They have a lifetime warranty I think. I sent in a knife with broken scissors. I took out the tweezers and tooth pick and tiny screwdriver. They returned the knife with new scissors and totally cleaned the knife. The also replaced all the stuff I took out. No charge. Spectacular service.
You do really good reviews and comparisons on all your videos. Personally I am a Victorinox guy, but I have several friends who swear by Benchmade. Both are quality manufacturers, you really can't go wrong either way.
I also own the hunter pro m alox and they have slimmed down the design and they have a removable pocket clip that doesn’t get in the way while gripping the knife
I’m a Victorinox guy as I live in Switzerland (maybe some sort of patriotism xD) and even you prefer the Benchmade knife more than the Hunter pro I recommend you, and anyone else reading this comment, having a SAK as a back-up knife with you. When I’m somewhere in the woods I always carry my Victorinox Trekker with me as it has so many additional functions (in total 12 for the civilian and 10 for the army version) compared to a proper Benchmade, Spyderco, Zero Tolerance etc.
As far as Benchmade customer service, I have never had a huge issue with a knife. I severely bent the pocket clip on my Contego and I couldn't fix it to where it was usable. I contacted Benchmade, they sent out a brand new pocket clip and screws, no questions asked, no charge. Not a major issue, so I am not sure how they may handle something like that, but for my small issue, it was really good.
I am definitely a Benchmade fan boy. They were one of the first more expensive knives I ever purchased and I've never been let down by one. I've had a Benchmade in some form or another in my pocket everyday for about 4 years now and with the experiences I have had with them, I'll be purchasing more. My next one will be the Crooked River and soon after that I'll be adding a 940 Osbourne to the rotation. The 940 is a great option if you need to carry a smaller blade or if yo u don't feel like carrying a big knife that day.
Today I got two Victorinox Hunter Pro, one orange rubbery handle and the other wooden just like your one and it has a nice sheath. The latter one was exactly twice pricy. Just love them ...
Victorinox has excellent customer service. Sent them an email and I had a reply within 4 hrs. Then the next day I got a follow up email from them wanting to know if my problem was resolved.
@@zxcbfadbnatrn i agree with the moraknives they are really good! I once had have an opinel knife, the fixation-system of the blade was nit good at all
Victorinox has a very good customer service. I broke off my blade and over the years some elements of my Armyknive were very dizzy. Actually I only wanted a new blade, they have completely overhauled the entire knife. All worn parts were replaced. They have replaced missing tweezers and toothpicks and made new handles on it. And now the best it was for completely free, not a cent. I am very excited about Viktorinox would buy one again !!! Greetings from Germany Steven
I prefer a knife that has screws instead of rivets that keeps the scales to the tang,at least you can take these knives apart and oil the bearings. I’ve heard some victorinox owners complain about blade wiggle after a wile.
My experience with Victorinox customer service is you can send them a 20-year-old SAK with a broken blade and chipped scales and they repair everything like new, no questions asked, for five dollars. On the other hand Benchmade took multiple emails, eight(!) phone calls, and three months to send me some replacement screws for the clip on my 940. Am I the only one Benchmade ever treated like that? Maybe. Am I going to give them more business? No.
For my eyes the Victorinox Hunter Pro just looks perfect! But yes as a Swiss I grew up with those knifes! For me Victorinox all the time - no question about it! 🤣
Idk about regular lockbacks but ik the cold steels verson, the Tri-ad lock, is better than all locking mechanism, its a back lock with a pin on the blade that absorbes alot of force, look it up for more detail, “tri-ad lock”
Well thought out and presented comparison. Thanks, Tim, for all of the information. As an aside, sort of off topic for this comparison but about customer service, I've interacted with Spyderco. I emailed them a simple question about which pivot pin was stronger between 2 of their knives. They emailed back that they wouldn't answer because that was "proprietary information". I emailed back that I didn't want specs, just which was stronger, because I wanted to take one hunting as a backup. They didn't even respond to my 2nd email.
The Victorinox is also avaliable with a shockproof plastic handle or with alloy handle. I perfer the walnut version like shown, just love the design of the knife, also like the drop point blade. In open position, it looks and feels more like a fixed blade knive then like a folder - and in closed position, it has no edges. Imo a perfect Design. Just listen to that "clokk" when the blde snaps in the grip, when You close the knife. 440C? Is tat prooved? I would be really surprised if they don't use any "own" steele. P.s. The material of the seth is the same as the Tarpaulin on swiss army trucks. So it's a very tough and durable material.
Very nice video.I haven't dealt with customer service with either company which is a good thing.I own products from both companies and haven't had a failure.
Joel Ohms You can always send your Benchmade in to have it tuned, sharpened, and I believe they slap a new pocket clip on it if you want, but don't quote me on that. They don't even require you to include $5 for return shipping anymore.
Little help please. I own a Victorinox Hunter Pro with wooden handle. The problem is when I open the blade, and apply some force in the same direction of resistance you would get when you cut something and then go the opposite direction, there is a tiny tiny bit of wobble. I can't see it with my eyes (because it really is tiny) but with the knife held in my hand, I can feel that something has moved. Just wondering if that is normal.
Both crazy expensive for what they are and what others companies offer for the every day guy or gal . I do like the simplicity of the Victorinox less things to go wrong .
Mike Boone You get what you pay for. I understand not everyone wants to or can spend $150-$200 on a pocket knife, but at least in my opinion, the quality is there with Benchmade. I can't speak for Victorinox, I don't own there stuff, but I know my Benchmade's aren't going to fail me when I need them. I used to buy the $50 range Kershaws and similar brands, I got tired of replacing them. Chunks being taken out of the steel during takes where is shouldn't happen, large amounts of blade play, locks failing, etc. I bit the bullet and invested in a more expensive knife and in my experience, buy once cry once applied. I don't know what kind of knives you like, but if you find yourself in that situation, do some research, find a reputable company that has a knife that excites you, and pull the trigger on it if you are able. If it doesn't live up to your expectations, you can always sell it off or trade it, if it's a quality knife from a reputable manufacturer. Then again, I'm just some guy in a TH-cam comment section and my opinion means jack, but that's just my two cents.
Your comments are spot on, but after collecting will 200 knives over my In 74 years . I have to be honest never as yet spent over $75.00 bucks for knife they have all been used for years not one has ever failed . When saying failed I mean no broken tips no chips or dings in the blades and that is with both fixed and folding knives. But I am not a fan of folding knives especially the ones with lots of moving parts . I am a fixed blade guy, you take care as for you being nobody not true young man you and I are the heart of what makes this you tube work for every one, with out us there would be JACK as you say . I never go any where with out a fixed blade and my little Schrade my grand dad bought me in the 50's Take care stay honest as you are and you'll be fine .HAPPY TRAILS.
Mike Boone Well, that's a whole lot of experience and I'm glad you haven't had big failures with knives. It's a crappy feeling, you feel betrayed. That is very true, we are all consumers and many of us are very passionate about these topics. I've been behind the scenes on the other side of TH-cam as well and I'll say the guys who are putting content out regularly work hard to do so. I carry a folder for everyday stuff, I carry a small fixed blade as a defensive knife. If I need to pry on something or I encounter a task that could damage my knife, I always have a Leatherman on me. It has saved my bacon a few times. I appreciate the kind words sir, you have a good one.
Will do, sounds a lot like were on the same page as to carry . I think your failures just guessing are with folders my self there great for the little things like cleaning your nails although I have cleaned fish skinned deer and many bother things with my little schrade pocket knife /I di carry a Browning lock back like to the buck 110 I bought in the late 60s I believe, could be wrong on the time frame long time ago it is like brand new it has gone on all trips since I got it . HAPPY TRAILS . ps NOT TO MANY MOVEING PARTS THERE IN THE LOCL BACK.
Imagine living in Canada knowing that you can no longer have any of these knives forever. The only thing we will have are TH-cam videos this sucks. Costing me a fortune buying every quality knife all at once before stocks run out
Yup. They banned importation of all assisted opening folder knives last year 2018. Any knife that can be opened with one hand is no longer allowed to be imported into Canada and a lot of Canadians are going to wake up this spring to depleted stocks which will no longer be replenished for folding knives. Also USA and European manufacturers will no longer take a chance shipping knives to Canada in case they get seized by the border patrol people. Whatever is left better get it while you can if you live in Canada
Victorinox has amazing customer service, you can use a knife for 30 years and wear it out and they'll still send you a new one or replace the worn out parts which ever they determine once they inspect it.
The crooked river takes this from a mile away. Bottom line. You get what you pay for. Comparing victorinox to benchmade is like comparing dollar general to target.
Neither of those knives are woods knives, or hunting knives.... Folders suck for gutting and skinning because they get filled with hair, blood, meat etc, and they're a pain in the ass to clean out. Folders also suck for woods blades because they're not strong enough. So for those roles I wouldnt choose either one. If i were to EDC one of these knives i'd go with the Benchmade, mostly because im not a folding knife sheath guy. I'm sure the Victorinox would work just fine too and its half the price.
@@merlynquasar6214 Saying that one steel does x amount of cuts is kinda nonsensical. It comes down to heat treatment,steel quality, edge geometry and other factors. 440c/1.4125 is a time-proofen material for knifes with excellent wear resistance and hardness. If it was worked the right way of course, but same can be said for every steel.
You can get the black version of the victorinox for about 30 dollars less ... at around a third of the price, I can't believe you can recommend the other one.
Victorinox has legendary customer service
I have no experience with Benchmade. Victorinox has a great Service here in Germany. Solved every problem I ever had quick. Grüße!
Alex Murphy Bist Du irgendwie auf Kleber Junge??? Translate and take your pills!!
Wanderer 80 Ich verstehe nicht, warum die Straftat
The victorinox appeals to me more simply because of the price range. Thanks for the video.
They have a lifetime warranty I think. I sent in a knife with broken scissors. I took out the tweezers and tooth pick and tiny screwdriver. They returned the knife with new scissors and totally cleaned the knife. The also replaced all the stuff I took out. No charge. Spectacular service.
You do really good reviews and comparisons on all your videos. Personally I am a Victorinox guy, but I have several friends who swear by Benchmade. Both are quality manufacturers, you really can't go wrong either way.
i think the bench made one looks awesome and would be excited to pull it out every time
I also own the hunter pro m alox and they have slimmed down the design and they have a removable pocket clip that doesn’t get in the way while gripping the knife
I’m a Victorinox guy
as I live in Switzerland (maybe some sort of patriotism xD) and even you prefer
the Benchmade knife more than the Hunter pro I recommend you, and anyone else reading
this comment, having a SAK as a back-up knife with you. When I’m somewhere in
the woods I always carry my Victorinox Trekker with me as it has so many
additional functions (in total 12 for the civilian and 10 for the army version)
compared to a proper Benchmade, Spyderco, Zero Tolerance etc.
Really like the Hunter PRO
As far as Benchmade customer service, I have never had a huge issue with a knife. I severely bent the pocket clip on my Contego and I couldn't fix it to where it was usable. I contacted Benchmade, they sent out a brand new pocket clip and screws, no questions asked, no charge. Not a major issue, so I am not sure how they may handle something like that, but for my small issue, it was really good.
I have my own collections from my childhood & it's not small I'm owner of VICTORINOX Hunter Pro & it's perfect for me .
Thanks for actually taking a stand and picking one. Nothing's worse than a head to head with no winner.
Ha - thanks!
I am definitely a Benchmade fan boy. They were one of the first more expensive knives I ever purchased and I've never been let down by one. I've had a Benchmade in some form or another in my pocket everyday for about 4 years now and with the experiences I have had with them, I'll be purchasing more. My next one will be the Crooked River and soon after that I'll be adding a 940 Osbourne to the rotation. The 940 is a great option if you need to carry a smaller blade or if yo u don't feel like carrying a big knife that day.
Today I got two Victorinox Hunter Pro, one orange rubbery handle and the other wooden just like your one and it has a nice sheath. The latter one was exactly twice pricy. Just love them ...
Victorinox has excellent customer service. Sent them an email and I had a reply within 4 hrs. Then the next day I got a follow up email from them wanting to know if my problem was resolved.
very fair test both seem to be great knives and i will be looking to purchase one of them
There is nothing to compare, swiss knives are simply the best on earth. The same thing is about the watches.
Best knifes with biggest quality/price are moraknive, victorinox, opinel
@@zxcbfadbnatrn i agree with the moraknives they are really good! I once had have an opinel knife, the fixation-system of the blade was nit good at all
@@mosermesser788 my opinel had lot of things and never get break. I also put a mora blade in one opinel to have a mora folder and it works very well
Love SMKW. Been buying knives from them for over 20 years
Both Knives look good. I just got my SMKW catalog yesterday!
First thing I do is remove the pocket clip; I hate the way they feel in my hand. Cool knives and video.
I'm not a pocket clip fan, I would drop the knife down into my pocket so the Victorinox clipless handle would not bother me in the least
Great vid. Well done. I have the Hunter Pro. Not anything I don’t like about this one.... liked your comparisons...
Both knives look really nice but I'm big fan of Benchmade😀
Love the wooden-like scales of Hunter Pro
Victorinox 4 ever !
My two favorite knife brands and knife store! Good vid!
Victorinox has a very good customer service. I broke off my blade and over the years some elements of my Armyknive were very dizzy. Actually I only wanted a new blade, they have completely overhauled the entire knife. All worn parts were replaced. They have replaced missing tweezers and toothpicks and made new handles on it. And now the best it was for completely free, not a cent. I am very excited about Viktorinox would buy one again !!! Greetings from Germany Steven
Thanks for watching and greetings back from New Hampshire in the U.S.
Benchmade Customerservice is amazing. They always fix any problems
Both great knives but that Benchmade is just beautiful. Jut put an order for a Crooked River.
I swear by benchmade, both look great just preference and another great video
I prefer a knife that has screws instead of rivets that keeps the scales to the tang,at least you can take these knives apart and oil the bearings. I’ve heard some victorinox owners complain about blade wiggle after a wile.
Benchmade for me they both look nice. Nice review Tim. smkw rocks!
Thanks for watching - I appreciate it!
My experience with Victorinox customer service is you can send them a 20-year-old SAK with a broken blade and chipped scales and they repair everything like new, no questions asked, for five dollars. On the other hand Benchmade took multiple emails, eight(!) phone calls, and three months to send me some replacement screws for the clip on my 940. Am I the only one Benchmade ever treated like that? Maybe. Am I going to give them more business? No.
For my eyes the Victorinox Hunter Pro just looks perfect! But yes as a Swiss I grew up with those knifes! For me Victorinox all the time - no question about it! 🤣
Idk about regular lockbacks but ik the cold steels verson, the Tri-ad lock, is better than all locking mechanism, its a back lock with a pin on the blade that absorbes alot of force, look it up for more detail, “tri-ad lock”
Love the V. Hunter. Carry it every day (in my bag mostly). The handle feels perfect to me.
Well thought out and presented comparison. Thanks, Tim, for all of the information.
As an aside, sort of off topic for this comparison but about customer service, I've interacted with Spyderco. I emailed them a simple question about which pivot pin was stronger between 2 of their knives. They emailed back that they wouldn't answer because that was "proprietary information". I emailed back that I didn't want specs, just which was stronger, because I wanted to take one hunting as a backup. They didn't even respond to my 2nd email.
The Victorinox is also avaliable with a shockproof plastic handle or with alloy handle.
I perfer the walnut version like shown, just love the design of the knife, also like the drop point blade.
In open position, it looks and feels more like a fixed blade knive then like a folder - and in closed position, it has no edges.
Imo a perfect Design. Just listen to that "clokk" when the blde snaps in the grip, when You close the knife.
440C? Is tat prooved? I would be really surprised if they don't use any "own" steele.
P.s. The material of the seth is the same as the Tarpaulin on swiss army trucks.
So it's a very tough and durable material.
Vic is avaliable also in alox version.
Steel i think is pretty much the same of 420
Victornox over Benchmade all day but cold steel, Spyderco, Gerber and Buck 110 give it a run for its money.
Very nice video.I haven't dealt with customer service with either company which is a good thing.I own products from both companies and haven't had a failure.
Joel Ohms You can always send your Benchmade in to have it tuned, sharpened, and I believe they slap a new pocket clip on it if you want, but don't quote me on that. They don't even require you to include $5 for return shipping anymore.
whiskeydrinker24 nice to know,thank you for the information.
Joel Ohms No problem!
Little help please.
I own a Victorinox Hunter Pro with wooden handle. The problem is when I open the blade, and apply some force in the same direction of resistance you would get when you cut something and then go the opposite direction, there is a tiny tiny bit of wobble. I can't see it with my eyes (because it really is tiny) but with the knife held in my hand, I can feel that something has moved. Just wondering if that is normal.
シーナイトSeaKnight I would have to see it in person to really give you any helpful thoughts.
Alright. I don't really think that's possible considering we're in different countries, but thanks though.
For the woods = Hunter Pro
For everything else = Crooked River
Yes it's a grind question
I am glad to double the time for saving money to get a crooked river.
Both crazy expensive for what they are and what others companies offer for the every day guy or gal . I do like the simplicity of the Victorinox less things to go wrong .
Mike Boone You get what you pay for. I understand not everyone wants to or can spend $150-$200 on a pocket knife, but at least in my opinion, the quality is there with Benchmade. I can't speak for Victorinox, I don't own there stuff, but I know my Benchmade's aren't going to fail me when I need them. I used to buy the $50 range Kershaws and similar brands, I got tired of replacing them. Chunks being taken out of the steel during takes where is shouldn't happen, large amounts of blade play, locks failing, etc. I bit the bullet and invested in a more expensive knife and in my experience, buy once cry once applied. I don't know what kind of knives you like, but if you find yourself in that situation, do some research, find a reputable company that has a knife that excites you, and pull the trigger on it if you are able. If it doesn't live up to your expectations, you can always sell it off or trade it, if it's a quality knife from a reputable manufacturer. Then again, I'm just some guy in a TH-cam comment section and my opinion means jack, but that's just my two cents.
Your comments are spot on, but after collecting will 200 knives over my In 74 years . I have to be honest never as yet spent over $75.00 bucks for knife they have all been used for years not one has ever failed . When saying failed I mean no broken tips no chips or dings in the blades and that is with both fixed and folding knives. But I am not a fan of folding knives especially the ones with lots of moving parts . I am a fixed blade guy, you take care as for you being nobody not true young man you and I are the heart of what makes this you tube work for every one, with out us there would be JACK as you say . I never go any where with out a fixed blade and my little Schrade my grand dad bought me in the 50's Take care stay honest as you are and you'll be fine .HAPPY TRAILS.
Mike Boone Well, that's a whole lot of experience and I'm glad you haven't had big failures with knives. It's a crappy feeling, you feel betrayed. That is very true, we are all consumers and many of us are very passionate about these topics. I've been behind the scenes on the other side of TH-cam as well and I'll say the guys who are putting content out regularly work hard to do so. I carry a folder for everyday stuff, I carry a small fixed blade as a defensive knife. If I need to pry on something or I encounter a task that could damage my knife, I always have a Leatherman on me. It has saved my bacon a few times. I appreciate the kind words sir, you have a good one.
Will do, sounds a lot like were on the same page as to carry . I think your failures just guessing are with folders my self there great for the little things like cleaning your nails although I have cleaned fish skinned deer and many bother things with my little schrade pocket knife /I di carry a Browning lock back like to the buck 110 I bought in the late 60s I believe, could be wrong on the time frame long time ago it is like brand new it has gone on all trips since I got it . HAPPY TRAILS . ps NOT TO MANY MOVEING PARTS THERE IN THE LOCL BACK.
Bench made always laser sharpens their knives for free.
No matter what’s on this video u gotta go with the benchmade but that’s just me bald people United ✌️
Io ho il victorinox hunter pro alloy.
Buon coltello, nulla di eccezionale ma un buon coltello
Con quali guancette?
$100.00 for 440C is a bit excessive. That being said, $200 for a Benchmade is way out there as well. Most of us can’t justify that expense.
czredhead victorinox hunter pro in rubber handles is available for 60 dollars
And yet people spend nearly a grand on stupid cell phones... so...
Unfortunately it is 420. Not 440.
I saw that in an other video in wich protagonist ask that to vic company and they reply it is 420.
Imagine living in Canada knowing that you can no longer have any of these knives forever. The only thing we will have are TH-cam videos this sucks.
Costing me a fortune buying every quality knife all at once before stocks run out
Yup. They banned importation of all assisted opening folder knives last year 2018. Any knife that can be opened with one hand is no longer allowed to be imported into Canada and a lot of Canadians are going to wake up this spring to depleted stocks which will no longer be replenished for folding knives. Also USA and European manufacturers will no longer take a chance shipping knives to Canada in case they get seized by the border patrol people. Whatever is left better get it while you can if you live in Canada
The hunter comes with different handle materials too
victorinox hunter pro with rubber handles is just 60 dollars in price.worth that money I guess
Steel is 420 in victorinox
for price ,we can see banchmade range with spyderco ! i think spyderco is much better !
I don't want anything crooked in my pocket,let alone a river.
Victorinox has amazing customer service, you can use a knife for 30 years and wear it out and they'll still send you a new one or replace the worn out parts which ever they determine once they inspect it.
❤️ VICTORINOX famous and proven worldwide not only a US brand.
The crooked river takes this from a mile away. Bottom line. You get what you pay for. Comparing victorinox to benchmade is like comparing dollar general to target.
No
The Hunter Pro appears to not have liners. For potential 'hard use' situations. The lack of liners causes me concern about durability. JMO.
the victorinox is a cheap 440 (max $40 value) knife were you pay about $100 for the victorinox logo .
I had the Hunter Pro for a couple of years. It sucked. Blade play everywhere. I will be buying the Benchmade.
Gerber Gator 154cm 54$..time proven !
154cm?
@@lucianodaros surprised nobody answered you in two years lol. 154CM is a type of steel, that's one of the better ones
Neither of those knives are woods knives, or hunting knives.... Folders suck for gutting and skinning because they get filled with hair, blood, meat etc, and they're a pain in the ass to clean out. Folders also suck for woods blades because they're not strong enough. So for those roles I wouldnt choose either one. If i were to EDC one of these knives i'd go with the Benchmade, mostly because im not a folding knife sheath guy. I'm sure the Victorinox would work just fine too and its half the price.
I think both are overpriced
The Victorinox Hunter Pro is a 440C steel. No 1 should buy a knife with that steel
Sdicdcsxz Not trying to be a complete asshat here, but are you for real? Do you know about steel types?
Lellobeetle 440c only does 74 rope cuts before dulling and s30v does 200
@@merlynquasar6214 Saying that one steel does x amount of cuts is kinda nonsensical. It comes down to heat treatment,steel quality, edge geometry and other factors. 440c/1.4125 is a time-proofen material for knifes with excellent wear resistance and hardness. If it was worked the right way of course, but same can be said for every steel.
You can get the black version of the victorinox for about 30 dollars less ... at around a third of the price, I can't believe you can recommend the other one.
I was the 250ith view it feels early