Excellent description of the pros & cons. I’m exactly who you made this video for. Up in the air trying to decide between the two. For me the superior display format and separate indoor thermometer make my choice the 2000. I have a vacation home on the Wa. State coastline”Ocean Park”equipped with a 12 year old lacrosse technology wifi station and this will be a wonderful upgrade. Love the birds!
I set up my WS - 2000 today. One interesting note, my display does not have the the multi channel set-up function. I was planning to add more sensors for my garage and attic. I'll need to call their support line.
It does have multi-channel. It's the third button from the right with a "CH" and two arrows circling it. You go to Options, then the last option More, then Sensors ID to add sensors.
Awesome Video! I'm thinking about getting the 2902 but I was wondering whether there are any issues viewing the display from different angles? I want to mount it on a wall but idk if you have to be looking straight on to view the data.
if you are just looking for a display I would get the 2902. But if you need the options that the 2000 has, get it. With the 2000 you can push weather data to a custom server. Many HAMs use the 2000 because of this option.
the cheapest best station out there is the lacrosss sv 70 about $80. if u want lighting detection move away from lacrosse, and check out the accurite atlas pro. .what inhave found is what u loose in station , u gain in display great vid.
Hola Tengo 2902A y a dejado de informar la velocidad de los vientos, pero los puntos cardinales si los muestras, en la estación meteorológica se mueve correctamente al viento, que podrá ser?, muchas gracias por la ayuda
Oye, desearía saberlo. No sigo el ritmo lo suficiente o he tenido ese problema para saberlo realmente. No estoy seguro si estás en Facebook o no, pero hay una gran comunidad allí (creo que se llama simplemente clima ambiental) con personas que te ayudarán con cualquier problema.
I'v been a weather geek my whole life. I have a older generation WS-1001 still going after 6 years. Will be upgrading in the future when this one ceases to operate properly
I want to note also that i would not recommend having both of these stations at one location. Both the display's get data from both sensor arrays and they can alternate back and forth meaning for example, if you are on weather underground or the ambient weather site looking at your data for your weather stations, you will notice that the data for both stations are identical because they are likely getting data off the same sensor array. I made this video to compare both and later found this to be an issue, so i have since re located my 2902a to a family members house.
Greetings from Cape Town South Africa 🇿🇦 Great video. Any problems experienced so far with your WS-2000 console or outside ISS on the roof. Many thanks and blessings to you and your entire family. Keep safe. 😊👍 Warmest regards John.
Thanks for your in depth video, I was trying to figure out which one to get , and your video helped a lot. I'm going with the less expensive model because I'm sure it will meet my needs. It looks like you used 2 inch PVC pipe to mount your units. Would you recommend that for a 10 length mounted to a fence pole...Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
No problem! And anything that has a firm hold but at the same time, is high in the air. It’s nearly impossible to find the perfect spot. Just make sure it’s not in a location that would prevent winds, rainfall, or near a surface that would enhance sunlight.
I don’t know the differences because I haven’t looked in to the 5000, but I’ve heard by a lot of people off ambients Facebook page that they prefer the 2000.
The thing that's only different is the WS-2000 has a nicer screen, firmware updates, and a SD-Card slot to save weather history (if you prefer not to use the online features). When it comes to power outages, I think you would be able to rig the display where it can be powered with a cheap rechargeable USB bank. But if you don't care about any of those, there's no difference in the sensors. The newer 2902B and C series can add new sensors, while the "A" version can't. If you're mainly wanting it for WiFi features, and you want battery backup, the cheaper one would be for you. Or if you don't want a display at all, the IP version is good as well.
Haven’t watched yet but I have the 2902. Is the 2000 screen compatible with the weather station that comes with 2902. They appear the same. Trying to upgrade but no be broke
So update on this I was told by ambient weather I could purchase the console and it would connect to my 2092 outdoor station. However, whenever I did this, the console was $199 plus you have to buy the indoor temperature detector separately after everything was said and done. It was only $45 more for me to buy the WS 2000 brand new with the outdoor station. I still would’ve went the cheaper route, but my weather station has been sitting outside in the elements for about three years. I don’t know what the life expectancy is on these things, but I figure better not chance it. Plus I wanted the lightning detector and the outdoor protector for it. If you bundle things, they actually take about $10 off the list price so I got my lightning detector $10 cheaper. My birthday is on the 15th and my wife said she wanted me to get it because she knows weather makes me happy! My total cost for everything was $396. That was the WS 2000, a lightning detector and an outdoor lightning protector weather covering. Plus the 10% military discount. Now my next thing is, I need to figure out how to mount it to work better I currently have my 2092 strap to a 6 foot fence post. I want to try to put it on top of my house. I’m just not entirely sure how to yet.
I have noticed that the barometer on my 2000 always reads much lower than the weather service gives for my area. Is there any way to calibrate the barometer?
dheller777 there is a way in settings to change it. They recommend you changing it to your closes NWS. For instance, I changed mine to match the same as the NWS here in Columbia, SC. After you change it, it stays with whatever there’s reads. I struggled with that at first also.
@@MitchWestWeather Thank you for your quick reply. I really like my 2000. The display is really nice. I had several Lacross stations and they all died after a couple years.
I just purchased a WS-2000. I am not impressed yet, as it was over $200 and didn't have a power adapter to power the screen. Contacting Ambient Weather, it would appear this isn't normal. Hopefully, they will send me one at no charge. Secondly, I have to spend another $40 to buy a mounting pole as it doesn't come with one. My previous system was about half the price (La Crosse) and came with a mounting bracket and pole. The WS-2000 has no instructions, and you have to assemble the sensor unit. They don't tell you which spindle the wind speed and direction pieces mount to, and they are interchangeable. I had to search for a video to see which was which. The WS-2000 does not have an internal temperature sensor in the display. The less-expensive La Crosse does. The screen does not have battery backup like the La Crosse. The battery door on the outdoor part isn't very obvious how to open. You need to pull it hard away from the unit so it slides off. It doesn't flip open.
I have an ecowitt weather station with the exact same display on the left. I love that display because you can see everything at a glance even though I have everything on the internet including my Davis weather station, I still look at it often.
There is a difference in hardware, thr WS 2000 has SD support, and firmware ability to upgrade it, the WS 2902A does not and don't think it can support extra addons?
@@MitchWestWeather also does not support firmware addins or SD data backup, which is why I think the WS2000 does not need battery backup in its console as the data is backed up to SD.
Does either one of these connect to a computer? Is their app compatible with a computer system? Not everyone walks around with a phone in their pocket or wants to use a phone for this sort of data.
Well, the app is for things like your phone and such. But they actually have a website too that has your dashboard reflecting all your weather data coming from your console.
To be honest, I had the 2902A before they came out with the b model. The B model is the one you can now add additional sensors too. I have the 2000 model now. If you have Facebook, ambient weather group is a great place to join on there. I’m on there, and they are very helpful!
I was confused... you said you just set up the 2000 unit... but it has 106.3 inches of rainfall for the year... did you transfer data from one to the other... if so, do you choose which data parameters to send over(rain should be the same given both locations) but obviously the other data would be different..
It was incorrect. Haha very incurrent. Long story short, I transferred info from my 2902 to my 2000 before the video, but the info on my 2902 was wrong.
I can see a problem with the rain gauge attached to the unit and placed so high on the roof. I have a lot of trees around my house and I would imagine when the leaves start falling they will get stuck in the rain gauge. Would be a pain constantly going up on the roof to clean it out. I think a rain gauge should be separate from the unit so it can be kept at a lower height easy to clean. Your thoughts???
Doug, what sort of low life are you shooting defenceless birds just for following their natural behaviours. A real scum act pal. You’re a real low life.🖕🏻
I've had the WS-2902A for 2 years now and in my opinion it's not worth upgrading to the WS-2000 if there is no battery backup during a power outage - that's a major downer. Otherwise the newer display looks much better but you're still pretty much getting the same functionality for roughly 60% of the cost in the WS-2902A/B. I also run a WS-2801A for measuring conditions around the house both inside and outside (it has up to 3 sensors) so it's kinda pointless for me to replace the main weather station until it dies. I wonder if a WS-2000 display would work with a 2902A system... hmmm.. guessing probably not.
I don’t think it would, but if I was being honest with you, I’d agree. I bought my 2902a but got the 2000 as a gift. I retired the 2902 but I’d still have it if I didn’t get the other as a gift. There is things you can upgrade like lightning detectors etc with the 2000. So that’s cool.
@@MitchWestWeather I will replace my system whenever it decides to die. I just hope they do something about the issue of backup power - one could hook up a portable solar generator to it, but typically those cost as much or more than the cost of the system itself.
@@Sui778 If you feel like dealing with making a battery backup it's not difficult. I would see what the output voltage is coming from the power supply and match that with a small battery bank that's rechargeable. I'm guessing the voltage may be the same as USB (5.0 volts DC)... Plenty of rechargeable power packs out there for about $30. Some put out 12.0 volts and 5.0 volts DC.
@@geomatrix5452 A cheap UPS probably would be fine also. I don't think that display pulls a lot of power so a UPS with a 450 watt-hour rating probably would keep it running for several hours in an extended outage.
as of 10/19/21. The up grade 2000 over the 2902 A-B or C isnt worth it to me. I have the 2902C and it does a great job. But for the added $ 100 PLUS for the 2000 what do you really get ? Ok, so all the info is on the console ( and some of it pretty darn small to read from a distance ) ... but for $ 289 this thing doesnt even come with inside Temp / Hum / Barometric without buying a sensor ? Thats NUTS ! I know you said yours did, but not any more. Thats an OPTION. and for that price, thats BULLS***. Ill keep my 2902C and use the usual Ambieant and WU sites... and there you have it. A Huge monitor ( your computer screen ) with all the data from ANY day you want to bring up...The 2000 is Cash Grab Only...
I was wanting a weather station for a long time but everybody else is buying them, many are sold out and prices gone up holding them hostage! I will go without one than kissing ass and paying price assholes for one
Shows you the younger generation today . He is acting like pushing putting is like going out and digging ditches in 100 degree weather with 88.3 humidity which you have to push buttons on the cheaper model … jeez
Excellent description of the pros & cons. I’m exactly who you made this video for. Up in the air trying to decide between the two. For me the superior display format and separate indoor thermometer make my choice the 2000. I have a vacation home on the Wa. State coastline”Ocean Park”equipped with a 12 year old lacrosse technology wifi station and this will be a wonderful upgrade.
Love the birds!
Heck yeh! I’m glad this helped! Enjoy it, it’s been an awesome station for me.
I set up my WS - 2000 today. One interesting note, my display does not have the the multi channel set-up function. I was planning to add more sensors for my garage and attic. I'll need to call their support line.
It does have multi-channel. It's the third button from the right with a "CH" and two arrows circling it.
You go to Options, then the last option More, then Sensors ID to add sensors.
@@CubeEarthTheory Thank you. I did have support guide me. Been using the WS 2000 for a year now and enjoy it. It has worked flawlessly for me.
Awesome Video! I'm thinking about getting the 2902 but I was wondering whether there are any issues viewing the display from different angles? I want to mount it on a wall but idk if you have to be looking straight on to view the data.
The display on both are exactly great for looking at it from the side if that's what you mean. Thank you!
if you are just looking for a display I would get the 2902. But if you need the options that the 2000 has, get it. With the 2000 you can push weather data to a custom server. Many HAMs use the 2000 because of this option.
Love your ùtube weather, you're my go to every day. GREAT JOB
Sharon Hyde thank you, Sharon!
the cheapest best station out there is the lacrosss sv 70 about $80. if u want lighting detection move away from lacrosse, and check out the accurite atlas pro. .what inhave found is what u loose in station , u gain in display great vid.
Now I can't decide because there's no battery backup for the WS-2000! What were they thinking!
Very nice your set up like I'm set up here at home im getting other weather station also soon as I can Great video.
Thank you!
Hey dude, I'm in Lexington too. Doing some research on these weather stations and just happened to come across your reviews. Small world!!!
Chris Fonte man that’s awesome! What’s the chances!? Hope it helped buddy.
@@MitchWestWeather it did! Looking to pick up the 2902b soon and integrate it with Home Assistant.
Chris Fonte nice! Yeh those are new! Enjoy man
Hola Tengo 2902A y a dejado de informar la velocidad de los vientos, pero los puntos cardinales si los muestras, en la estación meteorológica se mueve correctamente al viento, que podrá ser?, muchas gracias por la ayuda
Oye, desearía saberlo. No sigo el ritmo lo suficiente o he tenido ese problema para saberlo realmente. No estoy seguro si estás en Facebook o no, pero hay una gran comunidad allí (creo que se llama simplemente clima ambiental) con personas que te ayudarán con cualquier problema.
Great review Mitch. Thank you.
Thanks Mike!
Thanks for pointing out the differences.
I'v been a weather geek my whole life. I have a older generation WS-1001 still going after 6 years. Will be upgrading in the future when this one ceases to operate properly
P.S. I would go with the WS 2000 for the SD card capability and firmware upgrade capability
I want to note also that i would not recommend having both of these stations at one location. Both the display's get data from both sensor arrays and they can alternate back and forth meaning for example, if you are on weather underground or the ambient weather site looking at your data for your weather stations, you will notice that the data for both stations are identical because they are likely getting data off the same sensor array.
I made this video to compare both and later found this to be an issue, so i have since re located my 2902a to a family members house.
Greetings from Cape Town South Africa 🇿🇦
Great video. Any problems experienced so far with your WS-2000 console or outside ISS on the roof.
Many thanks and blessings to you and your entire family. Keep safe. 😊👍 Warmest regards John.
Hey! Only issues I have is that heat radiates from the shingles in the summertime and can skew my temps at times!
Thanks for your in depth video, I was trying to figure out which one to get , and your video helped a lot. I'm going with the less expensive model because I'm sure it will meet my needs. It looks like you used 2 inch PVC pipe to mount your units. Would you recommend that for a 10 length mounted to a fence pole...Any advice will be appreciated, thanks
No problem! And anything that has a firm hold but at the same time, is high in the air. It’s nearly impossible to find the perfect spot. Just make sure it’s not in a location that would prevent winds, rainfall, or near a surface that would enhance sunlight.
Should I consider the 5000 over the 2000? Just wanting your opinion, thanks.
I don’t know the differences because I haven’t looked in to the 5000, but I’ve heard by a lot of people off ambients Facebook page that they prefer the 2000.
@@MitchWestWeather I'll go with the 2000 sounds like it's solid. Thanks for your reply.
The thing that's only different is the WS-2000 has a nicer screen, firmware updates, and a SD-Card slot to save weather history (if you prefer not to use the online features). When it comes to power outages, I think you would be able to rig the display where it can be powered with a cheap rechargeable USB bank. But if you don't care about any of those, there's no difference in the sensors. The newer 2902B and C series can add new sensors, while the "A" version can't. If you're mainly wanting it for WiFi features, and you want battery backup, the cheaper one would be for you. Or if you don't want a display at all, the IP version is good as well.
And support for addons which I am sure the 2902A is not. Also the WS 2902A does not support thr lighting detector
Hi Mitch, I am going in for a follow-up back surgery on Wednesday morning around 11:00am Central. I appreciate your prayers for me, thanks.
Praying for a smooth surgery!
Haven’t watched yet but I have the 2902. Is the 2000 screen compatible with the weather station that comes with 2902. They appear the same. Trying to upgrade but no be broke
So update on this I was told by ambient weather I could purchase the console and it would connect to my 2092 outdoor station. However, whenever I did this, the console was $199 plus you have to buy the indoor temperature detector separately after everything was said and done. It was only $45 more for me to buy the WS 2000 brand new with the outdoor station. I still would’ve went the cheaper route, but my weather station has been sitting outside in the elements for about three years. I don’t know what the life expectancy is on these things, but I figure better not chance it. Plus I wanted the lightning detector and the outdoor protector for it. If you bundle things, they actually take about $10 off the list price so I got my lightning detector $10 cheaper. My birthday is on the 15th and my wife said she wanted me to get it because she knows weather makes me happy! My total cost for everything was $396. That was the WS 2000, a lightning detector and an outdoor lightning protector weather covering. Plus the 10% military discount. Now my next thing is, I need to figure out how to mount it to work better I currently have my 2092 strap to a 6 foot fence post. I want to try to put it on top of my house. I’m just not entirely sure how to yet.
Probably the WS 2902 plus a Purple Air Particulate Matter unit is worth it, since EPA has a standard for incorporating those
I have noticed that the barometer on my 2000 always reads much lower than the weather service gives for my area. Is there any way to calibrate the barometer?
dheller777 there is a way in settings to change it. They recommend you changing it to your closes NWS. For instance, I changed mine to match the same as the NWS here in Columbia, SC. After you change it, it stays with whatever there’s reads. I struggled with that at first also.
@@MitchWestWeather Thank you for your quick reply. I really like my 2000. The display is really nice. I had several Lacross stations and they all died after a couple years.
Yeh it’s a nice station. I’ve enjoyed mine a lot!
I just purchased a WS-2000. I am not impressed yet, as it was over $200 and didn't have a power adapter to power the screen. Contacting Ambient Weather, it would appear this isn't normal. Hopefully, they will send me one at no charge.
Secondly, I have to spend another $40 to buy a mounting pole as it doesn't come with one. My previous system was about half the price (La Crosse) and came with a mounting bracket and pole.
The WS-2000 has no instructions, and you have to assemble the sensor unit. They don't tell you which spindle the wind speed and direction pieces mount to, and they are interchangeable. I had to search for a video to see which was which.
The WS-2000 does not have an internal temperature sensor in the display. The less-expensive La Crosse does. The screen does not have battery backup like the La Crosse. The battery door on the outdoor part isn't very obvious how to open. You need to pull it hard away from the unit so it slides off. It doesn't flip open.
I have an ecowitt weather station with the exact same display on the left. I love that display because you can see everything at a glance even though I have everything on the internet including my Davis weather station, I still look at it often.
Jason Curtis nice man! Yeh I really like it also, don’t have to click any buttons!
There is a difference in hardware, thr WS 2000 has SD support, and firmware ability to upgrade it, the WS 2902A does not and don't think it can support extra addons?
2902A doesn’t support Add ons, no.
@@MitchWestWeather also does not support firmware addins or SD data backup, which is why I think the WS2000 does not need battery backup in its console as the data is backed up to SD.
Do these have 5G chips inside, since most such as LA crosse technology only have 2.4, which is really annoying
Does either one of these connect to a computer? Is their app compatible with a computer system? Not everyone walks around with a phone in their pocket or wants to use a phone for this sort of data.
Well, the app is for things like your phone and such. But they actually have a website too that has your dashboard reflecting all your weather data coming from your console.
Nice video, Just curious if you could put one of the sensors in your freezer?
Lol not sure! Never tried
Cheers! Good to know! Thanks!
Can any sensor from this two sensors work with any monitor from the two monitors
2902b has problems with outside temperature and light sensors; repeated failure.
can i add more sensors to 2902B like WS-2000?
Shelly Varghese yes, now you can!
@@MitchWestWeather how do you do it, couldn't find any documentation?
To be honest, I had the 2902A before they came out with the b model. The B model is the one you can now add additional sensors too. I have the 2000 model now. If you have Facebook, ambient weather group is a great place to join on there. I’m on there, and they are very helpful!
I was confused... you said you just set up the 2000 unit... but it has 106.3 inches of rainfall for the year... did you transfer data from one to the other... if so, do you choose which data parameters to send over(rain should be the same given both locations) but obviously the other data would be different..
It was incorrect. Haha very incurrent. Long story short, I transferred info from my 2902 to my 2000 before the video, but the info on my 2902 was wrong.
good~~ reviewed!!
I can see a problem with the rain gauge attached to the unit and placed so high on the roof. I have a lot of trees around my house and I would imagine when the leaves start falling they will get stuck in the rain gauge. Would be a pain constantly going up on the roof to clean it out. I think a rain gauge should be separate from the unit so it can be kept at a lower height easy to clean. Your thoughts???
Agree, but you work with what you got. I have a CoCoRaHS gauge also, and I use that most of the time for my real rain fall totals
@@MitchWestWeather like I said I’d like to see rain gauges be made so they are separate from the main unit.
Thank you!
I am upgrading from a acurite 3 in 1 to the 2902
Nice!
Mind boggling that there’s no battery backup on the display. So when the power goes out, you can’t view the data?
Not that I know of.
@@MitchWestWeather use a usb cable
What about throught the app?
But it doesn’t receive NWS alerts
It doesn’t, which is unfortunate for people who want that. Personally, I have a few other ways to receive them
You need to review a pellet rifle on those noisy @ss birds.
Nah fam, the birds are my homies.
Doug, what sort of low life are you shooting defenceless birds just for following their natural behaviours.
A real scum act pal. You’re a real low life.🖕🏻
I like quiet.
Thanks again Mr West
انا لا اعرف من افضل ولكن محطة جيدة هي اوروبية
I've had the WS-2902A for 2 years now and in my opinion it's not worth upgrading to the WS-2000 if there is no battery backup during a power outage - that's a major downer. Otherwise the newer display looks much better but you're still pretty much getting the same functionality for roughly 60% of the cost in the WS-2902A/B. I also run a WS-2801A for measuring conditions around the house both inside and outside (it has up to 3 sensors) so it's kinda pointless for me to replace the main weather station until it dies. I wonder if a WS-2000 display would work with a 2902A system... hmmm.. guessing probably not.
I don’t think it would, but if I was being honest with you, I’d agree. I bought my 2902a but got the 2000 as a gift. I retired the 2902 but I’d still have it if I didn’t get the other as a gift. There is things you can upgrade like lightning detectors etc with the 2000. So that’s cool.
@@MitchWestWeather I will replace my system whenever it decides to die. I just hope they do something about the issue of backup power - one could hook up a portable solar generator to it, but typically those cost as much or more than the cost of the system itself.
@@Sui778 If you feel like dealing with making a battery backup it's not difficult. I would see what the output voltage is coming from the power supply and match that with a small battery bank that's rechargeable. I'm guessing the voltage may be the same as USB (5.0 volts DC)... Plenty of rechargeable power packs out there for about $30. Some put out 12.0 volts and 5.0 volts DC.
@@geomatrix5452 A cheap UPS probably would be fine also. I don't think that display pulls a lot of power so a UPS with a 450 watt-hour rating probably would keep it running for several hours in an extended outage.
Does the 2902c has battery back up for the monitor?
Bro I haven't seen one of your videos for months..I thought you quit TH-cam. Guess you got shadow banned..
Nah lol been here the whole time.
as of 10/19/21. The up grade 2000 over the 2902 A-B or C isnt worth it to me. I have the 2902C and it does a great job. But for the added $ 100 PLUS for the 2000 what do you really get ? Ok, so all the info is on the console ( and some of it pretty darn small to read from a distance ) ... but for $ 289 this thing doesnt even come with inside Temp / Hum / Barometric without buying a sensor ? Thats NUTS ! I know you said yours did, but not any more. Thats an OPTION. and for that price, thats BULLS***. Ill keep my 2902C and use the usual Ambieant and WU sites... and there you have it. A Huge monitor ( your computer screen ) with all the data from ANY day you want to bring up...The 2000 is Cash Grab Only...
Doe the 2909c have battery back up for the monitor?
I was wanting a weather station for a long time but everybody else is buying them, many are sold out and prices gone up holding them hostage! I will go without one than kissing ass and paying price assholes for one
Still rocking my WS-1002 for over 6 years now! I'm quite surprised it still heald up, and on WU too! KNJSOUTH63
Heck yeh!!!
lol
Lol
Shows you the younger generation today . He is acting like pushing putting is like going out and digging ditches in 100 degree weather with 88.3 humidity which you have to push buttons on the cheaper model … jeez