The Wasted Potential in Pokemon Journeys.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- today we are talking about some of the majorly mishandled Pokemon and concepts from Pokemon Journeys.
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which Pokemon, story or concept do you wish Pokemon Journeys did more with?🤔
Literally a lot of things.
Man if only they made it more concept with story that isn't a waste of time or potential and something that WE wanted to see that the writers should've WRITE what we want to see.
I mean, LOTS of things that we want to see from the writers as long as it isn't disappointing
I think that either Jessie, James and Meowth should have either quit Team Rocket permanently but stayed together or Giovanni could have invaded the Galar region with Ash defeating him after the PWC leading to the complete end of Team Rocket instead of them continuing and failing to catch Pikachu because they really weren't needed in some of the episodes.
Definitely lost of things
@@NiallKelly I wish we got MORE character returns! The character I really wish they’d brought back is Nando 🎶
Pokémon Journeys really wasted the opportunity to have Chloe's Eevee Gigantimax, which would factor into why she did not want to evolve into any of the Eeveelutions.
That would've been great
That’s cuz Chloe sucks and even the developers knew that
Exactly
Not letting Ash have any of the Galar Starters was easily Journey’s worst decision. Especially Grookey.
Grookey doesn’t fit ash cause Rillaboom is TOO slow 💀☠️
@@crimsoneternalflower6880 Maybe, he would have turned Rillaboom into a beast.
@@crimsoneternalflower6880 Leon has it, and that Rillaboom destroyed.
Ash got two Galar Pokemon. Just to be clear. But the REAL injustice here is Goh BARLEY got any Sinnoh Pokemon! Only one! A Mantyke. When there were so many other Sinnoh Pokemon he could have caught!
Problem was they gave all 3 starters to Goh who doesn't even used them to full potential
Even if they didn't gave Ash starter maybe they have given Sobble to Cloey and Grookey to Gary fans would have still liked that
Ash never reunited with Primeape
Yeah, literally that is one of the worst things about journeys. Even, pidgeot returned to his team.
He get scammed
He too naive to trust strangers he just meet and entrust one of his pokemon
Grookey was the embodiment of wasn’t potential. The moment goh caught Ik he was only gonna be there to be a shoulder mon. Which is sad because the Grookey line are actually really good, and Leon proved Rillaboom can be a monster on the battle field
The fact you can remove all of Chloe and Eevee’s episodes from JN and NOTHING changes js absolutely crazy.
Hot take, as a Grookey enthusiast, it being a shoulder Pokemon and being a “comedic” relief is fine. Not every Pokemon or Trainer in the show has to be fleshed out 🤷♂️
@LuapXD I was fine with the idea as well. I normally don't support this kind of writing, but since Goh had different goals in mind it was OK for some of his Pokémon to stay in their current forms.
Hot take: Goh shouldn't have had a goal that was impossible to get. (Because, they changed his goal to catching Mew in Project Mew because they knew they couldn't show his goal of catching everything.)
If I remember correctly Goh only wanted to catch Mew, but changed his goal to catch every pokemon so he could catch Scorebunny after wanting to be caught by Goh. Which doesn't make any sense all the writers needed to do was Ash asking how was Goh going to catch Mew without any pokemon to battle it with?
I was so sad/mad that Nando was never given the chance to return in Journeys 😭😡 Like we got so many of the Sinnoh characters, like Dawn ( more than once! ), Cynthia, Paul, Falkner, Flint and Reggie ( the last two got small cameo appearances ), and Ash and Goh have traveled to the Sinnoh Region more than once! Poor Nando didn’t even get mentioned by Ash or Dawn… He didn’t appear in a flashback. That was honestly the most disappointing thing to me. 🥺 Poor Nando got done so, SO dirty yet again!
Justice for Nando 😊🫶🏻🎶
The real wasted opportunity was not having Roxie return so she could not only battle Piers but also give her a Gmax Toxtricity, So that’s what Ryme was for!
This mon wasn't exactly mishandled but I did find it weird what happened with them. Infernape. I get the rest of Ash's old mons not really appearing until Aim To Be A Pokemon Master. But them having a whole episode for Infernape really made it feel like it was going to have some other purpose (*cough cough* bringing it to the Cynthia fight *cough cough*). Greninja is the only other old Ash mon to have some real significance in a Journey's episode and there is was pretty clearly shown it was brought it to help Lucario. Infernape just has an episode to itself for seemingly no reason apart from that it's cool.
And he didn't really get to do much because Gary popped out and hopped into his fight with Moltres.
Like it’s genuinely so bizarre to me how they made an episode about Infernape actively searching for stronger opponents by himself and Ash doesn’t do anything about it? Like bro Ash in any other series would see Infernape’s fiery spirit and put him on the squad frame one
Yeah grookey is the starter that had the worst treatment in the anime and grookey used to be my least favorite starter . But the anime(minus leons rillaboom) did the line dirty. Even drizzile was mistreated too
They really did Ash’s Greninja dirty, tbh. They retconned the battle bond form along with not having him rejoin Ash. All he was really used for was boosting the power of Ash's Lucario and that's it.
I'd rather see Suicune as a wild mon than getting caught by Goh. Such a waste of potential. Projects of Mew is a waste of time as well..
5:21 And to make the lack of payoff for Chloe and her Eevee even worse is Terastallization was revealed TWO DAYS before that episode.
6:11, when seeing this for the first time in pokemon journey's, I initally thought that Goh was going to catch a Regigas.
In my mind, I thought that during the project mew story arc, Regigas, acting as some form of protector, would become final obstacle keeping Goh from re-uniting with mew on far away island.
Regigias would be Goh's ultimate challenge, equivalent to how Leon was Ash's ultimate battle, in which Goh would raid battle Regigigas, and eventually capture him.
Unfortunately this never happened.
2:40 especially when Rillaboom is such a strong Pokémon in the anime.
Ash - Grookey
Chloe - Sobble
Goh - Scorbunny
It hurts to think about how incredible JN *could've* been 😭
so much potential man😔
Did not regret dropping Journeys
Greninja not rejoining Ash's team was frustrating as well.
i think they would have just made a 2 season arc for galar ( where he would be league winner ) and then another like 40 60 episodes with ash building his ultimate to with the champions league ( he would battle some known elite fours like flint agatha koga and former champions like alder and wallace )
The Biggest JN mistake is giving away eevee that capable of gigantamax to trainer who doesnt like pokemon battle
I say project mew because it was the worst because goh got missed ash battle against Leon and it about catching mew but they didn’t
I wished Sobble and Drizzoile had more screen time instead of Grooky😭
Definitely SIRFECTH & EEVEE
I genuinely don’t know why they didn’t let Goh’s Grookey develop and evolve like Cinderace and Inteleon. I guess it has to be because he can be a “mascot” but still. At least Leon got to show off how cool Rillaboom is
I'm telling you Ash should've caught grookey he would've done a lot more if it was his
I think Ash should have caught Scorbunny.
The "Ash gets a Grass Starter" tradition is WAY overused to a point where people are now sick of this trend. It's part of the reason why Liko was given Floragato because no female main protagonist got a current generation Grass-starter (May's Venusaur does not count).
@saitproject Liko got Sprigatito because girls like cats. Also noone is sick of that trend as a good pokemon is a good pokemon
@@Taydar Let's see:
Kanto: Ash gets a Bulbasaur
Johto: Ash gets a Bayleef
Hoenn: Ash gets a Sceptile while May got a Venusaur
Sinnoh: Ash gets a Torterra
Unova: Ash gets a Snivy
Kalos: Clemont gets a Chespin
Alola: Ash gets a Rowlet
Galar: Goh gets a Grookey
Paldea: Liko gets a Floragato
6 series had Ash get a Grass starter, two series had a male travelling companion get the Grass starter. It took the staff until Horizons for Liko, the female main protagonist, to get a current generation Grass starter (May's Venusaur doesn't count as it was a FireRed LeafGreen promo and May started with Torchic which is now a Blaziken). Proof why everyone is sick of the "Ash gets a Grass Starter tradition".
@saitproject no proof why you got fed up. Nobody else is complaining. In fact he should have got all the grass starters.
5:33 Even with good moments and all such as the Clefairy and them being saved from those Golbat, this episode was 151% POINTLESS! Especially during the Masters 8 Championship! Because not only do we all know Eevee is not going to Evolve at all, but because this filler is the LAST THING we wanna focus on during the Masters 8!
What do you think Pokemon Horizons should and must do to not end like Journeys?
I would love to hear u go on more about all the things that were mishandled by the writers in journeys and rly good job at explaining 👍. Bruh I enjoyed best wishes more than journeys, only the league sucked.
Cloe was the worst character in the entire series imo and her eevee and the build up for them was all for nothing.
Then Dot came along.
Fr@@Taydar
@@Taydar Dot is so much better
@alexwijaya6857 no. All the Horizons characters are so much worse. Painfully slow development does not mitigate a really boring character.
@@Taydar atleast they have development. Chloe is a static character. If She removed from the show, nothing happened. If the horizon trio removed, the story won't move
Ash should've gotten Grookey instead of Goh. It was really wasted by Goh. Out of all the Galar starters, I wanted Ash to have a Rillaboom on his team. It fit's him the Most. If he did, I would've wanted it to see it grow to be as powerful as Leon's Rillaboom, & be even stronger than his. And I wanted him to have Inteleon as well. A new fully evolved water starter would've been perfect for Ash's team. If he did, i'd have liked to have met Ash's Greninja as well. The meeting of the Spy & the Ninja. And he would've have had a fully evolved water starter back at Oak's lab for once. We also could've gotten a glimpse of Dracovish's past life. Dracovish also needed to replace water gun for Hydro Pump. Chloe & Eevee should've been better written. And Team Rocket looked pointless in this series.
Inteleon does have Gmax but giving Ash a GMax Inteleon would have caused it to be hated by everyone as a lazy Greninja rehash.
Rillaboom being given to Ash would have been a lose-lose situation since the "Ash gets a Grass starter" tradition is overused to a point where now fans want someone else other than Ash to get a Grass starter, along with the fact that Rillaboom can potentially recycle plot points from Ash's other Grass starters such as Rowlet and Sceptile.
On top of that, "Ash always has at least one starter" tradition had already gotten tiresome at that point, since he is a Champion.
@NiallKelly I think we can agree that zanolith pokemon journeys rewrite is better than the og
And somehow the Pokemon of the trio in Hz is handled even worse, I don't hate Hz at all but everyone can see this
@@Spider-KidStudiosYT No it's not. You're Just blinded by nostalgia If you think of that
The biggest wasted potential was Ash's final journey not lasting 6 years like his first one in OS did.
How come his tenure ends in a saga that's the one with the lesser episode count? Mid @$$ epilogue.
Bro Ash's final series being so painfully mid was rough to watch week after week, and then the last dozen episodes were what I actually wanted Journeys to be the whole time which just added salt to the wound
Almost all journeys are wasted potential
He should've used his other pokemon
only reason why just show 885 yes out for 91 introduce in gen 8 only 13 were left of anime totaling 78 appear in the anime some did even appear until horizons no help olm behind the scenes was a mess heck only reason why team rocket did have actual pokemon team in this show it was becuase writers want show 885 pokemon in the anime and no help olm people who made pokemon anime didn't thought was ash last anime yeah🤦♂ this why pokemon like my baby grookey got screw over in the anime just ad to ⚔🛡witch funny to me becuase imagine behind the scenes anime who dexit pretty munch made olm and takara tomy mad there not pokemon in⚔🛡 dex so imagine goh who most likely og plan main character goh was always get all 3 galar staters while ash was supposed to be a mentor character but do of whole dexit goh become second protagonist while chole got screw over becuase imagine olm writter had nothing to do with her character and same applies to her eevee,ash mentor was down played in eary to mid tp late of the show and no help olm of numeral issues behind the scenes these include of 1.horrible leadership,2.terrible management,3.mistreatment of their employees,4 not enough pay and layoffs/budget cuts this why journeys had alot isssue olm was on fire behind the scenes heck around near end of journey had/add make 2 clip shows in japan and filler episodes becuase of mess behind the scenes so journeys was a roller coaster watch it and behind of scenes heck at the time writers they fully admit it they had no idea do goh character if does catch mew this was around early to mid of journeys while horzions is doing alot better do the fact was delayed from most like from🍊🍇release dates to aprill of last year 2023 for 🗾 while dub in usa march of 2024/this year horizon doing a lot better then journeys and doing it own thing with some elements of sv 99% it’s own thing which i am happy 👍most of merch base on horizon 👍
"while ash was supposed to be a mentor character but do of whole dexit goh become second protagonist while chole got screw over becuase imagine olm writter had nothing to do with her character and same applies to her eevee,ash mentor was down played in eary to mid tp late of the show" Did Ash teach Goh anything at all?
@@spinotikus1518 this just theory/speculation
@@tristennorris3725 I also have a theory that the creators initially planned to introduce a new evolution of Eevee, but ultimately abandoned this idea.🙄
@@spinotikus1518 I agree scrap most likely do they fact who going fit with chole character and gamefreak and Pokémon company very picky and same applies typing unless part of gimmick
It ain’t that deep 💀