner up on the show due to a clause in the contract that entitled the Weinstein company to continuous royalties on anything the winner did after the show. TV is a great platform to present yourself to the world but with the shady practices and fake forced storylines alone, it takes away from any true talent showcased. You're not just a pretty face girl, you're intelligent too imo!
OMG I was laughing my ass off throughout the entire video!!!! Love you Zoe!
I LOVE the show, it is very entertaining! I love to see how the designers minds think. It is interesting to see what the judges opinions are. They are not always negative but some are very opinionated
I get it Zoe, well said.
who was your past student???
Ok girl u don't wanna go on project runway u did made a good point project runway is entertainment.
I went to an art school that had a "fashion" section,but it was actually called textile. it was mainly split in two parts: One called "shaping clothes" (it gets lost in translation,i am from Macedonia),and another one "design of textile". The first was about different history of art and period clothes,and they would get like Egypt,and from studying the clothes worn there,a ne then through stages (4-5)much like you do it was transformed into fashionable clothes. the history periods were chronological. Drawing and e rendering of fashion figures were a part of that also. The other class was more like designing womens art deco scarf design,childrens bedding design... but also like embroidery,knitting.. the draw back was that they had very practical,industry experience except for some theatre costumes that they did every semester.what do you think about this? can you do a historical/period clothes transformed,or used for inspiration,and do you think that is a good way to start a design?
I don't think it matters much what kind of inspiration you start from, it's where you take it. You can give the same exact 10 inspiration images to to 10 designers and they'll each take it somewhere else because our brains and how we process and what kinds of things we like are all different. As long as you end up with something beautiful (whatever your version of beautiful is), something new, something your customer wants.
In terms of using period clothes, as long as you make it look modern, it should be fine. During WWII, with fabric rations being so strict, many women took apart their grandmothers' dresses (so much fabric in those long gowns!) and restitched them in 40s silhouettes. No one really thinks about how they look like Belle Epoque because they don't--the WWII ladies thoroughly modernized the dresses.
Zoe Hong that's so interesting! I always learn a lot from you. I agree totally about the inspiration part, I guess I just wanted your opinion on how much do you think art/fashion history matters, is it an advantage to those who know or can reference it?
>>how much do you think art/fashion history matters, is it an advantage to those who know or can reference it?
Knowledge is always an advantage, but how much it matters on a practical level depends on what kind of designer you are. Costume designers, of course it matters a lot, even if you focus on futuristic looks, you need an understanding of what came before. Designers who, for lack of better words, do simple, straightforward design, like active wear, yoga pants, business casual, stuff like that, I don't think really learning history will affect their aesthetic or approach much at all.
So who should learn it? 1. Students or newer designers who are still exploring their own approach. Learning how silhouettes and techniques developed over the years and WHY and HOW they developed can go far in guiding someone to discover what they like, what they don't, and what they hope to achieve in design. 2. Designers who embrace technology within their clothing, because again, learning how technology has advanced and changed within design teaches us so much. Example, how the invention of stretch fabrics changed fashion. 3. Designers who are trying to deliver a message beyond aesthetic with their clothes. Our clothes and the way we wear them are steeped deep in visual codes. Fashion is a global industry that affects and is affected by politics, economics, tides in social change, the climate, EVERYTHING. There are painters who want to paint pretty pictures of flowers in a vase because they are pretty. There are painters who want to move you to emotion, to action. There's nothing wrong with either painter, it's how they want to give to the world. I'm rambling now, I need more coffee, but I think you get where I'm going.
I really dont know the industry yet i subbed i love your content i learning and im 13 yers old rn but once you fet farther in the season its just oof yah thanks i love you and your channel