Whilst i was of the belief, that the second nuke was a sound decision, and that the last push on treasury was only possible, since defensive efforts were decreased due to the nuke, it is simply disgusting to see what behavior went on behind the scenes. Whilst we were building defenses I only heard some things about Hward not talking to other regis when building their nuke, but the reality appears so much worse.
The siege of foxcatcher was the main turning point in my opinion, and collies broke there. By first nuke Stonewall accidentally brought victory closer. The second nuke was also useful because it caused shred to drop its pop and battle for endless was still ongoing. But anyway my action to destroy the bridge was unacceptable in any case. Emotions took over me at that moment. Hope you will recover from such disappointment in warden faction as a whole and will continue to communicate with other player groups.
The nuke was overall pointless and I am not surprised at all to find that stonewall and fwoof did what they did. They have main character syndrome and it shows.
without going into specifics, the way HWard "interacted" with 3SP, was despicabel. We relented to not risk a civil war. But safe to say, what was left of their reputation is gone
Hward had a RSC defending the first nuke too which they pulled out after it got destroyed while also attempting to steal 300mm from other SC bases just because they were "lying around in pallets" i stopped Ren4rd taking one of ours myself
On that first nuke, there was many HWard members online, but not as many as I would've, I personally didn't left that front for it's whole duration (no, I didn't went to sleep and I was the reason why you heard that RSC going FOR HOURS) and brought 5 trains of logistics to Foxcatcher's Depot the morning of the big push the colies made. On the UKR side tho, you said you won't be there to defend and let your base die, I can attest that yes you did, I saw 1 of your guys trying is best but that was all, you had your ammo room locked to your squad on many arty position so you did scuttle that operation as best as you could. On the second nuke, Theomax did an agreement with you but never let the ones who build the nuke aware of it and at that point in war (42days in) getting Treasury in hope to have it tech is just a wet dream and nuking it was what makes the tables turn in this war. Theomax shouldn't have made that agreement with you without letting us know about it, also funny that he stated it's his nuke and treated it like that when the only thing he provided was the body, not the head nor the booster nor the thermal shield and everything needed. Theomaxx did try to lie his way to become the Nuke squad leader to get power over it and that's why I kicked him out because I felt the treacherous behavior in his scheme. That doesn't sounds like an HWard issue to me. By the way, I did mention our allies who helped us with this nuke but Obviously you won't show those screenshot in your video, you prefer to show Theo's comment that does play in your favor but he was corrected in this own comment, I hope this is not one of your attempt to " Consciously manipulate the amount of information transmitted" because you should know that "concealment of information and is a form of lying" :)
I was the guy who was defending first nuke, and i can say 2 things First of all, amo rooms was unlocked, if you talk about storm canons, i unlocked them later, i was alone and at 2 am in local time, i had a lil panic cuse i was helping Theomax with his tempest Second of all, the RSC fire from collies, killed all we had in less then 2 hours, so there were no point and no motivation to defend shit, becuse we were already defending Foxcatcher from border pushes for 14 days
Oh my god, Clahstra had a HUGE problem with reserved storage rooms. Massive concrete bases being lost with hundreds of shells sitting there not being used. Happened multiple times this war.
I'm not part of any team, but I had built my mortar tank and it cost me, and parked it 2 meters west of the bridge, while I was putting things away. It was aiming for the safe house. And 1 minute before the bridge was destroyed, someone stole it in front of me, tried to run over me twice, crossed the bridge while I was running behind it and sent it straight to the colonial Tanks to be destroyed in the main street.
Sad that someone has this amount of time to create a 13 minute video filled with music, sound effects and graphics just to complain about an action taken by a clan from the same faction that ultimately helped change the direction of an obviously stalled front. In the view of a complete bystander, perhaps if your clan would have spent as much time fighting for the treasury as you did making this video, the nuke wouldn’t have been necessary to begin with. It appears you had ~43 days (in real life) to take the Treasury and your main argument is about something happening during a last-ditch operative within the last few hours of the nuke launching to take the Treasury. To me, it looks like you are trying to witch-hunt someone because they were able to accomplish something that you and your clan couldn’t.
1)with this logic sad that you spend time on this video and spend time to write this comment. 2)watch video again please, if you want to say that you watched it -that means that you are intentionaly ignoring what said in video about strategy of conquering clahstra. 3)clahstra had most of casualties of all hexes so it would not be fair to say that taking it is a easy deal but its still not a reason to not think that we cant take it same as no reason to be one of thouth advocates who blindly saying template stuff and sharing indifference to problems in community.
@@bobkylakabob1558I did watch the video… I fail to see your point or logic. Next time, take your intended target or goal, then you won’t have to worry about someone-else coming in and doing it for you.
@@gregoetting7893Isn't a key point of this video that they WERE taking the intended target, they had the CVs ready to repair the TH, before the operation was deliberately sabotaged by some players who wanted to get to drop a nuke?
@@xxxx-jp1gm I fail to see how team killing someone before a single havoc is detonated on a bridge that takes 3 havocs to destroy sabotages an entire operation. If the entire point of this video was an op that was sabotaged, then why is this video titled “Hward Issue” when it was a different clan that destroyed the bridge? again, you are witch-hunting…
Fwoof here, I don’t particularly like hward myself but they were right this time. The nuke did cause the colonials to log off. Sorry if you got shafted in the process of the drama but I did what I believed was right at the time. The developers also back me up with revoking both vote kicks for doing nothing wrong. -Fwoof
@@HadrianHardstyle if you were you would noticed 1) that coalition wasnt trying to rush in 1 bridge for 43 days it happands because we got on clock 2)garage is importand (and you heard right) but you didnt realized that i said how coalition would capture clahstra in the end so i guess you watched till mid and started this comments to make mess like this or you 100% sure that you are right BUT this nuke wouldnt be an issue if we give up on clahstra and just sit on def in foxcatcher but we are not. so please stop beeng agresive and watch till the end
@@HadrianHardstyle Every Hex was queued. The people pushing have pushed in the same hex for less results. pls shut up if you have no clue what you are talking about.
I see this as argument of 2 diffrent point views on how to fight a battle escalated to the point of stupid actions at the bridge from both sides. After the fact we can clearly see that nukle approach worked, however there is no tell how it would work if Treasury was taken/not taken. it could be better for wardens or not but we will never know. Talking about who was right should be irrelevant now and focus should be placed not on who was right but on healing the bad blood that is still present in order to deescalate conflict. Both sides should publicly apologize to rest of faction for causing drama that could have damage war effort (and still can in the future) and faction morale, declare publicly that they do not hold any grudges aganist each other (even if thats not true, public statement like that will at least hold both sides accountable in case of future escalation) and coordinate to not be on the same front in few future wars, so the wound can heal with time. Try to mend it, not dig at it so it wont become lifelong drama that entire faction would be harmed by.
I won’t apologize for playing the game in a fair way. The nuke launching or not I couldn’t care more, but a 150 men operation being griefed that I can’t accept nor forgive.
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Whilst i was of the belief, that the second nuke was a sound decision, and that the last push on treasury was only possible, since defensive efforts were decreased due to the nuke, it is simply disgusting to see what behavior went on behind the scenes. Whilst we were building defenses I only heard some things about Hward not talking to other regis when building their nuke, but the reality appears so much worse.
После этого видео в варденском поезде начался сущий кошмар
I didn't know a garage was so valuable
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The siege of foxcatcher was the main turning point in my opinion, and collies broke there. By first nuke Stonewall accidentally brought victory closer.
The second nuke was also useful because it caused shred to drop its pop and battle for endless was still ongoing. But anyway my action to destroy the bridge was unacceptable in any case. Emotions took over me at that moment. Hope you will recover from such disappointment in warden faction as a whole and will continue to communicate with other player groups.
But Stonewall is still main enforcer of rules of WERCS and he could do almost anything, am I wrong?
The nuke was overall pointless and I am not surprised at all to find that stonewall and fwoof did what they did. They have main character syndrome and it shows.
Our clan also has mega problems with Steinwall. Maybe it has something to do with Nukes. They threatened to take us down on Reddit.
without going into specifics, the way HWard "interacted" with 3SP, was despicabel. We relented to not risk a civil war. But safe to say, what was left of their reputation is gone
Hward had a RSC defending the first nuke too which they pulled out after it got destroyed while also attempting to steal 300mm from other SC bases just because they were "lying around in pallets" i stopped Ren4rd taking one of ours myself
On that first nuke, there was many HWard members online, but not as many as I would've, I personally didn't left that front for it's whole duration (no, I didn't went to sleep and I was the reason why you heard that RSC going FOR HOURS) and brought 5 trains of logistics to Foxcatcher's Depot the morning of the big push the colies made.
On the UKR side tho, you said you won't be there to defend and let your base die, I can attest that yes you did, I saw 1 of your guys trying is best but that was all, you had your ammo room locked to your squad on many arty position so you did scuttle that operation as best as you could.
On the second nuke, Theomax did an agreement with you but never let the ones who build the nuke aware of it and at that point in war (42days in) getting Treasury in hope to have it tech is just a wet dream and nuking it was what makes the tables turn in this war.
Theomax shouldn't have made that agreement with you without letting us know about it, also funny that he stated it's his nuke and treated it like that when the only thing he provided was the body, not the head nor the booster nor the thermal shield and everything needed.
Theomaxx did try to lie his way to become the Nuke squad leader to get power over it and that's why I kicked him out because I felt the treacherous behavior in his scheme.
That doesn't sounds like an HWard issue to me.
By the way, I did mention our allies who helped us with this nuke but Obviously you won't show those screenshot in your video, you prefer to show Theo's comment that does play in your favor but he was corrected in this own comment, I hope this is not one of your attempt to " Consciously manipulate the amount of information transmitted" because you should know that "concealment of information and is a form of lying" :)
I agree with the closed ammunition depots - if it's true, it's a skill issue. everything else is in the video.
I was the guy who was defending first nuke, and i can say 2 things
First of all, amo rooms was unlocked, if you talk about storm canons, i unlocked them later, i was alone and at 2 am in local time, i had a lil panic cuse i was helping Theomax with his tempest
Second of all, the RSC fire from collies, killed all we had in less then 2 hours, so there were no point and no motivation to defend shit, becuse we were already defending Foxcatcher from border pushes for 14 days
any screens to confirm you mentioning. please ?
Oh my god, Clahstra had a HUGE problem with reserved storage rooms. Massive concrete bases being lost with hundreds of shells sitting there not being used. Happened multiple times this war.
I'm not part of any team, but I had built my mortar tank and it cost me, and parked it 2 meters west of the bridge, while I was putting things away. It was aiming for the safe house. And 1 minute before the bridge was destroyed, someone stole it in front of me, tried to run over me twice, crossed the bridge while I was running behind it and sent it straight to the colonial Tanks to be destroyed in the main street.
sad story bro tbh
Sad that someone has this amount of time to create a 13 minute video filled with music, sound effects and graphics just to complain about an action taken by a clan from the same faction that ultimately helped change the direction of an obviously stalled front. In the view of a complete bystander, perhaps if your clan would have spent as much time fighting for the treasury as you did making this video, the nuke wouldn’t have been necessary to begin with. It appears you had ~43 days (in real life) to take the Treasury and your main argument is about something happening during a last-ditch operative within the last few hours of the nuke launching to take the Treasury. To me, it looks like you are trying to witch-hunt someone because they were able to accomplish something that you and your clan couldn’t.
1)with this logic sad that you spend time on this video and spend time to write this comment.
2)watch video again please, if you want to say that you watched it -that means that you are intentionaly ignoring what said in video about strategy of conquering clahstra.
3)clahstra had most of casualties of all hexes so it would not be fair to say that taking it is a easy deal but its still not a reason to not think that we cant take it same as no reason to be one of thouth advocates who blindly saying template stuff and sharing indifference to problems in community.
@@bobkylakabob1558I did watch the video… I fail to see your point or logic. Next time, take your intended target or goal, then you won’t have to worry about someone-else coming in and doing it for you.
@@gregoetting7893Isn't a key point of this video that they WERE taking the intended target, they had the CVs ready to repair the TH, before the operation was deliberately sabotaged by some players who wanted to get to drop a nuke?
@@xxxx-jp1gm I fail to see how team killing someone before a single havoc is detonated on a bridge that takes 3 havocs to destroy sabotages an entire operation. If the entire point of this video was an op that was sabotaged, then why is this video titled “Hward Issue” when it was a different clan that destroyed the bridge? again, you are witch-hunting…
I'm making a video like this whenever someone foxhole related argues with me for sure lol.
Fwoof here, I don’t particularly like hward myself but they were right this time. The nuke did cause the colonials to log off. Sorry if you got shafted in the process of the drama but I did what I believed was right at the time. The developers also back me up with revoking both vote kicks for doing nothing wrong.
-Fwoof
Never nuke something you can take.
Rule any Vet should know
@@HadrianHardstyle bro watch video again please, you are missing info from it
@@HadrianHardstyle if you were you would noticed
1) that coalition wasnt trying to rush in 1 bridge for 43 days it happands because we got on clock
2)garage is importand (and you heard right) but you didnt realized that i said how coalition would capture clahstra in the end so i guess you watched till mid and started this comments to make mess like this or you 100% sure that you are right
BUT
this nuke wouldnt be an issue if we give up on clahstra and just sit on def in foxcatcher but we are not. so please stop beeng agresive and watch till the end
@@HadrianHardstyle Every Hex was queued. The people pushing have pushed in the same hex for less results.
pls shut up if you have no clue what you are talking about.
Туда их
I see this as argument of 2 diffrent point views on how to fight a battle escalated to the point of stupid actions at the bridge from both sides. After the fact we can clearly see that nukle approach worked, however there is no tell how it would work if Treasury was taken/not taken. it could be better for wardens or not but we will never know. Talking about who was right should be irrelevant now and focus should be placed not on who was right but on healing the bad blood that is still present in order to deescalate conflict.
Both sides should publicly apologize to rest of faction for causing drama that could have damage war effort (and still can in the future) and faction morale, declare publicly that they do not hold any grudges aganist each other (even if thats not true, public statement like that will at least hold both sides accountable in case of future escalation) and coordinate to not be on the same front in few future wars, so the wound can heal with time.
Try to mend it, not dig at it so it wont become lifelong drama that entire faction would be harmed by.
I won’t apologize for playing the game in a fair way. The nuke launching or not I couldn’t care more, but a 150 men operation being griefed that I can’t accept nor forgive.
are you sure that you watched video carefully ? because you're trying to bring up topics that are already covered in the video. (no offence)