The Most Popular Cinema Cameras (Part 1): Arri, Sony, Red
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I’ll go over a few of the most popular cinema cameras which are used in the film and commercials industry. I’ll look at a variety of cameras, in different formats, and go over their ergonomics as well as the look which each can generate.
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0:00 Introduction
0:38 Arri Alexa Mini
4:04 Arriflex 416
6:08 Sony Venice
8:55 Red Komodo
10:51 Conclusion
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"The camera is an important component in cinematography."
Dang, I didn't think we'd get THIS in-depth.
"the camera is an important component in cinematography" .... priceless 👍
It's not a joke. There's a lot more to cinematohraphy
You are right sir
But it costs thousands of dollars
I would rather say the most important
Как же я ору
This actually looks like it could be a super cool video series where you analyze how the most popular camera/film technology has affected the expression of different filmmakers.
That's a good idea! Would be useful to have one about film stocks
I agree
I'm a Brazilian working tô become a DP someday, but at the region I live in, there's not much oportunity tô use those high-end câmeras and lenses (used the bmpcc a lot) this kind of series is great for giving us the knowledge, once we have the oportunity tô work with those equipments , to choose the right equipment to the project.
No words to describe how thankfull I'm right now, please keep going!
Yes I agree, this is what’s beautiful about a community!
I can’t even imagine people from previous generations who started without all this information available for free on the internet and camera not being as accessible as today.
@@oniriscope absolutelly! A lot of bad things happening hahaha, but I guess we can't complain in that regard
All the best to you. May you make some beautiful images in films👍👍
@@adityaparmar6433 hey, thanks dude! Wish all the best to you too
Wish you all the best. Never give up. One day you might become as famous as Claudio Miranda, who is also from South America.
Been quite some time, good to have you back!
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Since there’s not much videos on the platform about Film cameras and even less about post production of analog film, your video is really appreciated mate!
Thank you for another brilliant video! Your channel is a real gem; you manage to find info that no other channel explores, and turn it into in-depth, yet concise, asethtically appealing, and engaging short videos about the making of cinema. It’s a valuable talent and I greatly appreciate what you’re doing!
P.S. after doing your series on lenses and cameras, would you be able to do one on film stocks?
I love this channel! Thanks for the effort you put into it.
I'm so happy this came out, thank you so much IDC
This series is astonishing! Please make 20 parts :P
Great video IDC. Keep up the great work!
Amazing video - one my favorites of yours, so far! As a film nerd, I'd love to see videos going through histories of film stocks or film cinema cameras - something like that! Keep up the awesome work!
Thank you good sir for these videos. They are a huge blessing to us
Love this channel. I love to hear about the behind the scene and the process of how a movie was made.
It's always a pleasure to see your videos
Videos are great and super informative. Would love to see you go over different rigs and accessories, their functions and aesthetic applications, etc. Thanks!
Fantastic as always
Great start of a hopefully longlasting series!
Maybe you could add a series where you do the oppsite, look at a single movie (or like in this video) and explain the camera, lens and codec/film choice.
Your passion never fails to enthrall me.
Omg more of these videos pls this is awesome and super informative. Could you talk about some film or vintage Cameras in the second or third parts too?
I work @Panavision and you have no idea how helpful this was. I've been asking these questions for years and you just answered them. thanks keep up the great work.
Can you get me a deal on the Millennium dxl2???
Another great one!
Solid video. Im definitely going to subscribe
Great stuff!
so enjoyable, thank you!
Love this. Looking at the Alexa Mini, I love that you mention the card slot placement, but then Arri listens and fixes it, unlike a lot of other companies might have done. Have you ever used Nikon cameras on set? I know you said you love Ai-s Primes, me too!
Excellent stuff 👏
Thanks for upload this video 👍
I never really paid attention much to cameras the fact that I prefer animation but this brought a new perspective to the style I intend to pick up even if it isn't needed.
Great video 👍🏻
Great video as always! Really interesting to get a look into these different cameras and looks.
One thing that was bugging me a little though was that the voice over was panned a little to the right wich was distracting in headphones. Was it done on a field recorder with the built in stereo mic or something? If so I would advice you to use.a mono plugin to get it dead center. In Davinci resolve f.ex. I would use the "fill left" audio to put the right channel (the loudest) in both channels. Other than that, great :)
excelent as usual
Your voice is just so calming xD
great help...thanks
I like your work my friend
That blue color is so calming
This may be the perfect camera comparison video.
When you said the Alexa Mini has one noticeable flaw I thought you were going to bring up the card slot. The bane of my life whenever I'm loading haha.
Hey Bro, I like your work! I love ARRI
ARRI epic . The Red cam is definitely up there too 💯💯💯
fantastic video guys !!! cheers to the team ! can you guys do what indian films uses , I am from India a writer and filmmaker on the verge of starting my career
My dream is to shoot on a Panaflex. All my favorite films have been shot on them. I think it has a look that _still_ can't be fully replicated to this day even with the best digital cameras and colorists.
Thanks
I love all the use of Rachel Morrison in these images haha, but her cinematography speaks for itself!
00:19 ha I had a RED One. Beautiful image, extremely heavy.
Have you ever worked with C500 mark II and what are you’re thoughts on canon cameras and lenses ?
What are your views on Arri's Alexa 65 camera?
Could you please do a video on the Most popular mirrorless cameras? Like the Panasonic GH5 & Black Magic Pocket Cinema camera 4K.
Worth noting that the color differences between modern cinema cameras (digital and celluloid) are becoming less important, with tools like FilmConvert and CineMatch that allow you to transform the colors of your source footage to nearly any other target camera or film stock
Silence Brand.
Arris' PL mount is today something of an industry standard in the film world and many lens manufacturers, such as Canon, Leica and Zeiss, have PL lenses in their range. The new mount is called LPL (large PL) and is wider (67 mm) and has a shorter index distance than the PL mount, this makes it easier to construct bright lenses. The combination of larger sensor and larger maximum aperture can make a big difference in how shallow depth of field and background sharpness can be achieved.
Can you do a "commercial" only camera and lenses video, where you discuss the most popular glass and cameras that professionals use to make high end commercials?
Interesting watching this then wondering which of my favourite films use which cameras just judging by the finalised 'look'
Nothing has surpassed Arri Alexa. The inly camwra that equals it is the Panavision Millennium dxl2. It's not for sale, rental only. It uses a Red Monstro 8k sensor. It was used to shoot Amazon's 'Tales from the Loop'. Stunning.
I'm curious abt Arri 416. If it records image to film, how it can have sdi out for video monitoring?
Lumix s1h is awesome you should try it !
waiting for part 2
when will we get a camera with a 17 or 18 stop dynamic range?
Your Honor footage ;) nice.
Super interesting learning about these, and that small RED camera (didn't think RED would be making much of any headway in professional applications tbh).
So the width of a 35mm full frame sensor (assuming that's what the Arri mini is) is really about 28mm or so? I just discovered the other day that film for cinema cameras was usually fed vertically, not horizontally. So that should change what to expect in sensor dimensions from a FF 35MM unless it's really Super 35.
Hi sir I'm from india thanks you so much for information about cinema cameras 📷❤️
I hope in a next part you mention the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera. I havent used it yet but i hope to for future projects because i have heard good things about it.
Story matters most.
No SDI on a 416 just regular SD analogue video on a bnc. Still nice info overall. Keep it up.
What an amazing and interesting video. However, one major complaint and/or criticism is that now I feel envious that I don't have/haven't used any of these amazing cameras :(
My short 'Amy's Baby' was shot on an Arri Alexa Mini. I almost teared up looking at the image right out of the camera. It was that good.
Fascinating stuff. You don’t seem to hear much convo about cameras before the digital revolutionize I’ve noticed. I do wonder what would’ve deterred camera choice for a shoot when everything was still on film?
Hey Zach! You're right. I think a lot of choosing film cameras came down to ease of use (how good is the video tap, how clear is the viewfinder, is it easy to reconfigure into different camera builds, is it light, easy to reload, etc.) as well as their specs (frames per second, 3 or 4 perf, sync sound capable, speed ramping, etc.). Also what lenses/mount was used (Panavision lenses with a PV mount or PL lenses on an Arri camera).
I would add one extra choice. Nowadays we don't think about it that much unless we are in a conversation about the look, but in film, the size of the film would matter a lot. From 16, to Super 16, Super 35, Vistavision, Super Panavision 70mm, Ultra Panavision 70mm or even IMAX when it was introduced in the late 80s.
Now, we can record in 4k in almost every camera, and, except for the look and the lens difference, we don't think about the sensor size that much. But back then, lens choice would mean more money on film, different editing equipment...
@@InDepthCine now here’s something I’d be amazed to see someday, a camera that can shoot both film and digital, either at the same time or separately haha. I’m actually surprised that’s not a thing yet
@@zacharyantle7940 Too expensive. What would be nice is a newer film camera that has a good monitor system that actually looks great. People sometimes hesitate about shooting film because the monitor gives them a look they don't like. Even if the actual film looks better than a digital image. The speed of their minds makes them think that what they see in the monitor is the real thing...
Great video! I'd suggest using a little more upbeat music, a lo-fi hip hop beat would be cool
Totally disagree.
Music is irrelevant here. Content is the main deal.
Where does the thumbnail come from ?
Someone knows the Movie title of the frame used in the thumbnail?
Ok I'm really confused. At 6:15 you call Venice a large format but the text says full frame. Later you show several "large format" cameras but sensor sizes are all regular dslr full-frame except alexa 65. At 9:03 you call Komodo a Super 35 but quote at 10:20 says full-sized.
From which movie is screenshot on cover of clip?☝️
wait why is iso so low on the arri
Can you explain about the global shutter? 09:24 tnx
I want more camera video
I don't want to see you get sucked into the gear based vortex of filmmaking youtube. That being said, your insight is great and I would love to hear you speak about the language of cinema and how different DOPs use that language to communicate different things.
He has spoken about dops with directors on previous videos. And signatures they add to each other's work. Worth it.
Include the Red Ranger Series next time 👍😎
Typo at 06:53 - The Alexa Mini shoots at 3.2K. Not 3.4K
Not with a raw licence. The Mini can shoot 16:9 Prores at up to 3.2k (3200x1800), but going open-gate ARRIRAW can get you 3.4k (3424 x 2202).
more red camers pls
they are good and some mirrorless or dslr that i have chosen for my work
Which Mirrorless are u using mostly?
@@jv8studios canon EOS R
Please more
at 6:28 am i seeing it right that the sensor of the camera is a separated part from the front of the Camera where the lens is? never mind... it is explained
ya BMPCC 4K 6k ,6K pr pls make video on that pls
Fast forward to Oct 2022 and DPs are choosing Zcam F6 over the Komodo... which wouldn't exist if Zcam hadn't carved a new lane in compact cinema shooting that didn't exist before.
Great video. What is EI @3:18?
exposure index..base iso in camera..my Sony has 2 base isos..when you using EI you can't shoot at anything else but native ISO unlike in the normal mode like dlsr or mirrorless camera you can pick different ISOs above and below native ISO..is actually something amazing to use and you always give max DR out of your camera with the lowest noise floor possible (with good lighting of course)
Who is the narrator for this video?
c500mk ii pleaseeee
You forgot the true king: Panasonic VariCam.
Yeah it's pretty great, especially in low light. Just finished up working on a tv drama series with 3x Panasonic Varicam LT
Please Do canon c500 mark 2
What was the standard or default camera before Arri came into the picture?
Panavision.
I'd love to see you talk about the Panaflex XL2 from Panavision.
Are you referring to the Panavision Millennium dxl2? That uses a Monstro 8k sensor, and image is... beautiful. Equals the Alexa IMO.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 Sadly, no. I was referring to the Panaflex Millennium XL2, a 35mm film camera that's been used on multiple movies including:
- Star Trek 09
- Iron Man 2
- Thor
- Man of Steel
- Star Trek Into Darkness
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2
- Cinderella
- Mission: Impossible 4, 5 & 6
- Spectre
- Batman v Superman
- Wonder Woman & WW84
- Ready Player One
- Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker
Among others.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 Hope this was helpful. 🙂
@@scottslotterbeck3796 sadly today standard is digital just to mimic film look
@@SuperSy99 We are used to film. And film is beautiful, abd renders skin tones remarkably well. The Arri Alexa comes very close.
Hey, I love your Videos as always but I have got 2 questions I couldn‘t really find an answer for online.
First question:
Where does the „super“ name come from? Super 16 and super 35 mm sensor / film stock sizes aren‘t actually 16 mm or 35 mm in width, which is confusing to me.
Second question:
What is the definite difference between ISO and EI? What I have read online is that the Exposure Index isn‘t actually the same as ISO. Because you can‘t really change a cameras sensor base sensitivity. The only thing you can do is amplify the sensor (That‘s what happens when you increase ISO)
Regarding the "SUPER" prefix in sensor sizes and film stocks.
I go back to shooting Super 8 in the 70's, including Anamorphic!
Before Super 8, there was Regular 8mm amateur film.
Reg 8 was 16mm film with a smaller perforation size on both sides. The film was on a small spool and was exposed twice in the camera, then slit down the middle and joined in the Lab. Around 1965, Kodak introduced Super 8 mm film in a cartridge, it had smaller perforations for increased image area (4x5.4mm)
16mm film had the same evolution, Super 16 got a larger image area by having only single sided perforations. Super 35mm followed the same philosophy, by using stock with increased image area.
The names of Digital sensors are referenced to the Film Guages respectively. Full Frame being equivalent to an image area of film 36x24mm. Super 35mm is actualy closer to the APSC sensor size used in DSLR's. This is because 35mm motion picture cameras run the stock vertically with a 4 perf pull down, as opposed to Still Film Cameras which shoot the Full Frame with 8 perf horizontal (called Vistavision in Cine format developed by Paramount for large format film aquisition)
@@SergeGolikov I love this about this community, thank you for the valuable insight!
@@SergeGolikov Thank you for that awesome reply. Great insight on how film worked back in the old days 🙌🙌🙌
I’m interested in hearing your views on the Arri Mini Lf and Canon c300 ii or iii!
Good point ! What about the Sony A7siii
@@jv8studios Clearly stated "film and commercial industry" Might get shoo'ed along if you showed up with a A7siii even if the finished results are exceptional.
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Well, by that logic you can say blackmagic 6k pro is not cinema camera.
@@ajinkyathorat7502 I think you're right, showing up with a blackmagic pocket anything is not going to impress a high end client at all.
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What do you mean by high end client, like movie or tv show then no camera other than arri or sony venice going to be impressive.
Do you know about genuine 35mm cameras?
IMAX cameras would be interesting
What are ten tips for student filmmakers to take their filming to the next level?
Practice Practice Practice. The more you film, the better you'll get.
Have you ever wondered what the result would look if using a cinema camera for stop motion?
New to filmmaking here! Does anyone know how I can keep my shots visually consistent when shooting on set?
Simplify your lighting.
False colours are great for this. It takes away the guess work and need for a light meter. A lot of cameras come with false colours built in, and it's available on a lot of external monitor/recorders. You need to do a few tests to work out what it all means
@@nukliozz like if I were to change lenses or use different F stops I notice the look changes and I don’t know how to keep it consistent. When I’m in post I’ll have scenes lighter in one and darker in others.
@@chrisfern4699 I think it's John Seale who said this. Basically he shoots with higher ISO at all times and just uses NDs. So instead shifting between two different film stocks like 200 and 800, he choses higher one at all times like 800 ISO.
He made an hour long talk about the production of Mad Max Fury Road and I think it is fascinating. He talked about challenges and advantages of shifting workflow to digital and things he learned at production.
@@chrisfern4699 It's all about limiting yourself. Use 1 lens for example. Max 2 lenses. Do not rely on the general rules. Trust in what your eye sees in the monitor. Keep it simple.
I only know the name ISO so what does EI and ASA stand for?
ISO pretty much equals ASA.
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Great video. Could you do a comparison of the best cinema cameras under $10k or $8k and include blackmagic 6k pro? I'm looking to buy a cinema camera under $10k but I'm undecided.
Fx6 c300 mk2?
There's a load of channels covering that kind of camera (Gerald Undone probably being the most in-depth IMO), what makes this channel unique is that it purely covers actual cinema industry cameras.
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Both of them are not close to blackmagic 6k pro.
Theres tha Arri alexa then There’s every thing else.
Try the Panavision Millennium dxl2. It equals the Alexa. Red has caught up. 'At Eternity's Gate' was shot on a Red. Beautiful. I would not hesitate to shoot on a Red now.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 I’ve used it, great camera, not at all like an Alexa, very differentf looks. It’s based on a RED sensor but w Panavision/lightiron color . It still carries a lot of the RED personality in its look but it is much better than a red, it only in its look but it’s user friendliness
@@drsus0 Lucky man! I only own a GH5, which is fine for the short films I do. I have friends who own Reds, though, so I could hire them.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 well, the dxl2 you can rent as well ;) ... in fact, as with all panavision cameras, that’s the only way anyone gets to use one, renting them.
explain all ARRI cameras
Just a request, when you mention frame rates, could you please mention from lowest to fastest, instead of just saying the fastest, because some times we want certain scenes or whole movies shot on lower frame rate. Thanks
Sony’s Venice also produces amazing skin tones as well yes?
Menapho, well James Cameron used Sony CineAlta Venice to shoot Avatar 2. So, it must good. I guess.
Film > Digital
You can make one format look like the other, but not both ways. Which technically makes one of them superior.
Hm...interesting, why can’t they just be parallel mediums?
I prefer digital bro
@@Elusive_Pete Which one you talking about Peter? Cause last I checked, many mainstream films are still shot on film without people even realizing. Like DC:s superhero films. Even though I don't like that superhero stuff that much, you can't say that those digitally shot low contrast Marvel movies look better. Also many high end TV shows like HBO:s Succession are shot on film, and you wouldn't realize. All you'll notice is that it looks stunning. Plus, I've never seen a digitally shot movie look like film myself.