But also you gotta realize toxic parents don’t know they are toxic. They think that since they brought the child into the world , they owe them no respect.
Her mom seems like a narcissist. She can’t handle the fact she was a bad mother; doesn’t like accountability. She keeps pointing the finger at tommie for being a wild child but doesn’t want to admit that her bad parenting molded tommie.. tommie is hurt because her mother won’t be real about it. Poor baby
Yeah I have a parent like this. You can’t even move past anything because they refuse to be real about anything or apologize. I feel tommie completely! It’s even sadder when it’s your mother though!
@@khailirowan5626 I’m so sorry to hear that, hun.. hoping it gets better for you and if it doesn’t, don’t feel bad if you want to distance yourself from your mom; your peace of mind matters
Facts. It’s sad and heartbreaking to watch. Reminds me of the relationship I have with not only my mother but my father, as well! Arguing when all that is needed is love and understanding 😩😩
That’s not true. Her mom has problems too (like our families) and is misguided to. We don’t know her moms story 💯 she had her at 17... that’s big. What is a 17 year old thinking about? what happened that led to that situation ? where was HER mother ?..etc. We gotta stop judging folks surface and understand their situation. That’s the problem in our community sometime.
@@drknow1997 yes, however she can decide to keep them at a distance until they work out what they need and maybe seek a relationship! As someone who is Christian, I don’t (date) men who are not in the word, however, I will be their friend and help guide them in hopes that they grow closer with God and if they happen to be for me at some points that’s great🤷🏿♀️
When Tommie said "I don't know YOU, I don't feel comfortable around YOU" man that hit 🎯 I understand that KK was being genuine but you don't do it like this. These women have to heal on their own. I respect Tommie for being vulnerable and at the same time standing up for herself.
Tommiee not toxic, she's broken!! Forced to grow up at a early age..never had a mother figure to show her true love nor a father figure!! The streets taught her love and that's all she knows to put out!! Wit a little focus and determination she will be successful ❣❣
That breaks my heart.. I know what it’s like not having a dad but not a mom. That must be hard to have two parents who aren’t present in your life. I would feel lost.
When Tommie said to her mom “Idw a relationship with you, just fix it with your other children”, that broke my heart cause I know exactly what that’s like. You lost hope in that person. It’s too far gone but for the other kids who still hold on, you just want better for them. So much pain there.
And for her to say “I don’t want it either bye” like wtf??? Idk anything about tommie until recently and didn’t care for her much but that just explained SO MUCH and I feel for her heavy. Idk what I would do if my mom wasn’t my best friend, wow 19:44
As much as KK wanted to make amends between Tommie and her mom you can't force a relationship between a narcissist and their victim. The minute Tommie walked in her mom was soft spoken, she was acting nice but the minute Tommie said something her real character came out. There is nothing wrong with wanting no relationship with a toxic person, even your mother.
I hate how much parents victimize themselves like no it’s not about you. The sad thing about it is how much parents victimize themselves and manipulate their children into thinking that you shouldn’t feel this way because they did this much for you and you need to respect them even though you’re getting disrespected. I find it crazy and I still have to deal with this sadly.
Yep. Or saying that cliche ass " i did the best i can do " ... Reason why its taking me so long to forgive my mother. I cant see you 100% if you not taking 100% ownership. Idgaf what youve been through. You shouldve dedicated yo life to your child.
Fell like she probably has resentment towards Tommy because she had her at such young age, so probably fells like she lost her youth because of it while she sees Tommy now achieving things, still looking good, having a better life than her... Definitely some jealous going around but is sad because at the same time Tommy is not truly happy and at peace with her own self so now she can't also have a good relationship with her own kids just like her mom, and is a sad n repetitive thing... So sad
everyone in the comments think tommies mom is the worst and i can see where your coming from but like my mom it wasn't up to her. its how she was brought up. she did the best she could and im not saying its right but it might have been the only way she knew. just like my mom. im still mothering her and being her partner. its not healthy and its not right but im all she has as far as support
@@yazminnyoung2948 they fell out at the reunion and it was so sad Bc they rly had a beautiful moment when they revealed the music video. Tommie is just hard headed and defensive and spice rly was trying to help her. Hopefully they peaced it up by now
I love Tommie. Her mom plays the victim and Tommie deserves to just keep her at a distance until she’s willing to accept her part in Tommie’s trauma. A 14 year doesn’t just run away for no reason, something underlying happened and her mom either allowed it to happen or is staying ignorant to it….
Tommie never learned about having boundaries with her family and it shows. They live at your house, eat your food, you pay for them, you have learn to limit that. Always gotta protect your heart.
@@sumzziyo1022 spot on!! He takes her so serious like no jokes and doesn’t diminish or belittle anything she’s talking about. I love seeing platonic love like that
Karlie said Mimi ruined sierras marriage.. by telling her that her husband was cheating on her... but karlie told Mimi Faust, and Rasheeda about they men cheating ... 🤔🤔
I honestly relate to Tommie in so many ways, she got a good heart & wears it on her sleeve, she just has demons that she’s trying to fight & atleast she’s trying to become better
He should of put them in they place and sent they asses out back to where they came from Karlie just obsessed and sina apparently believe she can get him back but with karlie as her friend how does she supposed that can happen sad
Like i understand the baby momma cause her and tommie cool so like tell me some but Karlie...take yo old behind on like she too old for this man fr💯🤦♀️
@@sherric8296 basically spice and tommie have been working on a song and music video and tommie has been showing up at (I’m guessing) Spice’s studio late and is always drinking. Things went severely left after the “pig incident” where Tommie had to take care of her pig because she was sick and Spice didn’t believe her because she thought she was kidding sooooo that’s why they were at some umm...disagreement at the reunion
@Brianna Puyoi. ~ IKR!! Tommie was no angel on LHH, but then again, who is?? Tommie, Jessica Dime, K.Michelle and Josseline WERE the best on LHH ATL, but that’s only my opinion!!! 😜💋❤️
Her mum had her own demons... Which went on to Tommie. I'm a Gemini & have a similar mum issue. It hurts when you want to love them but they're not good for you... But I thank God she's still alive & pray she is well. When you heal yourself you can then accept that not everybody heals but you got to give flowers while you can. Otherwise you repeat the cycle without knowing 😔💕 BLESSINGS TO YOU & YOURS 😇🤗
@@cookielove8174 Is it a Gemini thing 😂😂😂😂?!?! (I’m joking, I know it isn’t a zodiac issue. It’s a toxic parent/environment issue.) I’ve experienced this with both of my parents and I’m a Gemini too.
Tommie is naturally beautiful and I hate how the show glamours her emotional and abusive issues. I can’t wait to see her become the person she was destined to be! GREATNESS!!!
@@thatgirlPAIGE94 no i was in L.A. and recognized her so i was just like “omg your tommie!” and she looked at me, rolled her eyes and said “what about it bitch” and then walked off.
I love Tommie , her mum put her through so much . You can tell she suffers from her childhood traumas , it’s sad the mother continues to blackmail and manipulate her emotionally .
A person who laughs and giggles while they're crying or about to cry, or one who is trying so hard not to cry to the point where they get that knot in their throuts, or when they turn away or look down to wipe their tears quickly so that others can't see them crying... They really have had some type of trauma, and have or still are going through so much in their lives. That's some real emotion right there
@Tanis Haynes The word GOSPEL means “good news.The Good News then is what is taught about something good.This teaching is found in Scripture Alone.The Scripture teaches that God is Holy.God’s Holiness and Sovereignty demand Holiness (complete perfection) from every human.Humanity has sinned, fallen from perfection, and commits sins because we are sinners.God is His holiness is required to be just, therefore, the just condemnation for sin is death.Therefore all men are dead spiritually and will die physically and will enter into a second death eternally.So what’s the good news? God sent the Son, fully God, fully man, born of a virgin, prophesied forever, to live as a human being.Jesus is His name. He is the Christ (messiah), or the Holy Anointed of God.He lived a life of absolute perfection without any sin before God as a man.He then died a death that He did not deserve in order to take the punishment (death) of sinners.His death Atoned (paid for) the sins of His people.Jesus’ death satisfied the wrath of God justly, because He substituted in life (obedience) and death (punishment) for His people.God, through the hearing of this truth, brings to life sinners and causes them to be born again to a living hope in Jesus Christ.Jesus rose from the dead and lives today in order to vindicate all His claims and promises.Therefore, Christ has taken the wrath of God from all who believe, those for whom He died and their sins will be held against them no more.The good news then is that those who trust in this redemption through this God-man Jesus, have eternal life.
I think the reason why people like Tommie so much is because she's so human, so raw and upfront with her emotions, and is dealing with a lot of pain and brokenness and is just trying to make it. But she's a classic example of not being able to save someone from themselves, dealing with an addict and what happens when those childhood wounds go unhealed. I really hope she finds peace in her life.
Tommie's mom crying down on her knees and Tommie hugging her back crying is so relatable and common for alot of blk mothers and daughters I mean the tension, pain, generations of unhealed trauma everytime I see that scene I cry 😢😭💔 healing is so important to stop the cycles of brokenness as mothers and daughters
Here’s the thing about women like Tommie, she’s beautiful with a good heart. However the generational curses that most black women have are due to the attitudes and behaviors we are exposed to and continue to from our family. This hinders our growth, our progress and our success. Simply because people with trauma live too much in the masculine energy and fail to show up in the feminine energy. Look it up, also read the power of now and you’d see what I’m speaking about.
@Rebecca Petty 1k From what I've seen on this video, you are so right. Spice seemed to have been good for Tommie. Tommie is very beautiful, but she needed someone to be real with her about her drinking, as well as other things(without coming off as judgemental) and on this video, Spice seems to be that one. Tommie has a lot on her shoulders and she needs genuine people in her life.
Because Spice is Jamaican they’ll give it to you REAL and RAW. Too many people around Tommy are scared of her. She needs people like Spice in her life.!
Crazy cos my sis is Virgo like Spice n I’m a June Gemini like Tommie.. & she’s literally the best older sister I can have. Without her I would be lost asf! I feel bad for Tommie she never had a older sis to guide her in life type shit. I wish her & spice became good friends but they fell out at the reunion
Omg, Tommie and her mom, made me cry so sad. I hope the fully heal their relationship and Tommie becomes so successful beyond her wildest dreams. She’s a sweet girl that only showers her wrath on those who earned it!
@Gavrielle Alexander Lmao you see how he tried to change the subject to them about to fight?!?! 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂 He is hilarious. I like seeing his funny side! And Joc’s too! Joc is funny as hell as well!
Tommie’s story should definitely be a focus for a reality tv show. I can see so many similarities in her personality with Porsha from RHOA. She’s incredibly entertaining and easy to relate to.
The emotional manipulation from Tommie's mother is so frustrating and reminds me of my own mother. Makes my blood boil, my heart race and my damn head hurt.
I was thinking that same thing! Like how could you come in after being out of your daughters life and then say "im not mad at you for what you said." Wtf is wrooong with her. Tommie deserves better from her mother. 😔
Tommie is super sweet. Unfortunately I met her in an unfortunate situation but she was still smiling and had a positive attitude. I believe it’s her childhood traumas. I’m still living through mine just like many of us are. I’m always #TeamTommie
Tommie may be the most loveable "villan" in the Hip Hop franchise 🤔. I think its bc her brokenness is clear; she's not mean just to be evil or just to shine. She's hurt. And...I wanna pig.
When I first saw Tommie I didn't think she was attractive at all but everytime I see her she just gets more stunning. Tommie has such beautiful features but she is so hurt inside that she lashes out.
I understand Tommie so much. She may be hard on the outside, but on the inside she’s a scared little girl. She pushes people away because she doesn’t want to give them the opportunity to hurt her.
Naw Joseline MOS definitely wasn’t scared of Tommie! Tommie will get dragged by Joseline and she kno dat... dats y she threw dat glass at her bcuh she knew Joseline wah finna murder her (&) she had plenty of times to get to her!
Not really, sometimes, after ALL the undeserved abuse, unearned Disrespect, & Disregard/Hatred you've endured from "Mom", you don't care about her deciding to try to give "Love" now, it's just an insult at this point. You just want her away from you & out of your life.
@@luminescent__ I know how that is.... For sure. I havent seen my parents in 7 years. It was my mother mainly... But my dad is trying to start where we left off. He was shut off emotionally ever since I was a child and never said I loved you or gave his daughter a hug. And now he wants to change and be a father? Sometimes its just to late. He should of done that when I begged him for it. My mother is a whole mother evil. I gained a little bit of weight and if she saw me.. I would NEVER live it down and she would shame and tell everyone. If I'm not pretty like I always was.... I'm nothing to her. I'm done!
@@luminescent__ I can agree with this. After all I’ve been through with my mother, I’m ready to move on. I don’t want her love. I just hope that I learn to fully love myself before I go out to look for a someone.
Imagine Tommie and Erica Mena being in a relationship 🤷🏽♀️.. That would’ve being one toxic and funny duo 😭. It possibly would’ve lead to a tragic ending tho, so I’m kinda glad Tommie kept her distance and not entertained the idea 😩
@@danicakes9212 exactly. Or do what her ma should have done and just stayed out of her life entirely. Period. She just wanted air time and 5 minutes of fame. As a mom myself, it makes me sick.
Her prayer at the end of the vid is sooo funny but wholesome at the same time 😭 Praying that everything goes smoothly and saying she has nothing but love for all of those women in there (and I think reminding herself of that beforehand) except “a couple of b****es” is so funny to me. But I think it also shows that Tommie really has a good heart and wants to be able to consistently show that
I hope Tommie is doing better now that she’s away from the toxicity of the show. I think being on the show contributed to her going on a severe downward spiral plus that woman she calls a mother is no help. I honestly feel if she distances herself away from her and focuses on herself and her children, she will be okay. Edit: I know she’s toxic, that’s why I said I honestly feel if she focused on herself and her children, I think she would be okay. She’s the product of her environment and that was her choice.
i see a lot of my relationship with my mom in tommie and hers. our circumstances were very different, but having an entitled parent who won’t take accountability for the damage they’ve done really affects you as a person. it’s so hard to maintain a relationship with someone who sees no wrong in what they’ve done and who only seeks to blame you for their faults or mistakes.
That's why she is how she is. Shes gotta tough because how her life was. She had to grow up way too fast, you can totally see the pain in her eyes. I love her. Shes so real and genuine. Love her.
toxic parents will always say “I’m not mad at you for what you did” but will never say “what I did was wrong”
#Fact!!!!
🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️👌🏽 this is the one
I'm sry but you need a Grammy to dis
But also you gotta realize toxic parents don’t know they are toxic. They think that since they brought the child into the world , they owe them no respect.
@@vantablack4183 Very right! They act like their kids owe them, regardless. Nope, they sure don’t!
I hate how Karlie be frontin that she’s gangsta. She ain’t gangsta. She needs to take several seats.😂
Big Facts
She just needs to act like rasheeda and Tammy and just keep it cute
@@MilesLDavis I'll give more props to Tammy than the other 2 but all 3 are horrible.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂👏🏾💁🏽
Her mom seems like a narcissist. She can’t handle the fact she was a bad mother; doesn’t like accountability. She keeps pointing the finger at tommie for being a wild child but doesn’t want to admit that her bad parenting molded tommie.. tommie is hurt because her mother won’t be real about it. Poor baby
Yeah I have a parent like this. You can’t even move past anything because they refuse to be real about anything or apologize. I feel tommie completely! It’s even sadder when it’s your mother though!
She reminds me of my mom
@@khailirowan5626 I’m so sorry to hear that, hun.. hoping it gets better for you and if it doesn’t, don’t feel bad if you want to distance yourself from your mom; your peace of mind matters
Fr fr
@@aprilelizabeth6262 thank you so much for the kind words
Her mom seriously damaged her, some people don't deserve children.
Fr bro
What did her mom do?
Facts. It’s sad and heartbreaking to watch. Reminds me of the relationship I have with not only my mother but my father, as well! Arguing when all that is needed is love and understanding 😩😩
That’s not true. Her mom has problems too (like our families) and is misguided to. We don’t know her moms story 💯 she had her at 17... that’s big. What is a 17 year old thinking about? what happened that led to that situation ? where was HER mother ?..etc. We gotta stop judging folks surface and understand their situation. That’s the problem in our community sometime.
@@dejenaelatrice9364 stop it. Everyone is judgemental. Everyone. Stop making it seem like everything negative only happens in the black community.
U know why I like Tommie? I see trauma, I see struggles and I see determination to grow despite the scars and flaws.
That’s exactly what I got
You better be careful wit that.. you gonna have that same attitude with the men you draw in.
@@drknow1997 100% facts ...u soo smart sis
Don't need no fixer uppers
@@drknow1997 yes, however she can decide to keep them at a distance until they work out what they need and maybe seek a relationship! As someone who is Christian, I don’t (date) men who are not in the word, however, I will be their friend and help guide them in hopes that they grow closer with God and if they happen to be for me at some points that’s great🤷🏿♀️
When Tommie said "I don't know YOU, I don't feel comfortable around YOU" man that hit 🎯 I understand that KK was being genuine but you don't do it like this. These women have to heal on their own. I respect Tommie for being vulnerable and at the same time standing up for herself.
She was standing in the truth🔥🔥..no matter what it revealed..I’ve grown to admire her for visibility
“ SHE COULDN’T EVEN THROW HUNDREDS AT ME SHE THROW ONES , ITS VERY DISRESPECTFUL.... ITS VERY DISRESPECTFUL” 😂 😂 😂 #TOMMIESHYT
That’s my favorite line😂😝👆🏾
Leaving Scrappy to pick them up. LMAO!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@heda gabriel 4th
😂🤣👏i loved it when she said that
Tommiee not toxic, she's broken!! Forced to grow up at a early age..never had a mother figure to show her true love nor a father figure!! The streets taught her love and that's all she knows to put out!! Wit a little focus and determination she will be successful ❣❣
Well said 💯💯 👏🏾
Tommie tried to murder Joseline with a car while pregnant
SHES TOXIC !
She's toxic bc she's broken all toxic people are broken lmaooo
Facts. She will be alright...she loves her kids and is passionate enough to do what ever she wants
That breaks my heart.. I know what it’s like not having a dad but not a mom. That must be hard to have two parents who aren’t present in your life. I would feel lost.
When Tommie said to her mom “Idw a relationship with you, just fix it with your other children”, that broke my heart cause I know exactly what that’s like. You lost hope in that person. It’s too far gone but for the other kids who still hold on, you just want better for them. So much pain there.
And for her to say “I don’t want it either bye” like wtf??? Idk anything about tommie until recently and didn’t care for her much but that just explained SO MUCH and I feel for her heavy. Idk what I would do if my mom wasn’t my best friend, wow 19:44
@lovemyfrenns Right my mom is my everything ❤
Yeah I gave up on that shit in middle school😂
I know that feeling to well because my mama didn't love me from the start it's always was about her boy's
@@lovemyfrennsSame here.
“she couldn’t even throw HUNDREDS at me, she threw ONEESS?? its very DISRESPECTFUL” *favorite line YET*
Why is karlie so obsessed with joc? She’s embarrassing herself 🤦🏼♀️
Fr bro
Ikr like girl just leave him alone
So emotional i cried a few xs
She’s like that with every man tho tbh
Fr
“She couldn’t even throw hunnids at me, she threw ones, that’s very disrespectful” I love her 💕🤣
The song tommie and spice did was actually good asf 😂
I know right I had to replay it like 10 times
Love to know who did your beautiful illustration pic.
the only good song i heard on this show 😭
Ikr
Ong
Damn Spice was real af. She set Tommie straight and she needed that.
Most definitely 💯 shit was funny though🤣
@@brownsugabae6110 lmfaoo they was yellin about a damn pig💀 ik it was deeper than that but still funny asl
@@naia1362 lmao😂😂 Spice was just fed up with Tommie drunk bullshit and wanted her to do better that's all... But it definitely was funny mann😂
Girl all that shit was fake she did not set shit straight that was all scripted it all came out the whole storyline of the pig being sick was fake
@@sunnysidedown5358 you still watching this fake ass show so why you complaining 🤣
As much as KK wanted to make amends between Tommie and her mom you can't force a relationship between a narcissist and their victim. The minute Tommie walked in her mom was soft spoken, she was acting nice but the minute Tommie said something her real character came out. There is nothing wrong with wanting no relationship with a toxic person, even your mother.
I hate how much parents victimize themselves like no it’s not about you. The sad thing about it is how much parents victimize themselves and manipulate their children into thinking that you shouldn’t feel this way because they did this much for you and you need to respect them even though you’re getting disrespected. I find it crazy and I still have to deal with this sadly.
Yep
Yep. Or saying that cliche ass " i did the best i can do " ... Reason why its taking me so long to forgive my mother. I cant see you 100% if you not taking 100% ownership. Idgaf what youve been through. You shouldve dedicated yo life to your child.
my whole age of 23 rn is realizing this.
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Same tell me about it 🤔💔
Tommie’s mom projects her own issues onto Tommie and that’s why she is the way that she is :/
Her mother is a classic narcissistic maniac. Tommie needs to stay the fuck away from that woman.
Fell like she probably has resentment towards Tommy because she had her at such young age, so probably fells like she lost her youth because of it while she sees Tommy now achieving things, still looking good, having a better life than her... Definitely some jealous going around but is sad because at the same time Tommy is not truly happy and at peace with her own self so now she can't also have a good relationship with her own kids just like her mom, and is a sad n repetitive thing... So sad
Sounds like blac chyna’s mum
I almost feel like Tommie is a lost cause. She is in such a mess it’s probably pathological. She is either Borderline or Histrionic PD
everyone in the comments think tommies mom is the worst and i can see where your coming from but like my mom it wasn't up to her. its how she was brought up. she did the best she could and im not saying its right but it might have been the only way she knew. just like my mom. im still mothering her and being her partner. its not healthy and its not right but im all she has as far as support
I REALLY WANNA SEE THIS WOMAN WIN. SHES HAD A ROUGH LIFE AND DRINKS TO MASK IT. COME ON TOMMY YOU CAN DO IT SIS.
The way Tommie REJECTED Erica's gayness lmaooooo Tommie wasn't even flattered.
She’s pretty hopefully she’s doing we’ll
"Tommie took the bracelet "🤣🤣🤣
Tommie is bisexual tho, I guess Erica reminded her a little too much of Joseline after their own love encounters 💀💀💀
I would've accepted tf 😻💁🏽... Tommie too
She got down with joseline shes gay
Can we all agree tommie is so gorgeous 😍😍
so gorgeous is a stretch, I would say she is a pretty girl.
So gorgeous 😍
@@maramara7494 U mean "very" right?
@J money I know right 😍
@@SuperSouthchick mhm, I would say she is a very strong beautiful gorgeous woman
They need to stop trying to force Tommie to talk and make amends with her mom...Samantha needs to work on herself
I wish Tommie and Spice would’ve stayed friends. I wish she knew Spice was trying to help.
What happened between them?
@@yazminnyoung2948 they fell out at the reunion and it was so sad Bc they rly had a beautiful moment when they revealed the music video. Tommie is just hard headed and defensive and spice rly was trying to help her. Hopefully they peaced it up by now
@@megmur1766 I feel like karlie has improved but she got deep deep inside accountability issues I think she gets it from her.
Yeah. Spice really cared about Tommie
Sometimes Gemini’s delusional, so you have to keep trying until they understand, that’s why they the element in air 💨
Scrappy’s face while stuffing them ones in his pockets takes me out every time 🤣🤣
Yess ... like " lemme just steal these while they're fighting , they won't notice " 🤣🤣🤣
I said the same thing!!! 🤣🤣🤣 like he was thirsty for them ones! 🤣🥰🤣😎
That would’ve been me. They throw money too much on this show 😂😂😂
He makes me sick 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Need to pay that child support lol
I love Tommie. Her mom plays the victim and Tommie deserves to just keep her at a distance until she’s willing to accept her part in Tommie’s trauma. A 14 year doesn’t just run away for no reason, something underlying happened and her mom either allowed it to happen or is staying ignorant to it….
Tommie saying "disperse" to Karlie still cracks me up 😂
😂😂😂😂
Tommie’s fashion is ON POINT
Yessssss 👏🏾
Sometimes
fax
@@sosacapone6 facts*
@@sunnysidedown5358 same thing lmao .
Tommie never learned about having boundaries with her family and it shows. They live at your house, eat your food, you pay for them, you have learn to limit that. Always gotta protect your heart.
Anybody else notices how Joc be gazzing at Tommie so Dreamy like..."this beautiful ass thug😱🥰"
I’d gaze at her like that too she’s 😍😍😍😍
Yes. And he acts so serious, like a real man around her all the time. He admires her
yup lol
@@sumzziyo1022 bruh y'all don't know him 🗿
@@sumzziyo1022 spot on!! He takes her so serious like no jokes and doesn’t diminish or belittle anything she’s talking about. I love seeing platonic love like that
Karlie said Mimi ruined sierras marriage.. by telling her that her husband was cheating on her... but karlie told Mimi Faust, and Rasheeda about they men cheating ... 🤔🤔
Exactly!
Isn’t Rasheeda still with Kirk? Also even
when Karlie told Mimi something she still tried to work it out with Stebiee
By Karlie's logic, she ruined her friend's marriage 😂
Karlie probably thinks her being friends with those women makes a difference. 🙄
Her hypocrisy shows well too damn much
I honestly relate to Tommie in so many ways, she got a good heart & wears it on her sleeve, she just has demons that she’s trying to fight & atleast she’s trying to become better
Why would Joc need to explain to Karlie and his Baby Momma anything at the same damn time?
THIS COMMENT !! That shit was so cringey when they walked up in there together looking like they had just caught Joc cheating. Like I was so confused
@@akiraduncan2252 Right! They look so stupid
He should of put them in they place and sent they asses out back to where they came from Karlie just obsessed and sina apparently believe she can get him back but with karlie as her friend how does she supposed that can happen sad
😎💯
Like i understand the baby momma cause her and tommie cool so like tell me some but Karlie...take yo old behind on like she too old for this man fr💯🤦♀️
U can tell spice really care about her and she was so disrespectful to spice at the reunion smh
What happened??
I never understood how things went left.
@@sherric8296 basically spice and tommie have been working on a song and music video and tommie has been showing up at (I’m guessing) Spice’s studio late and is always drinking. Things went severely left after the “pig incident” where Tommie had to take care of her pig because she was sick and Spice didn’t believe her because she thought she was kidding sooooo that’s why they were at some umm...disagreement at the reunion
@@taffi_taffy9182 of all things why would tommie lie about having to take care of a pig 💀
@@naia1362 I don’t know, that’s what happened in the show
When Tommie start talking about other people relationships with their mothers and just wanting a supportive mom My soul felt that
Tommie is such a great person she just have her ways NOBODY IS PERFECT ‼️
Yeah, Bipolar 🤣
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@Brianna Puyoi. ~ IKR!! Tommie was no angel on LHH, but then again, who is?? Tommie, Jessica Dime, K.Michelle and Josseline WERE the best on LHH ATL, but that’s only my opinion!!! 😜💋❤️
Yup!!!..
I wouldn’t call someone that can’t be around her own kids “great” but that’s me
Tommie mom is so Toxic she reminds me alot like my mom
I feel it my dad is toxic stay cheating on my mom calls her names my mom mental state is not the best because of my dad truly sad 😞
same
Its called, a narc mum
Her mum had her own demons... Which went on to Tommie. I'm a Gemini & have a similar mum issue. It hurts when you want to love them but they're not good for you... But I thank God she's still alive & pray she is well.
When you heal yourself you can then accept that not everybody heals but you got to give flowers while you can. Otherwise you repeat the cycle without knowing 😔💕 BLESSINGS TO YOU & YOURS 😇🤗
@@cookielove8174 Is it a Gemini thing 😂😂😂😂?!?! (I’m joking, I know it isn’t a zodiac issue. It’s a toxic parent/environment issue.) I’ve experienced this with both of my parents and I’m a Gemini too.
Tommie is naturally beautiful and I hate how the show glamours her emotional and abusive issues. I can’t wait to see her become the person she was destined to be! GREATNESS!!!
Tommie is completely misunderstood. I’ll always root for her ♥️
nah she’s really a disgusting person. I always thought the attitude was for TV until i met her in person. she’s worse.
@@AH-xf5jk | Ohh no! What happened? Was it a meet-and-greet type of event?
@@AH-xf5jk LIES . I MET HER IN PERSON SHE IS SWEET IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR VIBE . SHE PROBABLY WASNT FEELING YOUR FAKE ASS VIBE 😭😭😭🤦🤦IJS.
@@RedMRobyn_LetsTalkAboutIt okay you’re weird and mad pressed.
@@thatgirlPAIGE94 no i was in L.A. and recognized her so i was just like “omg your tommie!” and she looked at me, rolled her eyes and said “what about it bitch” and then walked off.
I love Tommie , her mum put her through so much . You can tell she suffers from her childhood traumas , it’s sad the mother continues to blackmail and manipulate her emotionally .
Her mama sent her to juvie cus she couldnt control her what so bad did she go thru i know ppl been thru wayyy worse dont act like thaf
@@mariacharra6045 people handle stuff differently doesn’t matter if it was way worst
@@mariacharra6045 wtf does that mean? You still dont know her entire life story. Stfu 🤦🏾
Damn shame her mom comes when she n a good space n rips the bandaid off n she bleeds again so sad
@@mariacharra6045 she just didn't want Tommie she didn't exspect her to be the one who would win hurt n all she is still winning beautiful n bad
A person who laughs and giggles while they're crying or about to cry, or one who is trying so hard not to cry to the point where they get that knot in their throuts, or when they turn away or look down to wipe their tears quickly so that others can't see them crying... They really have had some type of trauma, and have or still are going through so much in their lives. That's some real emotion right there
Her family acting like she's their provider.....get a life, people!
Or atleast help her. I do feel like they will ride or die 4 her though.
She is their provider. Tommie did a doc about herself, her mom was a booster and taught tommie how to boost too. Just reckless and now Tommie suffers.
@@thatraspyshxt so sad....not like its all underaged kids that live with her too. I'm disgusted
@@thatraspyshxt what’s a booster?
@@loveiseverythingx3713 a thief
Tommie always tries to put her best forward no matter what, that's what makes her geniune
Scrappy picking up those one dollar bills. brilliant he always makes me laugh.
I believe Tommie is the way she is because she carries her fam on her shoulders
They need to be on " fix my life "
She's beautiful inside n out
You are deceived.
Agreed.
They need family therapy, not another reality tv show.
@Tanis Haynes The word GOSPEL means “good news.The Good News then is what is taught about something good.This teaching is found in Scripture Alone.The Scripture teaches that God is Holy.God’s Holiness and Sovereignty demand Holiness (complete perfection) from every human.Humanity has sinned, fallen from perfection, and commits sins because we are sinners.God is His holiness is required to be just, therefore, the just condemnation for sin is death.Therefore all men are dead spiritually and will die physically and will enter into a second death eternally.So what’s the good news? God sent the Son, fully God, fully man, born of a virgin, prophesied forever, to live as a human being.Jesus is His name. He is the Christ (messiah), or the Holy Anointed of God.He lived a life of absolute perfection without any sin before God as a man.He then died a death that He did not deserve in order to take the punishment (death) of sinners.His death Atoned (paid for) the sins of His people.Jesus’ death satisfied the wrath of God justly, because He substituted in life (obedience) and death (punishment) for His people.God, through the hearing of this truth, brings to life sinners and causes them to be born again to a living hope in Jesus Christ.Jesus rose from the dead and lives today in order to vindicate all His claims and promises.Therefore, Christ has taken the wrath of God from all who believe, those for whom He died and their sins will be held against them no more.The good news then is that those who trust in this redemption through this God-man Jesus, have eternal life.
@@john146muaythai Ok so what does that have to do with the comment.
I think the reason why people like Tommie so much is because she's so human, so raw and upfront with her emotions, and is dealing with a lot of pain and brokenness and is just trying to make it. But she's a classic example of not being able to save someone from themselves, dealing with an addict and what happens when those childhood wounds go unhealed. I really hope she finds peace in her life.
So relatable on every level. Every day you gotta fight. For everything.
Yup and the best part is because she’s relatable
Tommie's mom crying down on her knees and Tommie hugging her back crying is so relatable and common for alot of blk mothers and daughters I mean the tension, pain, generations of unhealed trauma everytime I see that scene I cry 😢😭💔 healing is so important to stop the cycles of brokenness as mothers and daughters
Here’s the thing about women like Tommie, she’s beautiful with a good heart. However the generational curses that most black women have are due to the attitudes and behaviors we are exposed to and continue to from our family. This hinders our growth, our progress and our success. Simply because people with trauma live too much in the masculine energy and fail to show up in the feminine energy. Look it up, also read the power of now and you’d see what I’m speaking about.
You are so right!👏🏽👏🏽
Preach Sister!
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
It’s a great book I need to finish it
Spot on!!!
“He doing Tommie Sh* babe” 😂😂😂❤️
😂
Okkkkkkkkkkkkkk😜😜😜😜
LMFAOOOOO love tommie yo
Fuckin love her lol
“You see what’s up with em bitch disperse”
I love how Tommie has grown and made herself a new life for herself. Keep dreaming, keep growing and moving from strength to strength Tommie❤🎉
“She ain’t bipolar, she qua-polar” now I know what to call myself🥲
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I thought she said "Tri Polar"
Lmao🤣
I think she said , “she’s qua-polar” like quadruple the polar😂
Karlie gets herself into a lot of BS for a person who can't fight. I hope she included security on the list of things she's grateful for😂
Manee I come back to this every few months. Only real ones gone understand.
I just Want Tommie to Win SOOO BAD. 💯 Ts hurts how bad I want her to make it , she's so misunderstood.
Right!
Gemini tingz
She has been doing better since getting off the show
@@eskyasmith9331 it seems that’s how it typically goes, the show seems toxic tbh
@@naia1362 it's not depending on how you use the platform.
Spice was like a big sister to Tommie I truly hope they would fix their relationship and work together again
Yeeeeees I love them together 😭❤
@Rebecca Petty 1k From what I've seen on this video, you are so right. Spice seemed to have been good for Tommie. Tommie is very beautiful, but she needed someone to be real with her about her drinking, as well as other things(without coming off as judgemental) and on this video, Spice seems to be that one. Tommie has a lot on her shoulders and she needs genuine people in her life.
Because Spice is Jamaican they’ll give it to you REAL and RAW. Too many people around Tommy are scared of her. She needs people like Spice in her life.!
Crazy cos my sis is Virgo like Spice n I’m a June Gemini like Tommie.. & she’s literally the best older sister I can have. Without her I would be lost asf! I feel bad for Tommie she never had a older sis to guide her in life type shit. I wish her & spice became good friends but they fell out at the reunion
What happened between Tommie and Spice? Last I heard they were doing a song together.
Omg, Tommie and her mom, made me cry so sad. I hope the fully heal their relationship and Tommie becomes so successful beyond her wildest dreams. She’s a sweet girl that only showers her wrath on those who earned it!
Scrap is a mess grabbing the money 😂😂😂
Girrrl you know I would toops a couple of dollars my self 😂😂💸
It was hilarious. He sat back like the cameras didn’t catch that. Lmao. The look on his face. 😂😂😂😂😂
I laughed so hard seeing that 🤣
@Gavrielle Alexander Lmao you see how he tried to change the subject to them about to fight?!?! 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂 He is hilarious. I like seeing his funny side! And Joc’s too! Joc is funny as hell as well!
Lol he ain't wrong though 😂
spice really loved tommie, she wanted better for her in every aspects; it’s just a shame that tommie couldn’t see it and ruined their friendship.
Tommie is ungrateful
@@angelsalwayswithme1 so tru
Tommie’s story should definitely be a focus for a reality tv show. I can see so many similarities in her personality with Porsha from RHOA. She’s incredibly entertaining and easy to relate to.
And young bae from black ink crew new york
The emotional manipulation from Tommie's mother is so frustrating and reminds me of my own mother. Makes my blood boil, my heart race and my damn head hurt.
Same
The level of anger I felt reading this is ✨ASTRONOMICAL✨
I was thinking that same thing! Like how could you come in after being out of your daughters life and then say "im not mad at you for what you said." Wtf is wrooong with her. Tommie deserves better from her mother. 😔
Happen with my father but I felt this!
Ditto
karlies obsession with joc is not a good look
Exactly, it’s weird
@Dj Sumner she want that man, she prolly jealous he found love and it’s not her😭
I think he still like Karlie tbh he still be flirting with her even when Kendra came on the show.
I don't know him
Tommie is super sweet. Unfortunately I met her in an unfortunate situation but she was still smiling and had a positive attitude. I believe it’s her childhood traumas. I’m still living through mine just like many of us are. I’m always #TeamTommie
Seeing them without masks is so nostalgic.
This is two years old
@@King4Lyfe thats why I said it. Feels like its been that damn long since masks weren't a thing
right? I miss doing full face makeup like they do on the show 😩
@@monica-ke1dk me too!!! I miss liquid lipstick and lip gloss 😫😫😫😫
@@monica-ke1dk now all I do is my eyebrows😂😂
Tommie may be the most loveable "villan" in the Hip Hop franchise 🤔. I think its bc her brokenness is clear; she's not mean just to be evil or just to shine. She's hurt. And...I wanna pig.
My facial expressions went from 😩🥺 to 😹😹🤡 you’re very silly and I like you😹😹😹
Tommie has real SUPERSTAR potential. She shines brighter than everybody on love and hiphop and that’s a fact. She has true real talent
Talent? We aint seen shit
Right I feel like she’s always misunderstood
You can say anything about her but you can’t say she’s not real ✨
If VH1 think that I’m going to waste nearly an hour watching Tommie...Then they’re absolutely RIGHT!! Now where’s my popcorn at...🍿🍿🍿👀. !!!!
@Yvette Archer Got it ready!! (And a cheeky shot or 2 of Henny lol) 😜😘❤️
@Yvette Archer ~ Me before a few shots off Henny = 😜
Me after a few shots of Henny = 🥳🥳🥳🤪🤪🤣🤣🤣😈😈😈😈🥴🥴🥴🤢🤢🤮🤮
Absolutely Positively 🙂🙂🙂🙂🤪🤪
i ate all mine lol
🤣😂👏👏👏
Scrappy’s reactions to all the drama around him is gold 👀😮😂😂😂
😂😂he be like omg is this the projects?👀😭😭😭
@@naimiabrown1059 Hahaha. His mother was literally a pimp, and she‘s off the wall coocoo & yet he still gets surprised by everyone else around him 🤣
He scrapped up that money Karlie threw too.
😂😂😂😂
Is no one gonna talk about the scene with tommie and her daughter it was too cute
Melted my heart ❤️
Spice: "You can't be late tree hours"
Tommie: "TREEEEEEE??"
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
DRAAAKEEEE ? 💀💀💀😂😂
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Lmfao that had me dying
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The talk at the table within the Mother and her two daughters about drinking was Miraculous!!! ❤❤❤
Tommie's sunglasses collection 😍😍
Just imagine if Tommie was on bad girls club 😂
Edit: why i predict the future tho 😂😂😂😂
😲😬
Mamas would have made it to the end or been kicked out 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mane, that would have been one lit season
I wish she would've been .. omg
Tommie would beat up the whole house cause she gets sparked up for anything😂😂😂
When I first saw Tommie I didn't think she was attractive at all but everytime I see her she just gets more stunning.
Tommie has such beautiful features but she is so hurt inside that she lashes out.
There is a lot of people out there who are hurt and you will never know!! Treat people how you would like to be treated...
Tommiee is a hurt, lost, black woman. I’m supporting her and hope everything goes well for her and her kids.
Tommie is adorable. I hope she learns how to battle her demons because she could really be something special. Hell she already is🤩
I understand Tommie so much. She may be hard on the outside, but on the inside she’s a scared little girl. She pushes people away because she doesn’t want to give them the opportunity to hurt her.
Perfectly said
KK trying to play Inyala is hilarious 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing lmao 🤣🤣🤣
@@mumusil she spat on Joseline 🤮
I wish tommie and her fam would go to iyanla 💖 for the healing ‼️
@@lesliegarcia1240 I thought about that too but then again I don’t think that would be a good idea 😂😂
Joseline definitely met her match with tommie !! Tommie shit babe!
Period
@@lipeznsksk9868 POOH ‼️🤨
Hell yeah! I wanna see a fight between the 2 cuz everyone was cared of Joseline til tommie
Yasssssss #TommyIsTheTruth 💯💯
Naw Joseline MOS definitely wasn’t scared of Tommie! Tommie will get dragged by Joseline and she kno dat... dats y she threw dat glass at her bcuh she knew Joseline wah finna murder her (&) she had plenty of times to get to her!
I absolutely love tommie. She has been thru it. I see trauma and just sadness written all over her. She needs true friends/family.
It doesn’t matter how old you are. You’re going to want your mother to show love
Not really, sometimes, after ALL the undeserved abuse, unearned Disrespect, & Disregard/Hatred you've endured from "Mom", you don't care about her deciding to try to give "Love" now, it's just an insult at this point. You just want her away from you & out of your life.
@@luminescent__ I know how that is.... For sure. I havent seen my parents in 7 years. It was my mother mainly... But my dad is trying to start where we left off. He was shut off emotionally ever since I was a child and never said I loved you or gave his daughter a hug. And now he wants to change and be a father? Sometimes its just to late. He should of done that when I begged him for it. My mother is a whole mother evil. I gained a little bit of weight and if she saw me.. I would NEVER live it down and she would shame and tell everyone. If I'm not pretty like I always was.... I'm nothing to her. I'm done!
@@europianbob 🥰🥰🥰🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️🕯️🕯️🕯️
@@luminescent__ I can agree with this. After all I’ve been through with my mother, I’m ready to move on. I don’t want her love. I just hope that I learn to fully love myself before I go out to look for a someone.
@@europianbob sounds like my parents smh 🤦🏾♀️
When scrappy grabbed the money off the floor🤣
You know his ass is Broke 🤣🤣
@@crissyredd9415 scrapp needed money in the bank 🤣🤣🤣
@@archerlasvega Okaykaykaykay
🤦🏾♂️🤣
Wow I LOVE Tommy's style. She dresses amazing and is stunning and beautiful!
I wish Tommie and Dime would get together for real Both very beautiful lovable women ❤️
The way rasheeda was looking at tommie mom😭
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Why did I read this soon as Rasheeda started looking at her 😭😂
@@lovelyleina2934 😭😭
At the wine tasting samantha was wired! You could tell. She was looking dry and came in there looking a mess.
She a Gemini baby ^
Black American women are so beautiful 😍😍effortlessly so
Imagine Tommie and Erica Mena being in a relationship 🤷🏽♀️.. That would’ve being one toxic and funny duo 😭. It possibly would’ve lead to a tragic ending tho, so I’m kinda glad Tommie kept her distance and not entertained the idea 😩
Watching Erica try to hit on tommie all over again was so cringe, like ma’am just stop 😂🤦🏽♀️
Tommie bringing that Gemini Energy all Day. 😆🤞
All day. 6/19
@@Sunshinelady82 6/13. 😏
Yes someone finally said it!!! Gemini gang!
@@MsDemanuel Gang. 🤞
6/3
Tommy’s prayer before going to speak to everyone is such a relatable moment
Right I thought it was so funny
The flashback of Rich's reaction to Erica singing in the studio makes me laugh uncontrollably 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 me too
Same 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
His facial expression took me slam outttttt 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Erica just can’t sing.. auto tune didn’t even help!
I love how Mimi always had Tommies back , more than just fighting but business and emotionally, those friends are hard to find
I love the way Tommie’s hair was styled during her disagreement with Spice at the video shoot
Tommie’s ma wasn’t ready to be a mom at 17 & she won’t ever be ready. Some people just aren’t meant to have children.
It's sad and completely avoidable. We all know how children are made. If you dont want them, take the proper precautions.
@@danicakes9212 exactly. Or do what her ma should have done and just stayed out of her life entirely. Period. She just wanted air time and 5 minutes of fame. As a mom myself, it makes me sick.
@Yours Truly They do.
Her prayer at the end of the vid is sooo funny but wholesome at the same time 😭 Praying that everything goes smoothly and saying she has nothing but love for all of those women in there (and I think reminding herself of that beforehand) except “a couple of b****es” is so funny to me. But I think it also shows that Tommie really has a good heart and wants to be able to consistently show that
I hope Tommie is doing better now that she’s away from the toxicity of the show. I think being on the show contributed to her going on a severe downward spiral plus that woman she calls a mother is no help. I honestly feel if she distances herself away from her and focuses on herself and her children, she will be okay. Edit: I know she’s toxic, that’s why I said I honestly feel if she focused on herself and her children, I think she would be okay. She’s the product of her environment and that was her choice.
She’s toxic tho
@@michaelsliders3421 ehhh 🙄
I follow her on Instagram and she's enjoying her life with her daughters and new granddaughter
@@lisbethlivingston6216 she is tf
@The Black Naruto Blog that’s why she needs to focus on herself as well
Tommie's evolution was the most epic. She calmed down the most and she was the most hype.
Her and dime
i see a lot of my relationship with my mom in tommie and hers. our circumstances were very different, but having an entitled parent who won’t take accountability for the damage they’ve done really affects you as a person. it’s so hard to maintain a relationship with someone who sees no wrong in what they’ve done and who only seeks to blame you for their faults or mistakes.
I dont like how everybody embellished Tommy's drinking story. I've definetely seen worse!
She does need help. But at least she could still function with or without it.
It is not embellished. Lol
@Chelsea Painter I was not aware of that.
@@Porkchopzngravy yeah lol.
There are functional addicts 🤨
Karlie: You buddied up with the scam artist
Me: You was married to Arkansas Moe😬
How about about Tommie calling Karlie a grandma but yet Tommie became one before Karlie 🤣🤣🤣
I mean true but can you call it genuine if it happened that quick
😩😩🤔🤭🤣
The PPE LOAN LIAR
HOLLERIN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's why she is how she is. Shes gotta tough because how her life was. She had to grow up way too fast, you can totally see the pain in her eyes. I love her. Shes so real and genuine. Love her.
"THAT'S WHAT CUZZO JOC GET FOR PLAYING WITH THA FIAHHHH!" -Scrappy 😂🤣🤣🤣 I can't
It's the literal way he said fire that sent me!!!
Scrappy has the most funny commentary lol
I live for his confessionals ok 😂😂😂💯
I was looking for this comment 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭