Update: Mad Catz is back from the dead! Well, they're back in the sense that the brand was acquired by a manufacturing firm in China that used to build certain Mad Catz devices. They've also been restructured under new management than the old Mad Catz completely and that is probably for the best. Doesn't seem like they're doing fight sticks anymore either, at least not yet. www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-01-04-mad-catz-returns-under-new-management
I'm really glad... yeah, most mad catz things i own are crappy, but they are part of my childhood and i could never have played coop Halo without their cheap-ass controller.
i feel like every kid had the experience of being in the game store with your mom to buy a new controller, and you want the OEM one, but your mom sees the mad catz and says you have to get it instead because its cheaper. no kid ever intentionally bought these things, we just endured them.
I had a blue one and I also had this really cool looking mad catz controller for ps1 that looked like a boomerang and had this rapid fire switch on it that I would use for N20. That's the only way I beat that game. That controller was useless for anything else
The Mad catz Speaker mic for the original Xbox was actually the longest working mic I had for that gen and next gen console. one very underrated product they put out.
Well, you also have to remember that back in the late 80s going into the 90s, many of us gamers were kids. We had no money of our own. Even if your parents were awesome enough to not get you engaged in the console wars (I was lucky to have a SNES Genesis and PC, I was actually kinda poor... But how that came about was another story), the reality is, the OEM peripherals could still be expensive. So, parents would end up getting the cheaper 3rd party açcessories. Mainly because of the expense and not knowing better. Come the 6th gen or so, many of us had our own jobs at last. So many of us would just buy OEM, since we knew better. Mad Catz had to go niche because of this. Hell, I have a 4 year old now who is starting to play vidya. You think I want to use a 3rd party controller for her, my wife, or myself? It literally came down to a huge change in who was actually purchasing the products.
ISHERWOOD75 they had a bad reputation in 99 with me. I got a steering wheel for Gran Turismo 1. It sucked, it was too sensitive. You turn the wheel a little i turned all the way no way to correct your steering
Mad Catz is dead? That's oddly kind of sad. I mean, I always hated their controllers and accessories, but they just seem like a huge part of my childhood.
Great vid. This is the only channel (ive seen) that actually went into the history and reason for the bankruptcy of mad cats instead of showing a list of wacky controllers they made.
Thanks! It is precisely because of those lists that I wanted to make this episode. Nothing wrong with a vapid list every so often of course, but there are more fascinating aspects to their story than just "lulz the player 2 controller."
Couldn't have said it better! It is also the best vid I've seen on this channel so far. Earned my "Sub" now. One thing not mentioned is that they were far behind in creating the Star Citizen controllers - that just vanished into thin air and even Cloud Imperium Games allegedly never heard from Saitek (then still under Mad Catz) how they are coming along. CIG still hopes that Logitech follows through with the production.
Mad Catz controllers weren't great but it's kind of sad that they are gone. I think they went wrong by relying on Rockband so heavily. Never put all your eggs in one basket.
They did have some legit mobile controllers, and their mini controllers were great for toddlers...ish. I wasn't one to tell quality of a product when I used an OG PlayStation mini controller from them
Robert T Yeah, they probably got into debt because they made way too many products. The Rat gaming mice were awesome. Honestly, as a consumer I thought that they were primarily focusing on enthusiast PC stuff for the past few years. I feel like they could still be around if that was their plan.
Omg yeah, I have the MMo7, I don't even use it yet, waiting for a new pc build to hook it up. This really does bum me out, some of my favorite products were by mad catz =/ I literally just found out about the MMO and Rat series mice last year... My heart feels heavy.
LOL I couldn't stop laughing at the player 2 comments, it is so true. Giving your friend the crappy controller was all part of the home-field advantage lol.
Jeez, I thought $60 for a new DualShock 4 was too much! The DS4 that came with my PS4 is the only one I have, and seeing as how it's not doing so hot, I really need a new one. Which I can't afford. Still, I can't be too mad about the price. If I had created such a masterpiece, such a perfect controller, I'd probably charge a lot for it, too.
I had many of those gameboy abominations, they saved me so often kids today don't know the struggle of needing to change batteries and find good lighting.
ikr, try playing Boktai, at any time either you've gone blind from glare, or you're gettting fucked over because you're not close enough to sunlight, it can be mitigated with a GBA SP and a blacklight, but damn, the GB(C) were even worse, I remember vaguely the hell of trying to find proper lighting to play Pokemon/Rolans Curse II. Also I'm pretty sure, you literally cannot play Hey You Pikachu without a mic, I had to plug in a generic garbage PC mic to the adapter to get anywhere.
The only reason why I remember Mad Catz is because I have a GameCube memory card from them that I've had for a little over 15 years. It doesn't have my original save data for a lot of my games anymore, but the fact that I still have my childhood memory card from them speaks volumes to me. When I heard they were going out of business, I was sad.
I had a GC controller and a 16x size GC memory card that both served me well, way better than they had any right to. I salute you Mad Catz, not everyone is as pleased with your products as I was, but you served me quite well, and Im thankful for that.
Wow. Had no idea they filed for bankruptcy. Working at Target in the electronics dept and afterwards as a GameStop manager their reputation definitely followed them for the 15 years I was in retail. I still have two of their Street Fighter Fightsticks. Those were rock solid.
That's because Sanwa made the stick and buttons for the fight sticks (tournament editions / TE2 / etc), MadCatz had their own parts for the cheaper models and they were garbage.
It's a relief seeing one more episode of Tech Tales. Also, it's sad to see that Mad Catz went bankrupt. Last but not least, 1987 doesn't feel like 30 years ago to me, wow!
Man I freaking LOVE LGR. I watch atleast 5 videos a day. I've almost seen every episode. Seriously. Thanks brother for the amazing videos. Love the nostalgia.
Their Original Xbox controllers were insanely good. Especially their wireless micro-controller, it was smaller than the S-controller and moved the black and white buttons to the shoulders.
Actually, that sounds really good. There's nothing more infuriating than having the aircraft yaw controls in GTA on the black and white buttons. Let's just say that that particularly ergonomic deficiency was worked around with some creative helicopter piloting.
I remember having an original Xbox Mad Catz controller I used to play with. It had shorter triggers than the standard. Making split screen Slayer on Halo 2 unfair for others >:)
Amen dude. I had the same controller you described. The action worked pretty good until the controller started falling apart. The sticks would lose responsiveness and the dead zone will grow bigger and bigger.
Hardrockfan21 I had their PS1/2 controllers as a kid. the shape was different but I recall no problems - which they gave me the kind of advantage yours did lol
I have an of Xbox controller from mad catz it's see through white with yellow. I Like it cuz it's big like the Duke but doesn't have the buttons like in a weird position. It's cool
Oh is *THAT* why I liked my unofficial Xbox controller so much for Halo 2... I kinda feel mean now, rofl. I even placed decently in a tournament on release night for Halo 2 using that thing..
Mad Catz was the highest quality of the low quality imo. They made wireless xbox original controllers that were ok. They at LEAST gave us an option, despite not being the best.
Yeah their stuff was hit, or miss, like the cables, and memory cards being very well made for the price, but most of their controllers not so much so sadly.
I feel like controllers are just harder to get right because of the moving parts, cables etc. There's so much feel to a controller, from the texture, shape and press of the buttons to the overall weight of it.
What's wild is that I had the "abomination" full GBC accessory set but none of it had madcatz branding. In fact I recognized a bunch of products that I didn't know were madcatz the whole time
Mad Catz arcade fight sticks were great. I happen to have their TE2, which is amazing. Arcade stick manufacturers today don't offer the same type of customization they offered, so I miss them dearly.
I was definitely waiting for this one. God I hated my friends for getting Mad Cats controllers and shoving them off on me. Only controller I ever got that wasn't from the console manufacturer was a logitech wireless controller for the original xbox, that thing still works to this day, solid controller.
Yeah old Logitech controllers were indestructible. Still using the Chillstream from 2007 or so as my main gamepad. It has a fan that blows the sweat off your hands, most comfortable thing ever. Would be actually a good fit for Oddware, one of few "gimmick" controllers that's actually good.
the only thing from Mad Katz I own is a white GameCube Controller. I bought it before the bankruptcy, so, well, we both have pieces of technology of a company no more.
Only thing I ever used Mad Catz controllers for was the turbo function (if they had it) during a couple of game events that required a lot of button mashing. The turbo function repeated hitting the last button you pressed along with the turbo button until you cancelled it. It was useful during mini-events or certain Mario Party games.
I remember the wireless Xbox controllers, funny to say I liked them better than the Microsoft ones because my brother always pulled the wired ones out.
I hated that at first, was super used to the buttons being there and the change just didn't sit well with me for years. I still think the buttons being so close to your thumb are a good idea.
I had two mad catz wireless controllers one clear and one black, I preferred the black because it had a duplicate of the black and white buttons above the left and right trigger buttons like the left and right bumper buttons on the 360 controllers. Unfortunately I lost them in a move.
Related to wireless and Mad Catz, I had issues with my Gamecube not powering on correctly and called the Nintendo hotline to troubleshoot. It ended up being the Mad Catz controller I had (Actually featured at 5:13) called the micro or something. But the technical support lady told me that the wireless Wavebird controllers were not licensed by Nintendo and recommended to not use them either.. even though they were designed and sold by Nintendo. Never bought Mad Catz again though
Recently I grabbed my PS1 to play some games, looked around for the controllers and the only one I found was the Mad Catz Dual Force 2 Pro controller. Had some flashbacks of playing with it a lot and man, it's probably the best controller I've played with in the recent years. Sure it's in need of some restoration being old and well used, but the sticks are amazing, stiff and precise with tight centering spring.
Same here! I had both a memory card (which corrupted much quicker than my other cards) and a purple Gamecube controller made by them that broke. My sister dropped it on the floor one day and the controller wouldn't stop vibrating when plugged in. Button inputs didn't work either after that >.
I still have a couple of Madcatz ps2 memory cards. They still work. Younger sister had one of those gawdy looking orange ps2 controllers, pretty sure she still has it because it actually had a turbo function.
@@OneBasedGod they allow you to hold the button down to rapidly repeat a function, like jumping. Rather than tap the button repeatedly, you could just hold it down to jump continuously.
Intriguing and amazingly well written as always Clint! I never get distracted or go from full-screen when I'm watching one of your Tech Tales videos, your writing really shines with these; always keeps me interested, perfect pacing.
@ 3:20 I picked that Saturn pad up at a thrift store, having never heard of "High Frequency". Just assumed it was some unofficial or bootleg thing, but now I know. Thank you for teachin' me stuff, LGR!
sephirothdawn2 I remember many months before Ties That Bind came out i was nearly all the time on the games website waiting on any new game images and the like. Lets just say i was super hyped for it and i enjoyed it quite a lot actually; as much as the original suffering. Oddly the only thing that threw me off from Ties is doctor killjoys voice sounds pitched up and overall sounds off. Other than that its a great game and the original too.
I actually had their MicroCon for Gamecube, enjoyed it a lot. Same for the AirFlo for PS2. The air flow was a BOON to me during my long gaming sessions, the fans inside helped me not sweat on the controller.
Whenever my old friends would have a halo get together (back when split screen was a thing), I'd always try not to be the last person to get to his house. As you'd expect, the fourth controller he had was a Mad Catz brand.
Mad Catz was a huge part of my gaming life as a child. I still have two GameCube memory cards and and RCA switcher for my TV, and they all work just as well as they did when my parents got them 15 years ago.
4:48 I had that Dreamcast controller. It was actually quite good, and it lasted for as long as I used the console. But all the other mad catz controllers I had ALWAYS developed a heavy bias in their analog sticks, which made them useless.
I have a couple of Mad Catz wireless xbox controllers that were made with the same tech as the wireless gamecube controllers. Considering the fact that microsoft never made a wireless controller for the original box, it's pretty cool that mad catz did it.
Snick Snack not every product they made was bad. Although in 99 i got one for Gran Turismo 1 and it was so sensitive i turn the wheel a little and it turned all the way took it back to Wal Mart exchanged it, same thing. I couldn't get a refund because it was Christmas present didn't have receipt lol.
They had a really good PS2 controller with the 4 bumper buttons in just the right place for piloting AC's In Armored Core 3. I used it to SPANK people's asses in that game!
@@PANZERFAUST90 Hey now, I went to public school, and I turned out alright. But if you don't have a brain to begin with, school's not gonna help, anyway. I'm bad at math, though. But that's kinda like dyslexia, just with numbers. I mean, I can do basic stuff, and I'm pretty decent with that. But then I reach a certain level of math, and then my brain just goes "Nope", lol. 😂😂😂
Their PS2 memory cards were also a boon to people who had just got the system because there was a shortage of the official Sony ones for a good while at the time. We didn't care who made it as long as it worked right and that's one of Mad Catz's few stellar products of the time.
Agreed I've had the same MadCatz GameCube memory card since late 04 that still works, and recently found another at a Goodwill that has data on it from 06 that still works, while I had an official Nintendo GameCube memory card crap out on me in less then 7 months back in 04.
That intro is way too true... We always had the mad catz controller as the backup for when friends came over (and indeed the one I used when my older sister played with me XD)
I still have that N64 controller in the thumbnail, as well as that turbo NES controller!! _And_ the "High Frequency" Genesis controller, but it was a six-button!
I actually loved my mad catz controllers, my brother and I would use them even when we had the original ones. I guess we just liked how they lit up and had a pretty intense rumble feature. Like it would make my hands go numb from how hard it would shake.
smokeydops you'll just have to order the generic copy directly yourself on ebay from China instead of madcats doing this, rebranding, and selling to you for more lmao
my old mad catz n64 controller was the only thing to stand the hardcore abuse i put it through during 1000's of hours of super smash bros. and still works to this day
I had this Mad Catz MMO mouse. It was so awesome. Pinky rest that you could swap out. Adjustable palm rest. Of course the weights like everyone else but they could actually be felt. Took 4 years before that mouse died. Got me through many character level grinds. May you rest in a dump somewhere Mad Catz MMO Mouse.
Been a R.A.T. 7 user since 2010. Regardless of what everyone said about the twin laser design and the easy-target aesthetics, it was by and large the best mouse I've ever owned. It form fits most any hand size and shape, and my... GOD... the pinky rest. You have not lived until you've used their R.A.T. pinky rest. My original finally needed to be replaced about three months ago (really, just the side buttons were starting to go, a staple of many game macros of mine), and of course I sprung for another R.A.T. 7. It was a bit rough to track one down due to the bankruptcy, but it was well worth it. Here's to another seven years of service with a fantastic mouse from a legendary, sometimes dubiously so, company.
3:16 I actually have that SNES controller and it's one of the BEST ones I've ever used. Kind of wish the d pad was more standard, but the buttons are super responsive, the extra l and r help, and turbo is a blessing.
I feel like I definitely had MadCatz controllers for my PS2 and/or XBOX back as a little kid. I definitely remember that little logo looking so strange against the professional-look of the controller itself.
I had one of those steering wheels at [3:18] as a ~10 year old, only mine had red highlights (I assume a different version? Single Force? :P ) for my PlayStation. One Christmas I got a stereo system that came in a decent-sized box, so I cut a flap in the front to sit the pedals in, and taped the wheel to the top. It lasted at least a few years, which if nothing else, is a testament to high-quality 90's cardboard manufacturing.
The FGC moved on easily with Razer, Hori, and others making fine arcade sticks. Honestly there wasn't anything special about Mad Catz arcade sticks. They were just a box, design, and logo but all the components were third party and can be purchased online and put into most arcade stick boxes. You could easily make your own. Sucks to see them go though. I am used to MCZ Tokido and MCZ Daigo.
The R.A.T.7 mouse is probably one of the things I regret the most spending money on. I bought it cause it looked all futuristic and cool, but it ended up breaking after less than a year of use, and just started randomly turning off, causing my computer to bluescreen and causing all kinds of havoc.
I had one too and it worked pretty well for at least 6 months until one day it just stopped working and i never managed to figure out how to fix it so i threw it away. Annoying because it cost be about £60. Now i use a Nemesis Kata mouse which i got for £15, it has a simple comfortable design and works brilliantly. I'll never buy an expensive mouse ever again!
Made the same mistake here. Bought a RAT9 Because of the futuristic style and the "Great Wireless technologies" that it had. The mouse pointer started flicking all over the damn screen for no apparent reason and the batteries died one year after i bought it, just out of the warranty period. There was nothing in the sensor nor was there anything wrong with the computer. 110 dollars down the drain.
I just want to point out that LGR is a trooper to the TH-cam world by doing what he loves, what we love - in such great/nostalgic taste all without a single AD. LGR!
The only good thing about Madcatz were those fight sticks. They were considered one of the best sticks in the market. Now Razer has taken its place in the stick market, it isn't as one-sided as Mad Catz domination in the FGC.
you can still find the drivers. I found the ones for my rat 5 after about an hour. smart-technology-programming-software.software.informer.com/ here you go for the makros
ahh now i got it. You mean hadware upgrade. I thought your software was missing. I must say the rat 5 is like the 7 but without the modular part, but man its a nice mouse.
I have to say the Mad Catz R.A.T. 6 mouse is by far the best quality mouse I've ever owned, and the only one to last longer than about a year and a half. When I was younger, however, they were synonymous with subpar quality lol.
I remember when I was 11/12 having a mad catz controller with fans to keep the palms cool, and I still have a gun they sold for xbox that I bought for house of the dead 3, and I thought it was so cool, you would put the memory card where the clip would go. I also have and still use a wireless controller they sold. Loved mad catz stuff felt a little cheap at times but it did look cool!
I just took apart a grimy Mad Catz GameCube controller and yeah it is hella cheap inside. I did pick up one of their genesis controllers with the turbo sliders recently. Looks like it was never used. I remember having a clear blue PS controller of theirs. It used to shock me occasionally but it was not designed to do that like that one with the pads.
I used the Rock Band guitar as a midi controler to record some sweet lute rifs in my music. I'd say that Mad Catz Rock Band guitar controller is one of the most useful midi controllers out there. It maybe wasn't intended for that use but I think it's a simple but quality product.
Yep, you just have to finds the hidden gems in their bulk of crap like the memory cards, cables, Rat mice, and Arcade sticks are still worth picking up even 2nd hand.
i actually feel like you gave this company more credit than they deserved. some good fight sticks cannot erase over a decade of the shittiest products anyone has ever used. i usually feel bad when u explain how a company dies..but in this case fuck mad catz!
Ahh, MadCatz made one of the only 3rd party things I had growing up, a gamecube memory card that contained some preloaded cheats. I still have it, and it still works.
For christmas 2016, my partner of the time bought me a Mad Catz S.T.R.I.K.E 7 keyboard (I'd picked it out, and covered the shipping & import duties from the US) - initially it was quite good (despite the latest drivers available at the time not being signed for Windows 10 x64), and I certainly liked the programability of it's touchscreen LCD, but after a while it tended to get rather unstable rather quickly (firmware crashes, particularly when playing certain games - most of which didn't even use any MC APIs, go figure)... Moved it to my work Win7 PC, where it lasted another year and a spit before getting unstable there too - been boxed for the last couple of months
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Update: Mad Catz is back from the dead! Well, they're back in the sense that the brand was acquired by a manufacturing firm in China that used to build certain Mad Catz devices. They've also been restructured under new management than the old Mad Catz completely and that is probably for the best. Doesn't seem like they're doing fight sticks anymore either, at least not yet.
www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-01-04-mad-catz-returns-under-new-management
Lazy Game Reviews just about to tell you the same, thanks for keeping up...😉😉
Damn, with the quickness LGR!
Cool!
I'm really glad... yeah, most mad catz things i own are crappy, but they are part of my childhood and i could never have played coop Halo without their cheap-ass controller.
The Life and Death of MadCatz - then came their Resurrection!
Very much like the storyline in many videogames. Very poetic, if I may say so :)
i feel like every kid had the experience of being in the game store with your mom to buy a new controller, and you want the OEM one, but your mom sees the mad catz and says you have to get it instead because its cheaper. no kid ever intentionally bought these things, we just endured them.
Guts yep
Pretty much..
Yeah they suck. The annoying friend would always get the mad catz controller during a 4 player smash tournament
although the more expensive line, the R.A.T was one of the better bluetooth mice out there
So true
my mad cats ps2 memory card hasnt let me down in 17 years and i always thought it looked cooler the the standard ones
Bunsen I remember that memory card, the see through blue one
I get a new madcatz memory card for ps1 month ago)
Fer sherr
Same but instead of PS2 it was GameCube
I had a blue one and I also had this really cool looking mad catz controller for ps1 that looked like a boomerang and had this rapid fire switch on it that I would use for N20. That's the only way I beat that game. That controller was useless for anything else
The Mad catz Speaker mic for the original Xbox was actually the longest working mic I had for that gen and next gen console. one very underrated product they put out.
Agreed that thing was a beast
I like how when a company goes from being absolute crap to starting to make good products, they go bankrupt.
ISHERWOOD75 they're never able to shake off the stigma from their earlier products.
Well, you also have to remember that back in the late 80s going into the 90s, many of us gamers were kids. We had no money of our own. Even if your parents were awesome enough to not get you engaged in the console wars (I was lucky to have a SNES Genesis and PC, I was actually kinda poor... But how that came about was another story), the reality is, the OEM peripherals could still be expensive. So, parents would end up getting the cheaper 3rd party açcessories. Mainly because of the expense and not knowing better.
Come the 6th gen or so, many of us had our own jobs at last. So many of us would just buy OEM, since we knew better. Mad Catz had to go niche because of this. Hell, I have a 4 year old now who is starting to play vidya. You think I want to use a 3rd party controller for her, my wife, or myself?
It literally came down to a huge change in who was actually purchasing the products.
That 360 avatar is fucking me up
ISHERWOOD75 they had a bad reputation in 99 with me. I got a steering wheel for Gran Turismo 1. It sucked, it was too sensitive. You turn the wheel a little i turned all the way no way to correct your steering
@@PillsforSleep I started crying
as a impoverished child with siblings
the affordability was a godsend, if they were any more expensive we would have never been able to play together
PS2 Gaming in the 2000's for me as well.
Mad Catz is dead? That's oddly kind of sad. I mean, I always hated their controllers and accessories, but they just seem like a huge part of my childhood.
that's what I was thinking, it was always in the background.
.... i was wondering if that would be a good idea to make a poop on....
a what?
Yeah, the older controllers were nice... And then they went to shit.
It's another sad reminder of the decline of local multiplayer.
You know where you stand at your friends house if they give you a mad catz controller
this!! right fucking here! is the first thing i think of when i hear mad catz..
It's only polite to give your guest the good controller.
I always used madcatz controller as first,my brother used the original controller for the game cube i don't want him to feel ashame.
On port 4, trying to make the best of a double-thick one-prong N64 pad.
So true but get a Mad Catz or generic but if it was me I’ll be play on your own not playing with no f-up controller 😂
Great vid. This is the only channel (ive seen) that actually went into the history and reason for the bankruptcy of mad cats instead of showing a list of wacky controllers they made.
Thanks! It is precisely because of those lists that I wanted to make this episode. Nothing wrong with a vapid list every so often of course, but there are more fascinating aspects to their story than just "lulz the player 2 controller."
Couldn't have said it better! It is also the best vid I've seen on this channel so far. Earned my "Sub" now. One thing not mentioned is that they were far behind in creating the Star Citizen controllers - that just vanished into thin air and even Cloud Imperium Games allegedly never heard from Saitek (then still under Mad Catz) how they are coming along. CIG still hopes that Logitech follows through with the production.
JayHarring The Gaming historian Is a good Chanel
JayHarring also how he mentioned they did have good products like the street fighter fight pads
JayHarring superpad 64 was the best
"Cash-in on the Ouya."
*Oh no.*
Oh yeah!!!!! Kool aid man
OUYA was pretty neat ngl
Soulja game console?
Game filip is where it's at
@@ElTwOJaY
perfect for children with no necks!
Mad Catz controllers weren't great but it's kind of sad that they are gone. I think they went wrong by relying on Rockband so heavily. Never put all your eggs in one basket.
Karma well what likely got them in that position was them not focusing enough on a product/product line.
They did have some legit mobile controllers, and their mini controllers were great for toddlers...ish. I wasn't one to tell quality of a product when I used an OG PlayStation mini controller from them
Robert T Yeah, they probably got into debt because they made way too many products. The Rat gaming mice were awesome. Honestly, as a consumer I thought that they were primarily focusing on enthusiast PC stuff for the past few years. I feel like they could still be around if that was their plan.
Omg yeah, I have the MMo7, I don't even use it yet, waiting for a new pc build to hook it up. This really does bum me out, some of my favorite products were by mad catz =/
I literally just found out about the MMO and Rat series mice last year... My heart feels heavy.
Karma They made some dope fightsticks tho. The TE2 is good af
LOL I couldn't stop laughing at the player 2 comments, it is so true. Giving your friend the crappy controller was all part of the home-field advantage lol.
Here bro, here's your controller.
*Hands him the clear green one with the off-centered analog stick*
throws that shit on the ground and goes home
We kept one just like that. We'd give it to 1st time Smash Brothers players on N64. Good times.
Agh, a brony! Can i smash your head in with one of those arcade sticks? :D jk
Blowtorch the Robot Man when i played smash with my niece at her house I would take the madcatz controller because it was cool looking.
What's funny is that a Mad Catz PS2 controller was and still is used in our house. It's lasted since the early 2000's.
$80 Switch controllers... Mad Catz isn't the hero we deserve, but they're the hero we need.
Look up 8bitdo SN30 ProPlus
RaiseTheSail were those around back in the days??
@@geezus7833 the newest one just came out about month ago, but 8bitdo has been making controllers for switch for a couple years now
Jeez, I thought $60 for a new DualShock 4 was too much! The DS4 that came with my PS4 is the only one I have, and seeing as how it's not doing so hot, I really need a new one. Which I can't afford. Still, I can't be too mad about the price. If I had created such a masterpiece, such a perfect controller, I'd probably charge a lot for it, too.
you should do more tech tales. they are interesting and you learn a lot from them.
There are many more:
th-cam.com/play/PLbBZM9aUMsjEVZPCDMl-lXOx50rSBNFQC.html
Yes, but some of us have watched all of them already, and still want more... Great content, thank you for making them, and keep up the good work.
I cant even imagine the efffort these need for research so I guess thats one reason they are not so common,. They are great tho!
He is doing more. This is evident because he has been making more.
I had many of those gameboy abominations, they saved me so often
kids today don't know the struggle of needing to change batteries and find good lighting.
I had to sit at the top of the stairs for the lighting haha
Iivaitte I'm 19 and I still have my GBA so I know what's it is like.
Had several of those on my old GB Color, largely the external light and battery pack.
Lorenzo Iannarilli the OG game boy isn't even that bad as far as lighting. The gameboy color and especially the Game Boy Advance were terrible though.
ikr, try playing Boktai, at any time either you've gone blind from glare, or you're gettting fucked over because you're not close enough to sunlight, it can be mitigated with a GBA SP and a blacklight, but damn, the GB(C) were even worse, I remember vaguely the hell of trying to find proper lighting to play Pokemon/Rolans Curse II.
Also I'm pretty sure, you literally cannot play Hey You Pikachu without a mic, I had to plug in a generic garbage PC mic to the adapter to get anywhere.
The only reason why I remember Mad Catz is because I have a GameCube memory card from them that I've had for a little over 15 years. It doesn't have my original save data for a lot of my games anymore, but the fact that I still have my childhood memory card from them speaks volumes to me. When I heard they were going out of business, I was sad.
I still remember my Mad Catz memory card for GameCube. It lasted the longest of them all
I had a GC controller and a 16x size GC memory card that both served me well, way better than they had any right to. I salute you Mad Catz, not everyone is as pleased with your products as I was, but you served me quite well, and Im thankful for that.
Wow. Had no idea they filed for bankruptcy. Working at Target in the electronics dept and afterwards as a GameStop manager their reputation definitely followed them for the 15 years I was in retail. I still have two of their Street Fighter Fightsticks. Those were rock solid.
That's because Sanwa made the stick and buttons for the fight sticks (tournament editions / TE2 / etc), MadCatz had their own parts for the cheaper models and they were garbage.
Mad Catz revolutionized the arcade stick market, if it weren't for them affordable high end arcade sticks wouldn't be available now.
It's a relief seeing one more episode of Tech Tales. Also, it's sad to see that Mad Catz went bankrupt. Last but not least, 1987 doesn't feel like 30 years ago to me, wow!
ProfesyonelCaylak Sounds like ne and the early 2000s
ProfesyonelCaylak Makes ya feel old, doesn't it?
Jesus Zamora pretty much, considering I'm 21 and a friend calls me as "old f***" xD
ProfesyonelCaylak Haha, imagine how I feel. I'm 39! This company's entire existence came and went in my lifetime.
i was born in 1987 haha........ dam i will be 30 this year....... now i feel old hahaha
Ok but I have had a gamecube controller from them, it has been 15 years since I got it and it hasn’t failed me ever.
Man I freaking LOVE LGR. I watch atleast 5 videos a day. I've almost seen every episode. Seriously. Thanks brother for the amazing videos. Love the nostalgia.
Their Original Xbox controllers were insanely good. Especially their wireless micro-controller, it was smaller than the S-controller and moved the black and white buttons to the shoulders.
Paul Rippcord agreed
Paul Rippcord Nothing was better than the Duke. I loved that fat piece of lard.
Actually, that sounds really good. There's nothing more infuriating than having the aircraft yaw controls in GTA on the black and white buttons. Let's just say that that particularly ergonomic deficiency was worked around with some creative helicopter piloting.
Agreed. The wireless xbox controller they did was amazing, and actually held up pretty well given their reputation for meh quality.
PS2 wireless controllers were also good, at least the one I have (transparent one with rubber grips on sides)
I remember having an original Xbox Mad Catz controller I used to play with. It had shorter triggers than the standard. Making split screen Slayer on Halo 2 unfair for others >:)
Amen dude. I had the same controller you described. The action worked pretty good until the controller started falling apart. The sticks would lose responsiveness and the dead zone will grow bigger and bigger.
Hardrockfan21 yeah i used the clear green one with a macro it was pretty amazing for halo 2
Hardrockfan21 I had their PS1/2 controllers as a kid. the shape was different but I recall no problems - which they gave me the kind of advantage yours did lol
I have an of Xbox controller from mad catz it's see through white with yellow. I Like it cuz it's big like the Duke but doesn't have the buttons like in a weird position. It's cool
Oh is *THAT* why I liked my unofficial Xbox controller so much for Halo 2... I kinda feel mean now, rofl. I even placed decently in a tournament on release night for Halo 2 using that thing..
seeing that mad catz GameCube controller brought back some unholy memories
Dang, I totally would've bought a controller that would zap me every time I took damage in a video game. That sounds freaking cool.
dark souls
It would only be a matter of time til some dum dum put the electrodes on their head or their genitals and BOOM lawsuit.
My friend had a cattle prod, that he would break out after we got good and drunk, circa 2004. So you could say I endured this IRL. Good times
Mad Catz was the highest quality of the low quality imo. They made wireless xbox original controllers that were ok. They at LEAST gave us an option, despite not being the best.
I have one or two madcatz gameboy camera to pc cables somewhere - that was a pretty nice product.
Yeah their stuff was hit, or miss, like the cables, and memory cards being very well made for the price, but most of their controllers not so much so sadly.
I feel like controllers are just harder to get right because of the moving parts, cables etc. There's so much feel to a controller, from the texture, shape and press of the buttons to the overall weight of it.
R.I.P 2nd player
TheSlackassCrew not if its a PowerA
Yeah they got replaced five year olds cunts on PS network and Xbox live lol
The mad catz N64 controllers are as appealing as a mad cat's litter box
gothmoth64 so just as appealing as normal N64 controllers then...
They worked tho
Mine didnt even last a month lol
Can you really say you had a Gameboy, if you didn't also have a Madcatz screen light and magnifier.
Yes.
What's wild is that I had the "abomination" full GBC accessory set but none of it had madcatz branding. In fact I recognized a bunch of products that I didn't know were madcatz the whole time
Indeed, didnt even know it existed, and i used to play the original non color, non backlit one before i got my GBA SP
Mad catz made those? I had one, I just didnt know that they made it. That thing was a godsend for playing gameboy past bedtime
I had a gbc. No backlight. No mad catz light or magnifer. It was daytime playing or no playing at all lol.
Mad Catz arcade fight sticks were great. I happen to have their TE2, which is amazing. Arcade stick manufacturers today don't offer the same type of customization they offered, so I miss them dearly.
I was definitely waiting for this one. God I hated my friends for getting Mad Cats controllers and shoving them off on me. Only controller I ever got that wasn't from the console manufacturer was a logitech wireless controller for the original xbox, that thing still works to this day, solid controller.
Yeah old Logitech controllers were indestructible. Still using the Chillstream from 2007 or so as my main gamepad. It has a fan that blows the sweat off your hands, most comfortable thing ever.
Would be actually a good fit for Oddware, one of few "gimmick" controllers that's actually good.
LGR uploads: good day
LGR uploads a video about something that you clearly remember from childhood: great day
I still have a couple of their products...RIP Madcatz...another part of my past dead.
the only thing from Mad Katz I own is a white GameCube Controller. I bought it before the bankruptcy, so, well, we both have pieces of technology of a company no more.
My only x360 controller is from them...
Yeah.... but do they work?
Only thing I ever used Mad Catz controllers for was the turbo function (if they had it) during a couple of game events that required a lot of button mashing.
The turbo function repeated hitting the last button you pressed along with the turbo button until you cancelled it. It was useful during mini-events or certain Mario Party games.
Being a lil bro madkatz was a big part of my childhood... you will be forever missed
I have a MadCatz GameCube controller that I still use to this day :)
I remember the wireless Xbox controllers, funny to say I liked them better than the Microsoft ones because my brother always pulled the wired ones out.
The Wireless Xbox 360 controllers were great aswell
I hated that at first, was super used to the buttons being there and the change just didn't sit well with me for years. I still think the buttons being so close to your thumb are a good idea.
I used to have a clear one years ago that broke on me within a year of owning it, unfortunately.
I had two mad catz wireless controllers one clear and one black, I preferred the black because it had a duplicate of the black and white buttons above the left and right trigger buttons like the left and right bumper buttons on the 360 controllers. Unfortunately I lost them in a move.
Related to wireless and Mad Catz, I had issues with my Gamecube not powering on correctly and called the Nintendo hotline to troubleshoot. It ended up being the Mad Catz controller I had (Actually featured at 5:13) called the micro or something. But the technical support lady told me that the wireless Wavebird controllers were not licensed by Nintendo and recommended to not use them either.. even though they were designed and sold by Nintendo. Never bought Mad Catz again though
I STILL have that Magic Gate PS2 memory card plugged into my PS2. Works great and I got it the day I got my PS2.
Strei Bullet me too I got myne as my 12th birthday present it was my first ps2
When I needed a new controller and my mom didn’t want to pay full price, Mad Catz was there..
Recently I grabbed my PS1 to play some games, looked around for the controllers and the only one I found was the Mad Catz Dual Force 2 Pro controller. Had some flashbacks of playing with it a lot and man, it's probably the best controller I've played with in the recent years. Sure it's in need of some restoration being old and well used, but the sticks are amazing, stiff and precise with tight centering spring.
My main memory of Mad Catz was their GCN memory card corrupting all my saves. Aaaaaargh!!!
Same here! I had both a memory card (which corrupted much quicker than my other cards) and a purple Gamecube controller made by them that broke. My sister dropped it on the floor one day and the controller wouldn't stop vibrating when plugged in. Button inputs didn't work either after that >.
Such a bad uh memory...
because of sister.
That sucks my mad catz gcn memory card has held all my day for about 15 years guess I got lucky
I still have a couple of Madcatz ps2 memory cards. They still work. Younger sister had one of those gawdy looking orange ps2 controllers, pretty sure she still has it because it actually had a turbo function.
What did turbo functions do.
@@OneBasedGod they allow you to hold the button down to rapidly repeat a function, like jumping. Rather than tap the button repeatedly, you could just hold it down to jump continuously.
Intriguing and amazingly well written as always Clint! I never get distracted or go from full-screen when I'm watching one of your Tech Tales videos, your writing really shines with these; always keeps me interested, perfect pacing.
Happy to hear it, thanks :)
My Mad Catz Gamecube controller was actually pretty good.
the one with the nubs/ lines on the handle right ? i still have mine. fantastic for playong mortal kombat with.
The clear/see through ones? It's been years since I've used mine, but I don't remember ever disliking it. From what I remember, it was pretty good.
@ 3:20 I picked that Saturn pad up at a thrift store, having never heard of "High Frequency". Just assumed it was some unofficial or bootleg thing, but now I know. Thank you for teachin' me stuff, LGR!
rest in peace mad cats our freinds will be for ever in youre debt. cos as if fuck we would give our freinds the good contoler
Torque the prisoner I love The Suffering.
Sir Justin of Port Town of Parm very uder rated game
The sequel was pretty awful, I think thats why it kinda died out. I really liked the original suffering though.
i liked the oridginal the best as well i
sephirothdawn2 I remember many months before Ties That Bind came out i was nearly all the time on the games website waiting on any new game images and the like. Lets just say i was super hyped for it and i enjoyed it quite a lot actually; as much as the original suffering. Oddly the only thing that threw me off from Ties is doctor killjoys voice sounds pitched up and overall sounds off. Other than that its a great game and the original too.
Just mentioning the name Mad Catz brings me a wave of nostalgia.
Poor Mad Catz. They were certainly a household name, but mostly for all of the wrong reasons!
I actually had their MicroCon for Gamecube, enjoyed it a lot. Same for the AirFlo for PS2. The air flow was a BOON to me during my long gaming sessions, the fans inside helped me not sweat on the controller.
Whenever my old friends would have a halo get together (back when split screen was a thing), I'd always try not to be the last person to get to his house. As you'd expect, the fourth controller he had was a Mad Catz brand.
R.I.P. Madcatz. Never again will we play Madden with our weird second-removed cousins during spring break with one of your controllers.
This is easily becoming one of my favorite series on youtube, keep it up!
Such a shame, while most of their products were cheap, horrible feeling rubbish, their arcade sticks were absolutely incredible.
And mice
Mad Catz was a huge part of my gaming life as a child. I still have two GameCube memory cards and and RCA switcher for my TV, and they all work just as well as they did when my parents got them 15 years ago.
4:48 I had that Dreamcast controller. It was actually quite good, and it lasted for as long as I used the console. But all the other mad catz controllers I had ALWAYS developed a heavy bias in their analog sticks, which made them useless.
The mad cats original xbox controllers was awesome.
MLGRACCOON it was the one situation where you and your brother actually fought for the Madcats controller. It was really comfortable
I have a couple of Mad Catz wireless xbox controllers that were made with the same tech as the wireless gamecube controllers. Considering the fact that microsoft never made a wireless controller for the original box, it's pretty cool that mad catz did it.
Totally agree those little pads were amazing then microsoft came out with the neo s but still not a candle to the madcatz
Agreed. Totally comfy with the rubberized grips
Snick Snack not every product they made was bad. Although in 99 i got one for Gran Turismo 1 and it was so sensitive i turn the wheel a little and it turned all the way took it back to Wal Mart exchanged it, same thing. I couldn't get a refund because it was Christmas present didn't have receipt lol.
They had a really good PS2 controller with the 4 bumper buttons in just the right place for piloting AC's In Armored Core 3. I used it to SPANK people's asses in that game!
Ah, the player 2 controllers, almost brings a tear to my eyes
Mostly from remembering the agony they were to use
I guess their 9 lives are up
That one guy who comments on random videos ooooooooohhhhhhh!!!!!!snap!!!
their*
for fuck's sake...
@@PANZERFAUST90 Couldn't have said it better myself, lol. People's ability to spell is dying, it seems... 😂😂😂
@@JarodMoonchild1975 Public schools are shit.
@@PANZERFAUST90 Hey now, I went to public school, and I turned out alright. But if you don't have a brain to begin with, school's not gonna help, anyway. I'm bad at math, though. But that's kinda like dyslexia, just with numbers. I mean, I can do basic stuff, and I'm pretty decent with that. But then I reach a certain level of math, and then my brain just goes "Nope", lol. 😂😂😂
When you didn’t bring your own controller to your homies you knew you were getting the mad catz.
The mini mad cats GameCube controller will still make you win any game of smash period
just perfect, the entire video is just perfect.
Say what you want about their off-brand controllers and such, the Mad Catz memory card is legendary.
Grey gamecube memory card.
it had double capacity at half the price
Their PS2 memory cards were also a boon to people who had just got the system because there was a shortage of the official Sony ones for a good while at the time. We didn't care who made it as long as it worked right and that's one of Mad Catz's few stellar products of the time.
Agreed I've had the same MadCatz GameCube memory card since late 04 that still works, and recently found another at a Goodwill that has data on it from 06 that still works, while I had an official Nintendo GameCube memory card crap out on me in less then 7 months back in 04.
yeah the mad catz ps2 memory card was one of their best products
That intro is way too true... We always had the mad catz controller as the backup for when friends came over (and indeed the one I used when my older sister played with me XD)
I still have that N64 controller in the thumbnail, as well as that turbo NES controller!!
_And_ the "High Frequency" Genesis controller, but it was a six-button!
I actually loved my mad catz controllers, my brother and I would use them even when we had the original ones. I guess we just liked how they lit up and had a pretty intense rumble feature. Like it would make my hands go numb from how hard it would shake.
So I won't be getting $20 Mad Catz joycons? :((
smokeydops ik :(
smokeydops no $30 joycon charging station that doesnt actually charge the joycons :(
you might be able to get them now because Mad Catz are back
RIP
smokeydops you'll just have to order the generic copy directly yourself on ebay from China instead of madcats doing this, rebranding, and selling to you for more lmao
my old mad catz n64 controller was the only thing to stand the hardcore abuse i put it through during 1000's of hours of super smash bros. and still works to this day
I had this Mad Catz MMO mouse. It was so awesome. Pinky rest that you could swap out. Adjustable palm rest. Of course the weights like everyone else but they could actually be felt.
Took 4 years before that mouse died. Got me through many character level grinds. May you rest in a dump somewhere Mad Catz MMO Mouse.
Been a R.A.T. 7 user since 2010. Regardless of what everyone said about the twin laser design and the easy-target aesthetics, it was by and large the best mouse I've ever owned. It form fits most any hand size and shape, and my... GOD... the pinky rest. You have not lived until you've used their R.A.T. pinky rest. My original finally needed to be replaced about three months ago (really, just the side buttons were starting to go, a staple of many game macros of mine), and of course I sprung for another R.A.T. 7. It was a bit rough to track one down due to the bankruptcy, but it was well worth it. Here's to another seven years of service with a fantastic mouse from a legendary, sometimes dubiously so, company.
I remember getting a gba link cable by mad catz when I was a kid. It was broken out of the box. Quality product.
3:16 I actually have that SNES controller and it's one of the BEST ones I've ever used. Kind of wish the d pad was more standard, but the buttons are super responsive, the extra l and r help, and turbo is a blessing.
Great review! I always laughed at these controllers and always told my bro “don’t get a mad catz”
I feel like I definitely had MadCatz controllers for my PS2 and/or XBOX back as a little kid. I definitely remember that little logo looking so strange against the professional-look of the controller itself.
I had one of those steering wheels at [3:18] as a ~10 year old, only mine had red highlights (I assume a different version? Single Force? :P ) for my PlayStation. One Christmas I got a stereo system that came in a decent-sized box, so I cut a flap in the front to sit the pedals in, and taped the wheel to the top. It lasted at least a few years, which if nothing else, is a testament to high-quality 90's cardboard manufacturing.
so i guess not all cats have nine lives.
Sit The Fuck Down
Caaaaaaarlos
This cat had like 20 and it's back again! 😼
Basically, they should still be around today making arcade sticks only, but they are stupid/greedy? Some of their sticks were great, no complaints.
Their flight sticks are awful. The ergonomics are bad and they break very easily.
The fighting game community are the ones who will feel MadCatz' loss the most. For everyone else, it is mere trivia.
SuperFrodo95 the x50 series is PC legend status. And all settings are adjustbable
The FGC moved on easily with Razer, Hori, and others making fine arcade sticks. Honestly there wasn't anything special about Mad Catz arcade sticks. They were just a box, design, and logo but all the components were third party and can be purchased online and put into most arcade stick boxes. You could easily make your own. Sucks to see them go though. I am used to MCZ Tokido and MCZ Daigo.
You do realize all companies are greedy right? That's kind of the point of them.
The R.A.T.7 mouse is probably one of the things I regret the most spending money on. I bought it cause it looked all futuristic and cool, but it ended up breaking after less than a year of use, and just started randomly turning off, causing my computer to bluescreen and causing all kinds of havoc.
I saw one at Walmart on discount that i was going to pick up till i read this.
I had one too and it worked pretty well for at least 6 months until one day it just stopped working and i never managed to figure out how to fix it so i threw it away. Annoying because it cost be about £60.
Now i use a Nemesis Kata mouse which i got for £15, it has a simple comfortable design and works brilliantly. I'll never buy an expensive mouse ever again!
Made the same mistake here. Bought a RAT9 Because of the futuristic style and the "Great Wireless technologies" that it had. The mouse pointer started flicking all over the damn screen for no apparent reason and the batteries died one year after i bought it, just out of the warranty period. There was nothing in the sensor nor was there anything wrong with the computer. 110 dollars down the drain.
I actually won a R.A.T.7 way back at Dreamhack 2011, and it broke just a month ago. So I guess I was lucky. I really liked that mouse!
Yeah sounds very similar to my experience. At least it looks cool.
I bought a Tritron headphones earlier this year, and a gentle surprise was to finding a Mad Catz troubleshooting helpline card inside.
I just want to point out that LGR is a trooper to the TH-cam world by doing what he loves, what we love - in such great/nostalgic taste all without a single AD. LGR!
The only good thing about Madcatz were those fight sticks. They were considered one of the best sticks in the market.
Now Razer has taken its place in the stick market, it isn't as one-sided as Mad Catz domination in the FGC.
Mad catz is back but they are only focusing on PC.
TheDarkstar826 fuck yeah eat it console scrubs
@@kenopsia9013 wow man pc master race wow your so cool hahaha, actually no you arent. shut the fuck up and go back to reddit.
@@dominicbofficial ok pc and console both have pros and cons, but shut up if you dont play on a samsung smart fridge
@@dominicbofficial console shitter lmao
@@user-gb7cl8np3p real gamers play on a smart thermostat
I have a Mad Catz R.A.T 3 looking for an upgrade, then the company goes bankrupt, just my luck.
you can still find the drivers. I found the ones for my rat 5 after about an hour. smart-technology-programming-software.software.informer.com/ here you go for the makros
König des Toasts I prefer the the older mice he odds ones (3,5,7,8), but I may pick up a newer X or something, if not a RAT 9.
ahh now i got it. You mean hadware upgrade. I thought your software was missing. I must say the rat 5 is like the 7 but without the modular part, but man its a nice mouse.
König des Toasts yeah, drivers can be found for anything on the Internet.
My setup is white, So I like the odd ones.
understandable. I just use what i have already
I have to say the Mad Catz R.A.T. 6 mouse is by far the best quality mouse I've ever owned, and the only one to last longer than about a year and a half. When I was younger, however, they were synonymous with subpar quality lol.
I remember when I was 11/12 having a mad catz controller with fans to keep the palms cool, and I still have a gun they sold for xbox that I bought for house of the dead 3, and I thought it was so cool, you would put the memory card where the clip would go. I also have and still use a wireless controller they sold. Loved mad catz stuff felt a little cheap at times but it did look cool!
Great content. Thanks for the work.
Thanks for watching!
Their third-party N64 controllers had longer-lasting analog sticks than the originals, I'll give them that.
there's now 3rd party replacement joysticks for original n64 controllers, I think their made by hyperkin
True
I bought tons of madcatz controllers growing up and never had any issues with them
I just took apart a grimy Mad Catz GameCube controller and yeah it is hella cheap inside. I did pick up one of their genesis controllers with the turbo sliders recently. Looks like it was never used. I remember having a clear blue PS controller of theirs. It used to shock me occasionally but it was not designed to do that like that one with the pads.
I used the Rock Band guitar as a midi controler to record some sweet lute rifs in my music. I'd say that Mad Catz Rock Band guitar controller is one of the most useful midi controllers out there. It maybe wasn't intended for that use but I think it's a simple but quality product.
Awesome, good shit!
There legacy will forever live on in secondhand stores across the world.
Yep, you just have to finds the hidden gems in their bulk of crap like the memory cards, cables, Rat mice, and Arcade sticks are still worth picking up even 2nd hand.
Rip Madcatz... They will be remembered (Not well.. But admirable)
i actually feel like you gave this company more credit than they deserved. some good fight sticks cannot erase over a decade of the shittiest products anyone has ever used. i usually feel bad when u explain how a company dies..but in this case fuck mad catz!
They were good but the main reason they were good was because madcatz DIDNT make the buttons or joystick.
Ahh, MadCatz made one of the only 3rd party things I had growing up, a gamecube memory card that contained some preloaded cheats. I still have it, and it still works.
Thanks for introducing that lovely tune - "Twin Shine" for me LGR!
For christmas 2016, my partner of the time bought me a Mad Catz S.T.R.I.K.E 7 keyboard (I'd picked it out, and covered the shipping & import duties from the US) - initially it was quite good (despite the latest drivers available at the time not being signed for Windows 10 x64), and I certainly liked the programability of it's touchscreen LCD, but after a while it tended to get rather unstable rather quickly (firmware crashes, particularly when playing certain games - most of which didn't even use any MC APIs, go figure)...
Moved it to my work Win7 PC, where it lasted another year and a spit before getting unstable there too - been boxed for the last couple of months