How the Class 158 and 159 saved Regional Railways

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  • This is a reupload of my original Class 158/159 video, now reedited with new footage.
    Returning to trains, we look at the history of the Class 158 and 159, two diesel multiple units that helped to reverse the fortunes of Britain's regional railways by providing a strong and reliable design to services that had faced years of neglect.
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  • @mjc8281
    @mjc8281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    I worked for regional railways northwest when the 158 came out, it was a step change from what we had had beforehand to be sure. My funniest story one of our drivers was going to Blackpool(I think)and he was going into Preston and at Preston the guard comes up to him and tells him to slow the hell up.....he had forgotten he had a 142 trailing and was heading down the WCML at 90mph with a 142 rocking along at the rear!

    • @vincitveritas3872
      @vincitveritas3872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I can confirm that saw it happen. I'd love to of been on the pacer was my first thought👍

    • @Cactuspowerhousey
      @Cactuspowerhousey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haha!

    • @uncletomo8514
      @uncletomo8514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@vincitveritas3872 I'd love to be on that pacer too

    • @ashleyjiscool
      @ashleyjiscool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      We need to put a 142 behind a hst at 125mph

    • @Sebi1963
      @Sebi1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U can't have a pacer behind a hst cuz they ain't coupling compatable

  • @richardcrossley5581
    @richardcrossley5581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    The Centre carriage of the 158 (3 car) or 159, it's one of the most comfortable and quite seats on the train network. I almost always was asleep before I left Waterloo. Sometimes I'd wait for a Salisbury or Exeter train, rather than take a 444 or 450 with their harder and in the case of the 450 more cramped seats.

    • @thetelephoneprankster4254
      @thetelephoneprankster4254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That is very interesting. I much prefer sleeping on a 444 myself and I’m not keen on diesel trains anyway. I can tell why you find the bulk head seats easier to sleep on

    • @richardcrossley5581
      @richardcrossley5581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Chris Green Hi, I've just been back and checked. At this time point Ruairidh notes that some of the class 158s were 3 car, th-cam.com/video/NDgh4X1IFtc/w-d-xo.html
      "Overall 182 class 158 sets were constructed by the time production ended in 1992. 165 sets being 2 car while 17 were 3 car, as well as 22 class 159s".
      Either way, the seats were comfortable and I normally managed a snooze on the train during my homeward commute.

    • @AymanTravelTransport
      @AymanTravelTransport 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And now people bound for Exeter are likely taking this slower service from Waterloo to avoid the rock hard, upright seats on the new GWR trains on the faster from Paddington

    • @mpellatt
      @mpellatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Except on those very hot days, when the aircon is most critical and is guaranteed to fail.
      Had some hot sweaty journeys from WAT to HON.

    • @rickycunningham6368
      @rickycunningham6368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AymanTravelTransport not the intercity express project more like the intercity hemnaroid project lol

  • @photography94
    @photography94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Nice selection this had to be one of the nicest liveries shame they aren't like this now mate

    • @alan6832
      @alan6832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nice paint, sure, but anything reliable just has to be ugly, doesn't it? Murphy's law I guess.

    • @annother3350
      @annother3350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@alan6832 Just like partners, am i right?!

    • @alan6832
      @alan6832 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@annother3350 Yes, but with partners the reason is clearer, relating to the law of supply and demand, where machines can be mass produced.

    • @theextremeanimator4721
      @theextremeanimator4721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@annother3350 o u c h !

  • @chrislaarman7532
    @chrislaarman7532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you, Ruairidh! I would be interested in a corresponding documentary on the GTW/FLIRT/KISS family of trains (by Stadler from Switzerland) that have reversed downward trends to upward on many lines on the Continent, at least here in the Netherlands, mainly with Arriva.
    There are many driver's eye videos to be found here on TH-cam, ranging from the narrow-nosed GTW DMUs to the polycurrent FLIRT EMUs in the Netherlands to a GTW EMU in Greece reaching 160 km/h (100 mph) on a stopping service. From idle GTW DMUs on the Greek narrow-gauge lines to the rural commuter FLIRT EMUs on the scenic Bergen line in Norway.

  • @MrAlastairwylie
    @MrAlastairwylie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I remember back in 2007 first time I travelled on a scotrail 158 and you could hear the incredible braking on them and you could really feel the acceleration too! I’m gonna miss the super sprinters they were a great little train

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hear hear

    • @BenskiBoi
      @BenskiBoi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There’s still going by me with the class 166 but class 166 is starting to replace

  • @lewis72
    @lewis72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    6:52
    Yes, we always got everyone else's cast offs !!

  • @allansmith4447
    @allansmith4447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    As a Driver at Manchester Piccadilly we had the 158's on Sheffield's, Blackpool's and Barrow, Windermere's and as far as Crewe on the Cardiff's. I never broke down once. Step One on the Brake was really only for holding the train at a Station stop but Steps 2 and 3 were powerful from 90mph down to about 20mph. I was an Instructor on them and we were sorry to lose them.

    • @rodneyhull9764
      @rodneyhull9764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you mean 90mph surely?

    • @allansmith4447
      @allansmith4447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rodneyhull9764 Sorry about that you are the first in 7 months to notice my 'Senior Moment'....However I do recall several times when driving doing that speed to make a connection..before the 'Black Boxes ' were fitted.

    • @lukegarrott8157
      @lukegarrott8157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Transport for Wales are apparently retiring theirs next year . I'm going to be very sad to see them go absolutely love riding them

    • @NolanChance-ux6sd
      @NolanChance-ux6sd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is one of my favourite history videos on this channel, I love the work you do so keep it up!!

  • @OnTrax66
    @OnTrax66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The 158’s are great machines, love catching one from my local station

  • @spiccybaby
    @spiccybaby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    As an occasional user of Waterloo-Exeter services, I thought the 159's were a huge improvement over the loco-hauled services they replaced. Much as I enjoyed the romance of 50's and 33's, it was game over for them, run up the white flag and take a bow as you leave chaps.

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    They're certainly pretty comfortable and very much a step up from a 156 or the horrible 155, but still this fixation with 2-car sets. They should all have been three car at the very least.

  • @marrrtin
    @marrrtin ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fantastic exhaustive presentation as usual well done I love it. Guess can't help being struck with a weird coincidence of growing up in Andover in the diesel-hauled era (33s), which is now served by 158s, and now living in Thailand where 158s are still a common sight on the main line network to all regions of Thailand. a reminder of the not-so-distant times when Britain made world-beating trains. Their overall disposal today has become that niche of the last mile branch line. It's also worth noting that liveries may come and go but 158s go on forever.

  • @lnerfan4468
    @lnerfan4468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My favourite DMUs of all time most comfortable trains I’ve travelled on smooth ride and very quiet
    Speed style and comfort is all I expect from trains
    And when they finally get replaced I expect the same quality from the new trains or in fact improvements from 158s and 159s I don’t want to see 2 step backwards which is what happened to the HSTs

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is the Class 800 a step back compared to those old diesels. The HSTs are loud, dirty and unsafe compared to any modern EMU.

    • @thegeforce6625
      @thegeforce6625 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrJimheerenhe’s talking about the carriages, not the locos that power them.

  • @darrenreay7825
    @darrenreay7825 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That go-livery picture at Derby works is my picture you will find on Flickr.

  • @lim9620
    @lim9620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Do a motion history on the HST and class 166

  • @tomburke5311
    @tomburke5311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Nice video. I always thought the old BR Scotrail livery looked especially good on the 158s. And I’d forgotten that the West Country line was operated by Network South East in sector days.
    (Btw, have you done a video on the Voyager/Super Voyager/Meridian DMU sets? They produce very mixed responses. A video about them would be interesting.)

    • @stevieinselby
      @stevieinselby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They can get very mixed responses even from the same person! I was a big fan of the Pioneer sets on Hull Trains, and very disappointed when they were replaced by the Coradias but I know that extra capacity was needed - the Pioneers were really nice trains to travel on, as well as looking fantastic. And yet the CrossCountry Voyagers, despite being essentially the same train, are neither as aesthetically pleasing nor anywhere near as pleasant to ride in. I really hope that when EMR upgrades its fleet, the Meridian/Pioneer sets get transferred to CrossCountry for the Yorkshire-Birmingham services and I don't have to ride on Voyagers again!

    • @ChangesOneTim
      @ChangesOneTim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevieinselby
      Vomiters have bags of installed horsepower that makes them run like shit off a shovel, but for me that's where the joy ends. CrossCountry Trains at least have never properly sorted out their smell of shit; their gruff noisy engines rattle seats and other fittings. Still, Branson thought Voyagers were a great idea at the time, but some rail passengers still have no other choice of train long after he handed back the keys.

  • @ScoutZz
    @ScoutZz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Will the regional Eurostar video ever be uploaded?

  • @simonestill2351
    @simonestill2351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My memories are they were used on some Cross Country services instead of 47s or HSTs where they were actually too short. i realise a 4 car Voyager isn't much better but travelling on the Birmingham Reading line could be pot luck whether one could get.on I had the same experience on the Leeds Liverpool corridor. For lightly used lines they were okay though,

    • @bowlerstuff9589
      @bowlerstuff9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      my dad once told me that he once got a rammed 158 on the birmingham to liverpool service in the peak

  • @Frostie3672
    @Frostie3672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very comfy the 158 is for long journeys, back in the 90s I used to catch the alphaline Cardiff to penzance service quite often.
    Why gwr use the class 150 for such services now is a strange one as that dmu is not suited for such long journeys & nowhere near as nice to ride on as the 158.

  • @randomtransportguyx4397
    @randomtransportguyx4397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the third time I have watched this the 158 is the best train ever. And the 170

  • @timc9298
    @timc9298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They were a massive improvement on went before but, compared with the turbo stars, feel rather cramped and certainly have longer dwell times on busy routes. I suspect a few more seats were crammed in as capacity became an issue in many instances of their use. Latterly, though, the biggest issue has become the air con on the 158s - there are not infrequent occasions now when you see the hopper windows opened because the air con has failed.

  • @Benji_transport_vids
    @Benji_transport_vids 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember back in October when I rode one of these (Orrell to Salford Crescent) and it was absolutely brilliant

  • @georgespencer8429
    @georgespencer8429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The footage of the Standedge Line was taken by Paul Walker, and the footage of the WHL is from British Rail.

  • @edmundcarew7235
    @edmundcarew7235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What station is at about 3:58 with the slightly snowy mountain in the background? Great video.
    An improvement (if you know each) would be to include the timestamp and each station lcoation in your video summary, or (second best) in a caption on the video.

    • @dw-ff6wj
      @dw-ff6wj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's Banavie with Ben Nevis in the background.

  • @gr328
    @gr328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Shame what they did to the class 50s

  • @nigelkthomas9501
    @nigelkthomas9501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loco-haulage cannot be beaten! The 158s are OK to a point, but the trash of a 31, 37, 40 or 47 hauling a rake a of mark ones or twos is ace!

  • @dodge2322
    @dodge2322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I will really cry when the 158s retire
    Hopefully they will be kept well for a long time to come

    • @n1thmusic229
      @n1thmusic229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure many will be preserved not only are they diesel Which makes them great for heritage lines but also they are really important for the network and are a British staple, one of the greatest trains ever made
      Given that the class 142s had many units preserved and they are one of the worst trains ever made I assume that many 158s one of the best units ever made, Will be highly preserved

  • @tescolemonbleach2367
    @tescolemonbleach2367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Glad to see this video back up

  • @DaveInBridport
    @DaveInBridport 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Used to ride on 158 from Dorchester to Bristol about 2 years ago. Didn't realise they were so old!

  • @randomclass4653
    @randomclass4653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sadly the class 158s are being replaced on Greater Anglia..

    • @AndreiTupolev
      @AndreiTupolev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      they've never had any. Do you mean 156s?

    • @stevieinselby
      @stevieinselby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Greater Anglia didn't have any 158s to start with - their provincial fleet was 153s, 156s and 170s.

  • @jollyjosh95
    @jollyjosh95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the Class 158 and Class 159 with the old livery

  • @waltertownsend3821
    @waltertownsend3821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My main issue with them in comparison to the locomotive hauled services was their utter lack of space. Imagine ones disappointment to see a 2-carriage set to crawl into New Street with a rammed platform and this tiny train pottles in. Sure the locomotive services were older, run down and prone to unreliability but more or less any issue on the train is tolerable when one has a seat ideally with your family.

    • @n1thmusic229
      @n1thmusic229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually they make 4 car trains now though

  • @pokeboi5438
    @pokeboi5438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rode on one out of Temple Meads recently and they are just as comfortable as ever

  • @michelsaarloos4392
    @michelsaarloos4392 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have been a train driver in Holland from 92 untill 2001. The 158 and 153 were always my favourites in the UK. I loved driving them diesels back then.

  • @Shortline819
    @Shortline819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good video! I'm an American railfan who doesn't really care (or know) about the UK's rail network. Your video somehow pulled me in! The class 158 series seems a lot to me like our SD40s and SD70s (yes I know those are freight and these are passenger). A locomotive perfect for both high density mainlines and low density branchlines. God-teir engineering Indeed. Amtrak and American commuter railroads would be very wise to adapt a similar design.

  • @MatthewPlato91
    @MatthewPlato91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Interesting stuff. I'd like to see a similar history someday of the turbos running out of Marylebone!

  • @hjhkgjfawdferyyurv1222
    @hjhkgjfawdferyyurv1222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As newer train comes, the uglier trains arrive

  • @Discoretrox
    @Discoretrox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video...give me a 37/47 with a rake of mk2s anyday of the week though!

  • @lambertax
    @lambertax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a French person, I do not understand the delay that the United Kingdom has taken for its electrification. Especially on important lines. Seeing those noisy and polluting diesels seems so obsolete today!

    • @toddhunter3137
      @toddhunter3137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      UK management is so short sighted, complete joke.

  • @Aviation-Aaron
    @Aviation-Aaron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The class 158 is my favourite train

  • @petersmith4455
    @petersmith4455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    much prefer the 117s the 159s dont look classic, i suppose we have to move on.

    • @n1thmusic229
      @n1thmusic229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are both some of my favourites the 117s were classic but the 158s are railway game changers

  • @dodge2322
    @dodge2322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was this vid taken down before?

  • @djsmeguk
    @djsmeguk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to love riding the class 50 hauled trains out of Axminster. There was a real character flair to them, even though they were dusty and creaky.

  • @bobbymcloughlin3452
    @bobbymcloughlin3452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    UK’s Sprinter Trains
    MotorCoaches
    Leyland Sprinter (Classed As: “153”)
    Metropolitan Cammell BR Sprinter (Classed As: “152”)
    Trains
    British Railway’s Sprinter (Classed: “150” / Reclassed: “154”)
    Leyland Sprinter (Classed As: “155”)
    Metropolitan Cammell E&CR Sprinter (Classed As: “151”)
    HTPL Sprinter (Classed As: “157”)
    Metropolitan Cammell BR Sprinter (Classed As: “156”)
    Intercity Sprinter (Classed As: “158”, Reclassed: “159”)
    Driving Trailers (Built Already)
    Cabless Trailers (Built Already: More Of Those For Each Of The Sets)
    Catering Carriages (Needed To Be Built) A Sideboard Car Per Set
    Sleeper Carriages (Needed To Be Built) Sleeper Cars Per Set
    Each Train Can Either Have A Full Width Cab Or Gangway Cab

  • @Palestina.non.grata86
    @Palestina.non.grata86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Growing up in Shrewsbury, I grew up with the 158s when it came to rail travel. My secondary school was right next to the Cambrian Line so I'd always peek out the window at a 4 car set screaming into Shrewsbury while I sat bored off my crate in English class 😂

  • @DarkLordDiablos
    @DarkLordDiablos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its funny that you talk about Regional Railways and even mention the Settle to Carlisle route but fail to mention the route between Carlisle and Newcastle which is a major commuter route into both cities.
    The route is also sometimes used by the cross country trains if there are issues between either city and Scotland.

  • @dave1001
    @dave1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great and very informative video. A real pity BR didn't buy more of the outstanding class 158 DMU

  • @richardjellis9186
    @richardjellis9186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you imagine the uproar, if the Salisbury line HAD actually been closed, all them years ago.?!🧐😲🤬!?. And, what a beautiful stretch would have been lossed.!

  • @marceljagger3347
    @marceljagger3347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I worked for regional railways but alas wasnt trained for 158s , we worked 141/142/144/150s 155s and 156s back then 158s only did the Transpennine express which we never did because Leeds didnt want Huddersfield pinching their routes, ironically 2 years or so later Huddersfield did get a couple of express turns and we did get 158 trained

  • @honorkosovasteel6447
    @honorkosovasteel6447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:59 if you look at the bottom you can see a mouse

  • @david5845
    @david5845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great! Thank you.

  • @DeanBall75
    @DeanBall75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately, the first thing I think of when one of these turns up is 'that'll be standing room only then'. And whilst they were undoubtedly streets ahead of what they replaced, they did provide a tick box and helped turn the spotlight away from linking the provincial towns and smaller cities when in reality these lines should be electrified with bigger trains. Too often the 158/156s are simply slotted in and passengers have to make do, rather than a more strategic look and a more comprehensive upgrade is required.

  • @Tomasti84
    @Tomasti84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More fabulous content. Thank you buddy.

  • @Chepstowion_Adventura
    @Chepstowion_Adventura 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember these as kid passing my home town in chepstow around the 2000s, don’t ever see them now.

  • @bobbymcloughlin3452
    @bobbymcloughlin3452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    UK’s EMUs In The First Generation Are A Stock Of Motorless Carriages, But Can Come With A Catenary Driving Trailer Or A Catenary Cabless Trailer, Available On Live Rail, Use Any Voltage: Alternating, Directing Or Combining
    VC = Voltage Combination = AC/DC
    UK’s DMUs In The First Generation Are Not Multiple Units, They’re A Set Of Carriages That Run On Diesel
    Except MotorCoaches
    UK’s EMUs In The Second Generation Are Classic Multiple Units (Powerless w/ Voltage), Available On Live Rail, They Also Come With A Catenary Carriage
    UK’s DMUs In The Second Generation Are The Classic DMUs, Such As The Sprinters

  • @Olivers-trains
    @Olivers-trains 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video. In the video there is a video of 158787 I have been on that set nearly one year ago on the Penistone line it is also my profile picture

  • @mikeuk4130
    @mikeuk4130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thoroughly absorbing and comprehensive history of my absolute favourite DMUs. Great pace and variety too, so well done to RM.

  • @Drankovich
    @Drankovich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoyed the East Midlands 158 services from Manchester Piccadilly to Lime Street during my time in uni, well worth waiting a little longer over the pacers, 150s & 185s back. So comfy and good to hear Northern has a bunch of refurbed 158s to replace the pacers now.

  • @Trek001
    @Trek001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:39 - the type has a massive following and only recently retired in November 2020 after an incredible 40 plus years in service.
    Now, you won't know this but a strange quirk has appeared in the 158/9s as built for the routes in and out of West Yorkshire - their air conditioning was built with the use of CFCs as with the rest of the class. However, with the refurbishment by other operators, the /9s still have the original aircon fitted but without the gas. This has led to, on exceptionally hot days, the smell of the old musty CFC pipes being blown into the saloon. This has led to the local instruction for all /9s to have their windows opened when in service

  • @markc8956
    @markc8956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We still have the 156s on the West Highland Line,refurbished with power points and wifi now. Scotrail mooted cascading the 158s to us from the Far North Line (Wick/Thurso that you mentioned in the video) but said they hadn't been route tested - they never tried to test them on our route (Oban/Fort William/Mallaig)

  • @stephensmith799
    @stephensmith799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    158s and 159s are trully great DMUs. Very comfortable and fast...

  • @Jamesb944
    @Jamesb944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd still prefer a shove duff from Aberdeen to Edinburgh or Glasgow. But I'm yet to travel on the refurbished HST sets.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they're pretty creaky but the seats are still good. slam door nostalgia too

  • @jordanbell3451
    @jordanbell3451 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Northern's fleet of 158s work wonders on the Penistone Line in Yorkshire.

  • @Mgameing123
    @Mgameing123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    petition for class 158/159 to be back in production

    • @n1thmusic229
      @n1thmusic229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the new generation of these things should be made, being more modern higher top speed, better acceleration and a new single car version the class 157

  • @texasgamingindustries7567
    @texasgamingindustries7567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Class 158's and 159's did save Regional Railways, but the Gallopin' Geese did the same on the Rio Grande Southern, until it's abandonment in 1952, hopefully we can see a video of that someday.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains
    @Clivestravelandtrains 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good video from this wizzard of information! By the way, the Sector was known as Provincial for several year before it became Regional Railways. Regarding the 1950's DMU's - Ruairidh desrcibed them as "toxic" - well as I commuted in them to and from work in North Yorkshire daily for 15 years I'm obviously lucky to be still alive! Raise the glass!

  • @stuarthall6631
    @stuarthall6631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I worked briefly at B.R.E.L. Derby as a contractor when the Thai units were being completed. I well remember their being tested up and down a short section of meter-gauge track temporarily laid in the yard outside.

  • @pauledwards2817
    @pauledwards2817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Indeed the best of that era but I can never forgive them for the Pacer that we had to endure for decades which were as rough and noisy as the Cravens units. Occasionally we did get one and were amazed in a so sad way wondering what had gone wrong for them to give us the nice stuff.

  • @InstaSim6
    @InstaSim6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A nice video but I have 2 issues:
    1. Please can you pronounce Llandudno correctly. Whilst I can accept the Ll being pronounced L (as annoying as it is), the "dud" part is pronounced as "did", any other way just sounds wrong.
    2. It's quite unfortunate you didn't mention about the ERTMS upgrade to the Welsh 158s to work on the Cambrian Coast between Shrewsbury and Aberystwyth / Pwllheli because that was a big upgrade for the 158s.
    Regardless, a good informative video. I personally quite like the 158s but much prefer the 175s as they're far more comfortable and quieter to ride on by comparison. But I'd definitely take a 158 over a 150 any day of the week.

    • @HertsCommuter
      @HertsCommuter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The narrator's pronunciation of "H" as "haitch" really annoys me, although the video itself is really good.

    • @bowlerstuff9589
      @bowlerstuff9589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people in england do say Llandudno

  • @neilcrawford8303
    @neilcrawford8303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Even before the days of the sHitachi 800 series on the GWR services, the 159s from Waterloo were my preferred method of getting to Exeter. I've noticed since First took over that the SWR 158s are quite common on the Salisbury and Exeters. In SWT days 158s rarely strayed off the Salisbury-Romsey-Eastleigh services. Love watching the 9 car (3×159) or 10 car (2×158 + 2×159) formations belting through Surbiton. Did the Norwich to Liverpool in 2019 on a 158, lovely journey. Northern have 3 car 158s which are regulars on services from Yorkshire to Blackpool.

    • @paulmasterson386
      @paulmasterson386 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would rather have traveled by snail rail from Waterloo than an HST from Paddington?

    • @neilcrawford8303
      @neilcrawford8303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulmasterson386
      Yes. Speed isn't everything. Travelling isn't always about the destination, but how you get there. The journey via Salisbury is a lovely scenic route.

  • @alexander1485
    @alexander1485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the "class" system is only based on serial numbers based on age and time? not actual manufacturer codes?

  • @class158s7
    @class158s7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some clear errors on the power unit specifications here. The 400bhp NTA855R3 was the minority fleet. The NTA855R1 (which was 305bhp) had many more units. There were also a bunch of Perkins 2006TWH Class 158s. Finally the 156 uses an NT855R5 (no A which stands for aftercooled) and only produces 275bhp

  • @tosspot1305
    @tosspot1305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative and very interesting! Thank you for your effort

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Today great western railway and transport for Wales Have the 158s
    Whilst south western railway have the 159s

  • @apt155
    @apt155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Finally a UK version of Engines of Amtrak

  • @stephenlongthorpe3812
    @stephenlongthorpe3812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loco haulage from Liverpool / Manchester to Leeds York and Newcastle Transpennine Express was originally replaced by 2 or 3 Class 150 / 2 sets in multiple for new in 1987 ish. It was wonderful getting a hot drink off the Rightline refreshments trolley and have no table or drop-down table to put in on, just the floor. 150/2 were cascading to local duties when the Class 158 replaced them on Transpennine Express.

  • @robertjohnsheward8139
    @robertjohnsheward8139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well what wonderful piece of filming history of a class that was dispised on their arrival to a class that has carved a unique and ever increasing number of followers, one of the true greats to come out of Litchurch Lane, Derby.... I like many enthusiasts the passing of those loco hauled, 31’s, 33’s & 37’s but time moves on. 1600 miles before refuelling, services every 13,000 intervals, these are certainly the dmu’s which saved regional railways from a managed decline to year on year growth.... Yes, they had there faults , but I’d have a 158/159 over any of this 3rd generation stuff.
    It all what wrong for me from Voyager’s to 185’s then just down hill, so we best make the most of these fine units as Tspt for Wales looks to replace them all by 2023, so enjoy guys & girls , I’m sure they’ll be around for a while yet

  • @jayhay6497
    @jayhay6497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember the first time I saw an 158 ..... it was so futuristic

  • @Beatlefan67
    @Beatlefan67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We live right by the Sals-Ex line just East of YVJ and the time-keeping is remarkably good (bit strange since Mar 2020 onwards as you can imagine) I've always found them very comfy and pleasant to ride.

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has been fascinating I'd never thought why when I get on the train at Shrewsbury to Aberystwyth, it feels so much nicer, a calming and more relaxed and spacious feeling. Than the 185 and eclectic number of different trains I've got on to get up to Manchester Picadilly

  • @annother3350
    @annother3350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Weridly with seemingly zero aerodynamics! But what would I know?!

  • @Pmjs
    @Pmjs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ScotRail replaced the 47 Push Pulls on E&Gs &37,47 Loco Hauled trains with the 158s in 1990. I really missed working the Push Pulls. As you see in the video Network SouthEast got them.

  • @tomedy_official
    @tomedy_official 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually the class 159 was actually network southeast, but they were converted from 158

  • @waleedarif6740
    @waleedarif6740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Class 158s and Class 159s deserve to stay in service for years from now on. In fact, I think some of the sprinters from each Classes, probably especially 158s and 159s can last in regular passenger service up until 2050.

    • @ChoobChoob
      @ChoobChoob ปีที่แล้ว

      They probably could last that long because they are very modular and easy to maintain.

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can see the difference the 158 can be either a 2 car unit or a 3 car unit just like it’s cousin the 159

  • @grah84mck
    @grah84mck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4mins the mention of the settle and Carlisle like yet the route shown is the west highland line north of fort William.

  • @jtveg
    @jtveg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏼

  • @LarryRouse
    @LarryRouse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Someone's probably already commented this but,
    18:49 if only they did that... Yes, the line runs 4-car trains between Liverpool and Nottingham, but the whole leg from Nottingham to Norwich runs 2-car

  • @UnipornFrumm
    @UnipornFrumm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What i dont understand is why they dont electrify the liverpool manchester line,its a busy line like its been over 100 years of operation it just horrible they still use diesel trains

  • @theextremeanimator4721
    @theextremeanimator4721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have newfound respect for these two classes.

  • @duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627
    @duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember in Hull going from Class 101's to Class 141, then on to Class 142's, then 156's, and to 158's in my area. We felt blessed when we got 158's here on the Bridlington to Manchester Airport via Hull services.

  • @StuartStudios5
    @StuartStudios5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you have to reupload this due to a copyright problem with the original?

    • @KaiDiesAgain
      @KaiDiesAgain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read the description

  • @lewis72
    @lewis72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:27
    Are those power figures the right way round ?
    I would imagine that the 158 had 570 bhp and the 156s 400bhp.

    • @jasonlittlewood3874
      @jasonlittlewood3874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 150/153/155/156 all have the same engines Cummins NT855R5 with 285HP.
      The 158 & 159 has the Cummins NTA855R1 of 350HP on most & NTA855R3 of 400HP on some.
      Some 158's also have a Perkins 2006-TWH of 350HP as also fitted to 165 & 166 units.

    • @lewis72
      @lewis72 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonlittlewood3874
      What was stated on the video doesn't align with that.

    • @jasonlittlewood3874
      @jasonlittlewood3874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lewis72 Correct, as what is in the video is incorrect.

    • @markbeck4525
      @markbeck4525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It would suggest that the author has totalled the bhp for a 155 or 156 (2x285=570) but forgot to do so for the 158 which should for a 2-car be 2x350=700, on the figures quoted by Jason.

    • @jasonlittlewood3874
      @jasonlittlewood3874 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markbeck4525 I agree!!!

  • @bobbymcloughlin3452
    @bobbymcloughlin3452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:28 So It Should, Because It’s An Intercity Train, It Needs A Catering Carriage
    Driving Trailers (Built Already)
    Cabless Trailers (Built Already: Needs More Of Those Per Set)
    Catering Carriages (Need To Be Built) A Catering Car Per Set
    Sleeper Carriages (Need To Be Built) Sleeper Cars Per Set

  • @richardjellis9186
    @richardjellis9186 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is allowing trains to be urinated on by our equine friends.?🤔🧐😲?.
    Trains under ANY horsepisses is unacceptable.!🤬!
    🤣😎🤣😎🤣😎🤣😎🤣😎🤣🥳

  • @sudarshanpujari5503
    @sudarshanpujari5503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not be offensive or something to class 158 and metroliner fan bases but,
    THERE ARE TRAINS WITH DEDICATED LOCOMOTIVES (IN SHAPE IF NOT FUNCTION)....AND THEN THERE ARE HERETICS.

  • @mindthegapplease3840
    @mindthegapplease3840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are least favourite DMU Trains, the doors take forever to open, they depart the station too fast coughing *Northern*.

  • @macjim
    @macjim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Qwasnt this show before, I feel I've seen this video before...

    • @calldfwp2230
      @calldfwp2230 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You probably have. He deleted it and re-uploaded it.

    • @macjim
      @macjim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SovietChungus Productions ah! Thought so...

  • @markym8319
    @markym8319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, forgot to mention the 158/9's specifically built for WYPTE

    • @stephenlongthorpe3812
      @stephenlongthorpe3812 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, these 10 sets were payed for with West Yorkshire council tax money to solely work most of their duties in West Yorkshire. They only had one toilet from new with the 57 units having extra space for bicycles / passengers. The original order after the 155s was to buy Class 156, by time the money was authorised, by the PTA, the jigs had been dismantled at Metrocammel.

  • @joncrawford3485
    @joncrawford3485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta laugh. The so-called East Coast Main Line, in an area forgotten about so much that Norwich has to be described as being "in East Anglia" (ha, we're not in Scotland!), we were using Virgin's cast-offs (class 86's and 90's). Further north & east of that line, whilst you lot were faffing about with your shiny new 158's, we still had 1st gen class 101's and 105's doing the rounds. Then replaced with a rag-tag mix of 153's and 156's - 3rd-hand apparently. After playing with class 37's due to lack of stock, we're finally got new trains - the first since 24th Dec 1961 (aka a certain D6700 that did Liverpool St to Yarmouth Southtown via East Suffolk Line...).

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least you be er got Pacers.

    • @joncrawford3485
      @joncrawford3485 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neiloflongbeck5705 The only Pacer we had here (East Suffolk Line) was the prototype LEV1 in 1980.

    • @bowlerstuff9589
      @bowlerstuff9589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My route had 37s and DMUs before the electrification,then 317s came along as the only train on the route,before the 379s got introduced for Express and Airport runs,now were getting 745/1s and 720s

  • @skydiamond8705
    @skydiamond8705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you pls do the class 321 next plsssss and the pep train to