What classics do you remember? Any favourites? I loved Mordheim, Gorkamorka and Battle Fleet Gothic. And Fantasy. And Space Crusade. Ahh, too many! Haha. PLEASE NOTE, I DID CHOOSE NOT TO GO THROUGH ALL BOARD GAMES/LICENSED GAMES. 😀
@@Munchie2011 Yep! Solo boardgame. Still have the whole game in the box incl. comic, they did mini’s aswell. And the Troll games all came with a casette tape with silly Troll songs! Those were the days. 😅
Cool list. I'm shocked by how many I remember. Space Hulk and the Nids were great fun. The use of the ALIENS sensor blip until you had line of sight on the Nids added to the suspense. The flamer was the boss in the tight corridors.
Monumental effort, well done. So much nostalgia, pretty much every wargamer can relate to something on the list, just proving how GW has influenced so many
Loved this bit of nostalgia.I still have my, Games Designer Workshop Traveller books that I bought from the shop in 1977. Also most of the early books and box stuff including an unopened 2nd edition 40K and an unopened Judge Dredd. Thanks to the new Horus Heresy game I have come back to 30K after 25 years!
Amazing! Sounds like you've got some good stuff there. I love the new HH, playing primarchs was my dream when I was a kid. I remenbr writing rules for the emperor, haha, he was unbeatable.
Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay seems to be the biggest omission here. A couple of editions and LOADS of adventure / expansions sets. Based in the Old World and similar, but much more detailed, mechanics to WFB. I think it has been licensed out elsewhere now but still in production I believe. Also, may be wrong but I think GW originally licensed Talisman from someone else. Their first version was actually the 2nd edition.
Space crusade was my first introduction to GW. Loved it. Then went onto the usual suspects. Games I regret missing out on are man o war, Mordenheim and battle fleet gothic.
Brought back some memories - Worked for GW in the 80's - Mainly on Talisman but also as play tester on one game that seems to have been missed Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying game 1st edn (I still have a signed copy of it somewhere of the 1st print with all the errata
The boardgame Armageddon is missing from your list. This recreated the second battle for Armageddon, and introduced the characters Commissar Yarrik and Ghazkul Thrakka to the Warhammer universe. There was also a Horus Heresy edition of the same boardgame.
I remember that one, it was good! There is also a cool HH one I own somewhere. 😀 Although, I did say I'd not do all the board games, just because there are soo many and it'd probably make the video too long. GW have been busy over the years.
Yep, loved that one, I've got it right here. The balance between the initial hoard of orks, and the imperial factories building units as fast as they can, it was spot on. Clearly actually playtested :)
Great video. I appreciate the research that’s gone into this, and there were several i hadn’t heard of. Plus now it’s made me nostalgic for gorkamorka, which was a turning point for me in the wargaming hobby. Thank you!
as an FYI - Kill Team was originally in 4th ed 40k rulebook - a small kill team of operatives form a codex facing off against a mob of mooks from another 'dex... Shadow War Armageddon was effectivley 40k units in Necromunda v1 ruleset ArbitorIan has some of the smaller games covered and i'm starting to work through the White Dwarf Games as some gems in there!
Ah nice! Thanks! Yeah, I couldn't get ant definitive info on the "true" first edition, although i do remember it. That'll be why, it was IN a book. 😀 There are some great WD games, have fun with them!
Two more worthy of mention off the top of my head are; Fury of Dracula - a hidden movement board game where investigators have to try and chase down Dracula across Europe, currently in it's 4th edition and now published Wizkids. Legends of the Old West - an wild/old west America skirmish game based off the LoTR's ruleset. Part of the Warhammer Historicals imprint, so no models were ever released, but it did get a couple of expansion books before the division was shuttered.
I hadn't heard of those, ill check them. Although, I did try to avoid all of the board games, just because there are so many and it'd make the video really long haha.
@@BroadswordWargaming Yeah that's fair enough they're just one's I own. Will Wheaton did a playthrough of Fury of Dracula 3rd Ed on his TableTop youtube series: th-cam.com/video/8kU__uZDYTI/w-d-xo.html Also Ash Barker did short Legends of the Old West campaign once, because of course he did! 🤣
@@BroadswordWargaming these two are definitely worthy additions, with Legends of the Old West being quite a popular skirmish-level miniatures game in my area back in the day. Fury of Dracula may be one of their top 3 board game designs of all time, although most people don’t remember or realize it started at GW.
Great history lesson. There were a few products in here that I've owned/played and didn't know that GW was responsible for. Really appreciate the work you put in.
Yes, you said that there was no room for all games, yet I think the early eighties deserve a special mention as GW was a source of both boardgames, miniature games and RPGs, a golden era of the hobby (now hobbIES). Rogue Trooper, Chainsaw Warrior (a solo game), Cosmic Encounters and a Warlock of Firetop Mountain boardgame, Dungeonquest and a Fury of Dracula. I remember having those last three on my wish list. As you rightly mention there were a lot of licencing back and forth, but that was part of the magic, when the hobby was more shared and DIY, before the craving of monopoly and world domination set in. The history of Warhammer is thus, totally incomplete without the RPG counterpart as well as other RPGs of the golden era of GW like Judge Dredd RPG, Runequest (Advanced, Griffon Isle, Land of Ninja), the Call of Cthulhu (3rd) and not the least, the Floor Plans boxes! It was truly a sad day when GW abandoned all RPGs. Still, I do not think there is a game I have played as much as Talisman (the second edition)...
I can't believe you seriously forgot to mention the original Mighty Empires from 1990 which was not only a boardgame on its own but could also be used as the first campaign system for WFB. It was a gem imo. Otherwise a very great summary.
He said he wasn't doing them all. I think he should have showed a visual time line with everything on and then only talked about the ones he wanted to as in the video.
@@funoff3207 I agree I think Mighty Empires definitely should have been included, when he says he says excluded things I took it to mean games like Battlecars and Goldenheroes - which was an RPG so not really a top for this video.
You missed the precursor to Battlefleet gothic, Space fleet. Also you missed out after Adeptus titanicus they released Space marine. Mighty empires too. Still good to see so much of my youth.
Its so nice to look back isnt it, glad you liked looking back! Space Marine is in there (albeit briefly), but Mighty Empires and a lot of the board games had to get cut, or it'd be the world's longest video. 😀 Time for a board game version? Let the research commence!
@@BroadswordWargaming True and false. You use art from Space Marine first edition, but their was a second edition which came about the same time as Titan Legions. Space Marine first edition was it's own game and needed a supplement book to integrate with AT.
Thanks for the trawl in to the past, can quite understand the grey area between board games and minis games. A couple of things on the older editions: Forces Of Fantasy was a key release for WFB 1st Ed as it gave army construction to the game. 40K 1st Ed I can barely recall anyone playing it as an RPG, everyone I played with pretty much built armies for it from day one, we just created our own limits on some of the things. The Realms Of Chaos books we used more in WFB than 40K, in particular in terms of gameplay they had chaos warband rules which was what we all played from it. Necromunda if I recall correctly was first introduced in a couple of White Dwarf articles ahead of the game? Can't recall how much the rules changed, from memory they were a mix of 40K and Laserburn.
Forgot to mention the Deathwing and genestealer add ons for space hulk that added rules for psykers/grey knights, i have fond memories of my op 5 man squad of GKs stomping my friends genestealers into pulp. Pretty sure there was also a hardback rule book for spacehulk that added rules for chaos terminators, orks and eldar.
You missed out a lot of their Bookcase games I've got the following in my collection:- Chaos Marauders, I believe there was an issue with copyright with this one.: Warlock the Game of Duelling Wizards; Warrior Knights: Valley of the Four Winds; Warlock of Firetop Mountain: Railway Rivals: Chainsaw Warrior: Dungeonquest with two expansions; Doctor Who the Game of Time and Space: Kings and Things with West End Games: Curse of the Mummy's Tomb: Judge Dread:Battlecars and Battlebikes: Trolls in the Pantry: OI Dats my Leg And Squelch
Those are all excellent, and a good list! Although, t I did say I'd not do all board games, just because it would make the video 9 million hours long ha. 😀
Big trip down memory lane! If anything deserves a re-release, its Gorkamorka! Absolutely loved that game and the models and small squad based skirmish style game play over a running campain with a group of friends. All time favourite!
EPIC undertaking Oli! I believe there is actually a Games Workshop Archivist job. Saw some bloke interviewed on the Warhammer TV podcast during lockdown and he was basically doing full time what you've done in 30 mins.
Haha, no way! I'd love to do this as a job and get hold of the proper books and stuff. I left a few things out (or it'd be an endless video), but I bet I missed 1 or 2 somewhere! It took ages, haha.
You missed one of my personal favourite short lived games that I never managed to get (although I have managed to find the rules online) Stormcloud Attack - 1 vs 1 aerial dogfighting, the starter sets contained 2 space craft from different factions of 40k Faith and Heresy - A Stormtalon Gunship and a Heldrake The Ancient and the Greater Good - A Night Scythe and a Razorshark The Eldritch and the Beast - A Crimson Hunter and a Dakkajet
Thanks for this, it was a true trip down memory lane! I spent so many hours playing all these and I’d genuinely forgotten a few of those editions. I’m still gutted I missed out on Mordheim, never played it due to being too poor at the time. It’s a game I wish GW would update and rerelease, and given the success of Necromunda I think there’s a market for it.
It was one of my favourite growing up. I feel like they could do it, and I wouldn't be surprised if they did! The models are there (things from underworld etc), and it's be even better now!
There was also Blitz Bowl which (as far as I know) is a simplified version of Blood Bowl for Barnes & Noble. Also, Space Marine Adventures is a series of board games featuring space marines against various enemies (chaos cultists, Necrons, orks). I believe these are also licensed for release through Barnes & Noble.
There were loads of board games, yeah! I didn't want to go through all of the licensed ones as GW has so many! 😀 I'm a huge BB fan, but only these last few years. I don't know why I didn't play it sooner!
Awesome video 😊 I have a correction, AoS 1.0 starter set is not Spire of Dawn that wasn’t released until the end of 2016 😉 The starter set is: Age of Sigmar Mighty Battles in an age of Unending War. Kind regards Kalle
Nice to see the old games brought to light once again. The thumbnail was abit misleading saying "The History of Games workshop" which made me think it would be more about the company rather than just a list of their games.
I enjoyed this. I've just got in a load of the fighting Fantasy books for my eBay page and had some fun flicking through them getting a nice nostalgia kick along the way
Great video, but one thing though. 2nd edition 40k got a dedicated psychic phase with the addition of the Dark Millenium supliment, psychic power cards and all
Don't forget the best computer game "Dark Omen" follow up to SOTHR. Still got Deathtrap dungeon from a kid too. Started Warhammer fantasy with the Elves and Goblins box set and 2nd ed 40k both sets had the cardboard cutouts which were store legal at the time. Had a lot of rogue trader, epic 40k and heroquest/warhammer quest stuff handed down by my uncle.
@@BroadswordWargaming Golden age my friend, forgot all about my 54mm Inquisitor scale stuff. Please let me know if you decide to holiday in Cornwall. I'll show you around and perhaps you may go home with some retro stuff. Great video as always, any more talk of more Mark of Calth type reports? Cheers :)
My favortie take on 40K that few remember or never heard of was Warhammer Epic 40,000 (1997) as you could have a truly massive army of thousands of troops and hundreds of vehicles and machines on the battle field
Great video! I considered buying shares in Games Workshop PLC around 2018 but didn't for some reason and could kick myself! You can see that their marketing efforts from around then paid off!
You missed Space Fleet released in 1991, which several years later was re-released with different game mechanics as Battle Fleet Gothic. You also missed Mighty Empires 1990 1Ed. My brother and I along with 4 friends, would frequently get together to play Space Marine 1Ed with Adeptus Titanicus then updated to SM 2Ed; Mighty Empires and Space Fleet. Between the 6 of us we had 1x Space Marine 1Ed, 3x Space Marine 2Ed and 12+ Regiment boxes, 3x Adeptus Titanicus. Our Epic battlefield covered the entire living room floor and took both Saturday and Sunday to complete, either playing as two teams, three teams or 6 versus.... with the amount of models being tabled, it truly was epic devastion.
A very informative video. Disappointingly I remember most of those. Didn't play all by any means but feel that Necromunda and Warcry are two games with super models and great support. Worth following.
An a teen I used to visit the very first games worshop store here in Nottingham, good to see that they are now making piles of cash and reaching massive amounts of people. specially in the USA.
I was just thinking about these fighting fantasy books. I had about 4 or 5 of these as a kid but couldn't remember what they were called. Thanks very much for reminding me and bringing back such childhood memories. I'll have to see if I can buy any on Ebay
GW also released Speed Freeks in 2018 featuring space ork buggies and bikes? I guess that's an impactful game since it introduced 5 new models to the 40k ork roster.
In 1987 i walked into my local game store looking to buy some historical miniatures. Instead i walked out with a new Sci-Fi RPG game called "Rogue Trader". Ive been an off and on player since then. These days im playing Kill Team & Horus Heresy. Im patiently waiting for new editions of Warhammer Fantasy, Space Hulk, Epic 40k, and Battlefleet Gothic.
You didn't mention probably my favorite Skirmish game Warhammer the old west. It was awesome...had killteam feel. Great video though, gotta love the nostalgia.
I have played Gamesworkshop-games since the late 70's; back then, Gamesworkshop was working with CITADEL and they produced several "GEMS" of games, like; The fury of Dracula(which has reappeared several times in the past decennia), Dungeonquest, Kings and things, Talisman(which had also several make-overs through the years), Lords of the realm and a hilarious card-game called "Chaos Marauders"... All very entertaining games and I would like to see any(besides Fury of Dracula and Talisman) of those re-printed or re-made...
Really pleased to see you mention Warhammer Ancients. It was a really important piece of community engagement for GW, as it was a way to connect older games who’d started in the early 80s back with the company. GW had a pretty poor reputation with that group (not always deserved) but it was a way of saying, we respect you aren’t interested in sci if anymore, but look how fun our rules can still be in a historical setting.
@@BroadswordWargaming hahaha i went all Orc mad because i also had Heroquest and used the orcs and firmir from HQ and its expansion sets to build up a green skin army with the 4th ed goblins
Ive gotta say I loved Mordheim. Still a big favourite and I have so many great memories coming into the hobby with the release of3rd ed of 40k. Thanks for the great history lesson Oliver! Much appreciate all the effort pt into these videos :)
I still have my original edition of Warhammer. Complete with the form for a free miniature of Thorgrim Braindim. Wonder if GW would honour that offer still!
Good catch with Space Crusade and Heroquest, but what about Battlemasters? That Empire cannon has been a staple in my empire army for literally decades.... ohh and lost patrol.... Excellent catch on confrontation... I feel this video would have been better chronologically so we could see the company change over time... So much work on research but a slip at execution with random year jumping. Please do video games next (but chronologically)
Great catcher on Battlemasters! I did try (and did an edit) Cronologically, but it was really hard to follow! 😔 It added a lot of extra talk to the video, which made it over 45 mins.. I then gave up. I also did an edit starting with all the major games, but it meant a lot of people would probably click off before they saw the cool ones! It's always tough to make edit decisions. I hope you enjoyed it though! 😀 I will probably do a video game one, just for fun, so fear not!
Very fair points, it would be longer chronologically.... I really liked the video so thanks for making it and I will look forward to the video games episode.
how did you miss Trolls in the pantry?! a classic. Necromunda had a sort of second edition in 2003 called Necromunda Underhive, but it was not very popular and the re-sculpted models were not that great
What happened to warhammer Roleplay ? I know I had that in 1988 There was also Forces of Fantasy before warhammer version 2 Had all the starting Regiments or Renown. Like Bugmans and Gromm the paunch Kings and things and chain saw warrior I remember too
Indeed there was/is warhammer roleplay. I didn't want to go into all rpgs/board games as we'd be here forever. 😀 it's licensed to loads of companies too, so gets a bit too confusing to follow. 😀 Not played it though!
It’s a pretty big omission really. It is tightly woven in with the first editions of WFB (and 40k even), not to mention the Enemy Within campaign was voted best rpg campaign of all time. Pretty big fact to leave out…. It could have easily been mentioned as a lead up to HeroQuest and Warhammer Quest. The licencing is pretty straight forward too. I mean, you could’ve just read out the first 3 lines in the Wikipedia entry….
Great list, understandable why some omissions where made, as there have been so many games from GW. Poor Lost Patrol, got lost again 😀 All started with Dark future for me, way back in the 80's... which just makes me feel aged! Glad you mentioned 40K 3rd edition, Warmaster, Epic 40,000, WFB 6th edition, Space Hulk 2nd edition, and Betrayal at Calth games that I think are the best that GW brought to the world.
Every time I see that 1st edition space hulk box I have regrets of selling mine along with the death wing and gene stealer expansions for way less than I should have.
Great stuff! I'm fascinated by what it must have been like at Games Workshop in those early days in the 80s. And I was unaware of Full Tilt and the Ork Bar Brawl games in WD! Those should be fun to look up. I'm also encouraged to hear they're bringing The Old World back, as it's my favorite setting and Age of Sigmar just doesn't do it for me. I continue to hope against hope that they'll do something new with the Southlands instead of just keeping it as a copy-paste of Lustria.
I could swear Kill Team first had rules in the 6th or 7th edition rule book before it became a separate game. I remember it was such a big hit at our club back in the day we were the first in our area to actually run a tournament. We discovered Lootaz were VERY broken in KT. HEH
Yeah, it was hard to find its true starting place. We had a few killteam style games, but not EXACT killteam. It's the one I struggled with! I think we just made our own rules up haha
@@BroadswordWargaming I actually may have the old rulebook in my garage. Let me take a look and I'll get back to you with a page number. I think there were weird floaty "kill team" rules in 4th and 5th edition too, but I think I may have lost those rulebooks in a move or something.
@@BroadswordWargaming I found my 5th, 6th, and 7th edition books and I couldn't find it so my memory is abandoning me, it wasn't in a main rulebook. All this digging is making me think the rules may have been in an expansion booklet that had extra missions, which could have been for 6th edition.
Didn’t it start with Shadow War: Armageddon before evolving into Kill Team? I’ve got the shadow war book and counters. Pretty sure they did a one off box from memory?
Kill team started using the 3rd edition rules. It was introduced by a specialist monthly game magazine who's editor was called Paul 'Fat Bloke Sawyer'.
What about Chainsaw Warrior, Talisman, Judge Dredd roleplaying, Rogue Trooper, Railway Rivals, Apocalypse, Warrior Knights and Car Wars? I remember playing all of these in the mid 80s. Plus i think there were games featuring a mummy, a vampire, cowboys, some aliens and The Dr., but not all at the same time!
Yeah, a few absolute classics in there. :) I did mention Talisman as I used to play that a lot and think it was a defining game! Although, I also said I wouldn't do all the board games/licensed games (as it'd turn it into a million hour video!), and no one wants that these days!
Good you mentioned the original creators associated with each game. Overall, I feel MORDHEIM was the peak of Games Workshop design for TT: * Smaller squads was more affordable * Mixed TT Battles with Story-RPG Campaigns * Smaller scale or higher resolution added more "human" drama (!) to each contest eg veterans (with injuries) * The setting led to great terrain potential BLOODBOWL also stands the test of time as a gamesystem with a lot of legs too. For sure the lore and world-building of Warhammer/WH40K stand out and probably excel more than the actual army battles. All the above said, looking at the modern iterations: It all feels less DIY/Hobby/Passion and more commercial sales carefully calculated to sell.
Grew up with Talisman. My step cousin had it when I visited my dad with my step mom. I remember playing a lot of cozy afternoons with it. The expansions got a bit goofy but man the memories are great. Too bad the third edition was a big stinky pile. But FFG really turned it around with gorgeous art and minis.
I dabbled when I was younger (but mainly played HeroQuest and Space Crusade), but had some good times. I never played third edition, was it that bad!? I had a good evening playing the latest edition though recently. 😀
What classics do you remember? Any favourites? I loved Mordheim, Gorkamorka and Battle Fleet Gothic. And Fantasy. And Space Crusade. Ahh, too many! Haha.
PLEASE NOTE, I DID CHOOSE NOT TO GO THROUGH ALL BOARD GAMES/LICENSED GAMES. 😀
Necromunda, Mordheim and Gorkamorka loved all of them. Still play 1st Ed necromunda and have ALL the gangs including outlanders :)
What about classic such as ‘Trolls in the pantry’, ‘Oi! Dats me leg’ and ‘Chainsaw warrior’?
Man, I’m old. 😁
@@TobiasAasvang Chainsaw warrior, loved that. Board game with a deck of zombies and equipment wasn't it?
I have never been able to find it again but I remember they released rules for Skaven Hell Pit Rat Ogre battles, wish I could find those rules.
@@Munchie2011 Yep! Solo boardgame. Still have the whole game in the box incl. comic, they did mini’s aswell. And the Troll games all came with a casette tape with silly Troll songs! Those were the days. 😅
Cool list. I'm shocked by how many I remember. Space Hulk and the Nids were great fun. The use of the ALIENS sensor blip until you had line of sight on the Nids added to the suspense. The flamer was the boss in the tight corridors.
Space Crusade, Space Hulk and HeroQuest were my first experiences of wargaming. I loved all of those games!
Monumental effort, well done. So much nostalgia, pretty much every wargamer can relate to something on the list, just proving how GW has influenced so many
Glad you enjoyed it!
Loved this bit of nostalgia.I still have my, Games Designer Workshop Traveller books that I bought from the shop in 1977. Also most of the early books and box stuff including an unopened 2nd edition 40K and an unopened Judge Dredd. Thanks to the new Horus Heresy game I have come back to 30K after 25 years!
Amazing! Sounds like you've got some good stuff there.
I love the new HH, playing primarchs was my dream when I was a kid. I remenbr writing rules for the emperor, haha, he was unbeatable.
Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay seems to be the biggest omission here. A couple of editions and LOADS of adventure / expansions sets. Based in the Old World and similar, but much more detailed, mechanics to WFB. I think it has been licensed out elsewhere now but still in production I believe.
Also, may be wrong but I think GW originally licensed Talisman from someone else. Their first version was actually the 2nd edition.
A pretty big miss indeed, seeing its The Enemy Within campaign has been voted ‘greatest rpg campaign of all time’.
Space crusade was my first introduction to GW. Loved it. Then went onto the usual suspects. Games I regret missing out on are man o war, Mordenheim and battle fleet gothic.
Brought back some memories - Worked for GW in the 80's - Mainly on Talisman but also as play tester on one game that seems to have been missed Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying game 1st edn (I still have a signed copy of it somewhere of the 1st print with all the errata
The boardgame Armageddon is missing from your list. This recreated the second battle for Armageddon, and introduced the characters Commissar Yarrik and Ghazkul Thrakka to the Warhammer universe. There was also a Horus Heresy edition of the same boardgame.
I remember that one, it was good! There is also a cool HH one I own somewhere. 😀
Although, I did say I'd not do all the board games, just because there are soo many and it'd probably make the video too long. GW have been busy over the years.
Yep, loved that one, I've got it right here. The balance between the initial hoard of orks, and the imperial factories building units as fast as they can, it was spot on. Clearly actually playtested :)
Great video. I appreciate the research that’s gone into this, and there were several i hadn’t heard of. Plus now it’s made me nostalgic for gorkamorka, which was a turning point for me in the wargaming hobby. Thank you!
Warlock of Firetop Mountain....Chainsaw Warrior.... Absolute classics
as an FYI - Kill Team was originally in 4th ed 40k rulebook - a small kill team of operatives form a codex facing off against a mob of mooks from another 'dex...
Shadow War Armageddon was effectivley 40k units in Necromunda v1 ruleset
ArbitorIan has some of the smaller games covered and i'm starting to work through the White Dwarf Games as some gems in there!
Ah nice! Thanks! Yeah, I couldn't get ant definitive info on the "true" first edition, although i do remember it. That'll be why, it was IN a book. 😀
There are some great WD games, have fun with them!
Two more worthy of mention off the top of my head are;
Fury of Dracula - a hidden movement board game where investigators have to try and chase down Dracula across Europe, currently in it's 4th edition and now published Wizkids.
Legends of the Old West - an wild/old west America skirmish game based off the LoTR's ruleset. Part of the Warhammer Historicals imprint, so no models were ever released, but it did get a couple of expansion books before the division was shuttered.
I hadn't heard of those, ill check them. Although, I did try to avoid all of the board games, just because there are so many and it'd make the video really long haha.
@@BroadswordWargaming Yeah that's fair enough they're just one's I own. Will Wheaton did a playthrough of Fury of Dracula 3rd Ed on his TableTop youtube series: th-cam.com/video/8kU__uZDYTI/w-d-xo.html
Also Ash Barker did short Legends of the Old West campaign once, because of course he did! 🤣
@@BroadswordWargaming these two are definitely worthy additions, with Legends of the Old West being quite a popular skirmish-level miniatures game in my area back in the day. Fury of Dracula may be one of their top 3 board game designs of all time, although most people don’t remember or realize it started at GW.
Great history lesson. There were a few products in here that I've owned/played and didn't know that GW was responsible for. Really appreciate the work you put in.
Yes, you said that there was no room for all games, yet I think the early eighties deserve a special mention as GW was a source of both boardgames, miniature games and RPGs, a golden era of the hobby (now hobbIES). Rogue Trooper, Chainsaw Warrior (a solo game), Cosmic Encounters and a Warlock of Firetop Mountain boardgame, Dungeonquest and a Fury of Dracula. I remember having those last three on my wish list. As you rightly mention there were a lot of licencing back and forth, but that was part of the magic, when the hobby was more shared and DIY, before the craving of monopoly and world domination set in. The history of Warhammer is thus, totally incomplete without the RPG counterpart as well as other RPGs of the golden era of GW like Judge Dredd RPG, Runequest (Advanced, Griffon Isle, Land of Ninja), the Call of Cthulhu (3rd) and not the least, the Floor Plans boxes! It was truly a sad day when GW abandoned all RPGs. Still, I do not think there is a game I have played as much as Talisman (the second edition)...
Fantastic video. Loads of stuff I didn't know about and filled the gaps from my time away for the hobby! Thanks for all the work that went into this
For a split second, seeing the thumbnail, I thought Dan Hooker was about to teach me something about GW
Good video!
I can't believe you seriously forgot to mention the original Mighty Empires from 1990 which was not only a boardgame on its own but could also be used as the first campaign system for WFB. It was a gem imo. Otherwise a very great summary.
Yeah, still have this game
He said he wasn't doing them all. I think he should have showed a visual time line with everything on and then only talked about the ones he wanted to as in the video.
@@funoff3207 I agree I think Mighty Empires definitely should have been included, when he says he says excluded things I took it to mean games like Battlecars and Goldenheroes - which was an RPG so not really a top for this video.
That sounds interesting!
You missed the precursor to Battlefleet gothic, Space fleet. Also you missed out after Adeptus titanicus they released Space marine. Mighty empires too.
Still good to see so much of my youth.
Its so nice to look back isnt it, glad you liked looking back!
Space Marine is in there (albeit briefly), but Mighty Empires and a lot of the board games had to get cut,
or it'd be the world's longest video. 😀
Time for a board game version? Let the research commence!
@@BroadswordWargaming True and false. You use art from Space Marine first edition, but their was a second edition which came about the same time as Titan Legions. Space Marine first edition was it's own game and needed a supplement book to integrate with AT.
My introduction to Games Workshop was through Space Fleet. This was the spaceship wargame that preceded Battlefleet Gothic.
Ah very cool!
3:38 Those Box Sets...so Epic each and every one!
Nice vid Oli. Brought back a lot of memories. Hope you and Josef have a great holiday.
Thanks, you too!
Thanks for the trawl in to the past, can quite understand the grey area between board games and minis games.
A couple of things on the older editions:
Forces Of Fantasy was a key release for WFB 1st Ed as it gave army construction to the game.
40K 1st Ed I can barely recall anyone playing it as an RPG, everyone I played with pretty much built armies for it from day one, we just created our own limits on some of the things.
The Realms Of Chaos books we used more in WFB than 40K, in particular in terms of gameplay they had chaos warband rules which was what we all played from it.
Necromunda if I recall correctly was first introduced in a couple of White Dwarf articles ahead of the game? Can't recall how much the rules changed, from memory they were a mix of 40K and Laserburn.
Forgot to mention the Deathwing and genestealer add ons for space hulk that added rules for psykers/grey knights, i have fond memories of my op 5 man squad of GKs stomping my friends genestealers into pulp. Pretty sure there was also a hardback rule book for spacehulk that added rules for chaos terminators, orks and eldar.
You missed out a lot of their Bookcase games I've got the following in my collection:- Chaos Marauders, I believe there was an issue with copyright with this one.: Warlock the Game of Duelling Wizards; Warrior Knights: Valley of the Four Winds; Warlock of Firetop Mountain: Railway Rivals: Chainsaw Warrior: Dungeonquest with two expansions; Doctor Who the Game of Time and Space: Kings and Things with West End Games: Curse of the Mummy's Tomb: Judge Dread:Battlecars and Battlebikes: Trolls in the Pantry: OI Dats my Leg And Squelch
Those are all excellent, and a good list! Although, t I did say I'd not do all board games, just because it would make the video 9 million hours long ha. 😀
Big trip down memory lane! If anything deserves a re-release, its Gorkamorka! Absolutely loved that game and the models and small squad based skirmish style game play over a running campain with a group of friends. All time favourite!
EPIC undertaking Oli! I believe there is actually a Games Workshop Archivist job. Saw some bloke interviewed on the Warhammer TV podcast during lockdown and he was basically doing full time what you've done in 30 mins.
Haha, no way! I'd love to do this as a job and get hold of the proper books and stuff. I left a few things out (or it'd be an endless video), but I bet I missed 1 or 2 somewhere!
It took ages, haha.
Great video! The range is mindboggling.
You missed one of my personal favourite short lived games that I never managed to get (although I have managed to find the rules online) Stormcloud Attack - 1 vs 1 aerial dogfighting, the starter sets contained 2 space craft from different factions of 40k
Faith and Heresy - A Stormtalon Gunship and a Heldrake
The Ancient and the Greater Good - A Night Scythe and a Razorshark
The Eldritch and the Beast - A Crimson Hunter and a Dakkajet
I've discovered more games I'd never heard of from the comments than I did the actual video 😅
Space Hulk 4th ed was my first introduction to the 40k setting and during the pandemic I managed to paint it. Still a great game I think!
You painted it!? Well done! Thats no easy feat. 😀
Thanks for this, it was a true trip down memory lane! I spent so many hours playing all these and I’d genuinely forgotten a few of those editions. I’m still gutted I missed out on Mordheim, never played it due to being too poor at the time. It’s a game I wish GW would update and rerelease, and given the success of Necromunda I think there’s a market for it.
It was one of my favourite growing up. I feel like they could do it, and I wouldn't be surprised if they did! The models are there (things from underworld etc), and it's be even better now!
Dungeon Queest, Warrior Knights, Space Crusade and the OG HeroQuest (I now have the re-release too) were my nostalgia games.
Same! I just picked up the re-release too, had our first go the other day!
@@BroadswordWargaming You rocking the expansion packs too?
There was also Blitz Bowl which (as far as I know) is a simplified version of Blood Bowl for Barnes & Noble. Also, Space Marine Adventures is a series of board games featuring space marines against various enemies (chaos cultists, Necrons, orks). I believe these are also licensed for release through Barnes & Noble.
There were loads of board games, yeah! I didn't want to go through all of the licensed ones as GW has so many! 😀
I'm a huge BB fan, but only these last few years. I don't know why I didn't play it sooner!
He mentioned Kerrunch but not many of the other games from that intro gaming series. Kerrunch is a terrible game.
Thank you for the history lesson. I started this year and I appreciate what you are doing.
Awesome video 😊
I have a correction, AoS 1.0 starter set is not Spire of Dawn that wasn’t released until the end of 2016 😉
The starter set is:
Age of Sigmar Mighty Battles in an age of Unending War.
Kind regards
Kalle
I was gonna say that myself. Spire of Dawn was released around 18 months later.
Nice to see the old games brought to light once again. The thumbnail was abit misleading saying "The History of Games workshop" which made me think it would be more about the company rather than just a list of their games.
I enjoyed this. I've just got in a load of the fighting Fantasy books for my eBay page and had some fun flicking through them getting a nice nostalgia kick along the way
Great video, but one thing though. 2nd edition 40k got a dedicated psychic phase with the addition of the Dark Millenium supliment, psychic power cards and all
Nice trip down memory lane. 2nd edition 40k was my one before a 25 year painting gap!
Ah nice. 2nd edition was where I started too! Welcome back!
Don't forget the best computer game "Dark Omen" follow up to SOTHR.
Still got Deathtrap dungeon from a kid too.
Started Warhammer fantasy with the Elves and Goblins box set and 2nd ed 40k both sets had the cardboard cutouts which were store legal at the time. Had a lot of rogue trader, epic 40k and heroquest/warhammer quest stuff handed down by my uncle.
Sounds like you started about the same time as me! Ah, good times right!?
@@BroadswordWargaming Golden age my friend, forgot all about my 54mm Inquisitor scale stuff. Please let me know if you decide to holiday in Cornwall. I'll show you around and perhaps you may go home with some retro stuff. Great video as always, any more talk of more Mark of Calth type reports? Cheers :)
My favortie take on 40K that few remember or never heard of was Warhammer Epic 40,000 (1997) as you could have a truly massive army of thousands of troops and hundreds of vehicles and machines on the battle field
I played a fair bit of epic in store, but didn't have a huge collection. Wish I had now!
Great video! I considered buying shares in Games Workshop PLC around 2018 but didn't for some reason and could kick myself! You can see that their marketing efforts from around then paid off!
Dude, I was exactly the same. I advised an investing friend to do it.. and he did, ha. It was a few years earlier too. Doh.
Incredible work as always!
You missed Space Fleet released in 1991, which several years later was re-released with different game mechanics as Battle Fleet Gothic. You also missed Mighty Empires 1990 1Ed.
My brother and I along with 4 friends, would frequently get together to play Space Marine 1Ed with Adeptus Titanicus then updated to SM 2Ed; Mighty Empires and Space Fleet. Between the 6 of us we had 1x Space Marine 1Ed, 3x Space Marine 2Ed and 12+ Regiment boxes, 3x Adeptus Titanicus. Our Epic battlefield covered the entire living room floor and took both Saturday and Sunday to complete, either playing as two teams, three teams or 6 versus.... with the amount of models being tabled, it truly was epic devastion.
Still can't believe Warmaster never had a boxed set
That's true! I didnt even think about that!
It had boxed armies that contained the rulebook. Think it worked out that the book was free, due to the savings.
A very informative video. Disappointingly I remember most of those. Didn't play all by any means but feel that Necromunda and Warcry are two games with super models and great support. Worth following.
I have played quite a lot of them sinxe the early 90'a, and I love warcry! I've never played much Necromunda though, don't know why really.
An a teen I used to visit the very first games worshop store here in Nottingham, good to see that they are now making piles of cash and reaching massive amounts of people. specially in the USA.
I was on a 15 year hobby break when 1st edition AoS came out and I can't believe it went so long without points before 2nd edition!? mental!
I know! It's crazy right!? I didn't get into AoS until about a year ago, its good now.
I was just thinking about these fighting fantasy books. I had about 4 or 5 of these as a kid but couldn't remember what they were called. Thanks very much for reminding me and bringing back such childhood memories. I'll have to see if I can buy any on Ebay
GW also released Speed Freeks in 2018 featuring space ork buggies and bikes? I guess that's an impactful game since it introduced 5 new models to the 40k ork roster.
Great video! 7th edition was not the first time there was a dedicated psychic phase in 40k; 2nd edition had it's own psychic phase as well!
In 1987 i walked into my local game store looking to buy some historical miniatures.
Instead i walked out with a new Sci-Fi RPG game called "Rogue Trader".
Ive been an off and on player since then.
These days im playing Kill Team & Horus Heresy.
Im patiently waiting for new editions of Warhammer Fantasy, Space Hulk, Epic 40k, and Battlefleet Gothic.
Thank you very much for that overview 👍greetings from Germany 😎😊
Dungeonquest (1987). One of my all time favourites and a game I stil play today
You didn't mention probably my favorite Skirmish game Warhammer the old west. It was awesome...had killteam feel. Great video though, gotta love the nostalgia.
I have played Gamesworkshop-games since the late 70's; back then, Gamesworkshop was working with CITADEL and they produced several "GEMS" of games, like; The fury of Dracula(which has reappeared several times in the past decennia), Dungeonquest, Kings and things, Talisman(which had also several make-overs through the years), Lords of the realm and a hilarious card-game called "Chaos Marauders"...
All very entertaining games and I would like to see any(besides Fury of Dracula and Talisman) of those re-printed or re-made...
I started collecting Warhammer models when there was just four shops. London York and I think Edinburgh.
Really pleased to see you mention Warhammer Ancients. It was a really important piece of community engagement for GW, as it was a way to connect older games who’d started in the early 80s back with the company. GW had a pretty poor reputation with that group (not always deserved) but it was a way of saying, we respect you aren’t interested in sci if anymore, but look how fun our rules can still be in a historical setting.
I entered the hobby at 4th edition FB as a 13yo - great memories and that box set had cardboard buildings and templates inside
Similar to myself then! It's nice to look back, isn't it. 😀 Empire and Undead for me!
@@BroadswordWargaming hahaha i went all Orc mad because i also had Heroquest and used the orcs and firmir from HQ and its expansion sets to build up a green skin army with the 4th ed goblins
Ive gotta say I loved Mordheim. Still a big favourite and I have so many great memories coming into the hobby with the release of3rd ed of 40k. Thanks for the great history lesson Oliver! Much appreciate all the effort pt into these videos :)
I hope when we get to a heroquest we get ‘Brodeswode!’
Don’t know if anyone has mentioned these games but there was the Judge Dredd board game and RPG, Rogue Trooper board game and Chainsaw warrior.
Late 80's - early 90's GW customer here. Entry point was Talisman (2nd ed).
Nice video, thank you. I miss Speed Freeks, GW‘s Orc vehicle game.
Rogue Trader had a dedicated Psychic phase right back in 1st Ed.
OH, thanks or the clarity! It was hard finding all the information about everything. Rogue Trader was about a year before I started.
I still have my original edition of Warhammer. Complete with the form for a free miniature of Thorgrim Braindim. Wonder if GW would honour that offer still!
Haha, probably not. 🤣
Good catch with Space Crusade and Heroquest, but what about Battlemasters? That Empire cannon has been a staple in my empire army for literally decades.... ohh and lost patrol....
Excellent catch on confrontation...
I feel this video would have been better chronologically so we could see the company change over time... So much work on research but a slip at execution with random year jumping.
Please do video games next (but chronologically)
Great catcher on Battlemasters!
I did try (and did an edit) Cronologically, but it was really hard to follow! 😔 It added a lot of extra talk to the video, which made it over 45 mins.. I then gave up.
I also did an edit starting with all the major games, but it meant a lot of people would probably click off before they saw the cool ones! It's always tough to make edit decisions.
I hope you enjoyed it though! 😀
I will probably do a video game one, just for fun, so fear not!
Very fair points, it would be longer chronologically.... I really liked the video so thanks for making it and I will look forward to the video games episode.
I was under the impression that Kill Team was a faithful adaptation of 40K in 40 minutes..
Brilliant vid tho, loved this!
Jeez ,what a list ,well done sir
Thanks! I hope you enjoyed it!
how did you miss Trolls in the pantry?! a classic. Necromunda had a sort of second edition in 2003 called Necromunda Underhive, but it was not very popular and the re-sculpted models were not that great
Ah, I didn't do all of the board games, just because there were so many! I probably could have squeezed it in though, it was a classic! 😀
The Trolls in the Pantry fan club checking in, can’t forget the tape of “silly songs”
15:52 those rules should come back. They’re great. Also they kept the old world characters.
What happened to warhammer Roleplay ? I know I had that in 1988
There was also Forces of Fantasy before warhammer version 2
Had all the starting Regiments or Renown. Like Bugmans and Gromm the paunch
Kings and things and chain saw warrior I remember too
Indeed there was/is warhammer roleplay. I didn't want to go into all rpgs/board games as we'd be here forever. 😀 it's licensed to loads of companies too, so gets a bit too confusing to follow. 😀
Not played it though!
It’s a pretty big omission really. It is tightly woven in with the first editions of WFB (and 40k even), not to mention the Enemy Within campaign was voted best rpg campaign of all time. Pretty big fact to leave out….
It could have easily been mentioned as a lead up to HeroQuest and Warhammer Quest. The licencing is pretty straight forward too. I mean, you could’ve just read out the first 3 lines in the Wikipedia entry….
Great video mate!
One game ya overlooked was "speed freeks" maybe intentional since it was just a way to release The new buggies 😁😎
Great video, thanks. I loved, Chainsaw Warrior ,not sure when that was
Thank you , Oli'
🐺
Great list, understandable why some omissions where made, as there have been so many games from GW. Poor Lost Patrol, got lost again 😀
All started with Dark future for me, way back in the 80's... which just makes me feel aged!
Glad you mentioned 40K 3rd edition, Warmaster, Epic 40,000, WFB 6th edition, Space Hulk 2nd edition, and Betrayal at Calth games that I think are the best that GW brought to the world.
Id add the 2nd ed 40k supplement "dark millenium".. also deathwatch overkill boxed game (which i love)
I collected them as a pre teen in mid 90s and then took it back up about three years ago and had no idea there were this many games. 🤯
So many! This doesn't even go into the licensed board games! They've been busy. 😀
Every time I see that 1st edition space hulk box I have regrets of selling mine along with the death wing and gene stealer expansions for way less than I should have.
Some great memories in here.
Good video. Forgot to talk about 4th Edition of Epic aka Epic: Armageddon from 2003 and Epic: Swordwind from 2004 under Specialist Games and Fanatic.
Isn't that some weird pdf download only? Didn't really count that as an actual release.
I'm sooo old I remember it all from the 1st edition Warhammer!
Great video! I stopped playing around 2001 for 12 or 13 years, didn't realise how much I'd missed 😂
Great stuff! I'm fascinated by what it must have been like at Games Workshop in those early days in the 80s. And I was unaware of Full Tilt and the Ork Bar Brawl games in WD! Those should be fun to look up. I'm also encouraged to hear they're bringing The Old World back, as it's my favorite setting and Age of Sigmar just doesn't do it for me. I continue to hope against hope that they'll do something new with the Southlands instead of just keeping it as a copy-paste of Lustria.
Thank you for this history video!!
Our pleasure!
I can't see anyone mentioning Deathwatch Overkill (2016) - an asymmetric boardgame, slightly resembling Space Hulk.
Great composite of GW history!
I wish i could browse from start to finnish all of the whitw dwarf catalogue
I got you bro! th-cam.com/video/gL3ZCavzXIQ/w-d-xo.html
I did a video looking back at some classic old magazines!
I still remember getting the 5th edition boxset with my brother, he was Bretonnians and I was Lizardmen.
Gonna Watch this later! Can't Wait!
I could swear Kill Team first had rules in the 6th or 7th edition rule book before it became a separate game. I remember it was such a big hit at our club back in the day we were the first in our area to actually run a tournament. We discovered Lootaz were VERY broken in KT. HEH
Yeah, it was hard to find its true starting place. We had a few killteam style games, but not EXACT killteam. It's the one I struggled with!
I think we just made our own rules up haha
@@BroadswordWargaming I actually may have the old rulebook in my garage. Let me take a look and I'll get back to you with a page number. I think there were weird floaty "kill team" rules in 4th and 5th edition too, but I think I may have lost those rulebooks in a move or something.
@@BroadswordWargaming I found my 5th, 6th, and 7th edition books and I couldn't find it so my memory is abandoning me, it wasn't in a main rulebook. All this digging is making me think the rules may have been in an expansion booklet that had extra missions, which could have been for 6th edition.
Didn’t it start with Shadow War: Armageddon before evolving into Kill Team? I’ve got the shadow war book and counters. Pretty sure they did a one off box from memory?
Kill team started using the 3rd edition rules. It was introduced by a specialist monthly game magazine who's editor was called Paul 'Fat Bloke Sawyer'.
What about Chainsaw Warrior, Talisman, Judge Dredd roleplaying, Rogue Trooper, Railway Rivals, Apocalypse, Warrior Knights and Car Wars? I remember playing all of these in the mid 80s. Plus i think there were games featuring a mummy, a vampire, cowboys, some aliens and The Dr., but not all at the same time!
Yeah, a few absolute classics in there. :) I did mention Talisman as I used to play that a lot and think it was a defining game!
Although, I also said I wouldn't do all the board games/licensed games (as it'd turn it into a million hour video!), and no one wants that these days!
This was a amazingly good video, probely the best one you done for a long time, and i do think this is stuff most warhammer fans love to hear about
Great compendium!
Warrior Knights.
Cosmic Encounters.
Chainsaw Warrior.
Talisman.
Heroquest. (Brodeswode).
Advanced Heroquest.
You forgot DungeonBowl as part of the Bloodbowl Segment! Also Aeronautica has had multiple editions as a standalone game
Good you mentioned the original creators associated with each game.
Overall, I feel MORDHEIM was the peak of Games Workshop design for TT:
* Smaller squads was more affordable
* Mixed TT Battles with Story-RPG Campaigns
* Smaller scale or higher resolution added more "human" drama (!) to each contest eg veterans (with injuries)
* The setting led to great terrain potential
BLOODBOWL also stands the test of time as a gamesystem with a lot of legs too.
For sure the lore and world-building of Warhammer/WH40K stand out and probably excel more than the actual army battles.
All the above said, looking at the modern iterations: It all feels less DIY/Hobby/Passion and more commercial sales carefully calculated to sell.
You missed Force of Fantasy (warhammer 1st army list) and Ravin Hordes (Warhammer 2nd Ed Army lists)
Battlefleet Gothic is my all time favorite GW game and I seriously hate that they cut it adrift.
I wonder if we will see it back? 😀
@@BroadswordWargaming If we do then in true GW fashion none of the old models will be usable and the price point will be ridiculous.
You forgot Necromunda 2003 edition. It was their 2nd edition. With new models and rewriting some of the rules.
Grew up with Talisman. My step cousin had it when I visited my dad with my step mom. I remember playing a lot of cozy afternoons with it. The expansions got a bit goofy but man the memories are great. Too bad the third edition was a big stinky pile. But FFG really turned it around with gorgeous art and minis.
I dabbled when I was younger (but mainly played HeroQuest and Space Crusade), but had some good times. I never played third edition, was it that bad!? I had a good evening playing the latest edition though recently. 😀