the maze notation with letter and number shown by Vei and Rain is actually correct. It is the most used one, exemple : excel. The other way is when you use it is when you are in coding. But soda in the end found the perfect one to use which the XY one, you can't mess up with this one.
one represents how you read in the west. so this is why tables are represented in this way (left to right, top do bottom, we did it before computers existed). the other one is cartesian and none of them is wrong, just depends on what you wanna do
Rainhoe was completely correct though. If you're using letters and numbers to denote position, then you are usually referring to table positions or 2d discrete arrays, not cartesian coordinates. Not to mention they literally used the terms "rows and columns", which very specifically refers to tables. And the convention for table positions/2d arrays is to go from top left to bottom right, chess is the odd one there. In the first place, table positions are generally what's used when operating with arrays. Coordinates generally imply continuousness, meaning that you should have the ability to set decimal positions like x = 1.20 y = 4.41, which would not have possible with what they were given. Rainhoe didn't do math wrong, it's Sleepy who doesn't get how tables work, likely because of chess confusing him.
the fact she not only does the whole collumn thing in reverse (the actual thing being D1, E4) but she also counts wrong her own way literally says D4... while it should actually be D6 if you do it her reverse way... 👀
Do you know that pouring your coffee on your head is better than drinking the coffee (if you want to wake up quickly, it works 100% every single time 🙂)
Rain, just gotta say while it's hilarious content, I hope you know you're not an idiot. I'm not saying you're a genius, but like the children from Lake Wobegon, you're above average. Also if you actually get that reference, you're officially a boomer. (I'm 36 but I'm an honorary boomer I think.)
I like now easy it is to tell that some streamers never have worked a job. Like bro have you ever used excel or Google sheets? Row 4 is rhe 4th row counting from the top. It’s like battleship, not like a coordinate system ffs lol
Regarding the coordinate system argument, both options are correct - it depends on the convention used. What Rain and Vei in the ending clip tried to use is what's called a left-hand coordinate system (usually with the center in upper left corner, X going from left to right and Y going from top to bottom), used in Excel, Photoshop and HTML for example. Most graphic programs have the axis' displayed along the top and left side, but maybe not necessarily using the left-hand system. The right-hand coordinate system has the center in bottom left corner and is used by THE FRIKKIN REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD. It's used by every sensible scientist out there, every back-end software developer (and OpenGL devs). Right-hand coordinate system feels more natural with top right being the positive side, while left-hand coordinate system makes more sense when your anchor point is the top left corner, like on a canvas, most likely inspired by right-handed painters. BTW Vei's argument that the first row is at the top is smoothbrain time. Looking at theaters, cinemas or drawers, first row is always at the bottom.
🙄 it's because it's how you read in the west you doofus. tables were made in this way before we had mechanical typewriters. it has nothing to do with programs. when reneé decartes did the cartesian model this already existed. it was just about 500 or so years ago. people did tables millenia before that. so yeah, cinemas, smoothbrain, etc. great thinking. sure it matters a lot what "backend developers" use in the span of thousands of years. fricking public schools
C'mon have some faith Have some faith Have some faith Mildly chaotic but still seemed to go well, just got to understand 3s with a stroke and beep beep beeeep 😂😂
I love sleepy, so glad he got a new way to lose his sanity after not playing Overwatch. Thanks Rain
As a sleepy refugee I enjoyed this video a lot.
one day he will return right?... right?
@@ethernet6591we must stay strong brothers
good news, you were right@@ethernet6591
lmao he actually gave the bonus clip of vei and soda.
The "are you Australian?!" kills me every time
Excel vs graphing coordinates got intense 😂
all us sleepy refugees are now just rainhoe enjoyers sajj
So true
I haven't laughed this hard in a long time Sleepy is hilarious 😂
hahaha they think of rows as in an excel sheet when looking at a board
That Ending LMFAO 🤣
Bro so many people getting their Columns & Rows mixed up
X axis is definitely Letters and Y for numbers.
That’s what chessboards look like, so it’s a well established convention imo
Pretty sure this is the 2nd best I've ever seen people do at this (best being actual bomb disposal), and it's Sleepy, Rainhoe and Sleepy's chat 🤣
WE'RE MAKING IT OFF THE TOILET WITH THIS ONE 🗣🔥💯😂
the maze notation with letter and number shown by Vei and Rain is actually correct. It is the most used one, exemple : excel. The other way is when you use it is when you are in coding.
But soda in the end found the perfect one to use which the XY one, you can't mess up with this one.
You can if you don't know wich is wich. I have seen plenty people be like is y up or the side
Go watch Vedal and Camila's attempt on it, you'll realize there's indeed a way to mess it up, multiple times 😂
@@joey_f4ke238well then it’s just not cartesian. Which hurts everyone that had to study maths in high school.
one represents how you read in the west. so this is why tables are represented in this way (left to right, top do bottom, we did it before computers existed). the other one is cartesian
and none of them is wrong, just depends on what you wanna do
waking up at 12 is the twitch streamer version of getting up at 3 am to inflict unspeakable suffering on yourself for the hustle
Average rainhoe interaction 10:30
And that WHAT sound similar to the fish guy from spongebob
Gotta do more of these holy shit i havent laughed this hard in so long
Rainhoe: I woke up early
also Rainhoe: I woke up at 12:00
TF?
As a fellow nightdweller, it's normal people's 5am
@@rapthor666As a fellow nightdweller, real and true.
gamer of the year (copium) releases another banger
you two are like dynamic duo! Impossible to keep not laughing 🍿
OMG the Spider using a glory hole killed me hahaha
A friendly reminder to not play this game unless you wanna scream at each other.
ESA: "There's literally an E3!"
NOT ANYMORE
Cartesian versus Excel. The battle of the century
and thats why math classes were so important kids, X and Y axes 🤣🤣🤣
Rainhoe was completely correct though. If you're using letters and numbers to denote position, then you are usually referring to table positions or 2d discrete arrays, not cartesian coordinates. Not to mention they literally used the terms "rows and columns", which very specifically refers to tables. And the convention for table positions/2d arrays is to go from top left to bottom right, chess is the odd one there.
In the first place, table positions are generally what's used when operating with arrays. Coordinates generally imply continuousness, meaning that you should have the ability to set decimal positions like x = 1.20 y = 4.41, which would not have possible with what they were given.
Rainhoe didn't do math wrong, it's Sleepy who doesn't get how tables work, likely because of chess confusing him.
🤣 Haven't laughed this hard in a long time! Thank you for this!
never watched sleepy before but he sounds really fun lol
THE CAT BOY IS ALIVE!!! ITS BEEN SO LONGG 😢
Some weird fox-looking thing told me she'd punch me if I didn't show up here today, so here I am.
Plot-twist, Rainhoe was da bomb all along 💣
rain doing the morse code i cant
Say “Hey” in Morse Code by repeating:
Di-di-di-dit, Dit, Da-di-da-dah
Dit is *dot* & dah is *dash*
I have missed Sleepy so much.
This is why I watch and subscribe on Twitch
Very cool transition
God this is fucking GOLD content 🤣🤣🤣🤣
funny vid, would come back
At the end with Veibae she's right because we as English speakers read left to right top down so we originate the coordinates from the top left lol
i swear sleepy is the content
I'm suprised rainhoe didn't insert a battleship picture
poor sleepy getting gaslighted by all these vtubers about the proper use of cartesian coordinates.
the fact she not only does the whole collumn thing in reverse (the actual thing being D1, E4) but she also counts wrong her own way literally says D4... while it should actually be D6 if you do it her reverse way... 👀
Do you know that pouring your coffee on your head is better than drinking the coffee (if you want to wake up quickly, it works 100% every single time 🙂)
I'm die! Thank you forever!
3:40 11:55
1:02 Hey sleepy, can you hand over the Joilt???
letters go on y obviously
I love sleepy man
Rain is my favorite V-Tuber, I know that say more about me than I'd like to admit, but still.
Why bro making fun of me like I'm Australian 😭
Rain, just gotta say while it's hilarious content, I hope you know you're not an idiot. I'm not saying you're a genius, but like the children from Lake Wobegon, you're above average.
Also if you actually get that reference, you're officially a boomer. (I'm 36 but I'm an honorary boomer I think.)
I honestly would also probably do left->right + top- >bottom, cause thats how you read stuff KEKW 12:33
I go from the top to down too. Why would anyone start at the bottom, when there is a top? Who reads from the bottom of the page, upwards?
I like now easy it is to tell that some streamers never have worked a job. Like bro have you ever used excel or Google sheets? Row 4 is rhe 4th row counting from the top. It’s like battleship, not like a coordinate system ffs lol
People go top down because of Battleship.
That dudes corny js
Boom!
seriously do who puts the X axis at the top .. al graphs have the X axis on the bottom ...
People who do programming usually start 0,0 at the top left.
Did i hear her say "its all ogre now"?
After min 5:00
KEKW
Regarding the coordinate system argument, both options are correct - it depends on the convention used.
What Rain and Vei in the ending clip tried to use is what's called a left-hand coordinate system (usually with the center in upper left corner, X going from left to right and Y going from top to bottom), used in Excel, Photoshop and HTML for example. Most graphic programs have the axis' displayed along the top and left side, but maybe not necessarily using the left-hand system.
The right-hand coordinate system has the center in bottom left corner and is used by THE FRIKKIN REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD. It's used by every sensible scientist out there, every back-end software developer (and OpenGL devs).
Right-hand coordinate system feels more natural with top right being the positive side, while left-hand coordinate system makes more sense when your anchor point is the top left corner, like on a canvas, most likely inspired by right-handed painters.
BTW Vei's argument that the first row is at the top is smoothbrain time. Looking at theaters, cinemas or drawers, first row is always at the bottom.
🙄 it's because it's how you read in the west you doofus. tables were made in this way before we had mechanical typewriters. it has nothing to do with programs.
when reneé decartes did the cartesian model this already existed. it was just about 500 or so years ago. people did tables millenia before that.
so yeah, cinemas, smoothbrain, etc. great thinking. sure it matters a lot what "backend developers" use in the span of thousands of years.
fricking public schools
It's not an xy axis most people read left right and top down (in English speaking places)
jesus christ. not "english speaking". almost all western languages. all languages derived from latin do this, from germanic, from norse etc
C'mon have some faith
Have some faith
Have some faith
Mildly chaotic but still seemed to go well, just got to understand 3s with a stroke and beep beep beeeep 😂😂
first
Day one of telling Rain that I'm in love with her.
Get some help
@Idontevenwanachannel No, I don't need therapy. Just give me waifus and leave me be.