Have you tried the Nuphy Air 75? It is the first keyboard I actually ever loved using. I was coming from a Royale Kludge mechanical, Magic Keyboard, and Logitech MX. I ended up buying 3 of them over time so my wife and kid's desk had them. It is a low profile mechanical with your choice of switches. Has RGB backlighting and extra key caps for Windows and MacOS specific keys. Connection options are: wired, wireless dongle, and bluetooth. Three devices saves for bluetooth, plus the 4th spot for the dongle. Physical switch to change from Windows to Mac. Physical switch to change between wired, wireless, and off. Has removable magnetic rubber riser feet. Features a metal frame with a transparent plastic underbelly. They also sell a wide assortment of key caps if you want to go with a custom look. That Corsair keyboard on Apple's store is a shocker. Last brand I'd expect to see there. Keyboard actually look pretty clean though, not a crazy over the top type of design they are usually known for. I wonder if there is a future in Apple gaming where Corsair is a major licensed accessory partner?
@@method341 It just depends on what switches you choose at checkout. If you don't like noise, reds are the best (of the three main options on mechanical keyboards) and blues are the worst, with brown sitting in the middle. I am a brown guy myself, as I do want some feedback on my presses, but I don't like the loud clicks of blues. Nothing is going to beat rubber membrane keys as far as silence goes, but there is a reason that style switch is found on the lowest end bargain bin keyboards. They have poor feel, are not accurate, wear out quickly, and are not easily repaired or replaced. The other major option is scissor switch keyboards like the Magic Keyboard or Logitech's MX Keys. I would stay away from Logitech as lately their quality has nose dived and the warranty support has become one of those operations where they just keep sending you scripted responses in hopes you will give up and buy a new one. I was coming off of an MX Keys before the Nuphy, and I found it to be capable at the time, but once I tried a low profile quality mechanical, I couldn't go back. I had never noticed before how bad that stability of the keys was on the MX and how bad the latency was. The Magic Keyboard while still having poor latency, actually has pretty good stability, so if you have one and like it, it is a good keyboard to stick to. Same thing happened to me with mice. Started with the Magic Mouse. It was fine. Saw a bunch of TH-camrs recommend the MX3, that was better. Then I tried a high DPI mouse... wow I didn't know what a mouse was supposed to feel like, how smooth and accurate it could be. Now I find the MX 3 annoying to use and the Magic Mouse is intolerable. To give you an idea of noise on the Air 75, Apple's Magic Keyboard is about identical in volume level to my Nuphy Air 75 with brown switches. The Nuphy has more of a balanced sound where it is a level thud as the keys land, where as the Magic Keyboard is a short but shrill click. I wouldn't want to sleep in a silent room with someone operating either one, but on an airplane or something, while they would both be a little annoying, I would find the Nuphy more tolerable. There are so many options out there. If silence is your main concern I would look into what is available on rubber membrane. I am personally only familiar with the $10-$20 options you see at department stores, but I am sure there is probably some companies making something a little higher end.
@@CleanDesign_ wow, thanks for your thorough review. I am currently using the Wooting HE60+ which is amazing and just ordered a LoFree Flow 80 because I was missing the arrow keys.
@@method341 I am not familiar with Wooting, but there is some LoFree stuff I am interested in trying. I haven't watched any thorough reviews on their stuff yet, but their physical designs certainly catch my eye.
Our experience is that Apple watch unlock and authorization on Macs with multiple user profiles does not work well, or consistently. We use a Keychron K10 Pro keyboard and love it but the Apple Magic keyboard with touch ID might have been a better choice for a multiple user profile situation.
Just wanted to second your opinion on the Logitech keyboard. I have had the MX Keys version for 3 years and love it. It's the best overall keyboard I've ever owned and I'm 65, so you know I've been around the block a few times when it comes to tech. Logitech's customer service has always been top notch. Less then a year in, my original MX had a shift key crack after I had dropped my iPhone on it. Called tech support asking if I could get them to send me a new shift key. They did better then that. They shipped me a brand new keyboard at no cost and it got to me from California to Montreal in 2 days!! I also highly recommend their MX Master 35 wireless mouse which you yourself use. It is the finest wireless mouse I've owned. I know it might sound like I'm doing a commercial for Logitech products but I've never been disappointed with their products or service. They simply are amongst the best of the best in what they do. Thanks for another year of outstanding content on your channel Kyle. Your excellent at what you do and what's more, you're someone who's work and opinions are someone that I can trust, something that is becoming increasingly hard to find anywhere with each passing year!
I love the features you covered on the K65 Plus. But I do use a numbers pad a lot. Is there a Corsair product with the K65 features that include a keypad? What about the K70 models?
At work I use MX Keys S. The keycaps feel very premium and despite the low-profile it feels very good to type on. Never had problems with it. But I have something else to share here: I wanted a color backlit mechanical keyboard for home, and just bought the Logitech G515 TKL (Brown switches). I got this also because of the PBT keycap and the aesthetic appeal of the keyboard (which I really like). It connects via bluetooth out-of-the-box so that is not an issue at all. Any keyboard you want that connects via bluetooth will work for Windows and Mac alike. Now my complaint is that most F-keys on it lack functionality. Also, the 'window' and 'alt' keys are not swapped, but placed exactly the same as where windows keyboards are. I don't mind getting used to it, but it's a difference. If Keychron or Nuphy had made something with PBT keys and a 'look' like the G515 TKL, I would buy that immediately.
Speaking from experience, Logitech’s build quality is great. But it has connectivity problems, and its own software has problems. Settings will reset at random, for example. Doesn’t happen often, but when it does, it happens at the worst time.
I just went through this exact same keyboard shopping experience. In my case, I did not mind spending extra if I could find the perfect keyboard for my setup. My setup is a M4 Mac Mini and PC Gaming rig, so I wanted something I could connect to my monitor’s KVM switch and use with both. I did consider the Corsair, but I ended up spending a little more and going with a Glorious keyboard. The nice thing is Glorious allows you to customize the entire thing, choosing from tons of options including colors, key caps, switches, etc. I designed one that matches the silver/black look of my setup. You can really spend a fortune if you max out this keyboard with all the options, but I don’t need the wireless connectivity, so I just went with the wired setup and got one of their fancy braided coiled USB cables.
Been using MX Keys Mini for years, never had a problem, this thing has been great. Full size (MX Keys S) too wide and expensive unless you need a numeric keypad.
I’ve got the Keychron K3 for my iPad Pro. I’m typing on it right now. I’ve had Logitech mechanical switches fail, but I’ve already got 3 Keychron keyboards and they’re all very good. With swappable keycaps, wires, and switches, you can just replace any that go bad. I got my K3 on sale for $80 locally.
My twelve-year old mini is paired with a full sized Apple key board (wired) from the same period. Best board I've ever used and will use it with a new mini.
I use the same 10 year old wired, 75% size apple keyboard.Tbh, simply the fact that it's the exact same layout as one's MacBook is reason enough to keep using it.
I have tried the Logi Craft keyboard and the Keycron with my dual Mac-PC setup. I have found that switching on Keycron is much more irritating because of that additional Mac-PC switch. So after all I’ve kept the Logi option: it is connected to PC, MacBook and work laptop with easiest seamless switches between the devices
I love my Logitech MX Keys with Logitech MX Master 3s mouse for Mac. Brilliant and just work as Mac Dedicated products. I didn't go for the Apple Keyboard or mouse because come on Apple, no backlight? and as a former windows user I prefer the scrolling and buttons on my mouse.
I’m a power user who’s tried several different keyboards for my workflows. Until recently, the Logitech Craft keyboard was the best. But Logi’s failure to provide support for the advanced features or even support the device in Options+ completely disqualifies it. The Magic Keyboard with Numpad and TouchID is my go-to-just make sure somebody else buys it lol. My work has provided those for the last few years.
I recently switched to Nuphy Air75 from Apple keyboard and it’s been awesome. I got their custom keycaps, switched some keys around, and it works great, looks great and feels great. One big factor for me was that I wanted the small layout but I’m so used to the option key being on the bottom left like the full size Magic Keyboard. Function key should really live elsewhere IMHO.
I've got a MacBook. I'm too used to the 4 keys left of the keyboard. I can't get one without them so my option would be the AMK in its smaller version. Great video as always
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I just got the Wooting HE60+ and damn, is it a joy to type on, but I really miss the arrow keys. I should have got the HE80. Oh well, I just ordered the LoFree Flow 80. Can't wait!
I was into all kinds of mech keyboards from a current Q1 Max to some "ancient" FILCO. Somehow, at the end of day, I just return back to the magic keyboard with numpad. It's just how strange that I got fastest typing speed and lowest typo on it.
Two years ago I purchased a Keychron K14 to go with my Mac mini M1 - I really wanted one of these neat mechanical keyboards. I purchased it from Amazon Australia and didn't notice at the time that it had a very short warranty period. The keyboard was advertised as macOS and iOS compatible. That turned out not to be true; "partially compatible" might be closer to the truth. First off it would not connect via Bluetooth to the Mac. I think it would connect via a cable but there were still issues making it unusable. It would connect to my iPad via Bluetooth but some of the keys were not recognised. It took weeks of discussion/argument with Keychron Australia and then the Amazon warranty had run out. Keychron simply refused to believe there was an issue. The keyboard ended up in the tip. I purchased an Apple small Magic Keyboard and that works flawlessly. After my experience, I would NEVER buy a Keychron product again. If you don't want Apple keyboards then Logitech always seem to work ok.
The Q3 is sweet but a bit pricey. I love my Keychron V5 mechanical keyboard, got it really cheap. Swapped out the mushy Brown switches with some heavier tactile ones. Mac/Windows switch is great, the Via software is great as well for reassigning keys
I’m waiting on a Nuphy Air96 from last week’s sale. Since I’m completely upgrading my workspace, I was not interested in upgrading my lighting version apple keyboard and paying $350 for the usb-c version and touchpad. So, I did my research and landed on Nuphy.
The absolute deal breaker for every third party keyboard for me is that lack of Touch ID! Now, if Apple just got round to making a full-size retro-illuminated!
I have always disliked the Magic keyboards from Apple. There is no real key travel and I can't stand that. I prefer mechanical style keyboards and I have owned quite a few especially for when I do PC gaming. After years of using many different brands of keyboards I have finally found my absolute favorite keyboard of all time. A few weeks ago I purchased the Logitech G713 wired mechanical keyboard with the red linear keys to use for my new M4 Mac mini. It is very satisfying to type on and very comfortable. I love the sleek look of it and the size is perfect for me being a ten keyless keyboard. I find I make far less typos when using this keyboard over the other ten keyless and 65% keyboards I have used in the past. It is just a joy to use this wonderful keyboard and I highly recommend it.
I tried the Keychron K3 Max but I had to return it because it stopped working after the first few hours. I was between that an the nuphy but I’m not down with their waifu stuff so I went with the Keychron. I just got a couple of yunzii keyboards on Black Friday (a 65% and 75%) and so far I’ve really been digging them. That’s what I use with my AVP but for desk use I love my moonlander. I haven’t tried any other split ergo keyboards yet since they’re pretty pricy, but I would love to try more at some point and compare.
Logitech’s software and customization solution is *awful*. It consistently takes a little while to actually replace defaults with what you customized it to when you wake or connect your Mac. This means for a few seconds the default behavior will engage instead. In practice this means I’ve found Logitech’s customizatio to unreliable that it’s better to simply not use it, lest I make my Mac do things I didn’t intend at all. Despite that I *really* enjoy the Logitech MX Keys Mini. It can connect to a specific Logitech Bluetooth plug and not a specific Mac. This is wonderful if you have a Thunderbolt KVM that switches between computers. Whatever computers is connected and the MX Keys Mini (and my Logitech mouse) is automatically connected. It even works when an iPad is connected to the thunderbolt KVM! I’d love to have an chiclet style keyboard with roughly the compact Mac layout (I’m just used to it because of their laptops and their iPad keyboards), but have it actually have customization that works. And yes, I’ve already tried Karabiner Elements. It is not able to override Logitech Keys MX Mini, sadly. I kinda wish I was able to use mechanical keyboards, because the customization of the Keychron seems great, but I always get RSI from using mechanical keebs (incl. low profile ones). Anyway, good video overview! I appreciate it!
Other low profile mechanical keyboards to consider - Lofree Flow and the Nuphy Air 60/75 V2. Best part of getting a mechanical keyboard, you will find the typing feel that fits you best. Thousands of switches and dozens keycap profiles. And even more options if you go full custom. With Keychron, the best buy is to go "barebones", then find after market switches and keycaps you like. The stock keycaps that comes with the Q3 Max is "OSA/KSA" profile. They are meant to be tall. The "standard" profile most are used to are called "Cherry".
Yeah was surprised the Nuphy Air wasn't mentioned at all. Was the first non-Apple keyboard to pop into my head. Admittedly I'm using a Nuphy Air 75 so I'm biased
I had the Apple Magic keyboard with the numpad from a prior setup and I’m still using it with my new M4 Mac mini. I like the typing experience.
Have you tried the Nuphy Air 75? It is the first keyboard I actually ever loved using. I was coming from a Royale Kludge mechanical, Magic Keyboard, and Logitech MX. I ended up buying 3 of them over time so my wife and kid's desk had them. It is a low profile mechanical with your choice of switches. Has RGB backlighting and extra key caps for Windows and MacOS specific keys. Connection options are: wired, wireless dongle, and bluetooth. Three devices saves for bluetooth, plus the 4th spot for the dongle. Physical switch to change from Windows to Mac. Physical switch to change between wired, wireless, and off. Has removable magnetic rubber riser feet. Features a metal frame with a transparent plastic underbelly. They also sell a wide assortment of key caps if you want to go with a custom look.
That Corsair keyboard on Apple's store is a shocker. Last brand I'd expect to see there. Keyboard actually look pretty clean though, not a crazy over the top type of design they are usually known for. I wonder if there is a future in Apple gaming where Corsair is a major licensed accessory partner?
It appears to be very loud from TH-cam reviews though
@@method341 It just depends on what switches you choose at checkout. If you don't like noise, reds are the best (of the three main options on mechanical keyboards) and blues are the worst, with brown sitting in the middle. I am a brown guy myself, as I do want some feedback on my presses, but I don't like the loud clicks of blues.
Nothing is going to beat rubber membrane keys as far as silence goes, but there is a reason that style switch is found on the lowest end bargain bin keyboards. They have poor feel, are not accurate, wear out quickly, and are not easily repaired or replaced.
The other major option is scissor switch keyboards like the Magic Keyboard or Logitech's MX Keys. I would stay away from Logitech as lately their quality has nose dived and the warranty support has become one of those operations where they just keep sending you scripted responses in hopes you will give up and buy a new one. I was coming off of an MX Keys before the Nuphy, and I found it to be capable at the time, but once I tried a low profile quality mechanical, I couldn't go back. I had never noticed before how bad that stability of the keys was on the MX and how bad the latency was. The Magic Keyboard while still having poor latency, actually has pretty good stability, so if you have one and like it, it is a good keyboard to stick to. Same thing happened to me with mice. Started with the Magic Mouse. It was fine. Saw a bunch of TH-camrs recommend the MX3, that was better. Then I tried a high DPI mouse... wow I didn't know what a mouse was supposed to feel like, how smooth and accurate it could be. Now I find the MX 3 annoying to use and the Magic Mouse is intolerable.
To give you an idea of noise on the Air 75, Apple's Magic Keyboard is about identical in volume level to my Nuphy Air 75 with brown switches. The Nuphy has more of a balanced sound where it is a level thud as the keys land, where as the Magic Keyboard is a short but shrill click. I wouldn't want to sleep in a silent room with someone operating either one, but on an airplane or something, while they would both be a little annoying, I would find the Nuphy more tolerable.
There are so many options out there. If silence is your main concern I would look into what is available on rubber membrane. I am personally only familiar with the $10-$20 options you see at department stores, but I am sure there is probably some companies making something a little higher end.
got wisteria switches, not very happy with those, and then gateron chocolates, man ! perfect ! love'em
@@CleanDesign_ wow, thanks for your thorough review. I am currently using the Wooting HE60+ which is amazing and just ordered a LoFree Flow 80 because I was missing the arrow keys.
@@method341 I am not familiar with Wooting, but there is some LoFree stuff I am interested in trying. I haven't watched any thorough reviews on their stuff yet, but their physical designs certainly catch my eye.
I switched to the Satechi SM1 and loving it. I have the backlight on all the time.
Our experience is that Apple watch unlock and authorization on Macs with multiple user profiles does not work well, or consistently. We use a Keychron K10 Pro keyboard and love it but the Apple Magic keyboard with touch ID might have been a better choice for a multiple user profile situation.
Just wanted to second your opinion on the Logitech keyboard. I have had the MX Keys version for 3 years and love it. It's the best overall keyboard I've ever owned and I'm 65, so you know I've been around the block a few times when it comes to tech.
Logitech's customer service has always been top notch. Less then a year in, my original MX had a shift key crack after I had dropped my iPhone on it. Called tech support asking if I could get them to send me a new shift key. They did better then that. They shipped me a brand new keyboard at no cost and it got to me from California to Montreal in 2 days!!
I also highly recommend their MX Master 35 wireless mouse which you yourself use. It is the finest wireless mouse I've owned.
I know it might sound like I'm doing a commercial for Logitech products but I've never been disappointed with their products or service. They simply are amongst the best of the best in what they do.
Thanks for another year of outstanding content on your channel Kyle. Your excellent at what you do and what's more, you're someone who's work and opinions are someone that I can trust, something that is becoming increasingly hard to find anywhere with each passing year!
I have the Logitech Craft... It's AMAZING!
I love the features you covered on the K65 Plus. But I do use a numbers pad a lot. Is there a Corsair product with the K65 features that include a keypad? What about the K70 models?
At work I use MX Keys S. The keycaps feel very premium and despite the low-profile it feels very good to type on. Never had problems with it. But I have something else to share here:
I wanted a color backlit mechanical keyboard for home, and just bought the Logitech G515 TKL (Brown switches). I got this also because of the PBT keycap and the aesthetic appeal of the keyboard (which I really like). It connects via bluetooth out-of-the-box so that is not an issue at all. Any keyboard you want that connects via bluetooth will work for Windows and Mac alike. Now my complaint is that most F-keys on it lack functionality. Also, the 'window' and 'alt' keys are not swapped, but placed exactly the same as where windows keyboards are. I don't mind getting used to it, but it's a difference.
If Keychron or Nuphy had made something with PBT keys and a 'look' like the G515 TKL, I would buy that immediately.
Speaking from experience, Logitech’s build quality is great. But it has connectivity problems, and its own software has problems. Settings will reset at random, for example. Doesn’t happen often, but when it does, it happens at the worst time.
Very much agree with this. Sometimes Bluetooth disconnects and repairs. Really frustrating
Bluetooth is bad for keyboard you must use wifi which is great with Logitech too.
I just went through this exact same keyboard shopping experience. In my case, I did not mind spending extra if I could find the perfect keyboard for my setup. My setup is a M4 Mac Mini and PC Gaming rig, so I wanted something I could connect to my monitor’s KVM switch and use with both. I did consider the Corsair, but I ended up spending a little more and going with a Glorious keyboard. The nice thing is Glorious allows you to customize the entire thing, choosing from tons of options including colors, key caps, switches, etc. I designed one that matches the silver/black look of my setup. You can really spend a fortune if you max out this keyboard with all the options, but I don’t need the wireless connectivity, so I just went with the wired setup and got one of their fancy braided coiled USB cables.
Been using MX Keys Mini for years, never had a problem, this thing has been great. Full size (MX Keys S) too wide and expensive unless you need a numeric keypad.
I have the logitech mx mechanical and use it at work have had it for two years now. No issues to report
I’ve got the Keychron K3 for my iPad Pro. I’m typing on it right now. I’ve had Logitech mechanical switches fail, but I’ve already got 3 Keychron keyboards and they’re all very good. With swappable keycaps, wires, and switches, you can just replace any that go bad. I got my K3 on sale for $80 locally.
Pase por esto hace unas semanas y al final terminé comprando el Magic Keyboard, nada mejor que usar el teclado nativo
This is the video I’ve been looking for! Immediately subscribed. Looking forward to what you do next dude!
Thanks so much for subscribing, I'm glad you found it helpful!
My twelve-year old mini is paired with a full sized Apple key board (wired) from the same period. Best board I've ever used and will use it with a new mini.
I use the same 10 year old wired, 75% size apple keyboard.Tbh, simply the fact that it's the exact same layout as one's MacBook is reason enough to keep using it.
Hi dear Kyle, which camera do you use for these videos? 🙂 I want to know the best camera (with soft image) for indoor and outdoor. ✨✨
I use an a7iv, but any modern camera will be able to capture similar results
@@KyleEricksonthanks for your answer!
I have tried the Logi Craft keyboard and the Keycron with my dual Mac-PC setup. I have found that switching on Keycron is much more irritating because of that additional Mac-PC switch. So after all I’ve kept the Logi option: it is connected to PC, MacBook and work laptop with easiest seamless switches between the devices
I love my Logitech MX Keys with Logitech MX Master 3s mouse for Mac. Brilliant and just work as Mac Dedicated products. I didn't go for the Apple Keyboard or mouse because come on Apple, no backlight? and as a former windows user I prefer the scrolling and buttons on my mouse.
You are quite heavily biased towards mechanical/gaming type keyboards. Shame really.
I’m a power user who’s tried several different keyboards for my workflows. Until recently, the Logitech Craft keyboard was the best. But Logi’s failure to provide support for the advanced features or even support the device in Options+ completely disqualifies it.
The Magic Keyboard with Numpad and TouchID is my go-to-just make sure somebody else buys it lol. My work has provided those for the last few years.
I recently switched to Nuphy Air75 from Apple keyboard and it’s been awesome. I got their custom keycaps, switched some keys around, and it works great, looks great and feels great. One big factor for me was that I wanted the small layout but I’m so used to the option key being on the bottom left like the full size Magic Keyboard. Function key should really live elsewhere IMHO.
I've got a MacBook. I'm too used to the 4 keys left of the keyboard. I can't get one without them so my option would be the AMK in its smaller version. Great video as always
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Thank you for the video! Came at the right time :D
I hope you found it helpful!
Kyle, do one for Monitor Edition too. Add budget expensive middle range if can
The sound test? “Just imagine it dw”
Very interesting video ! A useful piece of software I use to remap keys layout : Ukelele (from SIL)... Have a glance at it, tou won't regret
Great Video Kyle!
Thanks for watching!
I just got the Wooting HE60+ and damn, is it a joy to type on, but I really miss the arrow keys. I should have got the HE80. Oh well, I just ordered the LoFree Flow 80. Can't wait!
I was into all kinds of mech keyboards from a current Q1 Max to some "ancient" FILCO. Somehow, at the end of day, I just return back to the magic keyboard with numpad. It's just how strange that I got fastest typing speed and lowest typo on it.
Two years ago I purchased a Keychron K14 to go with my Mac mini M1 - I really wanted one of these neat mechanical keyboards. I purchased it from Amazon Australia and didn't notice at the time that it had a very short warranty period. The keyboard was advertised as macOS and iOS compatible. That turned out not to be true; "partially compatible" might be closer to the truth. First off it would not connect via Bluetooth to the Mac. I think it would connect via a cable but there were still issues making it unusable. It would connect to my iPad via Bluetooth but some of the keys were not recognised. It took weeks of discussion/argument with Keychron Australia and then the Amazon warranty had run out. Keychron simply refused to believe there was an issue. The keyboard ended up in the tip. I purchased an Apple small Magic Keyboard and that works flawlessly. After my experience, I would NEVER buy a Keychron product again.
If you don't want Apple keyboards then Logitech always seem to work ok.
The Q3 is sweet but a bit pricey. I love my Keychron V5 mechanical keyboard, got it really cheap. Swapped out the mushy Brown switches with some heavier tactile ones.
Mac/Windows switch is great, the Via software is great as well for reassigning keys
I’m waiting on a Nuphy Air96 from last week’s sale. Since I’m completely upgrading my workspace, I was not interested in upgrading my lighting version apple keyboard and paying $350 for the usb-c version and touchpad. So, I did my research and landed on Nuphy.
Did you get the V2?
@ Yup. It just shipped for me. They must have done well with the sales.
I really like my Lofree Flow 100. :)
I have FOUR everyday keyboards and one thing I want to know is what are you mac os people using for your Globe key for non-Apple keyboards?
for emojis (if that's what you're using it for), control+command+space is the default shortcut
You missed out on the NyPhy
Do any 3rd party keyboard pass FN (globe key) to the mac?
HHKB Hybrid is the way to go
The absolute deal breaker for every third party keyboard for me is that lack of Touch ID! Now, if Apple just got round to making a full-size retro-illuminated!
I have always disliked the Magic keyboards from Apple. There is no real key travel and I can't stand that. I prefer mechanical style keyboards and I have owned quite a few especially for when I do PC gaming. After years of using many different brands of keyboards I have finally found my absolute favorite keyboard of all time. A few weeks ago I purchased the Logitech G713 wired mechanical keyboard with the red linear keys to use for my new M4 Mac mini. It is very satisfying to type on and very comfortable. I love the sleek look of it and the size is perfect for me being a ten keyless keyboard. I find I make far less typos when using this keyboard over the other ten keyless and 65% keyboards I have used in the past. It is just a joy to use this wonderful keyboard and I highly recommend it.
I tried the Keychron K3 Max but I had to return it because it stopped working after the first few hours. I was between that an the nuphy but I’m not down with their waifu stuff so I went with the Keychron. I just got a couple of yunzii keyboards on Black Friday (a 65% and 75%) and so far I’ve really been digging them. That’s what I use with my AVP but for desk use I love my moonlander. I haven’t tried any other split ergo keyboards yet since they’re pretty pricy, but I would love to try more at some point and compare.
I don’t recommend Logitech MX. you’ll be happier with Lofree or Nuphy keyboards. Lofree might have the best low profile keyboard on the market.
Why are there such limited options shown for 96% or much of anything with a num pad?
Disappointed there are more options with number keypad. Useless to me without that!
Logitech’s software and customization solution is *awful*. It consistently takes a little while to actually replace defaults with what you customized it to when you wake or connect your Mac. This means for a few seconds the default behavior will engage instead. In practice this means I’ve found Logitech’s customizatio to unreliable that it’s better to simply not use it, lest I make my Mac do things I didn’t intend at all.
Despite that I *really* enjoy the Logitech MX Keys Mini. It can connect to a specific Logitech Bluetooth plug and not a specific Mac. This is wonderful if you have a Thunderbolt KVM that switches between computers. Whatever computers is connected and the MX Keys Mini (and my Logitech mouse) is automatically connected. It even works when an iPad is connected to the thunderbolt KVM!
I’d love to have an chiclet style keyboard with roughly the compact Mac layout (I’m just used to it because of their laptops and their iPad keyboards), but have it actually have customization that works.
And yes, I’ve already tried Karabiner Elements. It is not able to override Logitech Keys MX Mini, sadly.
I kinda wish I was able to use mechanical keyboards, because the customization of the Keychron seems great, but I always get RSI from using mechanical keebs (incl. low profile ones).
Anyway, good video overview! I appreciate it!
yeah I’m not a huge fan of the new app, the older one they had seemed to work better IMO
Other low profile mechanical keyboards to consider - Lofree Flow and the Nuphy Air 60/75 V2. Best part of getting a mechanical keyboard, you will find the typing feel that fits you best. Thousands of switches and dozens keycap profiles. And even more options if you go full custom.
With Keychron, the best buy is to go "barebones", then find after market switches and keycaps you like. The stock keycaps that comes with the Q3 Max is "OSA/KSA" profile. They are meant to be tall. The "standard" profile most are used to are called "Cherry".
Yeah was surprised the Nuphy Air wasn't mentioned at all. Was the first non-Apple keyboard to pop into my head. Admittedly I'm using a Nuphy Air 75 so I'm biased
Optimum x Wooting