I got a planer gauge in a box of tooling that I bought at an auction but never had a clue what it was used for or how to use it. Thanks for enlightening me.
Interesting that I was using it the same way you described in woodworking. Now that I am trying to remember what I was taught as an almost juvenile delinquent, from my retired neighbor, a former machinist.. I wish I had gone to a different school and learned machining.. but retired now I still can try. Thank you for teaching.
I am retired but have a hobby shop. I have a Lufkin planer gage with a complete set of attachments still in the original box. It even has a scribe that allows it to be used as a layout tool. I think I bought it from a retiring second generation toolmaker.
Still using my Grandfathers 4" M&W Square he had with him when he jumped ship (Ships Engineer) and Illegally stayed in Australia for 40 years until he decided to join 😁Still have a few my Dad's Instrument Tech bench tools as well that get used from time to time. Great way to remember them.
Let's be real, we claim we enjoy using our Dad's and grandpa's stuff but it's just a classy way to be cheap ;) just having fun obviously. It's wonderful getting to use these tools and enjoy our memories.
I have a pristine 995A in my box. Planers were a big deal in the Navy Yards in the 70's. We ran them every day, even had a Tru-Trace on a big GA Gray for doing contour work. These things have some layout capability as well. As you said; they have their uses.
Planers also had an important role at machining parts for railway's shifters and turnout systems. Long features with relatively simple geometries on heavy weight components. You could get the depth of cuts about 50mm /2" and 1mm/0.04" steps as your daily routine... Stroke of the unit was nearly as long as the table ...
Thanks for the vid. I am a hobby machinist, and trying to learn about michining. I have a small mill/drill and a 9" South Bend lathe. I picked up a couple of these at tag sales and wasn't sure how to use them.
Could you have used the bar to put into the hole instead of making a 0.620 rod. Then calculate where the top of the hole is from the bed and use any size bar that fits in the hole?
@@2wheelnthusiast88My apologies, I could have phrased my comment better. I tried to convey to the viewers that there is an alternative to using a gauge pin if you don't have one, or are reluctant to use one. Using the planer gauge pin ensures that the pin stays level with the bed of the machine and is easily inserted and removed from the part hole. Fitting a gauge pin with such a short engagement length compared to its diameter can be an issue. If the hole is too small by a few tenths, then the pin has to be driven in & with difficulty pulled out. If the hole is large by a few tenths then the pin will droop making a reference difficult to establish. Unless the part hole has a tight tolerance, perhaps the standard setup using the planer gauge pin may suit your needs.
Sorry if I misunderstood something here, but this is what you use the Planer Gauge on the mill for (which looks very useful), but what did they use it for on a planer?
if they were cutting out a slot on a planer they would use the planer gauge to measure the width/height of the slot and take it to the height gauge to measure it
You would still have to figure out the size you need - at that point it takes 10 seconds to get the block, or set up the planer gauge, so it doesn’t really matter. Though it would keep your gauge blocks cleaner/damage free.
I am a hobbyist machinist. I purchased mine for similar setup work, transferring known dimensions as he described, etc. There other methods and arguably better methods. As a hobbyist, my tooling is still limited, and I don't own a full set of gauge or Jo blocks. An alternative method that I employ is adjustable parallels. My adjustable parallel sets are thin, and the planer gauge is much wider, gaining more more contact surface purchase to ensure perpenduclarity. The machinist has many methods available to him to accomplish the same task. Some are always arguably better, but different options increase my capacity. I was a career machine shop maintenance technician, but never trained or very much practiced at actual machining. My retirement hobby is resurrecting and using vintage industrial manual machine tools, to teach myself manual machining skills. My career was primarily CNC. I enjoy learning, understanding, and "mastering" older and antiquated methods. Modern methods are superior in many ways, but I am fascinated with old and still viable methods. My wife allowed me to erect a second 4600sf shop building for my hobby pleasure, allowing me to keep the old shop for expanding exclusive woodshop. I am filling up my space with vintage industrial machine tools. Much of my current machine work is making and repairing parts for my vintage restorations. I am leaving machining by this method. I brought home an Elliott and a Pacemaker lathe this past summer. These machines outsized my current 3 phase capacity, which has me partway through building a 15HP rotary phase converter. Both of those machines could be making chips now, if my power issue was resolved. I appreciate his explanation. I entered the machine shop trade in 1982, already well into NC and CNC. I don't recall ever seeing a planer gauge in our shop of well over 100 employees in the machine shop. I find that the planer gauge is still viable, but I don't currently envision using it as originally purposed.
thats funny as hell but on a lighter note I heard they're still popular with gunsmiths because they can make a very flat surface,better than a mill can
Great video! I have an old Lufkin planer guage. I never set up or operated a planer, but it comes in handy for many other uses in the shop!
I got a planer gauge in a box of tooling that I bought at an auction but never had a clue what it was used for or how to use it. Thanks for enlightening me.
Interesting that I was using it the same way you described in woodworking. Now that I am trying to remember what I was taught as an almost juvenile delinquent, from my retired neighbor, a former machinist.. I wish I had gone to a different school and learned machining.. but retired now I still can try. Thank you for teaching.
I am retired but have a hobby shop. I have a Lufkin planer gage with a complete set of attachments still in the original box. It even has a scribe that allows it to be used as a layout tool. I think I bought it from a retiring second generation toolmaker.
I have one of these which belonged to my wife's grandfather. I always wondered what it was for. Thank you.
I have one but have never used it. Your example there is a great way to use it though, I can think of a few ways I should use mine now. Thanks.
I have a couple of them, one is a Luftkin same colour as yours. I use them on the Mill for setting up. Very handy tool.
can see many uses for this !
on my horizontal mill (ancient)
got to love old machines & tools
and there stories
Still using my Grandfathers 4" M&W Square he had with him when he jumped ship (Ships Engineer) and Illegally stayed in Australia for 40 years until he decided to join 😁Still have a few my Dad's Instrument Tech bench tools as well that get used from time to time. Great way to remember them.
Let's be real, we claim we enjoy using our Dad's and grandpa's stuff but it's just a classy way to be cheap ;) just having fun obviously. It's wonderful getting to use these tools and enjoy our memories.
I have a pristine 995A in my box. Planers were a big deal in the Navy Yards in the 70's. We ran them every day, even had a Tru-Trace on a big GA Gray for doing contour work. These things have some layout capability as well. As you said; they have their uses.
Planers also had an important role at machining parts for railway's shifters and turnout systems. Long features with relatively simple geometries on heavy weight components. You could get the depth of cuts about 50mm /2" and 1mm/0.04" steps as your daily routine... Stroke of the unit was nearly as long as the table ...
Phil as you put out knowledge you will grow the channel and that will get you more cups of coffee.
It's basically used in place of Jo blocks.
Thanks for the vid. I am a hobby machinist, and trying to learn about michining. I have a small mill/drill and a 9" South Bend lathe. I picked up a couple of these at tag sales and wasn't sure how to use them.
Could you have used the bar to put into the hole instead of making a 0.620 rod. Then calculate where the top of the hole is from the bed and use any size bar that fits in the hole?
He’s using a gage pin in the hole
@@2wheelnthusiast88My apologies, I could have phrased my comment better.
I tried to convey to the viewers that there is an alternative to using a gauge pin if you don't have one, or are reluctant to use one.
Using the planer gauge pin ensures that the pin stays level with the bed of the machine and is easily inserted and removed from the part hole.
Fitting a gauge pin with such a short engagement length compared to its diameter can be an issue. If the hole is too small by a few tenths, then the pin has to be driven in & with difficulty pulled out. If the hole is large by a few tenths then the pin will droop making a reference difficult to establish. Unless the part hole has a tight tolerance, perhaps the standard setup using the planer gauge pin may suit your needs.
Been looking for one myself.
Very useful information…thank you so much…Paul
Sorry if I misunderstood something here, but this is what you use the Planer Gauge on the mill for (which looks very useful), but what did they use it for on a planer?
if they were cutting out a slot on a planer they would use the planer gauge to measure the width/height of the slot and take it to the height gauge to measure it
Today I made some auger shafts and sleeves similar to this with holes 90 degrees from each other. I just used the 4th axis on the mill, lol
Mine's a very nice Helios in wood box with all accessories; paid $37 a dozen years ago...
It took me a week to make mine in shop class but all I use it for now is setting the tool height on my dinky-doink lathe
For this purpose wouldn’t it be just as easy if not faster to just use gage blocks to get that height?
You would still have to figure out the size you need - at that point it takes 10 seconds to get the block, or set up the planer gauge, so it doesn’t really matter.
Though it would keep your gauge blocks cleaner/damage free.
I am a hobbyist machinist. I purchased mine for similar setup work, transferring known dimensions as he described, etc. There other methods and arguably better methods. As a hobbyist, my tooling is still limited, and I don't own a full set of gauge or Jo blocks. An alternative method that I employ is adjustable parallels. My adjustable parallel sets are thin, and the planer gauge is much wider, gaining more more contact surface purchase to ensure perpenduclarity.
The machinist has many methods available to him to accomplish the same task. Some are always arguably better, but different options increase my capacity.
I was a career machine shop maintenance technician, but never trained or very much practiced at actual machining. My retirement hobby is resurrecting and using vintage industrial manual machine tools, to teach myself manual machining skills. My career was primarily CNC. I enjoy learning, understanding, and "mastering" older and antiquated methods. Modern methods are superior in many ways, but I am fascinated with old and still viable methods. My wife allowed me to erect a second 4600sf shop building for my hobby pleasure, allowing me to keep the old shop for expanding exclusive woodshop. I am filling up my space with vintage industrial machine tools. Much of my current machine work is making and repairing parts for my vintage restorations. I am leaving machining by this method. I brought home an Elliott and a Pacemaker lathe this past summer. These machines outsized my current 3 phase capacity, which has me partway through building a 15HP rotary phase converter. Both of those machines could be making chips now, if my power issue was resolved.
I appreciate his explanation. I entered the machine shop trade in 1982, already well into NC and CNC. I don't recall ever seeing a planer gauge in our shop of well over 100 employees in the machine shop. I find that the planer gauge is still viable, but I don't currently envision using it as originally purposed.
I spent 50 years as a tool and diemaker and never had the need for one, ever.
Congrats. Thanks for sharing and adding so much to the discussion. Any other tools that you never used that we need to know about?
Nice video.
Thanks for sharing. 👍🇺🇸👍
You can make anything you want with a shaper except money
thats funny as hell but on a lighter note I heard they're still popular with gunsmiths because they can make a very flat surface,better than a mill can
Dunno, seen a few things done in a shaper that bring in quite a bit of money.
Mostly keyways for shafts, but still.
Have a large and small really helpful cool tool
Thanks for sharing 👍
So after half of video still no explanation of how to use .CLICK BAIT,,,
Watch it again, Mr. Zero Content. I'm embarrassed for you.
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