@@gaaralvr4695 between environmental, economic and familial collapse, I can't understand why anyone would WANT to have children. Where are these children going to get drinking water when they're 50?
@@ScarletCandlelight see if there are local therapist interns (MFTs, LCSWs, etc) that are in the midst of collecting hours. On their path to 3000 clinical hours, there are interns that are actually extremely experienced and talented, and they will charge much less because they are still collecting hours for licensing. The other option is to use online therapy services like Better Help, they charge less than normal therapist do.
Charlie’s death was one of the most memorable movie scenes I’ve ever seen. The marketing for this movie was genius for making it seem like she was going to be the main character throughout the movie. I don’t think many people could’ve seen it coming
I couldn’t agree more, I went into it expecting Charlie to be a very important character and Peter to be just another teenage background character but damn was I wrong, what an excellent movie, it threw every curb ball I could’ve never seen coming
@@millarayzamorano9047 me tooo, especially that he didn't speak much and he was staring at his classmate's booty in the beginning. I though "oh, so that's our douchy horny teenager who's gonna die later on", cause horror movies made me used to this trope. But when Charlie died I was shocked because i didn't see it coming and even after that I kept thinking Peter was going to die. This movie is just so special.
Honestly the character I feel bad the most in this movie is Steve. He was the most emotionally healthy person in the family who was trying to do damage control, but he kept getting pushed away. And how suddenly he was killed in the movie made me really sad, because even though he's part of the family, he was treated like he's just some inconsequential existence and a bystander that is easily taken out by the cult. But of course that's because he's not part of Ellen's bloodline.
You are so right, I felt awful for him. Charlie is just as much his daughter and he must have been grieving too, but in that scene you see him comforting his wife silently. During the argument he intervenes and tries to keep the peace at the table. He is putting his own needs and emotions on hold so he can be there for his wife and son. Poor Steve.
To me he was very weak and he made no attempt to understand his family. He was supposedly Annie's therapist before she married him, so apparently he didn't do a good job.
Real Dimensional Pictures has a great essay and in it he states that the movie might have punished him for his passivity. Despite suspecting his wife was heading into a mental breakdown, he did nothing to stop it (tell her to go to therapy, get her to stop distancing herself, etc.) and only berated her after she does break down (right after which he is burned). That, along with him notably acting like an outsider to his own family, made him passive in the face of evil, in the same way bystanders in bullying are morally implicated for their passivity. I haven’t watched Hereditary, as I’m sure I would probably not make it out without needing therapy of my own, but Real Dimension Pictures makes a cool case for why he’s not exactly as clean as his normal bloodline may suggest. All in all, I’m inclined to agree with Real Dimension Pictures. My own dad was very passive in my brother and I’s fights with our mother. Despite his lack of baggage and general nonabusive treatment of us, his passivity in the face of my mother’s clear mental issues and abusive treatment, as well as his lack of effort to connect to us as a family was its own form of neglect.
It's a good movie for analysing generational trauma, repression, and abuse. It can definitely be overcome, but you need to remove yourself from harmful people and environments, accept your responsibility for you growth, and do the work. It becomes infinitely more difficult to do this when you've already begun to repeat the cycle, but it's not impossible.
The daughter's death and grieving/funeral scenes are so well done that after watching the film 8 times it's still affecting, even knowing the scene is coming. And that Toni Collette could carry the film on her shoulders while performing all that suffering without overacting shows why she's one of the greatest of this generation (and criminally underrated, being barely considered for that awards season).
@@alexsilva28 I think I've watched it about 5 times, you gotta give it a second watch! You notice the hints about the end so much more little things you didn't notice
@@GoDrinkNailPolish yeah! i loved the first classroom scene, when they talk about a Greek tragedy where the characters have no say in what happens to them therefore making it even more painful ...which is exactly what ends up happening to the family! (But we don't pay attention because Peter is watching his lady friend and texting about pot 😂😂)
I thought Hereditary was a masterpiece and Toni Collette was robbed of her rightful Best Actress Oscar, but you'd have to pay me at least $100 to watch it again. I'm so happy I didn't get it spoiled for me before I saw it because my jaw was on the floor when *it* happened, and as someone from a dysfunctional repressed family as well, I probably wouldn't have watched it if I had known what it was really about
Rynthia seriously it kinda made a lot of repressed things come out. I wasn’t just disturbed by the imagery, but messed up by the mirror held up lol *sweats nervously*. It’s about inheriting familial trauma.
I also would like to point out that while Steve is burned to death, Annie's expression goes from utter horror to... nothing. Probably a representation of disassociation. The last trauma she endured that sent her mind away. That's when her "controlled" part is taken over by the demons from her past. After this, Annie is no longer under her own control, and is full blown toxic and demoniac.
That’s the moment paimon enters her body. The conceit is that the demon actually exists, it’s not just a psychological problem, but a supernatural one.
Lol, yeah I always do wonder why cute-looking and superficially -appearing, young, sadistically sociopathic women are always casts for these kind of youtube-presentator jobs...
@TK Wallace and any conflicts with compassion are business decisions, not ad libs. People ask for comments to boost engagement metrics, not because they're cruel and irreverent
That’s not a simple process though. Cutting out a family member, esp a mother, is incredibly difficult. And therapy that unpacks all that trauma could take years. These things would have obviously been better for her and her family, but the decision to do those things isn’t readily apparent or easy.
That's an easy thing to say, but a very very very hard thing to do, especially if you are the person living through it. This is why sometimes when you give ppl what you think are good advices they may turn it down, sometimes for good reason, reason that you might not know about. Just saying.
The Academy’s hatred of horror films robbed Toni of her award. (They could’ve done what they did with Silence of The Lambs and dub the film a “psychological thriller”)
Connor Rohan hun silence of the lambs is definitely a horror movie you act like movies can’t be more than one genre ever heard of psychological horror?
Hereditary and The VVitch were responsible for bringing back the slow burns and in depth analysis in the horror genre. Both films can be seen through many lenses and are so well written that it makes it possible to rewatch many times without feeling boring.
I agree, it’s such an improvement over the last “scary” movies of the decade. I also like to think the subversive horror of Get Out also had a hand in horror’s shift to less jumpy, in your face scares.
@@awakealot9 Oh absolutely! Some people don't like Jordan Peele but one things is for such. He brought something new to the genre! Get out! And US feel very refreshing and even though the last one is not everyone's cup of tea it definitely feels like something new! I think that's the most important thing in art, when an artist make something unique in a very saturated genre. Plus I like watching "black horror genre" Is very interesting watching through that perspective.
I know that my father was abused and I had hoped that he would break the chain and not treat my sister and I the same. I was wrong. When dealing with all of the anger from my own trauma (of medical issues and his abuse) I realised I was turning into him. Something I hated. Except I did something he didn't and took responsibility for it, and the efforts to change my way. It's been a long 7 years but I was able to climb out of my anxiety and depression, and understand who I am (Also in this movie I felt SO SORRY for Peter. The poor guy was just dragged into this mess)
Brother, I’m genuinely proud of you. Breaking the cycle, and becoming a role model is the only way this destructiveness can be resolved. This is what a real man is.
It's an Alright movie tbh. But scary? Meh not to me honestly, but then again not really a lot of movies that honestly scare me. Smart theming or not. In my honest opinion the best I could say about this movie is it's smartly written. Which is just as good.
Toni Collette's performance of grief after finding Charlie's body blew me away. I had tears in my eyes and it sent a shiver down my spine and I still think about it sometimes. It was maybe the best representation of raw, painful, frustrating grief I've ever seen in a movie
The whole “mothers as horror villains” genre gives me shortness of breath and makes my throat close lol. I can’t watch Carrie for that same reason. It’s a great genre to analyze sociologically-mothers often inflict psychological damage on their children, just as they got it from *their* mothers and their mothers, and so on. Speaks to the societal role of mothers and women in general. Often to deal with the trauma society throws our way b/c of our gender, we just repress, but then we (un)intentionally transfer that pain to other women as well. Fascinating
@Kevin I get it, and it's true that society is cruel to men too, but for once could a comment about the stresses society puts on women not have another comment immediately saying "yes, but men have it more difficult so you don't get to express your problems".
@@CottonCandySharks THIS. That is exactly what my first comment was meant to be about, how incredibly far this guy has missed the point of the original comment.
@Kevin @Kevin That's wrong on several levels. The stoic male is a modern construct. Anyone who has studied history has learned men of the past were emotional and proud to show said emotion. Every epic poem, every story of battle, every tale of victory contains men who cry, who grieve, who fear, who aren't afraid to show their humanity. They also love, their families, their friends, their spouses. It wasn't shameful for a man to show his weaknesses alongside his strengths in the past. The focus on that started very recently in human terms. Also, the idea that women didn't go on hunts is preposterous. Every able member of a group went along for the hunt. Tribes and ancient societies could not have survived once their men went off to fight if their women couldn't sustain the community by themselves and hadn't learned and practiced how to hunt for food on their own. And deal with mortal danger regularly? Are you forgetting childbirth, which is something rarely a woman would escape, while a man could go his entire life without seeing battle? And abductions, mass rapes and murders during wartimes fatally affected women - and children, which supposedly don't even have a role except being children - just as much as the men fighting. Men and women cooperated in every step of their lives before the industrial revolution - especially the common individual. And while legally they didn't have the same privileges, they certainly had the same obligations. This is what modern media does, it shapes a fake idea of humankind as being two separate sides with specific roles, when the only real thing that separates genders is the act of giving birth. That's the ONLY thing one side does that the other can't do. Yet.
The daughters death scene has to be one of the worst things in any movie ever. You literally see it coming kind of but totally differently. Killing a kid off in such a horrific way I feel is something even horror movies go to seldom. It haunts me and I literally had to pause and scream when I saw it. It hurt me as if I was her mother, as if I was the son driving and as if I was the child whose life just was ended in such a way. I have never seen something like it ever
I remember sitting in the movie theater watching this with my daughter sitting next to me. That scene, and the one after it with mom finding the body was scarier to me than anything in the end of the movie. Hugged my daughter so hard after the movie was over.
The father died even though he wasn't a part of this hereditary toxicity. He paid for having married into this family. I wish they explored this part more in the movie
Arguing for the sake of arguing but I think they did explain what happens to 2nd parties that aren't connected by blood pretty well. The dad did his very best to be the voice of reason and protect his son and even Annie, being able to see everything in a more "objective bystander" kind of way from having not known the full truth about Annie's childhood. But in the end he pays for his involvement. Blood or not, toxicity is toxicity. You try to stop that fire from expanding, you get burned all the same.
Well, of course, he actually does decide to put a stop to it, refuses to burn the book, and is going to call the police when his wife grabs the book from his hands and throws it in the fire herself, which is what kills him.
I personally think that when growing up with a messed up parent you can either build up bad habits because of it or you somehow are lucky and find out what exactly is wrong with them.
I’d say both are also likely outcomes. I have messed up parents from their own messed up parents. Both of my parents had parents who had narcissistic behaviors and dealt with abuse (emotional and physical). Once those grandparents passed on and the abuses stopped my parents got a lot better. My moms done a 180 and I’m v proud.
The only horror film that scares me shitless to this day. Although, this video really taught me what the film is actually about, and I can't help but feel like I'm much less scared of the paranormal parts of it, and much more terrified of the real issues of a dysfunctional family.
The human mind, and how many humans just walk around "functional" in society--more like, they're walking around with *coping mechanism waiting to break*--is more horrifying than paranormal myths. The "unknown" of paranormal phenomena is more or less unproven and uknowable (as it stands right now), but we KNOW what happens when a human being breaks or has a violent psychotic break. We've seen it, we've read about it, many of us have witnessed it--it becomes quite scary.
Right when the video talked about the mother sleepwalking with paint thinner and matches, I got an add for Behr paints. Gotta love that Google Adsense! 🤣
Hereditary is a very good film. It’s also profoundly disturbing. This was the one movie that was truly difficult for me to watch in a theater. Toni Collette’s blood curdling screams alone made me so uncomfortable. To say that she was robbed of an Academy Award would be an understatement.
This movie exceeded my expectations by 150%. Especially the car accident scene that took me (and many others) completely off guard. The acting was just so good you could almost feel exactly what this family was going through. 11 of out 10.
Hereditary is one of the very few movies that has disturbed me to my core, simply because I could see my own family refracted in the Grahams My mother is very short tempered and is often highly critical, and my father tends to enable. Growing up I used to think I had nothing in common with my parents, but as an adult I can see them in my own personality. I remember times when I was being yelled at I would cocoon myself like Peter does after Charlie’s death; and I could imagine if I had caused my own sisters death I would probably do the same thing. This film made me realize how an unhealthy relationship with our family can lead to the problems in our future, and confronting them and being honest is how we move on from them. I have talked to my mom about her behavior and I try not to lean on my dad so much, but there is still so much work left to do.
I saw this movie by myself whilst coming down from shrooms, wanted to see what all the fuss was about. It took a 6pack to get to sleep that night, and I barely spoke the following few days as I silently processed wtf I just put myself through.
Toni should’ve won that Oscar. This is why I don’t watch the awards because the elite few decide what is worthy of recognition and they’re stuck in a tradition of excluding art that dares to be different.
This is movie is so relatable. Mental illness and abuse run in my family. My great-grandma was abused and developed depression. My grandma was abused and developed depression. My mom was abused and developed depression. And I was physically abused by my mom and my stepdad sexually abused me. In my dad's family, all of my four uncles died. Death and Despair run in my family. It is almost as if a demon from the depths of hell put a curse on my family. The abuse, the despair stop with me. I am going to do my best to be a kind, empathetic, and happy person. Also, I thought long and hard about it I am not having kids. I really need peace and quiet.
This could explain why I have so many problems and why they don't resolve completely since I'm the only family member that is trying to resolve them My mother makes our lives a living hell while my father don't confront her with fear of what would happen and my opinion is not heard by any of them
Fuck all that move out and focus on yourself, leave it all behind, can't fix jack shit because they see you still clinging, rise above, or do stuff you ultimately like and helps you
Chepe Santacruz Londoño I got so scared when I turned off my fucking lights because I coulda swore I keep hearing the “Clock” nose the girl does when its silent
Months later I still find myself checking each corner of my room sometimes. The way that Annie avoids Peter’s line of sight absolutely shook me. (I may be misremembering, but I remember Peter looking around the room and Annie crawling around the ceiling to be opposite to where he was looking.)
The key word is "possibility". Those with Transgenerational trauma as well as any person who suffers some sort of trauma will have higher chances of PTSD and the like but with support and therapy (and of course time) they have the possibility of healing. Nothing is ever set in stone. I believe each person is their own if they try to be. It may be difficult but if one person succeeds in recovery it would only be inspirational. Each life is different and each recovery pace is of their own. Transgenerational trauma is "what one generation didn't heal that's passed on to the next generation" If the new generation can come to understand the source of the pain (along with its awful history) and confront the repression within them, they can take steps to heal.
My mother is very emotionally detached (many mental illnesses). My father, OTOH, is the complete opposite. I had to sever the relationship with my mother and, once that happened, I was able to begin healing. It often takes very drastic, life-changing decisions, and I think I will always have PTSD to a certain extent. But I think healing can happen depending on how bad you want to heal, honestly. Dropped out of college, financially supported myself, sought therapy, in college now again finally. I think it's 100% possible :)
Please bring back cookie syrup yes! Intergenerational trauma is so real. And it’s a interesting notion. I have dealt with and am still dealing with it and trying to break the chains and cycle. It is also why I worry about becoming a parent and mother; fear of carrying my mothers wounds and hurts that she projected onto me, onto the next generation. Or of swinging in the complete opposite direction and not being a stern enough figure. We must heal ourselves for the betterment of our kids and our children’s future.
THANK YOU for making this! Such a fantastic and thoughtful look at the psychology behind this incredible film. My favorite Wisecrack episode so far, and that really says something because I think you folks are absolutely brilliant. Keep up the awesome work!
I was traumatized for atleast 2 weeks after I watched this movie the first time, but when I went back to watch it a second time a couple weeks ago it just wasn’t as bad at all as I remembered. The first time though the scene where Annie chases Peter into the attic and the scene where she’s above peters bed definitely gave me temporary PTSD.😰😰
when my emotionally distant relatives dies, looking through all their stuff I never got the chance to when they were alive was the first thing I did though. Maybe I'm just a snoop. The most shocking thing I found was some pretty serious hepatitis medication
I have only recently come to terms with having Childhood Emotional Neglect. It has been really helpful for me, to start healing the effects of living in an obscured toxic family.
Part of what also makes some families repressed is that they simply don't have the vocabulary to express what they feel and why, many of them don't know anything whatsoever about human psychology or even just the term trauma tbh
I completely repressed a lot of the uncomfortable stuff from this movie until watching this video reminded me...thanks Wisecrack...😂 I really thought that this was the road the movie was going down until the demon cult stuff took over the narrative. However I see now that the demon cult stuff might have been more of a narrative tool to externalize the internal theme. Annie beheading herself is an analogy to how she had become her own mother but also how she had made Charlie herself.
In the movie the mother is beheading herself because she at the time is possessed by the paimon demon. In order for the demon to transfer bodies he needs an exit.. that’s Charlie and the Mom were beheaded. But yes I also agree with you.
@@tysupreme5563 you're right, that's what's literally happening in that moment, but I was never a fan of the demon possession part of the movie. It seemed like a cop out and weakness the whole story to me. Instead of a movie with the final message being a cautionary tale stressing the importance of dealing with and processing your own past trauma and issues so that you don't doom your children and descendants to the same or worse, I feel like we got an movie who's final message was "None of the characters are responsible for their actions, it was all a demon's fault!" Now that I think about it though, maybe that's the point. The demon possession stuff was weird, but maybe they were getting super Meta. Like at the end of the movie, even the story doesn't want to deal with it's trauma. For example, if the movie had ended vague with Peter in a mental hospital with us the audience unsure if the demon possession stuff really happened, or if it was just how Peter's brain processed the trauma of killing his sister and subsequently having a mental break and killing his parents, he believes that a demon was after his family and it ended up "possessing" him. However vague or not, this ending would have acknowledged the events that occured in the final act as having really happened. Instead the movie itself does the exact same thing that the characters in the movie do. It doesn't take responsibility for the characters in the movie or the acts that are committed, instead it chooses to say that this was all because of demon possession. I acknowledge that I'm probably reading way into it, I was just super disappointed by the demon stuff at the end, I would like this movie a lot more if it didn't end that way.
The film has a lot of visual symbolism pointing to Charlie being a metaphor for a Younger Annie. The movies vertical poster even shows A tree followed by Charlie’s head above it followed by Annie’s head above hers. The implication that like the tree growing upwards, Charlie will grow into Annie. Charlie’s death thus becomes doubly disturbing because it’s not only the literal death of Annie’s daughter, but the symbolic destruction of Annie’s childhood she tried to vicariously relive by giving her daughter to Ellen. Charlie’s abnormal face also serves as a nice visual metaphor for an abused childhood.
Yes. And it's amazing (or distressing) that people can understand generational damage in certain contexts but not in others. I blame the delivery of the message. While valid; entire generations of the children and grandchildren etc of former victims of the "Peculiar Institution" are actively demonstrating severely damaged souls, the spokespeople for understanding that this is a real thing are forcing focus on issues that society in general is not able to deal with. Add to that the willingness of politicians to legislate punitive measures on a demographic based on prejudice and lies and we have a destructive toxic system that reinforces and perpetuates the cycles that lead to a stressed out class of desperate people!
Honestly this movie hit me so hard and the message was so clear that this is the first wisecrack video where I didn't learn anything. Definitely says a lot about my family life growing up. I'm glad I've done the self work to change.
when i saw this movie i was so in awe with the artistic direction of it, the photography and the color palette that i didn't have time to get scared, well, a little scared but a few hours later the scenes kept going through my head and i had to sleep with the lights on.
Do a video please about ready or not and how when marrying someone, they bring with them all the weight of their family and habits and rituals and how essentially not only are you marrying the person, but their family as well and how you should deal with that burden.
I'd really like to see Wisecrack perform a cultural review of horror films and their reaction on the audience. Could it be possible that family oriented individuals, groups, and societies reflect differently when the main element of "good" horror, in this instance, is "family." American horror can be considered vastly different over foreign horror. I've seen a fair share of both but I'm wondering how other people experience and like other horror flicks.I think you can't talk about family without addressing a cultural context. Keep the good videos coming Wisecrack; maybe you can tackle the intricacies of that?
i studied film in university as my minor. a lot of that stuff is really interesting. i had a horror film class that talked about, for instance, the cultural differences between ringu and the american remake the ring and how the japanese version incorporated a lot of elements of japanese folklore that was lost on american audiences, making it more culturally relevant to the japanese people, whereas the american version went more for just the creepiness factor and jump scares. fwiw, i got a's in all my film classes ha. i think i'm gonna start a channel that dives deeper into the cultural implications of horror than most horror channels do, using what i learned in that class as a basis.
@@jakefoster5611 That sounds amazing! I'll definitely be a subscriber and follower if you get it going. The Ring is a perfect example of cultural context shaping the understanding and experience in film and specifically film horror
my family fucking has a history of abuse and not knowing how to raise kids. I was the first person in my family to go to Therapy for emotional illness and have it be an ok thing. the only way to brake the cycle is to admit there is one
this video is SO on point for me. My father recently passed. mourning, communicating with family, contemplation, and inner-monologing. monday morning quarterbcking whatever google says counts as " psycoanalysis". these have all been fairly powerful aspects to my life, inside my experience lately. my recently passed wife of 10 years, she suffered from mental illness her whole life. we chose not to have children because of the very reason you discussed. and its quite concievable to write up a huge list of reasons my father ruined my existence, and just as well , all others around him but love is impossible. its hard to argue with that. by which i mean, love is magical. its divine. and with love, comes the great gift of grace. understanding. and awareness that we all suffer
@Ray Moorhouse - I know this was an older post, but I read your comment. As a wife with multiple autoimmune diseases and mental illness who is also not having kids for the same reason, thank you for supporting your wife's belief/opinion. I'm lucky in that my husband agrees, but many men out there don't - they're so hellbent on "carrying on the line." Anyway. I also wanted to say I am so, so sorry for both of your losses. As one internet stranger to another - please accept my hug for as long as you need.
I've enjoyed the return of these slow burn, indie horror movies. The Babadook, The VVich, The Lighthouse, It Comes At Night, ect. But... I don't know what it is but for some reason Ari Aster movies don't do anything for me. Like, I get the message he's going for in Hereditary and Midsommar (its kind of hard not to get it tbh they are heavy handed movies), but I don't find them particularly scary or entertaining.
I found them entertaining, but yeah, not so scary. I think that's just because the stuff in movies like Hereditary is very real, and the logical down-to-earth explanation for why these things are happening is already there if you want to accept it - and if it's not truly supernatural in nature, then you know that there is ways to beat or overcome it. That is what makes that sort of stuff less scary IMO.
This might be the first time I ever actually worried about spoiling a movie by watching Wise Crack, and thank god I did. That car accident really sticks with you. And I had no clue who Toni Collette was but she was absolutely perfect. Alex Wolff definitely deserves attention as well.
I felt so sorry for charlie. She didn't want to interrupt her brother's mingling eventhough she was choking with peanut allergies. Then him gently carrying her and having that hopeless dark ride. Then to hear their mom scream her heart out. It destroyed me. Loved the movie but doubt I'll rewatch, I was so tense and anxious lmao.
I thought for days about what I would do if I was Peter in the situation with his sisters death. And I still don’t know. I don’t know how I could live with myself I don’t know how I would tell my parents I think I would strongly consider driving the car towards the next tree I don’t think I would be able to call police or my parents. My sister is the most important person in my life if I was responsible for hurting her I would literally not be able to live. God thanks wisecrack now I’m sweating and horrified again damn
When I first watched it I was shocked that he went home, but when I really thought about it, and the manner in which she died, I realized might’ve done the same thing, or at least just stayed on that spot motionless until someone came. But I certainly wouldn’t be able to call my parents and tell them what I’ve done. Him doing that and not sleeping a wink all night was some sick but honest writing.
Probably state of shock like the brother was in the movie. iirc there was a real occurence of two brothers in their 40 coming back from a get together and one was decapitated in the same fashion. The surviving brother just went to bed aswell and discovered the body in the morning. They were both very drunk, though.
Sorry// the scary thing for me is if I did this, I would’ve done the same thing as Peter did. Except I would’ve called the police.. But I don’t think I would’ve been able to tell my parents. We’re not close like that. My family is sorta - ish like the family in the movie. Don’t know how to communicate or don’t feel comfortable doing it. Repress repress repress!
this movie really hit the spot for me. especially knowing about how trauma gets passed on both through familiy bonds AND genetics. meaning that many people really are cursed from birth with their parent's traumas. such an effective movie.
Man, this movie was already so good but videos like this elevate it to something next level. I never would have noticed all of these amazingly minute details.
Great analysis. Really enhances what was already a densely thematic movie. I'm not sure I can watch this again since having a daughter. But damn what a great movie
I feel the loops and cycle can change if one can take out time to actually feel through the trauma and make ammends, the thing is the trauma rises up once you just sit at a place without doing anything.
The scene where charlie gets decapitated and peter just returns to his house and doesnt know what to do... man that haunted me for days
I have PTSD after watching this
The screaming from the mother is so painful. Really sad.
I can’t fathom how Toni Collette channeled shock and grief so effectively.
@@UATU. I wonder if Toni collette actually had to react to a beheaded dummy of charlie?
@@sparkonyx1075 I wonder if she had to imagine seeing her own children decapitated. I know Brian Cranston did something like that
Can’t pass on my family trauma if I never have kids
This is the true galaxy brain take. I'm getting a vasectomy next month
I think you're joking, but at the same time I feel like this is an actual reason a lot of people are deciding not to have children.
Always knew we were cursed so my bro and I never had children.
@@gaaralvr4695 between environmental, economic and familial collapse, I can't understand why anyone would WANT to have children. Where are these children going to get drinking water when they're 50?
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This movie was a public service announcement to remind us we can go get therapy
Yes.
Wish I could afford it.
@@ScarletCandlelight see if there are local therapist interns (MFTs, LCSWs, etc) that are in the midst of collecting hours. On their path to 3000 clinical hours, there are interns that are actually extremely experienced and talented, and they will charge much less because they are still collecting hours for licensing. The other option is to use online therapy services like Better Help, they charge less than normal therapist do.
@@izzyxblades oh alright I will look at that
We need to tax the super-rich more in order to fund free mental health therapy for everyone. They can afford it!
Charlie’s death was one of the most memorable movie scenes I’ve ever seen. The marketing for this movie was genius for making it seem like she was going to be the main character throughout the movie. I don’t think many people could’ve seen it coming
yeah, particularly Charlie...
And that fucking ants on her face was so terrifying 😨😨
@@giovannirescia89 Lolololol
I couldn’t agree more, I went into it expecting Charlie to be a very important character and Peter to be just another teenage background character but damn was I wrong, what an excellent movie, it threw every curb ball I could’ve never seen coming
@@millarayzamorano9047 me tooo, especially that he didn't speak much and he was staring at his classmate's booty in the beginning. I though "oh, so that's our douchy horny teenager who's gonna die later on", cause horror movies made me used to this trope. But when Charlie died I was shocked because i didn't see it coming and even after that I kept thinking Peter was going to die. This movie is just so special.
'You inherit your parents' trauma but you will never fully understand it"
Passing on your burdens is a part of life, unfortunately. That’s one of the main reasons why I will NEVER have kids.
@@astoldbynickgerr Thats pretty dumb, mate.
@@galek75 That's the substitute in our society for natural selection,
@@joshuaizly5502 Sounds about right
@Caleb Huskey which one of us is that?
We all know Toni Collette's oscar snub proves the academy isn't smart.
I totally agree.
She was one of the most terrifying parts of the entire movie. Gave me chills.
It's not stupidity, it's politics.
@@josephmorris3778 which is just a different type of stupid. Politics is brilliantly stupid a lot of the times.
All the award shows have been bullshit circle-jerks for decades.
Honestly the character I feel bad the most in this movie is Steve. He was the most emotionally healthy person in the family who was trying to do damage control, but he kept getting pushed away. And how suddenly he was killed in the movie made me really sad, because even though he's part of the family, he was treated like he's just some inconsequential existence and a bystander that is easily taken out by the cult. But of course that's because he's not part of Ellen's bloodline.
Yeah, he could easily be a friend, or some counselor, hard to see him as husband and father because he felt dislocated inside the family.
You are so right, I felt awful for him. Charlie is just as much his daughter and he must have been grieving too, but in that scene you see him comforting his wife silently. During the argument he intervenes and tries to keep the peace at the table. He is putting his own needs and emotions on hold so he can be there for his wife and son. Poor Steve.
To me he was very weak and he made no attempt to understand his family. He was supposedly Annie's therapist before she married him, so apparently he didn't do a good job.
Real Dimensional Pictures has a great essay and in it he states that the movie might have punished him for his passivity.
Despite suspecting his wife was heading into a mental breakdown, he did nothing to stop it (tell her to go to therapy, get her to stop distancing herself, etc.) and only berated her after she does break down (right after which he is burned). That, along with him notably acting like an outsider to his own family, made him passive in the face of evil, in the same way bystanders in bullying are morally implicated for their passivity.
I haven’t watched Hereditary, as I’m sure I would probably not make it out without needing therapy of my own, but Real Dimension Pictures makes a cool case for why he’s not exactly as clean as his normal bloodline may suggest.
All in all, I’m inclined to agree with Real Dimension Pictures. My own dad was very passive in my brother and I’s fights with our mother. Despite his lack of baggage and general nonabusive treatment of us, his passivity in the face of my mother’s clear mental issues and abusive treatment, as well as his lack of effort to connect to us as a family was its own form of neglect.
The whole time, I was just thinking, "Damn, maybe he should just ship off of this family and go start a new life somewhere else." lol
To clarify: trauma doesn't change your DNA but instead it add chemical markers to already existing DNA and those markers are passed down.
Epigenetics, nice
...
Good to know.
Anyways to get rid of them
Damn these methyl groups go crazy 😜
It's a good movie for analysing generational trauma, repression, and abuse. It can definitely be overcome, but you need to remove yourself from harmful people and environments, accept your responsibility for you growth, and do the work. It becomes infinitely more difficult to do this when you've already begun to repeat the cycle, but it's not impossible.
Very important point! I wish more movies would adequately demonstrate that work.
THIS!
The daughter's death and grieving/funeral scenes are so well done that after watching the film 8 times it's still affecting, even knowing the scene is coming.
And that Toni Collette could carry the film on her shoulders while performing all that suffering without overacting shows why she's one of the greatest of this generation (and criminally underrated, being barely considered for that awards season).
8 times? Bruh I can't even bring myself to watch it for the second time
@@alexsilva28 I think I've watched it about 5 times, you gotta give it a second watch! You notice the hints about the end so much more little things you didn't notice
@@GoDrinkNailPolish yeah! i loved the first classroom scene, when they talk about a Greek tragedy where the characters have no say in what happens to them therefore making it even more painful ...which is exactly what ends up happening to the family! (But we don't pay attention because Peter is watching his lady friend and texting about pot 😂😂)
I thought Hereditary was a masterpiece and Toni Collette was robbed of her rightful Best Actress Oscar, but you'd have to pay me at least $100 to watch it again. I'm so happy I didn't get it spoiled for me before I saw it because my jaw was on the floor when *it* happened, and as someone from a dysfunctional repressed family as well, I probably wouldn't have watched it if I had known what it was really about
Rynthia seriously it kinda made a lot of repressed things come out. I wasn’t just disturbed by the imagery, but messed up by the mirror held up lol *sweats nervously*. It’s about inheriting familial trauma.
soft
I hate horror movies but strongly suggest Hereditary to anyone who asks. And then laugh at them when they want me to watch it with them.
Hereditary was amazing
Lol same hereditary is my number 1 horror movie but i dont wana watch it ever again
I also would like to point out that while Steve is burned to death, Annie's expression goes from utter horror to... nothing. Probably a representation of disassociation. The last trauma she endured that sent her mind away. That's when her "controlled" part is taken over by the demons from her past. After this, Annie is no longer under her own control, and is full blown toxic and demoniac.
Snap👏🏿
She was possessed... So yea lol
That’s the moment paimon enters her body. The conceit is that the demon actually exists, it’s not just a psychological problem, but a supernatural one.
You could literally see Paimon or some demon taking over her, there is this light the moves that shows it 😒
@@whitesimurgh6363 and it's representative of what op is saying
“Are we all doomed to repeat our family’s dysfunctions? Let us know in the comments! ☺️✌🏼”
Lol, yeah I always do wonder why cute-looking and superficially -appearing, young, sadistically sociopathic women are always casts for these kind of youtube-presentator jobs...
Charlye'Charleston man what the hell
@@maocharlisme Did your mommy hurt you?
@TK Wallace and any conflicts with compassion are business decisions, not ad libs. People ask for comments to boost engagement metrics, not because they're cruel and irreverent
@TK Wallace what an interesting interpretation of my words.
This whole thing could have been avoided if Annie just cut off her toxic mom and got some therapy.
That’s not a simple process though. Cutting out a family member, esp a mother, is incredibly difficult. And therapy that unpacks all that trauma could take years. These things would have obviously been better for her and her family, but the decision to do those things isn’t readily apparent or easy.
@@CaKoMi not that hard so long as you have economic independence.
Razeal Nosgoth Considering how repressed Annie was, it would be hard for her to even recognize that she needed to cut her mom off, much less do it.
That's an easy thing to say, but a very very very hard thing to do, especially if you are the person living through it. This is why sometimes when you give ppl what you think are good advices they may turn it down, sometimes for good reason, reason that you might not know about. Just saying.
True, but the more you study narcissistic family dynamics & the games it can play on the mind, you see how hard that can actually be.
The Academy’s hatred of horror films robbed Toni of her award.
(They could’ve done what they did with Silence of The Lambs and dub the film a “psychological thriller”)
I don't think SOTL is horror imo
Connor Rohan what do you consider it?
@@Mattteus A psychological thriller
Tony P cute :-)
Connor Rohan hun silence of the lambs is definitely a horror movie you act like movies can’t be more than one genre ever heard of psychological horror?
Hereditary and The VVitch were responsible for bringing back the slow burns and in depth analysis in the horror genre. Both films can be seen through many lenses and are so well written that it makes it possible to rewatch many times without feeling boring.
I agree, it’s such an improvement over the last “scary” movies of the decade. I also like to think the subversive horror of Get Out also had a hand in horror’s shift to less jumpy, in your face scares.
@@awakealot9 Oh absolutely! Some people don't like Jordan Peele but one things is for such. He brought something new to the genre! Get out! And US feel very refreshing and even though the last one is not everyone's cup of tea it definitely feels like something new! I think that's the most important thing in art, when an artist make something unique in a very saturated genre. Plus I like watching "black horror genre" Is very interesting watching through that perspective.
"Peter, on the other hand, buries his emotions in a cloud of marijuana smoke". Okay, calm down, you didn't have to call me out like this.
LITERALLY
🤣🤣🤣
I know that my father was abused and I had hoped that he would break the chain and not treat my sister and I the same.
I was wrong. When dealing with all of the anger from my own trauma (of medical issues and his abuse) I realised I was turning into him.
Something I hated.
Except I did something he didn't and took responsibility for it, and the efforts to change my way. It's been a long 7 years but I was able to climb out of my anxiety and depression, and understand who I am
(Also in this movie I felt SO SORRY for Peter. The poor guy was just dragged into this mess)
Brother, I’m genuinely proud of you. Breaking the cycle, and becoming a role model is the only way this destructiveness can be resolved.
This is what a real man is.
Proud of you friend
This movie still haunts me. Being so good, and so freaky.
IKR, it's one of the best horror movies i've ever seen
It's an Alright movie tbh. But scary? Meh not to me honestly, but then again not really a lot of movies that honestly scare me. Smart theming or not.
In my honest opinion the best I could say about this movie is it's smartly written. Which is just as good.
even listening to ReplyAll mini series on horror films was bad enough! ...i had to listen to this video :(
The eldritch horror of this movie is what kept me awake at night
It had me until the ending. They kind of jumped the shark.
Toni Collette's performance of grief after finding Charlie's body blew me away. I had tears in my eyes and it sent a shiver down my spine and I still think about it sometimes. It was maybe the best representation of raw, painful, frustrating grief I've ever seen in a movie
The whole “mothers as horror villains” genre gives me shortness of breath and makes my throat close lol. I can’t watch Carrie for that same reason. It’s a great genre to analyze sociologically-mothers often inflict psychological damage on their children, just as they got it from *their* mothers and their mothers, and so on. Speaks to the societal role of mothers and women in general. Often to deal with the trauma society throws our way b/c of our gender, we just repress, but then we (un)intentionally transfer that pain to other women as well. Fascinating
Mmm, yes!
@Kevin ....yup, cause no woman in history has EVER gotten shit for being "too emotional" or anything...😑
@Kevin I get it, and it's true that society is cruel to men too, but for once could a comment about the stresses society puts on women not have another comment immediately saying "yes, but men have it more difficult so you don't get to express your problems".
@@CottonCandySharks THIS. That is exactly what my first comment was meant to be about, how incredibly far this guy has missed the point of the original comment.
@Kevin @Kevin That's wrong on several levels. The stoic male is a modern construct. Anyone who has studied history has learned men of the past were emotional and proud to show said emotion.
Every epic poem, every story of battle, every tale of victory contains men who cry, who grieve, who fear, who aren't afraid to show their humanity. They also love, their families, their friends, their spouses. It wasn't shameful for a man to show his weaknesses alongside his strengths in the past. The focus on that started very recently in human terms.
Also, the idea that women didn't go on hunts is preposterous. Every able member of a group went along for the hunt. Tribes and ancient societies could not have survived once their men went off to fight if their women couldn't sustain the community by themselves and hadn't learned and practiced how to hunt for food on their own.
And deal with mortal danger regularly? Are you forgetting childbirth, which is something rarely a woman would escape, while a man could go his entire life without seeing battle? And abductions, mass rapes and murders during wartimes fatally affected women - and children, which supposedly don't even have a role except being children - just as much as the men fighting.
Men and women cooperated in every step of their lives before the industrial revolution - especially the common individual. And while legally they didn't have the same privileges, they certainly had the same obligations.
This is what modern media does, it shapes a fake idea of humankind as being two separate sides with specific roles, when the only real thing that separates genders is the act of giving birth. That's the ONLY thing one side does that the other can't do.
Yet.
Toni Collettes screams when she finds Charlie’s body will haunt me for the rest of my life
The daughters death scene has to be one of the worst things in any movie ever. You literally see it coming kind of but totally differently. Killing a kid off in such a horrific way I feel is something even horror movies go to seldom. It haunts me and I literally had to pause and scream when I saw it. It hurt me as if I was her mother, as if I was the son driving and as if I was the child whose life just was ended in such a way. I have never seen something like it ever
@@ElmerGLue I say this this movie was inspired by a lot japanese horror. Specialy by the end.
Hahaha don't live so vicariously through these movies haha
I remember sitting in the movie theater watching this with my daughter sitting next to me. That scene, and the one after it with mom finding the body was scarier to me than anything in the end of the movie. Hugged my daughter so hard after the movie was over.
They do something similar in the movie Midsommar where the movie kind of tells you what's about to happen and then it immediately happens.
That's what makes a good horror movie 😂👌
The father died even though he wasn't a part of this hereditary toxicity. He paid for having married into this family. I wish they explored this part more in the movie
Arguing for the sake of arguing but I think they did explain what happens to 2nd parties that aren't connected by blood pretty well. The dad did his very best to be the voice of reason and protect his son and even Annie, being able to see everything in a more "objective bystander" kind of way from having not known the full truth about Annie's childhood. But in the end he pays for his involvement. Blood or not, toxicity is toxicity. You try to stop that fire from expanding, you get burned all the same.
Well, of course, he actually does decide to put a stop to it, refuses to burn the book, and is going to call the police when his wife grabs the book from his hands and throws it in the fire herself, which is what kills him.
@@littlebunse5 I guess they did address this. He died when Annie threw the book into the fire. He literally paid for someone else's actions
I personally think that when growing up with a messed up parent you can either build up bad habits because of it or you somehow are lucky and find out what exactly is wrong with them.
Yeah. Finding out is closure. Otherwise you have to just chalk it up to general mental health issues and/or a bad growing up depending
I’d say both are also likely outcomes. I have messed up parents from their own messed up parents. Both of my parents had parents who had narcissistic behaviors and dealt with abuse (emotional and physical). Once those grandparents passed on and the abuses stopped my parents got a lot better. My moms done a 180 and I’m v proud.
The only horror film that scares me shitless to this day. Although, this video really taught me what the film is actually about, and I can't help but feel like I'm much less scared of the paranormal parts of it, and much more terrified of the real issues of a dysfunctional family.
The human mind, and how many humans just walk around "functional" in society--more like, they're walking around with *coping mechanism waiting to break*--is more horrifying than paranormal myths.
The "unknown" of paranormal phenomena is more or less unproven and uknowable (as it stands right now), but we KNOW what happens when a human being breaks or has a violent psychotic break. We've seen it, we've read about it, many of us have witnessed it--it becomes quite scary.
Right when the video talked about the mother sleepwalking with paint thinner and matches, I got an add for Behr paints. Gotta love that Google Adsense! 🤣
Hereditary is a very good film. It’s also profoundly disturbing. This was the one movie that was truly difficult for me to watch in a theater. Toni Collette’s blood curdling screams alone made me so uncomfortable. To say that she was robbed of an Academy Award would be an understatement.
wisecrack: families are awful...
Me"trying to watch this video while my sister shouts why I went to her room this morning" you're GODDAMN RIGHT.
so why DID you go to her room this morning? :o
@@eifelitorn mm ;)
This movie exceeded my expectations by 150%. Especially the car accident scene that took me (and many others) completely off guard. The acting was just so good you could almost feel exactly what this family was going through. 11 of out 10.
Hereditary is one of the very few movies that has disturbed me to my core, simply because I could see my own family refracted in the Grahams
My mother is very short tempered and is often highly critical, and my father tends to enable. Growing up I used to think I had nothing in common with my parents, but as an adult I can see them in my own personality. I remember times when I was being yelled at I would cocoon myself like Peter does after Charlie’s death; and I could imagine if I had caused my own sisters death I would probably do the same thing. This film made me realize how an unhealthy relationship with our family can lead to the problems in our future, and confronting them and being honest is how we move on from them. I have talked to my mom about her behavior and I try not to lean on my dad so much, but there is still so much work left to do.
My family lineage ends with me, too many sickos.
I saw this movie by myself whilst coming down from shrooms, wanted to see what all the fuss was about.
It took a 6pack to get to sleep that night, and I barely spoke the following few days as I silently processed wtf I just put myself through.
That’s asking for a bad time
Wow I feel for u! That was an awful decision u made.
I feel for you man, glad thats in the past now
Toni should’ve won that Oscar. This is why I don’t watch the awards because the elite few decide what is worthy of recognition and they’re stuck in a tradition of excluding art that dares to be different.
This is movie is so relatable. Mental illness and abuse run in my family. My great-grandma was abused and developed depression. My grandma was abused and developed depression. My mom was abused and developed depression. And I was physically abused by my mom and my stepdad sexually abused me. In my dad's family, all of my four uncles died. Death and Despair run in my family. It is almost as if a demon from the depths of hell put a curse on my family. The abuse, the despair stop with me. I am going to do my best to be a kind, empathetic, and happy person. Also, I thought long and hard about it I am not having kids. I really need peace and quiet.
This could explain why I have so many problems and why they don't resolve completely since I'm the only family member that is trying to resolve them
My mother makes our lives a living hell while my father don't confront her with fear of what would happen and my opinion is not heard by any of them
Fuck all that move out and focus on yourself, leave it all behind, can't fix jack shit because they see you still clinging, rise above, or do stuff you ultimately like and helps you
Hope by now you have gotten the help you need! No one can heal from the environment that makes you sick! 🤗
A fantastic analysis of the mental health side of Hereditary. This movie has so many layers, its always fun to watch one get peeled back
I saw Hereditary roughly a month after my mother committed not alive and the movie spoke to me and broke me all at once. I love it.
Matt Pinkerton I hope youre doing ok bro I’m really sorry that happened :(
@@adriand1263 that is some excellent looking out, hug.
Checked the corners of my bedroom for weeks after watching this D:
I kept looking up when I was trying to sleep because of the scene where Annie is in the corner above peters bed. That shit was fucking terrifying.
Chepe Santacruz Londoño I got so scared when I turned off my fucking lights because I coulda swore I keep hearing the “Clock” nose the girl does when its silent
Months later I still find myself checking each corner of my room sometimes. The way that Annie avoids Peter’s line of sight absolutely shook me. (I may be misremembering, but I remember Peter looking around the room and Annie crawling around the ceiling to be opposite to where he was looking.)
So, can we actually surpass what we inherited from our families? Or are we doomed to become our parents? Asking for a friend.
@@deathkorpsinfantryman1898 Ok Dr doom.
The key word is "possibility". Those with Transgenerational trauma as well as any person who suffers some sort of trauma will have higher chances of PTSD and the like but with support and therapy (and of course time) they have the possibility of healing. Nothing is ever set in stone. I believe each person is their own if they try to be. It may be difficult but if one person succeeds in recovery it would only be inspirational. Each life is different and each recovery pace is of their own. Transgenerational trauma is "what one generation didn't heal that's passed on to the next generation" If the new generation can come to understand the source of the pain (along with its awful history) and confront the repression within them, they can take steps to heal.
@@cookiesyruplover this is a very beautifully written response, thanks for your insight! ❤️🤗
My mother is very emotionally detached (many mental illnesses). My father, OTOH, is the complete opposite. I had to sever the relationship with my mother and, once that happened, I was able to begin healing. It often takes very drastic, life-changing decisions, and I think I will always have PTSD to a certain extent. But I think healing can happen depending on how bad you want to heal, honestly. Dropped out of college, financially supported myself, sought therapy, in college now again finally.
I think it's 100% possible :)
Please bring back cookie syrup yes! Intergenerational trauma is so real. And it’s a interesting notion. I have dealt with and am still dealing with it and trying to break the chains and cycle. It is also why I worry about becoming a parent and mother; fear of carrying my mothers wounds and hurts that she projected onto me, onto the next generation. Or of swinging in the complete opposite direction and not being a stern enough figure. We must heal ourselves for the betterment of our kids and our children’s future.
I always thought Charlie was possessed from the beginning
THANK YOU for making this! Such a fantastic and thoughtful look at the psychology behind this incredible film. My favorite Wisecrack episode so far, and that really says something because I think you folks are absolutely brilliant. Keep up the awesome work!
I believe once we become aware of our trauma caused by family, we can take steps to break the cycle.
This is easily one of the best videos I've ever watched in my life.
100000000000/10.
Exceptional analysis.
Amazing.
Well done!
I was traumatized for atleast 2 weeks after I watched this movie the first time, but when I went back to watch it a second time a couple weeks ago it just wasn’t as bad at all as I remembered. The first time though the scene where Annie chases Peter into the attic and the scene where she’s above peters bed definitely gave me temporary PTSD.😰😰
All this reminds me of the "sins of the father" in the biblical sense. Without getting metaphysical, it's amazing how well that observation holds up.
when my emotionally distant relatives dies, looking through all their stuff I never got the chance to when they were alive was the first thing I did though. Maybe I'm just a snoop. The most shocking thing I found was some pretty serious hepatitis medication
I've never seen Herdiatary,but I always enjoy the philosophical and psychological breakdowns that you guys do on this channel.
YOU KNOW exactly when during this movie you jaw dropped.
YOU KNOW WHEN.
YOU KNOW.
....
PTSD.
I have only recently come to terms with having Childhood Emotional Neglect. It has been really helpful for me, to start healing the effects of living in an obscured toxic family.
Helen! this is a master class of talking to camera. Perfect! Also the contrast of the horrific film vs your happy voice however :)
I'll never forget the feeling I had leaving the theatre after this movie.
Part of what also makes some families repressed is that they simply don't have the vocabulary to express what they feel and why, many of them don't know anything whatsoever about human psychology or even just the term trauma tbh
I completely repressed a lot of the uncomfortable stuff from this movie until watching this video reminded me...thanks Wisecrack...😂
I really thought that this was the road the movie was going down until the demon cult stuff took over the narrative. However I see now that the demon cult stuff might have been more of a narrative tool to externalize the internal theme. Annie beheading herself is an analogy to how she had become her own mother but also how she had made Charlie herself.
Came here to comment the same thing lol. I totally repressed the beheading/grieving scene 😣
In the movie the mother is beheading herself because she at the time is possessed by the paimon demon. In order for the demon to transfer bodies he needs an exit.. that’s Charlie and the Mom were beheaded. But yes I also agree with you.
@@tysupreme5563 you're right, that's what's literally happening in that moment, but I was never a fan of the demon possession part of the movie. It seemed like a cop out and weakness the whole story to me. Instead of a movie with the final message being a cautionary tale stressing the importance of dealing with and processing your own past trauma and issues so that you don't doom your children and descendants to the same or worse, I feel like we got an movie who's final message was "None of the characters are responsible for their actions, it was all a demon's fault!" Now that I think about it though, maybe that's the point. The demon possession stuff was weird, but maybe they were getting super Meta. Like at the end of the movie, even the story doesn't want to deal with it's trauma. For example, if the movie had ended vague with Peter in a mental hospital with us the audience unsure if the demon possession stuff really happened, or if it was just how Peter's brain processed the trauma of killing his sister and subsequently having a mental break and killing his parents, he believes that a demon was after his family and it ended up "possessing" him. However vague or not, this ending would have acknowledged the events that occured in the final act as having really happened.
Instead the movie itself does the exact same thing that the characters in the movie do. It doesn't take responsibility for the characters in the movie or the acts that are committed, instead it chooses to say that this was all because of demon possession.
I acknowledge that I'm probably reading way into it, I was just super disappointed by the demon stuff at the end, I would like this movie a lot more if it didn't end that way.
The film has a lot of visual symbolism pointing to Charlie being a metaphor for a Younger Annie. The movies vertical poster even shows A tree followed by Charlie’s head above it followed by Annie’s head above hers. The implication that like the tree growing upwards, Charlie will grow into Annie.
Charlie’s death thus becomes doubly disturbing because it’s not only the literal death of Annie’s daughter, but the symbolic destruction of Annie’s childhood she tried to vicariously relive by giving her daughter to Ellen. Charlie’s abnormal face also serves as a nice visual metaphor for an abused childhood.
I just watched a video essay about "mothers as horror villains" yesterday.. On this channel? What's happening??
Summary: Don't have kids
PREACH
You weren't gonna have any anyways
For me, the ad before this video was for a condom company 😳🤣
Wasn’t the kids that were the problems it was the parents
Facts
PTSD FROM CHATTEL SLAVERY HAS ENTERED THE CHAT💔💔❤💪🏽
Yes. And it's amazing (or distressing) that people can understand generational damage in certain contexts but not in others. I blame the delivery of the message. While valid; entire generations of the children and grandchildren etc of former victims of the "Peculiar Institution" are actively demonstrating severely damaged souls, the spokespeople for understanding that this is a real thing are forcing focus on issues that society in general is not able to deal with. Add to that the willingness of politicians to legislate punitive measures on a demographic based on prejudice and lies and we have a destructive toxic system that reinforces and perpetuates the cycles that lead to a stressed out class of desperate people!
Fantastic video!! Terrific analysis and Helen is awesome, favorite Wisecrack vid so far!! 👏👏👏💯💯💯
the 3rd act was the first time i had to watch a movie through the gaps in my fingers. the tongue click haunted me for days. great analysis, wisecrack!
Honestly this movie hit me so hard and the message was so clear that this is the first wisecrack video where I didn't learn anything. Definitely says a lot about my family life growing up. I'm glad I've done the self work to change.
First horror film I watched in the theater that I almost bailed out on. Never felt something get under my skin THIS much.
Unlike Midsommar, the victims, while flawed, are liakeable
when i saw this movie i was so in awe with the artistic direction of it, the photography and the color palette that i didn't have time to get scared, well, a little scared but a few hours later the scenes kept going through my head and i had to sleep with the lights on.
great analysis. so many things to share.
This is my favorite movie of all time since I watched it last year
Do a video please about ready or not and how when marrying someone, they bring with them all the weight of their family and habits and rituals and how essentially not only are you marrying the person, but their family as well and how you should deal with that burden.
Aint nothing more scary than being born in a family that is involved in some cult
This video pops up in my feed right after a blow up with the parents. Coincidence? Seriously thought this is my favorite channel on yt!
I've been waiting for more channels to talk about this movie
I love how much thoughtful analysis this film has generated
I'd really like to see Wisecrack perform a cultural review of horror films and their reaction on the audience. Could it be possible that family oriented individuals, groups, and societies reflect differently when the main element of "good" horror, in this instance, is "family." American horror can be considered vastly different over foreign horror. I've seen a fair share of both but I'm wondering how other people experience and like other horror flicks.I think you can't talk about family without addressing a cultural context. Keep the good videos coming Wisecrack; maybe you can tackle the intricacies of that?
i studied film in university as my minor. a lot of that stuff is really interesting. i had a horror film class that talked about, for instance, the cultural differences between ringu and the american remake the ring and how the japanese version incorporated a lot of elements of japanese folklore that was lost on american audiences, making it more culturally relevant to the japanese people, whereas the american version went more for just the creepiness factor and jump scares. fwiw, i got a's in all my film classes ha. i think i'm gonna start a channel that dives deeper into the cultural implications of horror than most horror channels do, using what i learned in that class as a basis.
@@jakefoster5611 That sounds amazing! I'll definitely be a subscriber and follower if you get it going. The Ring is a perfect example of cultural context shaping the understanding and experience in film and specifically film horror
I've been on a wisecrack binge! This is awesome!
Props on illustrating a Freud idea without misrepresenting it. Good job!
Can’t help but feel doomed. Xtra doomed.
THIS WAS SOOO GOOD!!! I'm not a horror person but I love this movie! Great work Wisecrack
my family fucking has a history of abuse and not knowing how to raise kids. I was the first person in my family to go to Therapy for emotional illness and have it be an ok thing. the only way to brake the cycle is to admit there is one
this video is SO on point for me. My father recently passed. mourning, communicating with family, contemplation, and inner-monologing.
monday morning quarterbcking whatever google says counts as " psycoanalysis".
these have all been fairly powerful aspects to my life, inside my experience lately. my recently passed wife of 10 years, she suffered from mental illness her whole life. we chose not to have children because of the very reason you discussed.
and its quite concievable to write up a huge list of reasons my father ruined my existence, and just as well , all others around him
but love is impossible. its hard to argue with that. by which i mean, love is magical. its divine. and with love, comes the great gift of grace. understanding. and awareness that we all suffer
@Ray Moorhouse - I know this was an older post, but I read your comment. As a wife with multiple autoimmune diseases and mental illness who is also not having kids for the same reason, thank you for supporting your wife's belief/opinion. I'm lucky in that my husband agrees, but many men out there don't - they're so hellbent on "carrying on the line." Anyway. I also wanted to say I am so, so sorry for both of your losses. As one internet stranger to another - please accept my hug for as long as you need.
I've enjoyed the return of these slow burn, indie horror movies. The Babadook, The VVich, The Lighthouse, It Comes At Night, ect. But...
I don't know what it is but for some reason Ari Aster movies don't do anything for me. Like, I get the message he's going for in Hereditary and Midsommar (its kind of hard not to get it tbh they are heavy handed movies), but I don't find them particularly scary or entertaining.
I found them entertaining, but yeah, not so scary. I think that's just because the stuff in movies like Hereditary is very real, and the logical down-to-earth explanation for why these things are happening is already there if you want to accept it - and if it's not truly supernatural in nature, then you know that there is ways to beat or overcome it. That is what makes that sort of stuff less scary IMO.
I shouldn't have watched this at 3am..
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This might be the first time I ever actually worried about spoiling a movie by watching Wise Crack, and thank god I did. That car accident really sticks with you. And I had no clue who Toni Collette was but she was absolutely perfect. Alex Wolff definitely deserves attention as well.
This is one of your best videos fam
So glad that Helen's lights were on so it's less spoopy.
A true masterpiece of horror!
I felt so sorry for charlie. She didn't want to interrupt her brother's mingling eventhough she was choking with peanut allergies. Then him gently carrying her and having that hopeless dark ride. Then to hear their mom scream her heart out. It destroyed me. Loved the movie but doubt I'll rewatch, I was so tense and anxious lmao.
This was such a fantastic analysis of the family element of the movie. A+!
I thought for days about what I would do if I was Peter in the situation with his sisters death. And I still don’t know. I don’t know how I could live with myself I don’t know how I would tell my parents I think I would strongly consider driving the car towards the next tree I don’t think I would be able to call police or my parents. My sister is the most important person in my life if I was responsible for hurting her I would literally not be able to live. God thanks wisecrack now I’m sweating and horrified again damn
When I first watched it I was shocked that he went home, but when I really thought about it, and the manner in which she died, I realized might’ve done the same thing, or at least just stayed on that spot motionless until someone came. But I certainly wouldn’t be able to call my parents and tell them what I’ve done. Him doing that and not sleeping a wink all night was some sick but honest writing.
It traumatized me too, have some hugs and I hope the rest of your day is better *hugs*
Probably state of shock like the brother was in the movie. iirc there was a real occurence of two brothers in their 40 coming back from a get together and one was decapitated in the same fashion. The surviving brother just went to bed aswell and discovered the body in the morning. They were both very drunk, though.
Sorry// the scary thing for me is if I did this, I would’ve done the same thing as Peter did. Except I would’ve called the police.. But I don’t think I would’ve been able to tell my parents. We’re not close like that. My family is sorta - ish like the family in the movie. Don’t know how to communicate or don’t feel comfortable doing it. Repress repress repress!
Hereditary was the second most disturbing movie I've ever seen
What was the most?
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@@retrofuture1989 If youre looking to re-arrange that list a bit, try the original Martyrs.
the shot where toni collette lights the match and the light fills her chest and chin, that's cinematography gold. The colors and Collette's face.
this movie really hit the spot for me. especially knowing about how trauma gets passed on both through familiy bonds AND genetics. meaning that many people really are cursed from birth with their parent's traumas. such an effective movie.
I can't wait for Ari Aster's next movie, he is 10/10 in both for me so far. Excellent video
Someone needs to analyze the audio in this movie. I swear I could feel that frequency horror movies use to disorient the viewers.
Man, this movie was already so good but videos like this elevate it to something next level. I never would have noticed all of these amazingly minute details.
Great analysis. Really enhances what was already a densely thematic movie. I'm not sure I can watch this again since having a daughter. But damn what a great movie
"Hey Wisecrack!" I'm not wisecrack.
I just watched this movie yesterday what are the odds ? Damnit wisecrack !! xD
I TH-camd it.. And watched Ryan Hollinger's essay about it. Weird.😬 (Won't see it. EVER.)
Hereditary is one of the best films of the past decade.
Great video!
I feel the loops and cycle can change if one can take out time to actually feel through the trauma and make ammends, the thing is the trauma rises up once you just sit at a place without doing anything.
I watched this through my fingers. everytime I watch a Hereditary vid, I'm so afraid they're gonna show THAT scene XD.
I'll persevere, but you almost lost me at "typical family", unless cult membership and demon summoning is normal where you guys are...
i think this may be my favorite wisecrack essay-wow
The mother's scream after Charlie's death is terrifyingly haunting. The pain, the agony, the disgust, the horror...
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