I was booking a load yesterday in el paso 1d a mile to cali i told the broker hey this load should pay more and she answered: well i know but drivers are taking it... ITS OUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY NO TO CHEAP LOAD MOTHAFUKERS ..
Why are you so upset? Someone is making money off of this load if not they will go out of business. For me, I can’t run at 1dollar/mile into cali so I’d pass on this load. If all the loads only paid 1d/mile then I’d run elsewhere. What does this tell you? You have to get leaner or find another line of business or take some time off. I’m American so it’s my “right” to run cheap and go out of business.
@@kyu2u2Because people like that are making everyone's life hell cause they're hauling cheap freight making all truckers look stupid and work for peanuts. You don't know lane rates, or the trucking market, Or what it cost to operate a semi truck. Bozos like that never last in tracking
I do dry van 500 miles radius from LA/Inland Empire and usually could get around $3 per mile heading out but coming back is trash. I was stuck in Modesto for a day trying to get a load back. Loads heading back to SoCal is like $1.60. And Loads disappear quickly from load boards. Good luck out there fellas.
I agree but you would think a market that size there bound to be some that will popup. There were some while I was there but the couple I did see were in the Madera area and 240miles away paid good but needed to be picked up right away.
DAT are fixed price…so brokers could lower even further the prices …or as they call ,negotiate from trash price to something to make it movable…and many are buying DAT stories
Bro, 7 drop is fantastic. By the time you're at your 4th drop, You're getting same mpg as empty. The extra fuel you're saving will be enough to deadhead to Boston, And there is always something out of Boston
I agree but $$$ wasn’t enough. I won’t be seeing that last drop off my trailer until Friday more than likely. Then I would need to dead head out. Would be too late to get a load then.
That’s crazy high… you guys must have a lot of features activated or even personal/direct contact that can handle your technical difficulties at any given moment.
@@pinoytrucking This isn’t even the top tier package… there’s one more level that offers website services, rate index, and ACE manifest services. I do have two personal contacts I use for tech support, so that’s cool. I wish we could see the rates posted right on the board like y’all. It’s rare for that to happen, it’s almost always a bid system to see how cheap they can get it moved for 😂
Hey Pinoi thanks for those out there experience. Usyhow is your modo operating with brokers, stick with olds or deal with every new brokers when they have the load you want? Take care and be safe out there!
I kind of enjoy the hustle behind it I think. There are some brokers that I wouldn’t mind pulling for but the problem is; most of these loads are just trash from the contract freight that is being rejected by the contractors.
Honestly all the ports I drove over weren’t busy and all my drivers said the same no inspections parking lots empty. I think blitz week was a fake this time around
I wouldn’t be taking bad about people not being able to speak English. Some of the best people I know can’t really speak English but they have the purest heart.
Most of the decent paying loads not reaching load board, brokers emailing lists of loads, that were I grabbing them, last week I booked for my owner operator flatbed load from Santa Ana, CA- Elk Grove Village, IL 32,000 of crane parts with 6’ tarp for $4,575. I am not saying that is super duper rate, but at least it’s not bad, and IL is decent market
You have to go into Cali with great $ and arrive before a Wednesday to load partial and pick and choose what partials work for you the rest of the week and make decent money out and start hading east Friday with 3-5 Partials.. be done by Tuesday- Wednesday the following week. People running 1n1 out of cali most of the time are desperate or rookies running cheap freight
I did see a lot of that… Lessoned learned. I was trying to put a partial together but one of the brokers I guess he couldn’t wait a few seconds for me to look up a distance to see if I can make his timeframe. Oh well…
hey pinoy the load board is TRASH everywhere fam ,,,from amazon to Schneider jb hunt dat load board and uber freight the list goes on and on ,,,,hey super trucker dan seems to be doing well at MERCER .take care and good luck.
Definitely has crossed my mind to switch. For now I’m still doing ok. If I must I will do so. Hopefully things do get better before they get any worst.
I emptied out in Rockford Thursday am and made about 30 calls before i got a load at 1:30 Friday in muscatine Iowa going to st Louis. Not a great rate but it was better then sitting there until Monday.
Great video, but I think you should upgrade your membership. There’s a feature on the upgraded package that allows you to look at the market in different states. Also how you filter plays a big part. Nonetheless, the spot market is terrible because of the high amount of carriers. Also carriers that will take anything, the brokers taste blood in the water. Good luck, it’s tough for everyone out here.
Not even… There are some loads that Landstar agents post that would pay above average but coming from Southern California on open deck. They’re all the same. They play the market rates.
@pinoytrucking thank you for reply. Are the overweight loads for 3 axle RGN loads also shit prices too? I'm just curious if the heavy haul market is also really bad. I'm more interested in just overweight and not so much over dimensional. Like heavy equipment hauling.
Hahaha If it wasn’t for my go getter personality. I will always suggest 9-5 or something more secured is always better. I believe this industry is vast enough even during bad times small operation like mine can alway find a way out.
I tried invoicing for a whole year on my first year. That was a nightmare. There was one that took 60days to pay. After all that work. I just factor all my loads. So much and pain free.
Definitely an option. I’m gonna stick it out a little longer and see it goes. I’m still doing ok. As soon as I can no longer average above 1$/mile after my running expenses. I will be recalibrating.
I was doing OK in the middle of the country. I was using Truckstop for a little bit and saw that DAT and TruckStop was about the same in terms of load postings even on open deck. As far as west coast maybe a little different but in the Columbus, OH area was about similar from when I was subscribed to Truckstop. I wanna like Truckstop but I got accustomed to DAT and it’s a lot easier to my eyes. Maybe I’ll give it a shot again in the future. Definitely not looking forward to deadheading out of Denver :-)
@@charleswilliams1143 of course it does. But, you would have to educate yourself on what has really went on with democrat donors. California has been attacking small businesses for decades now.
It's been like that since 3 years ago🤙🤙🤙🤙
I guess I never really felt it since I’m just a small operation.
I hope you read this but your vid quality is really good I hope you get the u tube fame! Good luck #subscribed
Thank you 🙏.
Youre right about King of freight. That brokerage is full of absolute dirtbags.
Agree 💯
I was booking a load yesterday in el paso 1d a mile to cali i told the broker hey this load should pay more and she answered: well i know but drivers are taking it... ITS OUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY NO TO CHEAP LOAD MOTHAFUKERS ..
I agree 💯
Why are you so upset? Someone is making money off of this load if not they will go out of business.
For me, I can’t run at 1dollar/mile into cali so I’d pass on this load. If all the loads only paid 1d/mile then I’d run elsewhere. What does this tell you? You have to get leaner or find another line of business or take some time off.
I’m American so it’s my “right” to run cheap and go out of business.
@@kyu2u2Because people like that are making everyone's life hell cause they're hauling cheap freight making all truckers look stupid and work for peanuts. You don't know lane rates, or the trucking market, Or what it cost to operate a semi truck. Bozos like that never last in tracking
On Monday I deadhead to CA from WA 700 miles cause there was barely any loads or cheap AF. I said fuk this I'm not haul for nothing.
I do dry van 500 miles radius from LA/Inland Empire and usually could get around $3 per mile heading out but coming back is trash. I was stuck in Modesto for a day trying to get a load back. Loads heading back to SoCal is like $1.60. And Loads disappear quickly from load boards. Good luck out there fellas.
3$ up and 1.6$ down is an average of 2.3 I wonder how are people doing with those numbers.
Great video keep them coming just like this, love the longer videos and rate/load board updates
Thank you 🙏
You do some great videos bro. Keep doing what you're doing. I enjoy your perspectives.
Thank you 🙏
California especially Southern California is not a Flatbed market it's a Dry Van and Reefer Market!!
I agree but you would think a market that size there bound to be some that will popup. There were some while I was there but the couple I did see were in the Madera area and 240miles away paid good but needed to be picked up right away.
DAT are fixed price…so brokers could lower even further the prices …or as they call ,negotiate from trash price to something to make it movable…and many are buying DAT stories
I was doing power only garbage and switched to hauling loads for another company that had their own accounts and have never been better.
Nice… I would agree that someone with their own accounts will do much better in this current market.
@@pinoytrucking and I’m still power only. I don’t have a trailer payment t or trailer maintenance or trailer insurance to worry about.
Search CL transportation jobs then search owner operator. Lots of jobs on there looking for owner ops. Most of them paying much more than 2$ per mile
And the loads still keep flying off the load. The brokers smell the desperation, so negotiation is very hard.
They do like hot cakes hehehe
🎯🎯🎯They exploit the desperation to the fullest
Bro, 7 drop is fantastic. By the time you're at your 4th drop, You're getting same mpg as empty. The extra fuel you're saving will be enough to deadhead to Boston, And there is always something out of Boston
I agree but $$$ wasn’t enough. I won’t be seeing that last drop off my trailer until Friday more than likely. Then I would need to dead head out. Would be too late to get a load then.
$150 a month for DAT?! We’re paying over $700/month for the Canadian equivalent and their partner, LoadLink
All that extra not worth it, pay $43 a month, and know your numbers to negotiate.
@@DavidTrucker-lo4bs What do you mean? We haul off the load board exclusively for the time being
@@Adam-Woodswhy you paying $700?
That’s crazy high… you guys must have a lot of features activated or even personal/direct contact that can handle your technical difficulties at any given moment.
@@pinoytrucking This isn’t even the top tier package… there’s one more level that offers website services, rate index, and ACE manifest services. I do have two personal contacts I use for tech support, so that’s cool.
I wish we could see the rates posted right on the board like y’all. It’s rare for that to happen, it’s almost always a bid system to see how cheap they can get it moved for 😂
Good video, quality is insane!
I’m looking for a team Guaranteed $4200 a week moving or not EAY better than dinosaur miles that’s $2100 a week per driver hit me back
Not a bad deal
Hey Pinoi thanks for those out there experience.
Usyhow is your modo operating with brokers, stick with olds or deal with every new brokers when they have the load you want?
Take care and be safe out there!
I kind of enjoy the hustle behind it I think. There are some brokers that I wouldn’t mind pulling for but the problem is; most of these loads are just trash from the contract freight that is being rejected by the contractors.
Honestly all the ports I drove over weren’t busy and all my drivers said the same no inspections parking lots empty.
I think blitz week was a fake this time around
So they gonna do it first thing Monday hehehe…
I got a lvl 2 in illinois on Monday and a lvl 1 in New Mexico on Thursday
(passed both)
“I don’t know” , “You know” “you know” x1000
Set your own TONU rates. Who are brokers to tell you what your time and miles are worth. Y’all give them WAY TO MUCH POWER and CONTROL.
Oregon, is also very cheap.
I never understand how people make money off the loadboard in Oregon really. Their road tax is too high.
Have you tried truck smarter load broad it's free
Never heard of that. Thank you 🙏
@@pinoytrucking yes sir and it's free
Book the cheap load, then when the time coming, tell him I’m broke down and you have to reject the load
You a savage hahaha
we need to play a game with Broker
Race to the bottom too many drivers.At least 33 drivers available per load
We don’t stand a chance at those ratio… :-(
If the indapendants consolidated into one corporation the rates would come up. Just offer fuel and insurance.
Double brokered load.
I agree…
Texas is where you want to get flat bed, step deck work.
Hirap tlga ngayon at mura ang fright rate
Oo nga. Sana mas maganda sa midwest.
Hard to believe anybody still surviving out there. Guess they’re weeding out the weak lol
Cali is a border issue what can i say
Barstow is ugly. Keep your curtains closed driver
Hahaha 😂
It should be illegal to pay these rates
I’m $147k year-to-date to my truck after carriers cut of 10%
Maybe you should dispatch my truck hehehe
@@pinoytrucking just call DE transport out of MN.
Lmao 🤣 what did you fools think would happen to many foreigners coming in on work visas and dropping the rates
I wouldn’t be taking bad about people not being able to speak English. Some of the best people I know can’t really speak English but they have the purest heart.
Sad to say if you are relying on any spit market freight you are doomed
Most of the decent paying loads not reaching load board, brokers emailing lists of loads, that were I grabbing them, last week I booked for my owner operator flatbed load from Santa Ana, CA- Elk Grove Village, IL 32,000 of crane parts with 6’ tarp for $4,575.
I am not saying that is super duper rate, but at least it’s not bad, and IL is decent market
Yeah that’s a good not bad to be in IL… I also had Bennett email me about a load but it needed tarp. I’m too old to be tarping hahaha
thats because cali is swamped with b2 carriers taking a $1 a mile out
Yeah it’s nuts…
If they would stop taking cheap frei😅
Tell that to Mexico and Canada drivers, they have saturated the Trucking market in the US
You have to go into Cali with great $ and arrive before a Wednesday to load partial and pick and choose what partials work for you the rest of the week and make decent money out and start hading east Friday with 3-5 Partials.. be done by Tuesday- Wednesday the following week.
People running 1n1 out of cali most of the time are desperate or rookies running cheap freight
I did see a lot of that… Lessoned learned. I was trying to put a partial together but one of the brokers I guess he couldn’t wait a few seconds for me to look up a distance to see if I can make his timeframe. Oh well…
Bingo shit ain't hard man. I'm a welder now but lol this was my bread and butter when I was trucking
Uber, Truckstop, Convoy, TruckSmarter, Mudflap are the same rates. All rates are lower than BEFORE covid/2020
hey pinoy the load board is TRASH everywhere fam ,,,from amazon to Schneider jb hunt dat load board and uber freight the list goes on and on ,,,,hey super trucker dan seems to be doing well at MERCER .take care and good luck.
Definitely has crossed my mind to switch. For now I’m still doing ok. If I must I will do so. Hopefully things do get better before they get any worst.
California, Oregon and Washington the same garbage.
Agree…
That juice ain't worth the squeeze!😢😢😢😢
There’s gotta be some type of juice left hehehe.
Youre talking about the Midwest states. They are keeping American truck drivers going right now.
I agree
Thanks for the professional insight brother.
Welcome 🙏
Freight rates have not changed in twenty years. Meanwhile everything else has doubled and tripled in price.
sick video once again brother! hopefully it gets good soon smh
Hey man I thought you live in Las Vegas?
I do live in Las Vegas but on the lower 48 at the moment 😂
@@pinoytrucking cool are you done with poker?
It's across the board, have not seen good money in 3yrs
I emptied out in Rockford Thursday am and made about 30 calls before i got a load at 1:30 Friday in muscatine Iowa going to st Louis. Not a great rate but it was better then sitting there until Monday.
I feel like it’s specially tougher this last week and this week.
We should all the Currier play this game
I agree 💯
Great video, but I think you should upgrade your membership. There’s a feature on the upgraded package that allows you to look at the market in different states. Also how you filter plays a big part. Nonetheless, the spot market is terrible because of the high amount of carriers. Also carriers that will take anything, the brokers taste blood in the water. Good luck, it’s tough for everyone out here.
Thank you 🙏. I’m able to see rates per region but not per state. Maybe I will upgrade to a higher tier. Thanks
My first ever trip to California I took a load of pipe through grimes canyon 😅
Oops.
Wow beautiful country side tho…
Bossing, it's da NBA semifinals! Go Oilers down to Vancouver Canucks
Let’s go…!
Are the Landstar loads good paying?
Not even… There are some loads that Landstar agents post that would pay above average but coming from Southern California on open deck. They’re all the same. They play the market rates.
@pinoytrucking thank you for reply. Are the overweight loads for 3 axle RGN loads also shit prices too? I'm just curious if the heavy haul market is also really bad. I'm more interested in just overweight and not so much over dimensional. Like heavy equipment hauling.
Good luck coming out Colorado 😮
I know hahaha
What are your thoughts now on Uber/Lyft vs owner operator ? Money wise, headache and home time.
Uber and lyft is trash
Hahaha If it wasn’t for my go getter personality. I will always suggest 9-5 or something more secured is always better. I believe this industry is vast enough even during bad times small operation like mine can alway find a way out.
You tilt the mast forward until it gets low enough to haul.
We tried that. We gain just a couple of inches.
Hello Pinoy, have you as a small business unit been left in the cold on the payment before? Victim of double brokering not getting paid?
I tried invoicing for a whole year on my first year. That was a nightmare. There was one that took 60days to pay. After all that work. I just factor all my loads. So much and pain free.
@pinoytrucking makes sense thank you
Why don't you just work for a well established trucking firm? Leave the business side for the future
Definitely an option. I’m gonna stick it out a little longer and see it goes. I’m still doing ok. As soon as I can no longer average above 1$/mile after my running expenses. I will be recalibrating.
Great point because an individual can always go back to it. Either that or take your chances if u can afford it.
Dat is not for flatbed/stepdeck truckstop loadboard has more loads for that lane, also everywhere is trash now
Also have fun deadheading out of colorado state😂
I was doing OK in the middle of the country. I was using Truckstop for a little bit and saw that DAT and TruckStop was about the same in terms of load postings even on open deck. As far as west coast maybe a little different but in the Columbus, OH area was about similar from when I was subscribed to Truckstop. I wanna like Truckstop but I got accustomed to DAT and it’s a lot easier to my eyes. Maybe I’ll give it a shot again in the future.
Definitely not looking forward to deadheading out of Denver :-)
It’s the same loads on both.
PO out of there probably had 3 or 4 loads, 300+ loads would be choice overload!
Good video
Great video !
That’s why I haven’t got into owner op
Smart of you . I am transitioning back to company driver. I will have to take a loss on my equipment though. O/O is dead
Blame the way you people vote in to your government.
Spot on
Huh? 😂😂😂😂 so politics control the rates? I’m asking because find that hard to believe.
@@charleswilliams1143 of course it does. But, you would have to educate yourself on what has really went on with democrat donors. California has been attacking small businesses for decades now.
You never been a truck driver before and you can definitely tell.
The government has nothing to do with rates.
@monstergenius69 The government does set policy when it comes to the economy and taxes, which as a result...effects freight rates.
You should use Truckstop load board