From Zero to $3K in 3 months writing Short Romance! 📚 Interview with Ella Barnard

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  • Today we’re delighted to welcome Ella Barnard to the SPA. Ella is an author, a podcast host on Author Like A Boss podcast, and an author coach. She’s here today to talk about how she found success publishing short romances as Liz Fox, going from zero to $3k per month in just three months.
    You can find her at: authorlikeaboss.com/
    Going from zero to $3k per month in just a few months is a dream for many of us and today’s guest achieved just that. Ella Barnard is here to talk how she did it, how she meets reader expectations, and most importantly, how we can still enjoy the process!
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  • @tammyesposito
    @tammyesposito หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a game-changer for me! Thank you ladies.

  • @bruceryba5740
    @bruceryba5740 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Such a fun person to listen to!

  • @lauramccarthy3639
    @lauramccarthy3639 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved this interview! I’ve made so many notes! ❤

  • @AGNIvedaa
    @AGNIvedaa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great show 🎉🎉🎉 I enjoyed sooo much listening you ❤❤❤ thank you ❤

  • @leannemoyer285
    @leannemoyer285 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome Video! I'm so glad I found you guys!!!

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We're glad you found us too, Leanne! xx

  • @AphroditeLee
    @AphroditeLee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This has been AWESOME! So GLAD I found you!

  • @RandomRandisRamblings
    @RandomRandisRamblings 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved this interview with Ella. Thanks so much for always bringing us quality content, ladies!

  • @zm6631
    @zm6631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for sharing with us another great interview. I really appreciate the way Ella broke down the structure of her books chapter by chapter.

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Ella is awesome :)

  • @jillbrashear2263
    @jillbrashear2263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have listened to this several times. Such great info! Thanks!!

  • @catcoluccio
    @catcoluccio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was such an informative and inspiring episode - thank you!

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome Cat, thanks for tuning in!

  • @melibaut
    @melibaut ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! And thanks for breaking down the structure of the book. I'll definitely try that method.

  • @tammybryant2037
    @tammybryant2037 ปีที่แล้ว

    This helped me so much. Thanks ladies.

  • @hjad2625
    @hjad2625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome and thank you ! I will add in comments for your algorithms

  • @lucylennoxmm
    @lucylennoxmm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you all. This was amazing.

  • @TheHaHaEnigma
    @TheHaHaEnigma 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for all the helpful info ❤

  • @cowgirljane6976
    @cowgirljane6976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative and inspiring!

  • @janestanley5746
    @janestanley5746 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @jflsdknf
    @jflsdknf ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I followed the chapter-by-chapter structure and beats she laid out in this video, wrote a 10k story, and listed the book on Booksprout. It did not go over well, the main complaint being the structure/pacing. Readers felt it was too fast and lacking detail. Basically that it was too short. Very curious to know if her or anyone else following this structure had similar results when it came to reviews or feedback after publishing.

    • @HolziWolziWooo
      @HolziWolziWooo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds like you just hit the wrong audience! If you're hitting all the similar beats as successful authors in your niche, it's more likely those readers are just not your audience.

    • @jflsdknf
      @jflsdknf ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HolziWolziWooo Probably right... even so, even with ARC reviews, doing a preorder, and a professional cover, this book just brought in a whopping $5 on release day. A joke. I've lost a lot of money at this point. I started publishing in 2016, and back then I released a book with no reviews that made $1,800. I honestly think KDP is flooded and just dying if not already dead, especially for those who don't use ads. Just my experience.

  • @mical7582
    @mical7582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Can you please interview more clean romance authors.

  • @JoyCollado
    @JoyCollado 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find that short books like this ~50 pages, only work for erotica because readers in this genre have different expectations than readers in other genres.

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Joy, check out the 60, 90 and 2 hour reads lists on Amazon - lots of romance (spicy and sweet) too! ❤️

  • @Financiallyfreeauthor
    @Financiallyfreeauthor ปีที่แล้ว

    This might work well for me. I under write and struggle to reach what I consider an okay word count!

  • @QasimAliWriter
    @QasimAliWriter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing this great info! I wanna start publishing in short reads? I see that this video is from a year ago. Do 10k work short romance reads still work? How many books do we need when starting out?

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go for it! they're still really popular - see the Amazon Short Reads categories :) Authors writing in the romance short reads tend to publish at least monthly.

  • @Strathroyantiquemall
    @Strathroyantiquemall ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have suggestions for how to do AMS ads ?

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      check out David Gaughran's blog post on 9 ways to improve amazon ads. For a good primer, Deb Potter's book "Amazon Ads For Authors" is excellent place to start : www.amazon.com/Amazon-Ads-Authors-Strategies-Books-ebook/dp/B07TVXQBMY Deb also did a podcast with us episode #334 www.selfpublishingauthorspodcast.com/spa-girls-podcast-ep334-amazon-ads-with-deb-potter/

  • @Strathroyantiquemall
    @Strathroyantiquemall ปีที่แล้ว

    I got mixed up is chapter 5 just the kiss? and chapter six is the leading up to but not all the way and the misunderstanding?

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Check out Ella's website and blog where she details it all :) authorlikeaboss.com/blog-2/

  • @dinascott8815
    @dinascott8815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to check out her books. What is her pen name? I can't find her on Amazon.
    Also, do you think this would work well on Kindle Vella?

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Dina, Ella publishes her short romances as Liz Fox on Amazon. Would recommend you join a Kindle Vella author group on facebook and check what length authors are finding success with. We can't access Vella as non-US authors, so can't share our personal experience I'm afraid! ~ Shar

  • @jacquestaulard3088
    @jacquestaulard3088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderfully informative. Are there men writing romance, that is, successfully?

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jacques, yes there are definitely male romance writers - and have been for decades (eg. Leigh Greenwood)

    • @nikkihall7994
      @nikkihall7994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are more men writing romance than many realize because almost all use feminine sounding pen names.

    • @jacquestaulard3088
      @jacquestaulard3088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the encouraging tone. Does a man's story also feature a man as main character?

    • @nikkihall7994
      @nikkihall7994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacquestaulard3088 All romances have two main characters. Basically both people falling in love. (Whether it's a man and a woman, two men, or even more than two people.) In a romance you typically see the relationship develop through both perspectives. I think if you were to write a love story but only from the POV of one character it might be categorized as general fiction. I could be wrong, of course, I have just never read a romance that hasn't featured at least two main characters. Hope that helps.

    • @jacquestaulard3088
      @jacquestaulard3088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nikkihall7994 Ah! Very well put. My normal stories feature at least one lead, but regarding writing a point of view for a woman, sigh....never figured any woman out in my personal life enough to paint an accurate portrait...except with too many dark corners! But, who knows? I happen to like love stories, even participating in them. Perhaps I can give a reader the pleasures I get with them?

  • @katrinamillings3651
    @katrinamillings3651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to know how she's doing now. Amazon is currently giving the short reads romance writers a hard time. I've read some Liz Fox books and she is romance, not erotica, but some erotica authors were miscatting into short romance and Amazon is cracking down like they do sometimes. Often times, legit authors get caught in the net. I'm starting an urban fantasy name and sticking to that from now on. Zero sex. UF readers are just as loyal as romance readers and you don't have that headache to deal with.

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, romance writers often get the end of the short stick with 'Zon algos. All the best with your new UF, Katrina! ~ Shar

  • @steffnicholson9370
    @steffnicholson9370 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I personally wonder if her books are really erotica and not romance. Would love to hear some interviews with clean romance authors.

    • @SPAGirlsPodcast
      @SPAGirlsPodcast  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They def follow the romance structure Steff. We've got some clean romance authors coming up on the podcast in coming months - we do try to feature writers with all heat levels :) - If you haven't already, do have a listen to our episodes with Elana Johnson ~ Shar

  • @oORegularKevOo
    @oORegularKevOo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    55:40 I don't think this is true. We have that same doubt. It is just that society does not allow us to express it without judgement. That is actually why many of us started writing.

    • @katrinamillings3651
      @katrinamillings3651 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I have a lot of male friends and they are just like me. Am I good enough to get a promotion? Am I good enough to start my own business? Men and women aren't that different in that way. We're all human with doubts and worries.