Before I get inundated with corrections I realise a couple of slips of the tongue in the video, after it had rendered and uploaded. Firstly i referred to six bolts in the bracket instead of four. Secondly when fitting the screen I called the fixings castle nuts, when they are quite obviously Well nuts. I blame it on my cold. ;)
I just wanted to report back on my 790 ADV windshields to date. So far, to try and eliminate the buffeting that ranged from an annoying buzz to making me feel like a bobble head doll, I’ve tried: Madstad, Givi Touring, Givi Airflow, MRA Touring, as well as the stock tall screen, and the short one off my 390 ADV. Some were better than others, the Madstad and the MRA Touring were the best, but the solution to the buffeting was to remove the two “winglets” under the headlight nacelle. Problem solved ! (I have to admit I read of someone else doing this, so I gave it a try.) While at speeds above 60mph I placed my hand above the gap between the forks and the tank with the “winglets” in place and could feel the buffeting coming up “behind” the windshield and dash !!! I’ve stayed with the MRA Touring screen as it seems to give the smoothes air flow and is not as heavy as the Madstad. Hope this helps anyone else who has been fighting this problem😉👍
I can certainly agree that the original screen on my 790 Adventure created a a lot of buffeting at highway speeds and danced around like it was possessed 🤪. Presently I’m trying out one of the Madstad Engineering adjustable screens. The fact that it’s adjustable for height and tilt seems to give me options for more air in the summer, and more protection in the winter.....but time will tell 😉👍🏍.
In the States I have to travel many hundreds of miles, much of which can be on dual carriageways, just to get where the “fun” riding really starts. It often requires long runs of speeds of 75-80 mph just to not get run over in traffic. I have yet to get a 790 and the wind protection has been the reason I’ve held off. Your review is encouraging. Seems like the 790/MRA combo might be a winner.
Cheers Tony, just fitted the clear touring screen to my 890ADV. My only regret is that I should have gone for the smoke grey or solid black one. Either way, very pleased with the upgrade.
Another great review, the KTM screen does wobble and you have given me some food for thought. Please keep us updated on how you get on with the MRA, thank you.
Thanks for the review. Subscribed. Based on this I ordered the MRA touring screen for my 790S. It looks great on the bike, better than the skinny stock screen IMO, and better than some of the other options, such as Puig and Givi and is rock solid with quality fittings. The Puig screen has received some positive reviews on TH-cam, although it uses the stock fitting, which was a concern, but in the end I couldn’t find one in stock at the gear stores I use in the US, so this was a nice pointer to another option. The MRA touring screen is surprisingly not any taller than the stock S screen in its high position. I found it improved wind noise at cruising speed below 50. Above that speed it’s a marginal improvement. Buffeting is still an issue on windy days at highway speeds in traffic, and that’s not going away on this bike. I tried a cheap clip-on visor with a a single central mounting and agree it felt too unstable on the stock screen. i will try it with this more solid mounted screen, and if it improves things will order a nicer MRA visor for highway cruising. BTW I am 5’10”, 32” inseam.
Thanks. your measurements match mine. I still get wind noise from this, but not the buffeting that the stock screen gave. I appreciate going with the short screen is a compromise, but I'm not a fan of tall screens. I'm going to order an MRA VSA spoiler to clip on for when i'm doing extended motorway runs, and maybe for a bit more protection in the winter?
I got an MRA X-Creen Sport Add-On Variable Windscreen Spoiler for my last two bikes. They're made in Germany, adjustable, and can be both clamped and bolted on. Fixed my buffeting issues on both bikes. And no need to buy a new windscreen. No regrets. 👍
I've since fitted on to this screen for long motorway based trips, and yes I agree its a fantastic piece of kit. The only issue with putting one on the stock KTM screen is that it wobbles a lot because of the screens fixing.
@@mancavemoto Nice! What about attaching the spoiler to the MRA Sport Screen instead of the stock one, since the MRA screen has a more robust mounting system?
Thanks for the video, Tony. It makes me wonder why manufacturers don't do a bit more homework on the standard screens they supply with their bikes. I've yet to see a bike review where the reviewer is happy with the standard screen on any bike. People like MRA almost invariably come up with a better after market solution, so why not do the research and fit a better shaped screen as standard? Surely a slightly wider/taller/better shaped/more secure screen at the point of manufacture won't make the bike that much more expensive.
Yep its a good point, its rare that I've got one with a stock screen. The Tiger 800 wasn't too bad and the new 900 is pretty good. Theres always going to be some wind noise, but its the buffeting that can be a real problem when riding distances. I wonder if manufacturers do much wind tunnel modelling? Mind you I guess they need to find a solution that works with the majority of riders
I sold my 790 adventure...one of the main reasons was the buffeting from the screen. Tried all the aftermarket screens available at the time and nothing improved it...MRA didn’t have a screen at the time...used a MRA screen with a Gs and that sorted the buffeting on that👍
Nice review Tony. I think peaked helmets and adventure bikes often have this issue. I fitted the x creen sport deflector to my 850gs and with my arai x4 can now ride at 50mph with the visor up with no issues and it has made a massive difference when touring. I didn't drill it on so it's easily removed if needed. I agree it also looks neater than the givi one 👍🇬🇧
Yep, functionality is the main concern i guess. I'm just not a fan of tall screens. When it was hot I rode with no screen at all and it works really well
It always feels good when a new piece of kit works out and solves a problem. Sorry to hear about the cold. If you don't mind me asking, what camera and lens combo are you using for your talking shots and kit fitting segments?
Yep, nothing worse than spending money to find it doesn't solve the problem, so I was pleased with this. I use a Nikon Z6 with a 50mm f1.8 for the PTC and fitting footage.
Wondering if the hand guards and mirror stalks clear the side of the screen at full steering lock. I put on a Puig touring, the hand guards cleared but the mirror stalks had to be rotated back a couple of inches to clear. I was looking at the MRA options as well but the US distributors did not offer them for the 790 Adventure. I tried to order directly from MRA but they don't seem to sell direct.
Just fitted one this afternoon to my 790 got it for £50 on eBay as good as new. The weather is pants so haven’t had chance to try it yet.. the only tiny little gripe is that it is the black version so it’s completely dark but does look quite mean. Let you know how I get on. Agree with you about the fit and quality of the parts they are superb.
Great review Riding home yesterday my adv helmet peak was contorting in the wind due to the standard screen. Does the sport really help stop this and why you thought the mra touring screen was not the better option. Love your channel as we seem to be at the same place wth our 790s cheers
Thanks Nigel, yes it worked for me, as I mention in the video I still get wind noise but I've lost the horrible buffeting. I suspect that the touring screen will indeed be a better option in terms of wind protection, but I don't like tall screens so I was trying to find a solution with the lowest screen possible.
Where does the wind deflected by the screen hit you? Is is below the helmet in the shoulder area, bottom or the helmet, visor etc... I'm shorter than you, though often height is more about leg length. I'm deciding between the MRA Sport and the Vario Touring.
It kind of hits the top corners of the helmet if that makes sense. I’ve just added an MRA Vario spoiler to it for longer journeys, so I’ll report back on how that performs
I don’t understand how that helps? I had to sell my 890 Adventurer R 1 month old, because the buffeting was unbearable at higher speeds on my peaked lid. It gave me a splitting headache. Today I test rode a standard 890 which has a taller standard screen, hoping it would be better being taller and it was just as awful. The only solution is to go lower than the standard R screen, so the one in this test is in between the height of the R and S 890 and both of those are awful so how can this screen not be awful if it’s neither taller than the S screen nor shorter than the R?
It’s not so simple as just the height of the screen, the shape a width make a big difference. I’ve tested it for many miles and it was better than either of the stock screens….for me….in the helmet I normally wear. Helmet choice makes a big difference too. I’ve currently got the r screen on and with the peaked Shoei Hornet there’s quite a bit of wind noise, but with the peaked Airoh Commander it’s very quiet.
Hi i'm 5ft 10in or 178cm. As it happens I have recently fitted the touring screen to test and i'm very pleased with it. Similar performance to the sports screen with a blade on the top, but obviously less bulky and neater.
I think the sport one is much better than the Stock one. Its wider, create much less buffeting and is much more solid. Its doesnt wobble and shake like the OEM screen
Sure John, simply because I didn’t want a tall screen. I was looking for the shortest version I could find with a decent level of protection. I also wanted something that didn’t wobble as much as the stock one
Glad you went with a short screen. I loathe tall screens. They ruin the looks of any bike. Now it's mounted it looks pretty good. Something like this should have been on as standard. Did I tell you I've bought a Duke 390?
Yes me too, i'm not a fan. If I need more protection, I'd rather fit a spoiler that I can take off and on when needed. Congratulations the 390 Duke is a great bike, a friend of mine has one and its cracking fun.
@@mancavemoto I also bought a Yamaha Aerox 155 scooter a fortnight before the 390. There isn't a better machine for the city, assuming the traffic is fairly slow. I wouldn't want to ride across London on one, but in Chiang Rai ...
i guess is not useful for the R model because of OEM mirrors. With the S windshield the mirrors touch it and with this being wider, then you will not be able to fully turn the handlebar. Also on MRA website it says this windscreens are not compatible with handlebar risers, another huge mistake. Im seriuosly looking forward to some company making a useful windscreen for the R model without it being the size of the puig, it is just way out of proportion
Not tried it in the R model obviously, but the cut outs on the side mean the mirrors don’t touch the screen on full lock. Obviously bar risers would thrown this out which is why MRA warn against it.
I have an MRA screen on my R nineT Racer and I'm very happy with it. But honestly, with that bike it's more about the looks than practicality. The screen won't save you from the wind at all. XD
Nice video! Informative and enjoyable to watch I've been suffering the buffeting with the standard screen as well and went looking on the MRA website to get this screen following your review. Would you know why they mention on their website that this screen cannot be combined with handlebar risers? Does the handlebar then touch the screen on full lock?
Thanks, yes in think that is the reason, the cutouts on the side of the screen allow for full lock without any contact. If you were to run risers then they wouldn’t line up
The height of the screen is not always directly related to the amount of buffeting. This screen is shorter, but its wider and its shape deflects the air more effectively for me.
Yeah I realised I used the wrong terminology, you can hear my hesitancy. I forgot to correct it in the edit. They are actually Well nuts, not top hat spacers
Before I get inundated with corrections I realise a couple of slips of the tongue in the video, after it had rendered and uploaded. Firstly i referred to six bolts in the bracket instead of four. Secondly when fitting the screen I called the fixings castle nuts, when they are quite obviously Well nuts. I blame it on my cold. ;)
I just wanted to report back on my 790 ADV windshields to date. So far, to try and eliminate the buffeting that ranged from an annoying buzz to making me feel like a bobble head doll, I’ve tried: Madstad, Givi Touring, Givi Airflow, MRA Touring, as well as the stock tall screen, and the short one off my 390 ADV. Some were better than others, the Madstad and the MRA Touring were the best, but the solution to the buffeting was to remove the two “winglets” under the headlight nacelle. Problem solved ! (I have to admit I read of someone else doing this, so I gave it a try.) While at speeds above 60mph I placed my hand above the gap between the forks and the tank with the “winglets” in place and could feel the buffeting coming up “behind” the windshield and dash !!! I’ve stayed with the MRA Touring screen as it seems to give the smoothes air flow and is not as heavy as the Madstad. Hope this helps anyone else who has been fighting this problem😉👍
Thanks for the feedback and thats something I’ve yet to try, but I will give it a go.
Just bought one , will fit on weekend. I really enjoy the reviews , I always use MRA screens superb quality 👍
Thanks, I was really pleased with it. I've switched back to the R screen for looks, but I missed the MRA on a windy blast up the A1 yesterday!
I can certainly agree that the original screen on my 790 Adventure created a a lot of buffeting at highway speeds and danced around like it was possessed 🤪. Presently I’m trying out one of the Madstad Engineering adjustable screens. The fact that it’s adjustable for height and tilt seems to give me options for more air in the summer, and more protection in the winter.....but time will tell 😉👍🏍.
That was another brand I looked at
In the States I have to travel many hundreds of miles, much of which can be on dual carriageways, just to get where the “fun” riding really starts. It often requires long runs of speeds of 75-80 mph just to not get run over in traffic. I have yet to get a 790 and the wind protection has been the reason I’ve held off. Your review is encouraging. Seems like the 790/MRA combo might be a winner.
Thanks, yes it worked well for me, as I say still some wind noise, but not the annoying buffeting and its so much more solid than the stock one!
Cheers Tony, just fitted the clear touring screen to my 890ADV. My only regret is that I should have gone for the smoke grey or solid black one. Either way, very pleased with the upgrade.
Another great review, the KTM screen does wobble and you have given me some food for thought. Please keep us updated on how you get on with the MRA, thank you.
Thanks, Will do!
Thanks for Posting this revue. I will test it at my 790 R 👍‼👋
No problem 👍
Thanks for the review. Subscribed.
Based on this I ordered the MRA touring screen for my 790S. It looks great on the bike, better than the skinny stock screen IMO, and better than some of the other options, such as Puig and Givi and is rock solid with quality fittings. The Puig screen has received some positive reviews on TH-cam, although it uses the stock fitting, which was a concern, but in the end I couldn’t find one in stock at the gear stores I use in the US, so this was a nice pointer to another option. The MRA touring screen is surprisingly not any taller than the stock S screen in its high position. I found it improved wind noise at cruising speed below 50. Above that speed it’s a marginal improvement. Buffeting is still an issue on windy days at highway speeds in traffic, and that’s not going away on this bike.
I tried a cheap clip-on visor with a a single central mounting and agree it felt too unstable on the stock screen. i will try it with this more solid mounted screen, and if it improves things will order a nicer MRA visor for highway cruising.
BTW I am 5’10”, 32” inseam.
Thanks. your measurements match mine. I still get wind noise from this, but not the buffeting that the stock screen gave. I appreciate going with the short screen is a compromise, but I'm not a fan of tall screens. I'm going to order an MRA VSA spoiler to clip on for when i'm doing extended motorway runs, and maybe for a bit more protection in the winter?
I got an MRA X-Creen Sport Add-On Variable Windscreen Spoiler for my last two bikes. They're made in Germany, adjustable, and can be both clamped and bolted on. Fixed my buffeting issues on both bikes. And no need to buy a new windscreen. No regrets. 👍
I've since fitted on to this screen for long motorway based trips, and yes I agree its a fantastic piece of kit. The only issue with putting one on the stock KTM screen is that it wobbles a lot because of the screens fixing.
@@mancavemoto Nice! What about attaching the spoiler to the MRA Sport Screen instead of the stock one, since the MRA screen has a more robust mounting system?
Yes i ended up doing that and it worked very well
Thanks for the video, Tony.
It makes me wonder why manufacturers don't do a bit more homework on the standard screens they supply with their bikes. I've yet to see a bike review where the reviewer is happy with the standard screen on any bike. People like MRA almost invariably come up with a better after market solution, so why not do the research and fit a better shaped screen as standard? Surely a slightly wider/taller/better shaped/more secure screen at the point of manufacture won't make the bike that much more expensive.
Yep its a good point, its rare that I've got one with a stock screen. The Tiger 800 wasn't too bad and the new 900 is pretty good. Theres always going to be some wind noise, but its the buffeting that can be a real problem when riding distances. I wonder if manufacturers do much wind tunnel modelling? Mind you I guess they need to find a solution that works with the majority of riders
I sold my 790 adventure...one of the main reasons was the buffeting from the screen. Tried all the aftermarket screens available at the time and nothing improved it...MRA didn’t have a screen at the time...used a MRA screen with a Gs and that sorted the buffeting on that👍
Great review. It would be great to know your height and inseam length in order to help people gauge how it will work for their dimensions. Thx
Thanks, in 5ft 10 and have a 32 inch inseam
Nice review Tony. I think peaked helmets and adventure bikes often have this issue. I fitted the x creen sport deflector to my 850gs and with my arai x4 can now ride at 50mph with the visor up with no issues and it has made a massive difference when touring. I didn't drill it on so it's easily removed if needed. I agree it also looks neater than the givi one 👍🇬🇧
Thanks for sharing, I think I might give the x-creen a go for some of my longer rides
Its a nice looking screen for sure. I opted for the puig touring screen, its tall and not a looker but it does work well.
Yep, functionality is the main concern i guess. I'm just not a fan of tall screens. When it was hot I rode with no screen at all and it works really well
I’m breaking in my new pistons at the moment. So I’ll be spending the weekend cruising around essex if you’re about
Yeah I should be around this weekend
@@mancavemoto I’ll DM you on messenger mate
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It always feels good when a new piece of kit works out and solves a problem. Sorry to hear about the cold. If you don't mind me asking, what camera and lens combo are you using for your talking shots and kit fitting segments?
Yep, nothing worse than spending money to find it doesn't solve the problem, so I was pleased with this. I use a Nikon Z6 with a 50mm f1.8 for the PTC and fitting footage.
@@mancavemoto Thank you for the camera feedback and I was wondering if you were using a prime lens. Will review.
Great video screen looks far better than the standard one stay safe looking forward to next one 🇬🇧👍🏻
Thanks 👍
MRA screens and are always in my experience great quality and fit. The X screen spoiler is much lighter and so reduces any flex in the screen.
I picked it based on MRA's reputation and I can't say i'm disappointed. A really nice piece of kit that does the job well
thank you for the review, maybe one day will look at it, cheers from Colorado, V!
No problem
Wondering if the hand guards and mirror stalks clear the side of the screen at full steering lock. I put on a Puig touring, the hand guards cleared but the mirror stalks had to be rotated back a couple of inches to clear. I was looking at the MRA options as well but the US distributors did not offer them for the 790 Adventure. I tried to order directly from MRA but they don't seem to sell direct.
Yes they clear them both, its a well designed screen. MRA have a shop on their website here www.mrashop.de/com/model-based-products/
Just fitted one this afternoon to my 790 got it for £50 on eBay as good as new. The weather is pants so haven’t had chance to try it yet.. the only tiny little gripe is that it is the black version so it’s completely dark but does look quite mean. Let you know how I get on. Agree with you about the fit and quality of the parts they are superb.
Nice, yep it’s a great bit of kit. I still might order a VSA-C spoiler to see what it’s like on motorway runs
Great review
Riding home yesterday my adv helmet peak was contorting in the wind due to the standard screen. Does the sport really help stop this and why you thought the mra touring screen was not the better option.
Love your channel as we seem to be at the same place wth our 790s cheers
Thanks Nigel, yes it worked for me, as I mention in the video I still get wind noise but I've lost the horrible buffeting. I suspect that the touring screen will indeed be a better option in terms of wind protection, but I don't like tall screens so I was trying to find a solution with the lowest screen possible.
@@mancavemoto all you need to do now is set up some lights Denali D2 and B 6 rear with the camsmart controller and I will be happy😂😂
Great video. Does the mirror or hand guard hit the screen on full lock?
No, not at all
Where does the wind deflected by the screen hit you? Is is below the helmet in the shoulder area, bottom or the helmet, visor etc... I'm shorter than you, though often height is more about leg length. I'm deciding between the MRA Sport and the Vario Touring.
It kind of hits the top corners of the helmet if that makes sense. I’ve just added an MRA Vario spoiler to it for longer journeys, so I’ll report back on how that performs
Love your 790A! I have the multi 950 and may test ride a 790A.
Cheers, I'd recommend having a test ride
I don’t understand how that helps? I had to sell my 890 Adventurer R 1 month old, because the buffeting was unbearable at higher speeds on my peaked lid. It gave me a splitting headache. Today I test rode a standard 890 which has a taller standard screen, hoping it would be better being taller and it was just as awful. The only solution is to go lower than the standard R screen, so the one in this test is in between the height of the R and S 890 and both of those are awful so how can this screen not be awful if it’s neither taller than the S screen nor shorter than the R?
It’s not so simple as just the height of the screen, the shape a width make a big difference. I’ve tested it for many miles and it was better than either of the stock screens….for me….in the helmet I normally wear. Helmet choice makes a big difference too. I’ve currently got the r screen on and with the peaked Shoei Hornet there’s quite a bit of wind noise, but with the peaked Airoh Commander it’s very quiet.
Hi and thanks for the test. How told are you? Have you tried the touring version?
Hi i'm 5ft 10in or 178cm. As it happens I have recently fitted the touring screen to test and i'm very pleased with it. Similar performance to the sports screen with a blade on the top, but obviously less bulky and neater.
@@mancavemoto Thanks. I am 175. Do you think that the sport one is anyway better than the stock one of model S
I think the sport one is much better than the Stock one. Its wider, create much less buffeting and is much more solid. Its doesnt wobble and shake like the OEM screen
I’m glad it’s better for you, can’t believe the factory one is only held on with 2 bolt! 🙈
1 Bolt!
@@mancavemoto Soz, typo! Must be my Homer Simpson sausage fingers 🤣
Hi just a follow up are you still happy with the sport screen especially for the peaked helmet and did you get the smoked shade. Regards
Hi, yes still very happy with it, I haven’t ordered the spoiler yet, but will get a smoked one to match when i do.
Can I ask why you didn't go for the MRA touring screen ? I'm torn between the two
Sure John, simply because I didn’t want a tall screen. I was looking for the shortest version I could find with a decent level of protection. I also wanted something that didn’t wobble as much as the stock one
Glad you went with a short screen. I loathe tall screens. They ruin the looks of any bike. Now it's mounted it looks pretty good. Something like this should have been on as standard.
Did I tell you I've bought a Duke 390?
Yes me too, i'm not a fan. If I need more protection, I'd rather fit a spoiler that I can take off and on when needed. Congratulations the 390 Duke is a great bike, a friend of mine has one and its cracking fun.
@@mancavemoto I also bought a Yamaha Aerox 155 scooter a fortnight before the 390. There isn't a better machine for the city, assuming the traffic is fairly slow. I wouldn't want to ride across London on one, but in Chiang Rai ...
@@mancavemoto I have also bought a Yamaha Aerox 155 scooter for the city. Unbelievable acceleration from 0-50 kph. Perfect for Chiang Rai.
Sweet
That screen does look nice.
Yes, I think its one of the better looking ones
i guess is not useful for the R model because of OEM mirrors. With the S windshield the mirrors touch it and with this being wider, then you will not be able to fully turn the handlebar. Also on MRA website it says this windscreens are not compatible with handlebar risers, another huge mistake. Im seriuosly looking forward to some company making a useful windscreen for the R model without it being the size of the puig, it is just way out of proportion
Not tried it in the R model obviously, but the cut outs on the side mean the mirrors don’t touch the screen on full lock. Obviously bar risers would thrown this out which is why MRA warn against it.
I have an MRA screen on my R nineT Racer and I'm very happy with it. But honestly, with that bike it's more about the looks than practicality. The screen won't save you from the wind at all. XD
Yeah, I hear you ;)
Nice video! Informative and enjoyable to watch
I've been suffering the buffeting with the standard screen as well and went looking on the MRA website to get this screen following your review.
Would you know why they mention on their website that this screen cannot be combined with handlebar risers? Does the handlebar then touch the screen on full lock?
Thanks, yes in think that is the reason, the cutouts on the side of the screen allow for full lock without any contact. If you were to run risers then they wouldn’t line up
Why would you get a shorter screen if you’re getting buffeting from the higher stock screen?
The height of the screen is not always directly related to the amount of buffeting. This screen is shorter, but its wider and its shape deflects the air more effectively for me.
Good review Tony as always do you drink the beer in that fridge
Or is it just for show 🤣🇬🇧🍺👍🏻Mark
It keeps getting refilled 😉
i need support for my ktm, can i get it on amazon or ebay?
I don't think they have a 'shop' on either, but if you go to the MRA website you can search for your nearest dealer
Thanks.
No worries
Is this bike good for 2 up? been looking a several bikes, including this one.
Yep, I don't see why not. Plenty of grunt and a decent sized pillion seat too
how tall are you?
5ft 10
Sorry mate but those aren't castle nuts. They're just top hat spacers.
Yeah I realised I used the wrong terminology, you can hear my hesitancy. I forgot to correct it in the edit. They are actually Well nuts, not top hat spacers
HI, if you want some modification ideas check out 'codger biker' you tube channel, when he had his 790 adventure did quite a lot to it 👍🏻
Cheers
Thank you for this video as the instructions are gawd awful
No Problem