$2000 Speakers Vs. $200 Speakers! KEF LS50 Wireless Review!
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- KEF LS50 Wireless Vs. Edifier R2000DB 2000$ Speakers Vs. 200$ Speakers! What's better?
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Let's critique these speakers... by sitting BEHIND THEM.
No no noooo!! It's not fucking called a "tweeter island", it's called a coaxial speaker!😂🔊❤
Doing a speaker review, listening behind the speaker. Game over.
😂😂you make my day😂😂😂
He's listened to be in detail previously dumb ass 😂 There pointed towards the mic/you because you probably haven't
My thought precisely then you instantly know there is no audio knowledge there
@@matthewhorncastle5973 Right...
😂 I don’t think it ever started
No... You're not an audiophile. Far from it. Edifier makes good value products - but they are no where near the performance levels of those KEF's. Start by sitting infront of the speakers... fix the echo in your room... be consistent on your feedback. Nothing can sound a thousand times better and a minute later its marginally better. You also need to educate yourself on how good sound actually sounds.
Okay….
Funizweclive fair points, but in all fairness you need to educate yourself as well.
Edifier makes the Airpulse A80, A100, A200 & A300.
The A100 are half the price of the Keff LSX and in my humble opinion are equal in performance and my personal prefference goes to the Airpulse.
I'm even surprised that there's a response to this, after so long. And incase my comment was taken out of turn, I wasnt trying to sound smart or troll the comments. I made the above comment out of experience, not guess work. I own a few Edifier products, including the above mentioned and have had the Kefs. So using that, as well as my experience of being in the audio hobby for about 2 decades... I'm not just rambling. But, I'll respect your - preference. 👌🏾🙏🏾
very bad editing
I'm pretty sure that proprietary cable was a standard midi cable
Your only argument for the KEF sound is "they sound a 1000 times better"??? That's it, we have to watch 12min of video for that conclusion? If you haven't got the tools to measure the sound at last talk about how the present mids, highs and lows. They are a 1000 times better is something you expect coming from a 10 year old calling himself an audiophile.
Just my honest 2 cents..
Your kind of a dick bro
@@alexanderholley3849 yeah but he's honest tbh
"It does just sound better, a thousand times better"..... as he sits behind the speakers to listen to which ones sound better.....
They just sound better....like a thousand times better........seconds later.....they just sound better....just by a margin.
"I'm an audiophile"
sure
SMALL DICK ALERT
@@luidonaldson1307 no....
They both sound like my headphones. amazing.
lol
Coming up next Ferrari 488 spider v Fiat Panda....but which is best????
lmao😂😂😂
Not an audiophile, but I guess the Panda.
Now you know why hot chicks hang with average looking chicks. Because everyone looks good with a nice piano finish, essentially?
I've never understood these types of speaker comparison. End of the day, for both tests, I was listening to compressed youtube audio coming out of a pair of midrange headphones.
at 9:40 -> " the kefs sound a thousand times better", at 10:35 ->"sound quality, the kefs take it but only marginally." no further comments...
LOL
You say this listening to them through a compressed TH-cam video out of a smart device...
@@youwhatmadeidk sry, didnt know youtube compression changed people's speech. Maybe in the uncompressed version the reviewer was totally coherent in his speech... Man, people just get dumber every second
Rui Lucena I replied to the wrong comment mate sorry.
Judging by the reflections of the sound in your studio, you are busy with reviews in which you yourself do not understand anything.
Sounds 1000x better
A few mins later:
Only marginally...
So one minute the KEF's sound "one thousand" times better, but the next minute they are "only marginally" better sounding. Great review keep it up MarzBar!!!
Wait... sounds “1000x better”, but then “only marginally” on the sound quality?
A lot of talking and not enough music comparison
Not sure you can make a judgement on sound quality if your not listening to that speaker directly, you’d have to be an idiot to buy speakers after listening to them on a video
"I'm an audiophile" say's the guy who's got reflections bouncing all around him.
why are you screaming?
This guy talks louder then the speakers at max volume!!!!
we all know the best way to judge your speakers sound quality is by putting your head between the speakers facing forward. great review!
You’re not an audiophile.
Lol ya should be going BOSE. They the best!!
If he says he is, then he is. A very bright young man!
I'm confused...you firstly said the KEFs sound '1000x better' then near the end of your video you said the KEFs sound 'marginally better'.
Gee Yes , I was about to comment on that too. I think the last statement was more accurate because the Edifier really sounds great also specially for the money.
I was going to say the same exact thing.
Yes, the Kef are better, i own a pair. They cost far more. This guy seems to know nothing what so ever about HiFi, but is an audiophile?
You aren’t an audiophile, you sit behind the speakers when listening to music...
I just do not understand why you would pay 2k for those, for $1000 you can get an insane pair of speakers connected to like a $200 amp that will have way more connectivity and controls than those, and speakers that will blow those out of the water. If you are a true audiophile, thats the way to go. The KEF/all powered speakers are more just for convenience sake than true audio quality.
you are missing the point of an active speaker. Using active crossovers and EQ means you can get so much more from a speaker than using passive crossovers and a single amp channel. Its the combination of streaming, DACs, active EQ, dynamic boost/limiting, phase-corrected-crossovers, and 4 seperate amplifiers all inside a pair of LS50s that makes them special. much more audiophile than say, hooking up a $200 amp to a pair of passive speakers.
I am sorry, but when people do sound tests on nice speakers using a laptop I can't take the test serious. It is just one sound clip of which quality is not known, is it MP3, a CD of FLAC? Then the micky mouse wire setup running to the speakers. I am sorry to say, but I must agree with the majority of the people here this is amateur night..
Kefs sound awesome. You really have to hear them in person. This video does no justice to how good they are.
Hi dude. First you say the KEFS sound like a 1000 times better than the Edifiers, and in the conclusion, you say "the KEFS are best but only marginally? What's up dude? :)
Mick Jagger's lips is just a kid man. :)
this dude doing audio tech... smh .... and with that horrific room echo on top...
This is a bad job of doing a comparison. Just saying, good start if you want to review audio. But please learn from other reviewers.
Beware, both the video and the comments section are a hot mess...
Instead, put your current speakers on stands, get them away from the walls, angle them to the listening position, and enjoy the music ;)
Wow, that's some not great reviewing. 10 second comparison of different parts of the track and not going back and forth to hear the real difference.
Marginally but 1000X’s marginally better. LOL!!!!! 😂
Put speakers asymmetrically for equal stage width.
Thanks for your video, great presentation about their features. Anyway felt that the sound demo. was too short for me to notice the great difference in sound you heard. Cheers.
if you are and audiophile than I could be a unicorn
Sorry but you have no idea what constitutes good audio, who are you trying to emulate?...be yourself.
You said the Kef sounds 1000x better, and then later only marginally?
Also the song is Two Feet - Quick Musical Doodle
Reviewing speakers from behind them with the speakers facing out into an untreated room. Dear oh dear.
Last thing I’ll do is seating behind the speaker and nod my head pretending that I’m listen to sound quality!
The kefs sound much better..Like 1000 times better!! Then in your next breath the kefs only sound marginally better ffs make your mind up!
$200 speaker, that track sound better. What an idiot
Those KEF speakers remind me so much of the Bang and Olufsen speakers which I find to be the standard for music. They too have much of the same tech along with anodized aluminum housings, adaptive bass, party mode, WISA tech that doesn't lose quality of music over WiFi, excursion protection, thermal protection, and Acoustic Lens Technology. It's nice to find a brand that can bring similar qualities as Bang and Olufsen. Great Job Alex, your videos are awesome!
judging sound quality from sitting behind the speakers?
So this man can review speakers by sitting behind them, also speaker positioning not his strong point. Or maybe he just doesn’t know.
Young un’s these days ...
I have KEF 104.2 Speakers for the last 30 years. And play them to this day (2018) And love the sound.
Once you hear a kef it hard to go back
It's sounds 1000X better but it is just marginally better. What!!?
EEEEEEEEEEEEEthernet & Plethora not Eh!thernet & Pelithora
I like how you're comparing the sound of two speakers while sitting to the side of the speakers (very far off axis) which gives you a completely inaccurate representation of their sound.
9:28 starts comparing speakers & evaluates with speakers pointing away from his ears....
Stick to what you know, if you know anything at all, cus this aint it
Thanks, great review! Any of those speakers can connect left to right wirelessly or do we always need cables?
Stop shouting
Man, fix the room’s acoustics asap.
Actually The kefs do not do airplay. More a Hi-Fi streaming solution, Roon endpoint. You have to sit in front of the speakers to really appreciate them, especially the image the coax driver of the kefs can deliver. The kefs have a Truly amazing soundstage.
Once you set up a speaker you never go near it again...so all that touch screen crap is clickbait bollocks...the source is 90% of your final sound the speaker is a delivery system so marginal gains in sound and the top end sounded muggy enough on the KEF's (which is probably more down to matey boys ability to tune them properly) makes them expensive gimmick speakers There are speakers in the €500 range that would blow them out of the water minus the gimmicky controls
First time I see somebody testing speakers from behind :-) I hope it is only for the presentation of the products ;-)
At laaaaaaaast. Two feet for sound demo and not some trap crap.
Congrats young mate. I personally thank you for that. !!!!!
The LS50Ws have a wide soundstage, very open, details can be heard, they are steep for the price tag but personally I think they are worth it.
If you are and audiophile i wonder what experience you have and the gear you uses and why.also cables you bougth and why?
You said the KEFs were 1000x better when listening to them but then at the end you said the sound quality was only marginally better?
When did 220GBP become 200 USD?
Saulius A makes the title better innit
Why didn’t you just get some half decent pair of studio monitors and a 32 band eq and colour the sound to your liking
And that isn’t a proprietary cable it’s a midi cable
Don't confuse the poor lad, his 'audiophile' knowledge goes as far as well marketed consumer based gear
Leo Do you know anyone who produces graphic EQs these days, I mentioned them in a hifi shop recently and the assistant looked horrified..I like to tailor the sound to my liking.
James Fellows gear4music usually has a good selection that website sells just about everything Music related
So how does that tweeter set back in the the woofer affect the phase alignment? I have Vandersteen 2Ci's. The difference from my old AR-11s was amazing. It dramatically changed the sound of the triangle in Stand by Me by Ben E King.
Ridicuolus listening position, its like to watch TV from behind...
Wow, the audio on this is fucking terrible.
I have the LS50's and they are awesome - I chose to go with the non-wireless versions in gunmetal grey. Don't hesitate to buy these speakers - they love my Zep, my Mahler and my Miles.
YOUR SOUND WAS MORE LONG THAN THE DEMO YOU PROVIDED. YOU ARE A GOOD SPEAKER.
I find your tech videos very interesting, however I couldn't help but notice you saying that the "[KEF LS50s sound] one thousand times better [than the Edifier R2000DBs]", then seemingly contradict that. When later referring to sound quality you said "the KEFs take it again, but only marginally". Which one should I believe? Am I missing something?
Oh also, an RJ45 ethernet cable, which is the kind the KEFs use, should be able to carry data over 100m or so. It might pick up a lot of electrical noise on the way though, so it's best to use a high quality, well shielded cable if you wanna run it that far.
Holes, holes everywhere!
Practically, obviously, a useless comparison, yet neatly brought and a lot of fun to watch!
Btw, the KEFs sounds "a thousand times better" but take the win only marginally?
How can you testing these speakers by siting behind them ?
Tweeter island??? Where did you get that from. It is called a Uni-q driver. Also believe the USB port would allow you to connect a PC to the speakers and use the inbuilt DAC. Apart from that good choice on KEF ls50s they are a great speaker.
You may be a lot of things but you are not an Audiophile.
Yes, he is. Maybe he's not an audio-expert, to your standards. But being a '-phile' just means someone is very fond of or in love with whatever the 'phile' is aimed at.. In itself it says nothing about the level of expertise. :)
There is something wrong here : the Edifier sounds sharp, clear and dynamic. But when you switch to the KEF, the sound is very compressed and blurred and not punchy at all. I know the KEF LS50 should sound much better than that. Did you use the exact same mic position and settings for both pairs of speakers ? All I can say is the Edifiers, as they were recorded here, sounds much better than the KEF, which should not be the case.
I'm listening to it on a reasonably high-quality hifi system with tube amplification and the Edifiers sounded much better to me, also.
The edifiers default setting is dynamic mode. This is its dsp which allows it to sound artificially more dynamic with boosted lows and highs. Switch it to classic mode and it will sound flatter like the kefs.
I'm glad you said that because I thought the same thing. Although I dismissed the whole test. Listening to a pair of speakers through a microphone then a set of headphones. Also youtube compression. It's just ridiculous.
Most of the shortcomings in this post have already been highlighted but I didn't find reference to the fact that TH-cam process all the audio that's uploaded thereby rendering any comparison meaningless.
why is he saying Ethernet so weird ?
Mate, you need to fix the acoustics. You voice bounces all over the place. Very bad sound experience on a well made movie otherwise.
im not sure your sound demo is relevent to anyone who is not in the room, you didnt talk about fidelity settings with the kef
How was the toilet when you were involved in the making of Flushed Away?
wow this is not a speaker review
Why is someone whose video has terrible audio reviewing speakers?
This really comes down to the person.. I have always considered my self an audiophile... I have been huge into car audio for over 25 years.. it was only 8 years ago I got into SQ competition and learned so much more about what to listen for. You have to have a trained ear to really appreciate what a higher end audio system gives you. When you understand what you are hearing it takes things to a whole new level. I use the KEF Q series for home audio.. it's nice stuff.
Edifier does not have a big heatsink because it uses a class D amp w/c runs cooler over the competition :) Sound over performance, Edifier is the perfect choice. Cheaper but does sound great for the price :)
THIS IS NOT A RADIO SHOW NO NEED TO SCREAAAAAAAAAAAAM !!!!!!!!!!!
The Kef's win on sound "Only marginally"...
lol
I'm using a pair of studio headphones and tbh they sound very similar. I think you need to find a better way of testing them Alex.
1" vented aluminum dome tweeter
frequency response: 79-28,000 Hz (±3 dB)
sensitivity: 85 dB.
Thanks to KEF for sponsoring this video.
1. Stop shouting
2. Learn the proper way to test a speaker
3. Learn the proper way to shoot a video
4. Reshoot
Josef CK Ngai Right. Tested with only one track and with only one microphone! Didn’t even talk about frequency response of the speakers either.
Are you getting the new MacBook Pro 2018
Wow, no comparison. Immediately heard a lot more sounds drowned out by the Edifiers bass. Even over the internet to my headphones, it's apparent the Kefs are much better at imaging, detail etc.
If you're going to review hifi/audiophile gear, your audio has to be on the better side of decent. It's not. The reverb from the room is atrocious. Please spend some money on room dampening.
totally agree, this was a horrid listen.
agreed, this is how it should sound minimum. vimeo.com/290154524
Yup. Gain was up and down and there was clipping at times. Very amateur.
He needs to spend money on educating himself first.... because with his audio - knowledge, who the hell knows what he will use as dampers.
Both sound good. Go for the cheap ones.
Bought both speakers 'couse daddy is fully loaded...😃
I have the bose companion 20 speakers and I use them for gaming cost £200 and sound incredible no subwoofer needed and has a control pod