The Family That Owns New Brunswick: The House of Irving
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- If you ask just about anyone in New Brunswick about the Irving family, you're likely to get a strong response one way or the other. But beyond the province, not many people have heard of the family.
The Irvings own so much of New Brunswick, whether it be land, industries, or politicians, that the entire province has been called a company town. They own Irving Oil, the largest oil refinery in the country, in Saint John, New Brunswick, and operate one of the province's most prolific logging operations.
So who are the Irvings? Starting from humble beginnings in the early 20th century, the Irving family has built up an expansive empire that has ruled the province for decades. But the question remains, has their dominance been good for the people of New Brunswick?
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For those not from NB wondering about this, think Monty Burns.
For anyone not from NB, NB is like the asshole of North America, perhaps the world
Damn!
i used to pump gas at the Champlain heights Irving and this old guy asked me "How's business?" "Oh alright I guess." I think I shook his hand or something like that, it was K.C.
He was driving a Ford LTD.
THIS is why I love the internet. You would never see something like this on cbc or ctv. Awesome video man.
Side note: the gas stations do have clean bathrooms tho
they own CBC. radio too
@@Lugh-gv6jx
CBC is a Crown Corporation. They don’t own CBC. They may have political influence on the board, through advertisement dollars, philanthropic affiliations, etc. but they do not OWN the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Well, not yet anyway. If Poilievre gets elected, that may change, as he is promising to defund the CBC… which means selling off key assets and/ or funding through advertising… which means bending to the will of corporate dollars.
@Cr1me-wavE you obviously are talking out of your ass, I have never been to a dirty bathroom in a Irving station
as an NBer, THANK YOU for covering this! I've seen it shared in a lot of FB groups and subreddits, most folks have no idea about the sheer size of the Irving's influence, especially on our current provincial premier.
They logged all the land behind where i live, utterly destroyed the land, not a tree left standing and zero replanting. They are demons.
Lol illegal to regular homeowners but not the rich 😂
So someone isn’t allowed to use their land for logging just because you live nearby ?
@@Skinhound there is a big difference between one of my neighbors working his woodlot and billionaire oligarchs coming in and taking every single stick for a hundred square km not replanting a single tree and leaving a wasteland behind. It's your prerogative if you want to boot lick robber barons but don't expect me to do the same
@@SkinhoundMost of what they cut is Crown land...
They are cutting government land which is given to them for almost nothing.
They plant trees paid by the province. They plant only spruces. They spray more chemicals to kill other trees and insects. More chemicals than Alberta and Quebec where they have 20 times the woodland.
In my opinion, the neurological problems experienced by some in southern NB. Many of them have died from this disease being investigated. This year Irving sprayed less probably because of this. I saw fireflies for the first time in 30 years. Deers are found dead because of the pesticides they spray on trees.
Irving didn't clean a sawmill in Saint John. It polluted the Bay of Fundy. CBC did a documentary. It aired once on TV.
The Bahamas papers showed Irving paid 150 million in lawyer fees to make a trust changed there so they could avoid taxes in canada.
So don't tell me "they got the right to cut in their land" because they don't care about their land or people. They abuse and use all.
@@Skinhound They should atleast have the decency to clean it up
Thanks! I knew Irving was garbage but didn't realize just how bad.
doesn't matter how rich they are in the end , they will still go to a grave the same size as anyone else, and they will take nothing with them~ but they will be judged for their good deeds or not~
@@gayle4795 They created this bullshit system 2000 years ago to make you believe your shitty live has meaning. Wake up, you suffer for nothing so they can laugh in your face.
Canada is run by a few families, monopolies in a lot of industries and enough political power to influence the lives of millions
shows the character of a IRVING to ex-communicate their son Ken after self-harm/attempt suicide. ruthless
I was working for a company as an engineer and the NB government was paying 1.2 million for an embankment/road repair. It made little sense, as there was only like 1 house on this isolated, rural road.
Near the end of the project, no sooner than the asphalt had been laid, orange Irving pickups began showing up.
I cannot say forsure, but I'd imagine the province spent the 1.2 million making the repairs just so Irving could come and log the land.
Gee, I remember land in the Red Head area that was proposed for a new refinery that never happened, they didn't waste any time logging that proposed site.
There spraying glyphosate around the turtle creek reservoir poisoned me and now I have the mysterious brain disease, that’s what Irving does to New Brunswickers!!! #Glyphogate #glyphosate
And the Higgs closed the investigation in this disease.
The Spraying of Glysophate on his timber land needs to stop
OUR timber land, not Irvings.
@@BingBingersonis it yours if he owns it
Since moving to the Maritimes two years ago it became quite apparent very quickly that the Maritimes are not only a neglected part of Canada ut one ruled by a handful of families. Forming their own Maritime Mafia.
And very few speak up as they have jobs with these families. Which in and of itself is very sad.
These families have such a choke hold on the provinces and I don't see it changing anytime soon. And the amount of natural destruction they cause to the environment here, well, simply appalling. The clear cutting alone is a catastrophe. Never made sense to me to cut down decades old forests, replacing them with yearlings which will not have a positive effect on the environment for decades to replace the harvested trees.
Is your house made of wood?
Because if it is, that's the sensible part. 🇨🇦
If you live in a cave, I apologize. 🤣
I have seen how much wasted wood there is in the giant, unnecessary single family homes all over suburbs in Canada, and I would rather not pay the Irvings or anyone like them for my lumber.
NB's own Evil Empire.
They don't call it Canada's only "company" province for nothing. I’m sure there are many that would have done more than Irving has done for Saint John and NB if it wasn’t for the Irvings muscling out competition. How on earth could anyone do more than the Irvings have done in a captured state situation in which a family essentially takes over making policy for government and its tax regime just like we saw in Eastern Europe.
Great video that illustrates how Irving is a big fish in a small pond and how this holds back the province's potential!
I am from N.B....THANK for making this video! It is 100% true! And 99.9999% of us NBers hate Irving and Higgs!
Thats really not true at all. LOTS of people support irving as you see here, and I still see support for Higgs, LOTS of suckers have bought into his "oh, you need me to protect the kids from gender issues in schools".
Except that Hiģgs was elected by more than 0.0001% of New Brunswick voters.
Which suggests the opposition to New Brunswick's establishment is dramatic, hyperbolic, & bad at math.
@@kerriwilson7732 Well, your logic is off since its been three and a half years since the election.
However, my comment was deleted and all I said was its certainly not that low.
But lets do a quick list:
1. ten times more mandates than the federal government during covid.
2. His own chief medical officer just quit saying the Premier didn't listen to her.
3. At least three members of his own cabinet have quit the party saying he's a dictator.
4. The province is ACTIVELY fighting against the doctor and those looking for the cause of a mysteriious brain injury
5. Homelessness never started HERE until Higgs, not Trudeau. In Moncton there are multiple buildings that could house EVERY homeless person, higgs has literally done nothing.
6. Forcibly amalgamated rural areas that had NO government to being now cash cows for the local villages they are attached to.
7. Overturned a court ruling and gave mining companies the right to test for minerals on ANY unregistered land.
8. Had to admit that the fiscal success in the province was ALL to do with federal immigration and federal money.
9. Not only rejects Cap and Trade but forces us to pay the carbon tax, AND during covid STOLE our carbon tax rebates AND passed legislation to allow Irvings refinery to pass on its carbon tax to consumers.
10. Refused to change the forestry legislation so that the province made NO extra money during covid when lumber prices skyrocketed.
11. Actually lowered royalties even more last year.
12. Is rapidly privatizing healthcare and never implemented ANY plan to get new doctors or nurses til last year.
13. Personally took over negotiations to keep low paid health workers from making TWO dollars more an hour.
14. Did nothing as nurses fled the province for NS and Quebec because wages and benefits were so much better.
15. Infringed charter rights on at least THREE occasions during covid. Had so many protests here that he had to beg the media to not tell people where he was.
Thats just 'off the top of my head'. Our property tax increased a THOUSAND dollars thanks to Higgs. We MADE a little bit of money off the carbon tax and are now in the process of getting an interest free loan to go totally off grid-before Pollievre kills it.
Its well known rural conservatives will vote conesrvative no matter what. Which is ironic because MOST of Higgs worst legislation has been aimed at his own base.
Oh yeah, our town has TWO bridges out and has for THREE years. Thats how long it takes Higgs to do anyting.
Not sure about Irving, but we don't "all hate" Higgs. Most of his policies are sound. At least compared to other politicians...
@@robo6118 Well, youtube keeps deleting my comments, but I'll just ask what policies you refer to. I've yet to see ONE.
I dont want to speak for you, but his recent support was politically orchestrated. Three years ago he okayed regulations on gender identity in schools. Now an election is comeing and they are worried about the Peoples Alliance and they trot out the "family rights" crap. None of which was constitutional, and virtually ALL of which has been rolled back by the courts, or is in the process of being so now.
So that was clearly 'virtue signalling', so what OTHER policy would you be referring to?
Amazing video with great research. Thanks for shedding a light on Irving's evil ways
We need more reporting of this type! Many provinces have the same issues !
Start taxing the corporations properly, instead of relying on equalization payments to make up for it. These politicians need to be held accountable.
NB premiere was literally an Irving Oil employee his entire life. People actually voted him in knowing it, we are lost here too many people work for a Irving owned company and are scared they will lose their lifestyle if they do anything against Irving's best interest. So many people have come to believe we are better off because of them somehow. They petitioned for there to be a cap on OT requirements, make x wage no OT required then they pay said OT knowing the smaller company's who struggle to compete will take advantage to make themselves look better. devious af.
They killed all of the deer and birds spray in the trees.
They're the reason NB's struggling so much
NB were very lucky to have had Irving for all those years.
@@garytibo lol
Why does Nb pay the most for gas anywhere in Canada?
Believe it or not, gas is sold to every province at the same rate. The difference is the taxes each province imposes on the gas so to get your answer you have to ask the NB government.
Actually it USED to pay one of the cheapest because gas USED to be regulated before Higgs. Quebec still pays higher gas prices, as does PEI and Nova Scotia 'generally', but gas prices depend on local players as well. Some cities have more competition than others. BC pretty sure has MUCH higher prices as well, particularly around Vancouver where there is the transit tax. Northern ontario pays similar prices as well.
For those who don't know, last year Higgs brought in legislation to allow Irving to pass off the federal carbon tax that was designed specifically for refineries, onto us. Even ontario doesn't allow them to do that. And of course the carbon tax is a provincial choice, we could have a cap and trade program where IRving would be paying most of the cost like in Quebec.
Gas is often cheaper at independants and on the east coast where they buy from the Ultramar refinery.
They don't
Same as here in Alberta why don't we have the lowest fuel prices in Canada
@@jeffsutton950 thats 'the market' for you.
This is what irving doesnt want the public to hear. Hope this video continues to gain popularity!
From Nova Scotia, they are pieces of shit.
Sounds like Kenneth found his soul and the guilt of the company weighed on him heavily.
If this is true, he could be the one to right all the wrongs.
Strange how poor New Brunswick is yet they all vote liberal?
Its like a welfare province
I dislike strongly irving
That’s not even the half of it , if you live in NB you know
If any friends from NB see this, please demand action from your local governments one way or another. First it's Irving owning New Brunswick, next it's Rogers owning all of Canada... Something needs to be done.
What exactly would you do?
Westons and Bronfmans say hold my beer..
Lol what's the government gonna do
Take another check from Irving and pretend it is not happening, of course.
Municipal, provincial and federal ineptitude are more to blame than a company that inevitably exploits the desperation caused by their fiscal stupidity. If it wasn’t Irving it would be someone else.
someday we shall be free from the yoke of tyrants
In your dream...business is a corrupts thing and will be there forever.
There were days when going outside that I'd literally taste the air with oil and God knows what else. The stench was putrid when the air blew north or west. If I were the mayor I'd say GET! Then maybe the smaller businesses would come back and flourish.
What else to expect from Irving, even from NB premier Higgs working all his career at Irving so he is badly ''indoctrinated'' to and by Irving way of doing.
They also have the provincial government in their pockets
As a saint johner I can't escape irving they're everywhere omg
interesting video and perspective on the Irvings. I wish they would have also listed the Irving philanthropy in NB as well. akk companies tax advantage of tax loop holes and weak governments. Stalantis and Volkswagen just accomplished the same thing. The list of companies who lobby government for favorable deals is very long.
Man you could make a series about lowkey canadian families and groups that control small ( and large) areas of canada.
I was born and raised here, and it's all true. Our government has been utterly corrupted by them for over half a century, and is now heavily in debt despite having some of the richest and most accessible resources in the country.
Same thing has been happening across Canada for 150 years.
@@alstewart1186 Only a small portion actually, most of it is still utterly uninhabited
@@MrLoobu I'm referring to the siphoning off of Canada's natural resource wealth by a relatively small number of people and corporations.
@@alstewart1186 Oh, well that's the world.
@@MrLoobu Are you one of the Irvings posing as MrLoobu?
KC was a crook
My uncle has a farm just outside of Fredericton and every year when i visit i can see the forest change cause irving logs closer and closer to the property line… i hate them
Corporate welfare at its finest...
Now I understand why they got the contract to build Canada new navy fleet. What I got from this documentary is that IRVING needs a competitor in the game of resources in New Brunswick!!!
So much information, thanks buddy
There are too many monopolies in Canada. They should be broken up. Rogers, Irving’s, Weston’s, etc, etc…. It’s not good for consumers or citizens to have these concentrations of power.
Worst gas ever. Water burns better
Irvings, Thompsons, Bronfmans. All cut from thr same cloth.
Off shore accounts and dirty Russian oil ,what's not to like ,pathetic.
Very informative look behind the curtain!
And now you know why crude oil from Alberta is not welcome in New Brunswick, better to bring it in from Saudi Arabia and Nigeria in big oil tankers.
ya and we pay out our butts for his crap
Cue Empirical March
Imperial March.
Same difference, still imperious and shitty of them to do to NB
All of canada is structured like this to some degree.
Not this bad. Every NB Prime Minister has vacated at their private lodge.
I remember I visited the NB legislature has a kid. The MLA for Saint-Quentin and Kedgwick asked the government to provide some type of financing for the local sawmill. The next day in the news headline Irving had bought it.
Yet Irving receives government funds all the time. The log most of the Crown land for pennies. The government gifts them the tree to plant back. Heck they even partake in the dubbed most generous tax benefit by Canada Taxpayers Association. They received hundreds of thousands of dollars because they once operated a hydro plant. The electricity rates are way lower for commercial operations.
Heck another one for you. Provinces now tax environmental clean ups in gas. Most provinces set it at 2 to 4 cents well Higgs set it at 8 cents in NB. Barely any headlines were made about it. Because the money goes to the companies. We are now paying companies to clean themselves and we pay the most in NB.
I have a friend who works for Irving, he has told me that Irving Oil has already been sold, to a very large petroleum company in France. That this was the reason why the Irving family members are no longer on the board. He also stated that they are waiting to make the announcement to make it official at the Irving’s family’s request.
lol you have no idea what your talking about💀
Irving Oil is not nice. Not nice at all. It’s all a facade.
I was diagnosed with cancer, possibly caused by glyphosate spraying. Just sayin'
I'm from the Maritimes, and I've been wondering forr years why the East Coast had such high rates of cancer. With all of the carcinogens Irving uses, it makes sense now.
Not just NB. I was on wikepedia and they own Cavendish too... So all of PEI basically.
Folks, always, always, always, always, always... FOLLOW THE MONEY! About everything!
I live in Saint John, we've got an intersection here that has a crude oil rail car offloading facility on one side, and a Tim Hortons on the other side, the Tim Hortons pays more property tax than the offloading facility, which is five times the size. They are evil overall, but they put profit over everything else, especially the people of New Brunswick. But the Empire is crumbling, they're into the third generation now and these last few generations have grown up ultra wealthy and out of touch. Allegedly the Refinery is being or is sold and the various companies may be goign public.
KC has it stipulaed in his will that nothing is to be sold for fifty years after his death. But then there are ways around it. Irving bought a refinery in Ireland during covid, and word was this was to be able to blackmail NB like they do with the pulp mill. When they want something, they just talk about the tax deals they could get in Quebec and the governmetn caves, not that they'd fight much anyway.
But the 'rumour' about the refiniery was likely because they didn't like some press.
I could be wrong, but I thought the facility was built on land owned by DP World which runs the port facilities.
@@ironmikekendall2506 Ironically the chinese would probably have more employment there. This is why nationalization of oil makes perfect sense. Laragely the OWNERSHIP means little in the operations. As I've said, Saudi Arabian government OWNS the second largest corporation in the world, which is an oil company. Its as nationalized as Venezuela, who for some reason we blame their ownership of the oil on why their economy is crap.
And yet Saudi Arabia gets a BILLION dollars a day in PROFIT from its 'investment' in oil. Thats 365 billion a YEAR. Which would pretty much mean we'd never have to pay income taxes again.
@@ironmikekendall2506 more likely Suncor
@@ironmikekendall2506 doubt it, the refinery produces oil and fuel for all of the companies the other Irving family members run. It will just get “sold” to someone else in the family.
Alberta is leaps and bounds ahead of Irving not 1 proper refinery
They do the ship maintenance in Halifax and man they are bad
Corrupt corporation .
*No one:*
*First year university student:* Let me tell you a one sided story about Irving.
To those that want actual objective information on Irving, do you own research, because this kid seems to have only sourced a disgruntled ex Irving employee in the Waterloo St Tim Hortons parking lot.
Irving is a company that conducts aggressive shrewd business, yes. It has done so in a province that has been chronically mismanaged at the municipal and and provincial levels since the 1970’s.
Despite Irving’s ability to exploit these weaknesses in New Brunswick, it has provided it with revenue that would not otherwise be there. Irving’s also invests obscene amounts of money into the communities at no cost to taxpayers. If Irving Oil sells to a foreign owner, don’t expect these benefits. New Brunswick will literally become an ATM and its landscape will be raped for its resources at no benefit at all to the local citizens.
Until the kid that did this foolish little presentation grows some hair on his nuts and experiences the real world, I suggest you get your information from established educated sources.
You are right on all the line but some tried to built up their municipality and province and where not given the chance because of hand being sold
Interesting podcast, thank you. I've read 2 books about this family. A large fish in a small pond, they monopolized the business climate and leveraged to their advantage, staying within their core.
Capitialism yes ...leaches No
great video!
Do one on Macangus' from Manitoba. It'd be nice for us Canadians to learn what's really at the core of our countries Provincial Corruption.
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@@williamthiessen7413 😂And a Thiessen chimes in with the '??'😂The family that partnered with them to build what I'm alluding too😂
IRVING WAS THE FIRST THING I NOTICED VISITING NB lol....now I kjow why....hillbilly government
I can't wait for a government with some backbone. Where as soon as they threaten to go, they turn around and say "OK, leave".
Someone needs to call their bluff. They aren't able to give their operations anywhere else without being outcompeted and they know it.
This scared tactic is old hat. It's time for the chickens to come home to roost.
That’s brutal. What they’re doing should be made illegal. Close the tax loopholes
sell out higgs
Correction, the largest oil refinery on the CONTINENT. They also are the largest private landowners in Maine now, and 'coincidentally' Maine has been fighting Hydro Quebec's attempt to bring Quebec hydro lines through northern quebec. Interesting how gleeful many NBers at just the prospect of an oil pipeline that would really do nothing for us, but in Maine they can't get just a line of power poles.
For another video, might be worth investigating something I've wondered about for years. Quebec has been trying to get more hydro to Maine for DECADES to sell. It has SO much power that NB should really need NO power production.
From what I've heard, they need only to upgrade some transmission lines. Thats it Then get cheap ppwer from Quebec. Yet we don't. Weirdly enough, Quebec is SO desperate to get hydro lines through northern quebec that they going to court to overturn a state wide referenda. Meaning, they are pretty desperate.
So one could ask, wouldn't THEY pay to upgrade power lines in New Brunswick in order to access southern Maine? Wouldnt THEY agree to sell us cheap power in order to provide access to Maine?
I don't know the answers to these because literally NO media organization ever even mentions it. The last mention I heard about hydro, was when CBC reported that NBPower has an agreement to pay Irving to buy power from them, whether they need it or not.
That was YEARS ago.
Umm didnt the «irvings also do some shipping into the USA during Prohibition.. Family has been dubious since a long time ago..
The Bronfman family certainly did. Then again my grandad was rumrunning on Lake Erie at the time, he was a poor fisherman though, not a Canadian robber baron.
Its called the Internet.you cant stop it
Following the script of capitalistic dominance.
There is a big difference between monopoly capitalism and the free market system. Please don't confuse one with the other.
Yeah the by products of oil production leads to a load of toxic grease and it's understandable that no one else would want such a region.
This is all of Canada
A few exist as lucky charms
The rest of us pay dearly for that.
Not too bad but once those few satisfied others from outside were brought in
Now China and Asia own the rest
Those Chinese didn’t forget how their grandfathers were treated building that railroad !
All truth, Saint John simps
This gunner?
@@petermontague7538 gunshow
Arthur dead at 93 😮 coding again 666 . Unbelievable.
What Irving has to do with illuminati, satanic codes, free masons, secret societies, banking cartels, private central banks, and zionism? Any connection with Black Rock too?
In the 1990s when irving was freely clearcutting 24/7 in s/w nova scotia they eventually came w/i 1 mile of a quiet rural religious group.
The group asked if irving might be willing to cease night time operations.
Irving refused.
The religious group then moved out west.
This is a pretty biaised story, from a Texas’ news organization
It fails to say the Irving family has provided many generations of New Brunswick residents with the dignity of a steady and rewarding carreer, the ability to save for a dignified retirement and consistently invested in the development of industry and peoples in New Brunswick. Are they perfect? No of course. But we don’t need a subject matter lesson from our friends in Texas. Look in your own backyard and let us deal with the Irving legacy as we please.
I live in Saint John and its unbelievably disgusting on how the Irving's have manipulated and taken from New Brunswick. The amount of illegal chemical dumping into the bay of fundy and the toxic substances the Irving's buried in the Irving nature park killing Acres of park land and positioning ground water. Irving's clear cutting is still happening today as well as dumping pulp and paper factory run off in to the bay of fundy. We are suffering and more and more people are the working poor. Not able to keep lights on or food on the table
Thank You for telling the awful truth about my neck of the woods but I have ask who is Spoke Media???
Don’t forget to mention the joint
McCain. Irving handshake deals
There is no love between the two
To understand what you are dealing with here, you need to understand the genealogy of old stock Canadians such as the Irvings. You must understand religious and secret society affiliations. You must understand world history. Only then will you comprehend who the Irvings really are and why they have so much power. Until then, you’re just spinning your wheels. Trace back to where these people came from before immigrating to British North America… then trace back from there. It’ll take some time and effort, but eventually you’ll figure out who they are and why they are untouchable.
Good luck.
The Irving truck stops are extremely clean and the restaurant food is good
Sickening, make them pay their debts and taxes. We shouldn’t have to for them.
If this information is objective and true, very informative and interesting documentary.
It only scratches the surface. It's actually much worse.
Being from N.B, I can say that I was so happy the day I left. Beautiful provide nice but as corrupt as it gets. Btw, all corporations avoid paying taxes and use their influence on municipal governments to get their way.
Criminals!!!
HOMELESS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ,WHY DKO YOU IRVINE HAVE VENDETTA ON US IN SAINT JOHN NB CANADA 🇨🇦
Thanks for the Canadian content. It’s good to know who are over lords are
The chief of the New Brunswick woods has passed away at the age of 98
Same thing in PEI they buy every farm they can get to control the market
Funny ,no sexual assault allegations? Usually money attracts this
And who owns their refinery now? No media stories on that sale.
Dont vote liberal dont vote conservative
They also own midland transport
12760 Winona Locks
Hello from fredericton,NB !
When I travelled to NB, I was so shock that everything was own by Irving. From oil, to transport , to hardware stores, food chain. You can’t beat them as they own everything.
THEY STARTED IN MY TOWN? WHAT
I WORKED ON IRVING OIL REFINERY EXTENSION 1974/75 WE LIVED UP BY THE TOP OF MOUNT PLEASANT AVENUE WE CAME OVER FROM THE U.K. WE WERE LOOKED AFTER VERY WELL .THE PEOPLE OF SAINT JOHN WERE VERY FRIENDLY .WE USED TO GO TO THE X.L. CLUB AND THE LEGION IN CHARLOTTE STREET VERY COLD WINTER BUT GOOD MEMORY
Thanks for the story, but you need not yell it my friend.
This is true story here folks