Both were phenomenal in their own right. Clint is continuing to amaze me- still directing and producing and acting at 92. That's an amazing feat in itself. May John Wayne continue to rest peacefully. 🕊️🙏❤️
john wayne was not phenominal..he was a clear racist....and people thatr loved him loved slavery, the confederacy and wanted to keep black people in a servitude position....
idk this strikes me as overblown Hollywood chatter. Sure maybe Wayne didn't see eye to eye on how the Western was to be portrayed but if "the Hostiles" was ever a viable script it would have been made with a replacement. Honestly probably better they each did their own thing. Love Clint Eastwood but hate how people try to pit them against each other. They were men of different eras. Wayne's mystique depended on him continuing to portray the classic American Male while Eastwood's mystique was dependent on being the anti-hero. Both were great.
John Wayne was a drunk, a notorious womanizer and a miserable excuse for a man. He whined his way out of military service during World War II using his children as an excuse.. When that didn't work he blamed a football injury. Then he began acting in War films and a good many Americans labeled him a Hero. Men like Audie Murphy were Heroes. John Wayne was a good actor but, he was never man enough to shine Clint Eastwood's shoes..
@@gloriahendry-joseph8427 John Wayne was a decade older than the top draft age when the war started and his Hollywood career was just taking off. If he joined he probably would have been relegated to doing PR work for the military. He felt he could do a better job of that making War movies back home. Audie Murphy wasn't an actor before the war, he got famous IN the war and then became a star so there's really no comparison there. Also I see you don't hold Clint Eastwood to account for not joining the military during Vietnam. I don't blame anybody for not signing up for war. The only ones that deserve blame are draft dodgers. And as for drunkenness, so what? He's hardly the first or the worst Hollywood drunk in History. And Clint Eastwood was a notorious womanizer as well. Some people just like to hate on John Wayne, it's usually based off half truths...
@@lynncantrell2782 I thought the spaghetti westerns were the best. They had more style than anything Wayne ever made. His films were boring in comparison to Eastwood's own westerns as well.
Says a lot about Eastwood that he persistently reached out to Wayne. Showed him a lot of respect. His ego was definitely in check. Wayne was a narrow minded jackass on this one. What a wasted opportunity. I liked both, I like Eastwood's films better. He was innovative and wasn't afraid to take chances. He breathed new life into an old genre in more ways than one. He managed to be creative while still clinging to the essence of what the Western is supposed to be. Conversely, an argument could be made that, to some extent, Wayne kept making the same movie over and over. Fortunately, for Wayne his last picture "The Shootist" allowed him to step outside the box a bit and show his more vulnerable side. Sadly, it was art imitating life. Glad they were able to come to a mutual understanding before Wayne died.
Clint Eastwood is my favorite and I grew up on John Wayne and Clint Eastwood with my Dad. I enjoyed Eastwoods westerns more along with his action movies.
I'm sorry John Wayne was great but Clint made a more realistic portrayal of a western gunslinger more an anti hero than a wholesome good guy gentleman.
Let's get something straight compare Wayne's clean cut immaculate sets and clean wardrobes not to mention the boring scripts. It was nothing compared to Eastwood realistic dirty wild west world. Eastwood wins EVERYTIME.
To me, Clint Eastwood makes for a great outlaw, and bounty Hunter. John Wayne makes a good marshal, hired gun, or a straight up cowboy. In a sense, Clint is better for an anti hero/villain role, John Wayne is better for being a hero
Jimmy Stewart is one of my favorite actors a Great Western Actor great movies like Shenandoah, the man from Laramie, How the West Was Won, Winchester 73, the man who shot Liberty Valance
I prefer Clint, Wayne is extremely lucky Ford and Hawks took a liking to him. Clint also made his own movies, all solid not masterpieces like Ford but he knew his limitations lol
Different ways of making westerns Wayne had the spotlight for five decades so time to move over and Let new talent appear Anyway both had the gun as the main attraction and who was Faster on the draw!
John Wayne is doing the right ways and will not shoot somebody in the back. The other Clint Eastwood, he doesn’t care about right ways and he’s a man with no name and will shoot someone in the back. Both are right in their ways and it’s no right or wrong ways. It depends who you like.
It's probably generational, but Wayne's movies were very 1 dimensional. Good guys does good things, bad guy does bad things, good guy wins. This can be satisfying on some levels, but when you know that real people are far more complicated than that, and everyone is a different shade of gray, you prefer Eastwood westerns that more deeply mine the depths of the human soul.
John Wayne wanted special treatment due to his ego Clint Eastwood made the effort to film with Wayne but Wayne acted like a spoiled Hollywood legend and refused the role Eastwood played a much better western star than John Wayne did in my opinion John Wayne acted gripey and mean in all his roles his characters were all the same .. he bores me Eastwood took westerns to a whole new level and brought in a much younger audience John Wayne was washed up and grumpy full of vennom for Eastwood out of jealousy and envy Eastwood kept westerns going a couple more decades
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Wayne was a pompous, B-grade "actor". It's not surprising that he couldn't cope with "the new guard" - he was too set in his old ways and mythology of the old West. It turned out that those Spaghetti Westerns were much closer to the truth at least where the ruggedness of the characters and the filth was concerned. Sergio Leone wouldn't have dreamed of having a Sheriff or Cowboy Hero in white shirt and a clean hat etc. I have seen many films with Wayne.... he couldn't act, he always played himself, which was a bland, colourless character with a big mouth.
Rick Lee, erm, bgrade actor?? Wrong on all counts, that is, every point you made!!!!! How very embarrassing for you!! Eastwood liked Wayne's western characters, and has praised his performance in the 'the searchers' why do you think he wanted to make a western with him🤔🙄, clint would not want any actor who couldn't act in one of his films, sheesh😕
Thank you! I love westerns, but I didn't watch many of John Wayne’s movies, I would prefer to read a book. You are correct there was no depth to Wayne’s acting.
@@sharonsmalls6846 watch 'Red river', 'the searchers' 'the shootist' but I guess you still won't get it🙄, you are limited in your knowledge of acting, it isn't all about Marlon brando and laurence olivier type performances, 😕
@@dougreed2257 I'm going to release you. I'm a stranger on social media. You do not have to care about what I like. Guess what I do not care what you do or don't like. John Wayne to me was a B-grade actor. I could care less what Hollywood or anyone else thinks. I didn't care for him. It's okay if you like him, watch him. I am not going out of my way to watch him. I didn't like him in the 1960s, like I said I prefer to watch someone else or read. I would rather read a comic book than watch a John Wayne movie.
A couple of cacks. Stand upwind of both. Great movies, tiny wieners. Shootist beats the hell out of Eastwoods big hits. Too bad for Wayne that Opie stole every scene in the picture.
John Wayne was a draft dodger and Clint Eastwood wasn't. (and don't give me that crap about Wayne's bum knee. there were plenty of jobs to assist with the war effort than actual combat)
he used black people on his sets...and in his movies...and didnt like any of them...he nwas a hypocrite...but his love of money overcame his racist attitude...at least when it came to work...
@@lynncantrell2782 i watched a documentary about his life and he hated black people and native americans...and mexicans...if you watch all his early movies, not a black man in the cast...and this was from the history channel, nothing fake about it...black people loved clint eastwood...but we hated and still hate john racist azz wayne
Some differences were no doubt generational. John Ford introduced Wayne to Wyatt Earp, who got into western movie consultation late in life. Wayne, according to Wayne's son Patrick, modeled his acting style on what he discussed with Earp. So, there was a connection to a past about "rules", real or mythical, on law, order, & honor. And, that's reflected in Wayne movies. Wayne therefore didn't like Eastwood's characters, especially where Eastwood's character in one movie shot a guy in the back. Wayne seems to have seen that kind of portrayal as an attack on the honor of those real lawmen who had an impossible job to do & deserved "hero" like depictions. Two different generations though, & obviously truth in both & myth in both. Wayne my favorite, but still watch Eastwood's movies too.
I don't think it was Clint that John didn't care for. It was the fact that John's time as the big man. In westerns was coming to an end. As was his life and being on top for all those years. How would you feel about it. really be honest with us and yourself. I was lucky enough to have enjoyed the both of them. I was lucky to have seen them both.
I totally agree with what you said about John Wayne being jealous of Clint Eastwood and that shows more than ever in that one last movie he made where he tried to be like Dirty Harry that was a joke Clint Eastwood is the number one Western hero of my time and will always be
Two different types of actors, but for several similar roles. It is too bad that John Wayne refused to work with Clint Eastwood... Other actors who did work with Clint Eastwood, found him to be good to work with, and it expanded their careers.... The generation gap was probably the main thing that sperated the two of them... The movie could only have one name that recieved top billing... I liked both of them, but from movies of a different era....
I read that Wayne said he didn't like Clint way of shooting people in his films . It did sound like he had falling out his audience being much older whole a a younger actor was taking the reins from him. Wayne really no one taking nothing from him he was a icon but guess it was his ego getting to him.
First you have to really like westerns to share an opinion. Second, comparing wayne westerns to Sergio Leone Eastwood westerns is like comparing a meatball sub in some small town Texas to polpette al pane in Palermo Italy. Clint westerns were perfection in cinematography, soundtrack, supporting actors, did I mention Ennio Morricone did the soundtrack. No comparison whatsoever.
John Wayne was always John Wayne. That’s why he was so popular. Clint was always Clint Eastwood, and that’s why he was so popular. That’s what great stars are made of, themselves. I like them both no matter the role they played.
John was jealous of the younger , more handsome new guy, but historians will never call the Duke petty, and it sound’s like he was . Yes Clint is conservative, but John was more MAGA/ Oath Keepers type ,
Clint was the same as well, always played a asshole no 1 would have really liked or let get away with the shit he pulled, john wayne had respect and didn't mind having comedy, clint is the same in everything an quite boring. But all can see your a big duke hater. Loser in truth.
Anyone who thinks John Wayne couldn't act didn't pay attention. Clint Eastwood is a national treasure for sure! Both men are Kings, only in different eras.....
egos always get in the way, there's not a lot of humility in Hollywood I'm sure it's extremely hard to recognize you got to step aside or step down because of age and fading popularity it happens to all of us
It's pretty obvious John Wayne was jealous of Clint Eastwood. Nowhere in this did I hear an actual reason he didn't like Clint Eastwood. Because movie wise, whether you like Clint or not his portrayal of the American cowboy helped make the genre. So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see The Duke saw a younger, big and imposing guy giving him competition in Westerns. Potentially taking jobs away from him. This definitely makes John Wayne sound like an egotistical prick.
Actually, Wayne never personally disliked Eastwood, because he didn't really know him personally and didn't meet him until 1976. He disliked his portrayal of the West in some of his movies. They actually met on the set of The Shootist after their dispute over High Plains Drifter, and by most accounts the meeting was actually cordial as they found common ground on several political issues. There is nothing definitive to suggest that he was that jealous of him. Granted, Eastwood's career was really taking off in the 70's, whereas Wayne's was on the downside plus his health was deteriorating by that time. And many of Wayne's movies from the 70's didn't do particularly well at the box office even though some were later regarded as classics. So its not a stretch to say Wayne might have had a little professional jealousy for Eastwood, that hardly makes him an egotistical prick. and Eastwood didn't really cost Wayne any jobs either, in fact Wayne was offered the role of dirty Harry first but turned it down which he later admitted was a mistake. If Wayne was jealous of Eastwood, it probably was a mistake to turn down starring in a movie with him, because it would have been a chance to cement his legacy even further. But he was still an iconic figure even in the 70's.
@@joshlight6892 my question is how do you know John Wayne didn't like Clint Eastwood personally? Because you make it sound like you know for a fact. Clearly you are a fan of his and that's fair enough. But you said he never cost Wayne any jobs and while that may have some truth, by the 70s Eastwood was more popular. So yeah, professional jealousy was more than likely a factor. The fact he wouldn't do a Western with Clint speaks volumes here. Because it would've been epic and good for both of them. It's also pretty clear Clint respected John and wanted to make peace with him. And I'm guessing that's why he talked politics going to see him on the set of The Shootist(which by the way is one of my favorite westerns ever). Point being all signs based on the evidence presented in the video doesn't paint John Wayne in the best of lights. It makes him seem a bit bitter and insecure about his spot in westerns. If that's the case it's understandable as by that point he was aging and nearing the end of his career.
@@joshlight6892Wayne never could have carried the Dirty Harry roles. He would have been one, and done! That would have been one of the biggest mistakes ever made in movies.
@@crazyfun5150 by all accounts they didn't meet until 1976, and Wayne was known to have inquired about Eastwood's politics when he found out he was visiting. So its pretty obvious he didn't know Eastwood well enough to dislike him personally. But I can buy he may have been a little jealous of him.
I've always been intrigued by the idea of a John Wayne like character in a Clint Eastwood like western. Putting the fear of God into everyone. Except Clint of course who he would find perplexing. Would have been a helluva movie.
Was John Wayne really obtuse enough to not grasp that High Plains Drifter wasn't trying to be an authentic depiction of the old west? It has a distinct supernatural element for one, and the themes are as much biblical as they are western.
John Wayne was a legend in his own right, but his early cowboy movies were so anti Native American themed, it turned my stomach to watch a couple of them. With Eastwood, his role in Westerns was more perceptive to Native Americans, which was so much better.
People, if you never heard this coming out of Clint’s or Wayne’s mouth then don’t believe this nonsense of a video! John Wayne and Clint Eastwood admired each other. Yes they had some differences, but they respected each other
Eastwood said that he would ve made the shootist quite different,but Wayne had a distaste for shooting any one in the back, or something like that. Clint to his credit was a visionary and was ahead of his time,he knew how much both of them working together would ve meant for future generations,Wayne was a man of his time,stuck in that era.
Duke didn't like the fact that Clint shot people in the back on film. He considered him a coward. The difference between the two is....... John Wayne was America Personified, all that was truth patriotic and unwaveringly strong. Clint Eastwood was just a great actor.
JW represented a celebration if the American spirit while CE represented scripts that dwelled more on misanthropy but looked and sounded really cool doing it. CE nearly always played the morally ambiguous "hero" while Wayne tried to be the virtuous hero, to set an example.
Love both actors but John Wayne seems to have a stereotypical vision of the west where Clint Eastwood had a variety of ways to making the west entertaining. High Plains Drifter is one of my favorites and El Dorado is one of my favorite John Wayne movies.
I’m actually glad they never worked together. Clint Eastwood joined the military, served his country and saw action in Korea. John Wayne on the other hand, was a draft dodging coward, who fought tooth and nail to avoid being conscripted during the Second World War. Claiming that the draft would affect his career and that he was needed for moral purposes, despite being relatively unknown at the time. Stars with much bigger names at the time, such as James Stewart, Henry Fonda and Clark Gable eagerly volunteered for front line action. Which makes Wayne’s shirking all the more despicable.
No difference between Sinatra fearing Elvis...At least Sinatra had the common sense and self awareness 2 eventually embrace Elvis thanks 2 Nancy and to his good fortune
Both were great in their lifetimes! John Wayne had a certain way of acting to please people! Clint Eastwood was great at acting and great at directing his films! This is what sets Eastwood far better than Wayne, Eastwoods storyline films were great! Wayne didn't have that talent!
@@rajenpillay4443 We were kids and we used to watch his movies early 80s and we used to like his movies ... we used to see him as sone kind of hero . Now that I am in my 40sI believe he's overrated, boring .. He was so jealous of Clint Eastwood and Sergio Leone Movies because their movies are 10000000 times Better and Funnier .
He was scared that Eastwood was making great western films and he slowly knew that western movies were changing into new directions and he knew that he was the thing of the past
I like them both, but I can see why these guys felt the way they did in a leftist commie town like Hollywood. Either way the two were too big to fit on the same screen, it would be like placeing two roosters in a cage together, and expect them to get along. High Plains Drifter is one of my all time favorites, no wonder thr Duke hated it... LOL it was too good.
To tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth… I miss them both, they were the best! John Wayne has passed, and Clint Eastwood is way over the hill.
Whos films did you like better?
Clint! Not even close.
@@dwaynem.1194 also Clint, he is more innovated
What background music
Clints movies all day.
I like them both. As for a favorite, I don't know. It's either the Searchers or Unforgiven.
Both were phenomenal in their own right. Clint is continuing to amaze me- still directing and producing and acting at 92. That's an amazing feat in itself.
May John Wayne continue to rest peacefully. 🕊️🙏❤️
john wayne was not phenominal..he was a clear racist....and people thatr loved him loved slavery, the confederacy and wanted to keep black people in a servitude position....
Well said.👍
idk this strikes me as overblown Hollywood chatter. Sure maybe Wayne didn't see eye to eye on how the Western was to be portrayed but if "the Hostiles" was ever a viable script it would have been made with a replacement. Honestly probably better they each did their own thing. Love Clint Eastwood but hate how people try to pit them against each other. They were men of different eras. Wayne's mystique depended on him continuing to portray the classic American Male while Eastwood's mystique was dependent on being the anti-hero. Both were great.
John Wayne was a drunk, a notorious womanizer and a miserable excuse for a man. He whined his way out of military service during World War II using his children as an excuse.. When that didn't work he blamed a football injury. Then he began acting in War films and a good many Americans labeled him a Hero. Men like Audie Murphy were Heroes. John Wayne was a good actor but, he was never man enough to shine Clint Eastwood's shoes..
@@gloriahendry-joseph8427 John Wayne was a decade older than the top draft age when the war started and his Hollywood career was just taking off. If he joined he probably would have been relegated to doing PR work for the military. He felt he could do a better job of that making War movies back home. Audie Murphy wasn't an actor before the war, he got famous IN the war and then became a star so there's really no comparison there. Also I see you don't hold Clint Eastwood to account for not joining the military during Vietnam. I don't blame anybody for not signing up for war. The only ones that deserve blame are draft dodgers. And as for drunkenness, so what? He's hardly the first or the worst Hollywood drunk in History. And Clint Eastwood was a notorious womanizer as well. Some people just like to hate on John Wayne, it's usually based off half truths...
I’ll take eastwood all day
Clint is a better actor & certainly a better director.
Your opinion! You are either a John wayne fan or Clint Eastwood.
I’m personally a John wayne fan.
I hated spaghetti westerns
@@lynncantrell2782 I thought the spaghetti westerns were the best. They had more style than anything Wayne ever made. His films were boring in comparison to Eastwood's own westerns as well.
Wayne was a better racist though..
Says a lot about Eastwood that he persistently reached out to Wayne. Showed him a lot of respect. His ego was definitely in check. Wayne was a narrow minded jackass on this one. What a wasted opportunity.
I liked both, I like Eastwood's films better. He was innovative and wasn't afraid to take chances. He breathed new life into an old genre in more ways than one. He managed to be creative while still clinging to the essence of what the Western is supposed to be.
Conversely, an argument could be made that, to some extent, Wayne kept making the same movie over and over. Fortunately, for Wayne his last picture "The Shootist" allowed him to step outside the box a bit and show his more vulnerable side. Sadly, it was art imitating life. Glad they were able to come to a mutual understanding before Wayne died.
I like them both, but if you want to get right down to it. Either one portrays the west the way it really was.
Neither one.✌
Clint Eastwood is much much better.the original bad ass.
This town ain't big enough for both of them. That's a shame.
JW knew Clint was a better actor
A western in the style of First Blood with these two would have been something.
Wayne's movies are all dated and virtually unwatchable these days, while Clint's are still glittering classics.
Clint Eastwood is my favorite and I grew up on John Wayne and Clint Eastwood with my Dad. I enjoyed Eastwoods westerns more along with his action movies.
That's your opinion. I still love watching John Wayne westerns, and many agree with me.
Clints talent is the only thing that separates him from John.✌
I'm sorry John Wayne was great but Clint made a more realistic portrayal of a western gunslinger more an anti hero than a wholesome good guy gentleman.
Let's get something straight compare Wayne's clean cut immaculate sets and clean wardrobes not to mention the boring scripts. It was nothing compared to Eastwood realistic dirty wild west world.
Eastwood wins EVERYTIME.
To me, Clint Eastwood makes for a great outlaw, and bounty Hunter. John Wayne makes a good marshal, hired gun, or a straight up cowboy. In a sense, Clint is better for an anti hero/villain role, John Wayne is better for being a hero
You are a clown.
I preferred James Stewart's westerns over Wayne's
Jimmy Stewart is one of my favorite actors a Great Western Actor great movies like Shenandoah, the man from Laramie, How the West Was Won, Winchester 73, the man who shot Liberty Valance
Me too.
Couldn't care less what John Wayne thought. Clint Eastwood was a superior actor who played more than just over the top cowboys
All it takes most is to figure out that you’re not a horrible human being by fact checking that out really fast and then you’re good to go!
Clint Eastwood surpassed John Wayne, simple as that.
DON’T make me choose!
Clint’s stuff has mostly been gritty, really gritty, well that’s why I like it 🤔
He saw genre one way Clint turned it on its ear
I prefer Clint, Wayne is extremely lucky Ford and Hawks took a liking to him. Clint also made his own movies, all solid not masterpieces like Ford but he knew his limitations lol
Duke Wayne was the best. Anyone who thinks all of dukes movies were the same and he just dressed different isn't a true movie fan.
I bet it was an ego thing and competition. Maybe jealousy. No need to be though.
Two totally different animals. Love them both.
Well when you are on your death bed and sinatra says I am not leaving until I see him! you probably were OK Actor and Hollywood success
Different ways of making westerns
Wayne had the spotlight for five decades so time to move over and
Let new talent appear
Anyway both had the gun as the main attraction and who was
Faster on the draw!
John Wayne is doing the right ways and will not shoot somebody in the back. The other Clint Eastwood, he doesn’t care about right ways and he’s a man with no name and will shoot someone in the back. Both are right in their ways and it’s no right or wrong ways. It depends who you like.
It's probably generational, but Wayne's movies were very 1 dimensional. Good guys does good things, bad guy does bad things, good guy wins. This can be satisfying on some levels, but when you know that real people are far more complicated than that, and everyone is a different shade of gray, you prefer Eastwood westerns that more deeply mine the depths of the human soul.
I don’t believe this info
It’s fake and sadly a lot of people is buying this.
No...shit.. John Wayne was way more popular than Clint
??? Huh, how do you know??? One is dead the other so old that?????
Jealousy
John Wayne wanted special treatment due to his ego
Clint Eastwood made the effort to film with Wayne but Wayne acted like a spoiled Hollywood legend and refused the role
Eastwood played a much better western star than John Wayne did in my opinion
John Wayne acted gripey and mean in all his roles his characters were all the same .. he bores me
Eastwood took westerns to a whole new level and brought in a much younger audience
John Wayne was washed up and grumpy full of vennom for Eastwood out of jealousy and envy
Eastwood kept westerns going a couple more decades
Eastwood likely felt the same way toward Wayne.
and both were born under the sign of Gemini. 😀
Both great, I give the nod too Clint. Better actor,right both conservative
Well of course he didn’t like him. He thought he was a liberal all that time
Clint a legend not the best actor best brillent character actor punk
John Wayne was a role model. Clint Eastwood was not.
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John Wayne.....LOL.
Wayne was a pompous, B-grade "actor". It's not surprising that he couldn't cope with "the new guard" - he was too set in his old ways and mythology of the old West. It turned out that those Spaghetti Westerns were much closer to the truth at least where the ruggedness of the characters and the filth was concerned.
Sergio Leone wouldn't have dreamed of having a Sheriff or Cowboy Hero in white shirt and a clean hat etc.
I have seen many films with Wayne.... he couldn't act, he always played himself, which was a bland, colourless character with a big mouth.
I don't still understand how John Wayne won a Oscar and Clint didn't
Rick Lee, erm, bgrade actor?? Wrong on all counts, that is, every point you made!!!!! How very embarrassing for you!! Eastwood liked Wayne's western characters, and has praised his performance in the 'the searchers' why do you think he wanted to make a western with him🤔🙄, clint would not want any actor who couldn't act in one of his films, sheesh😕
Thank you! I love westerns, but I didn't watch many of John Wayne’s movies, I would prefer to read a book. You are correct there was no depth to Wayne’s acting.
@@sharonsmalls6846 watch 'Red river', 'the searchers' 'the shootist' but I guess you still won't get it🙄, you are limited in your knowledge of acting, it isn't all about Marlon brando and laurence olivier type performances, 😕
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I'm going to release you. I'm a stranger on social media. You do not have to care about what I like. Guess what I do not care what you do or don't like. John Wayne to me was a B-grade actor. I could care less what Hollywood or anyone else thinks. I didn't care for him.
It's okay if you like him, watch him. I am not going out of my way to watch him. I didn't like him in the 1960s, like I said I prefer to watch someone else or read. I would rather read a comic book than watch a John Wayne movie.
Should've done a three starred film with Reagan, a Republican western dream team!
John Wayne looked more like an angry grandpa tha a western man. Clint Eastwood has more Personality.
A couple of cacks. Stand upwind of both. Great movies, tiny wieners. Shootist beats the hell out of Eastwoods big hits. Too bad for Wayne that Opie stole every scene in the picture.
John who?
Go to hell
John wayne was bad actor
John Wayne was a draft dodger and Clint Eastwood wasn't. (and don't give me that crap about Wayne's bum knee. there were plenty of jobs to assist with the war effort than actual combat)
he used black people on his sets...and in his movies...and didnt like any of them...he nwas a hypocrite...but his love of money overcame his racist attitude...at least when it came to work...
And how do you know this to be true? Did you hear him ever say he didn’t like black people, or you just believe what you hear from fake news
@@lynncantrell2782 i watched a documentary about his life and he hated black people and native americans...and mexicans...if you watch all his early movies, not a black man in the cast...and this was from the history channel, nothing fake about it...black people loved clint eastwood...but we hated and still hate john racist azz wayne
@@cecilreed7543 and I’m sure you also believe Trump is a racist as well right?
Some differences were no doubt generational. John Ford introduced Wayne to Wyatt Earp, who got into western movie consultation late in life. Wayne, according to Wayne's son Patrick, modeled his acting style on what he discussed with Earp. So, there was a connection to a past about "rules", real or mythical, on law, order, & honor. And, that's reflected in Wayne movies. Wayne therefore didn't like Eastwood's characters, especially where Eastwood's character in one movie shot a guy in the back. Wayne seems to have seen that kind of portrayal as an attack on the honor of those real lawmen who had an impossible job to do & deserved "hero" like depictions. Two different generations though, & obviously truth in both & myth in both. Wayne my favorite, but still watch Eastwood's movies too.
I don't think it was Clint that John didn't care for. It was the fact that John's time as the big man. In westerns was coming to an end. As was his life and being on top for all those years. How would you feel about it. really be honest with us and yourself. I was lucky enough to have enjoyed the both of them. I was lucky to have seen them both.
Wayne was jealous of Clint’s rising popularity, simple as that.
Well and the popularity of ``spaghetti westerns.'' And Clint's ``face fungus.'' Someone of Wayne's generation thought everyone should be clean-cut.
I totally agree with what you said about John Wayne being jealous of Clint Eastwood and that shows more than ever in that one last movie he made where he tried to be like Dirty Harry that was a joke Clint Eastwood is the number one Western hero of my time and will always be
Two different types of actors, but for several similar roles. It is too bad that John Wayne refused to work with Clint Eastwood... Other actors who did work with Clint Eastwood, found him to be good to work with, and it expanded their careers.... The generation gap was probably the main thing that sperated the two of them... The movie could only have one name that recieved top billing... I liked both of them, but from movies of a different era....
When it comes to westerns, I think both men did a great job. Some movies I didnt like, not because of the actors, just the movie itself.
I read that Wayne said he didn't like Clint way of shooting people in his films . It did sound like he had falling out his audience being much older whole a a younger actor was taking the reins from him. Wayne really no one taking nothing from him he was a icon but guess it was his ego getting to him.
First you have to really like westerns to share an opinion. Second, comparing wayne westerns to Sergio Leone Eastwood westerns is like comparing a meatball sub in some small town Texas to polpette al pane in Palermo Italy. Clint westerns were perfection in cinematography, soundtrack, supporting actors, did I mention Ennio Morricone did the soundtrack. No comparison whatsoever.
& my grandmother didnt care much for John Wayne, so what? lol
Go Granny!👵
John Wayne was always John Wayne. That’s why he was so popular. Clint was always Clint Eastwood, and that’s why he was so popular. That’s what great stars are made of, themselves. I like them both no matter the role they played.
You don't think it's a 'blur v oasis' type hype?
No matter what role? Even Genghis Khan? :)
John probably realised he was about to lose the popular spot...
John was jealous of the younger , more handsome new guy, but historians will never call the Duke petty, and it sound’s like he was . Yes Clint is conservative, but John was more MAGA/ Oath Keepers type ,
in other words, and in plain english...he was a RACIST PIG!!! thank you for recognizing that!
Clint was the new James Dean at that time
John seems more like a whiny passive aggressive leftist
Wayne was more Klansman if you've heard him talk about black people.
John Wayne was the same in every film, but just dressed differently.😄, whereas Clint Eastwood was great in all types of film.👌😎
Clint was the same as well, always played a asshole no 1 would have really liked or let get away with the shit he pulled, john wayne had respect and didn't mind having comedy, clint is the same in everything an quite boring. But all can see your a big duke hater. Loser in truth.
That's true. In "The Green Berets" Wayne carried the M16 like it were a Winchester underlever. Lol
Anyone who thinks John Wayne couldn't act didn't pay attention. Clint Eastwood is a national treasure for sure! Both men are Kings, only in different eras.....
egos always get in the way, there's not a lot of humility in Hollywood I'm sure it's extremely hard to recognize you got to step aside or step down because of age and fading popularity it happens to all of us
the searchers the masterpiece of wayne
It's sad that John Wayne didn't like Clint Eastwood. We are supposed to love our neighbors as ourselves no matter what. ✍️✝️
John Wayne never said he didn’t like Clint Eastwood personally! This video is false
Wayne was jealous of Clint.....Clints westerns made way more money than waynes Crap.
@@leostawicki7283 those movies were amazing because of the cinematography…
Clint every time .
It's pretty obvious John Wayne was jealous of Clint Eastwood. Nowhere in this did I hear an actual reason he didn't like Clint Eastwood. Because movie wise, whether you like Clint or not his portrayal of the American cowboy helped make the genre. So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see The Duke saw a younger, big and imposing guy giving him competition in Westerns. Potentially taking jobs away from him. This definitely makes John Wayne sound like an egotistical prick.
Actually, Wayne never personally disliked Eastwood, because he didn't really know him personally and didn't meet him until 1976. He disliked his portrayal of the West in some of his movies. They actually met on the set of The Shootist after their dispute over High Plains Drifter, and by most accounts the meeting was actually cordial as they found common ground on several political issues. There is nothing definitive to suggest that he was that jealous of him. Granted, Eastwood's career was really taking off in the 70's, whereas Wayne's was on the downside plus his health was deteriorating by that time. And many of Wayne's movies from the 70's didn't do particularly well at the box office even though some were later regarded as classics. So its not a stretch to say Wayne might have had a little professional jealousy for Eastwood, that hardly makes him an egotistical prick. and Eastwood didn't really cost Wayne any jobs either, in fact Wayne was offered the role of dirty Harry first but turned it down which he later admitted was a mistake. If Wayne was jealous of Eastwood, it probably was a mistake to turn down starring in a movie with him, because it would have been a chance to cement his legacy even further. But he was still an iconic figure even in the 70's.
@@joshlight6892 my question is how do you know John Wayne didn't like Clint Eastwood personally? Because you make it sound like you know for a fact. Clearly you are a fan of his and that's fair enough. But you said he never cost Wayne any jobs and while that may have some truth, by the 70s Eastwood was more popular. So yeah, professional jealousy was more than likely a factor. The fact he wouldn't do a Western with Clint speaks volumes here. Because it would've been epic and good for both of them. It's also pretty clear Clint respected John and wanted to make peace with him. And I'm guessing that's why he talked politics going to see him on the set of The Shootist(which by the way is one of my favorite westerns ever). Point being all signs based on the evidence presented in the video doesn't paint John Wayne in the best of lights. It makes him seem a bit bitter and insecure about his spot in westerns. If that's the case it's understandable as by that point he was aging and nearing the end of his career.
@@joshlight6892Wayne never could have carried the Dirty Harry roles. He would have been one, and done! That would have been one of the biggest mistakes ever made in movies.
@@stephengolden6080 sheer speculation. and utterly meaningless now.
@@crazyfun5150 by all accounts they didn't meet until 1976, and Wayne was known to have inquired about Eastwood's politics when he found out he was visiting. So its pretty obvious he didn't know Eastwood well enough to dislike him personally. But I can buy he may have been a little jealous of him.
They’re both great. I think had Duke lived longer he would have came around and they would of done something together.
Would have done a darn good cameo in Unforgiven
@@daniellinehan63 I never thought of that. You’re right
I've always been intrigued by the idea of a John Wayne like character in a Clint Eastwood like western. Putting the fear of God into everyone. Except Clint of course who he would find perplexing. Would have been a helluva movie.
Never would have happened.😐
Was John Wayne really obtuse enough to not grasp that High Plains Drifter wasn't trying to be an authentic depiction of the old west? It has a distinct supernatural element for one, and the themes are as much biblical as they are western.
John Wayne was a legend in his own right, but his early cowboy movies were so anti Native American themed, it turned my stomach to watch a couple of them. With Eastwood, his role in Westerns was more perceptive to Native Americans, which was so much better.
What a pity, imagine John Wayne in Lee Van Cleefe's role in 'The Good,the Bad and the Ugly'.One can but dream.Lee was still brilliant though.
He is not so good as a villain
I would buy or rent Eastwood Western movies..
Caint say the same for Wayne
When Wayne was dying he was asked who will be the next great cowboy. The answer was Eastwood.
Screw John Wayne’s soul if he ever had one. He was the biggest racist in Hollywood.
That says it all
Did John Wayne actually say this? I'd never heard this.
@@joshlight6892 in his autobiography.
Some People clap when they see you succeed. Behind the scene they pray for your downfall.
Typical
John Wayne didn't like Gary Cooper and the movie High Noon I consider the best Western made and maybe Shane
People, if you never heard this coming out of Clint’s or Wayne’s mouth then don’t believe this nonsense of a video! John Wayne and Clint Eastwood admired each other. Yes they had some differences, but they respected each other
Eastwood said that he would ve made the shootist quite different,but Wayne had a distaste for shooting any one in the back, or something like that.
Clint to his credit was a visionary and was ahead of his time,he knew how much both of them working together would ve meant for future generations,Wayne was a man of his time,stuck in that era.
That’s why before you put your personal feelings ahead of yourself, you should take the time to find out what the other person is really about.
Duke didn't like the fact that Clint shot people in the back on film. He considered him a coward. The difference between the two is....... John Wayne was America Personified, all that was truth patriotic and unwaveringly strong. Clint Eastwood was just a great actor.
Ok boomer.
Well I guess you can kiss my old ass kid 😏
John Wayne always bored me as a child, EASTWOOD FOR LIFE
John Wayne was a racist and a wannabe cowboy.
Wayne was a foaming at the mouth racist, Eastwood is not.
This explained NOTHING
JW represented a celebration if the American spirit while CE represented scripts that dwelled more on misanthropy but looked and sounded really cool doing it. CE nearly always played the morally ambiguous "hero" while Wayne tried to be the virtuous hero, to set an example.
Love both actors but John Wayne seems to have a stereotypical vision of the west where Clint Eastwood had a variety of ways to making the west entertaining. High Plains Drifter is one of my favorites and El Dorado is one of my favorite John Wayne movies.
this all just sounds like he said she said.
john wsyne far better than eastwood .without wallace eli the good and the bad never became a good movie.
eastwood as actor bad .but the dirty harry movie,s make him popular.
Some stuff between Sly and Arnold in 80s.. it's normal..
He was jealous of Clint . Clint Eastwood was a better cowboy and a better actor .
Your a lib
I disagree
I’m actually glad they never worked together. Clint Eastwood joined the military, served his country and saw action in Korea. John Wayne on the other hand, was a draft dodging coward, who fought tooth and nail to avoid being conscripted during the Second World War. Claiming that the draft would affect his career and that he was needed for moral purposes, despite being relatively unknown at the time. Stars with much bigger names at the time, such as James Stewart, Henry Fonda and Clark Gable eagerly volunteered for front line action. Which makes Wayne’s shirking all the more despicable.
I like both,but I like Wayne's characters better,Eastwood's characters are entertaining but some of them are so dark,jerks and assholes.
No difference between Sinatra fearing Elvis...At least Sinatra had the common sense and self awareness 2 eventually embrace Elvis thanks 2 Nancy and to his good fortune
Both were great in their lifetimes! John Wayne had a certain way of acting to please people! Clint Eastwood was great at acting and great at directing his films! This is what sets Eastwood far better than Wayne, Eastwoods storyline films were great! Wayne didn't have that talent!
Wayne was an angry man
Clint was by far, better on all fronts
Exactly .. Angry and arrogant and his movies are boring as hell .
Your a lib
@@erniecolle154 i am not you conservative 🐷 . Its you"re, not your ....Go to school silly brainwashed trumper
@@F_antomas john had one long lackluster approach to all his roles , there was no variety, no excitement, no value to his roles ...just ego
@@rajenpillay4443 We were kids and we used to watch his movies early 80s and we used to like his movies ... we used to see him as sone kind of hero . Now that I am in my 40sI believe he's overrated, boring .. He was so jealous of Clint Eastwood and Sergio Leone Movies because their movies are 10000000 times Better and Funnier .
He was scared that Eastwood was making great western films and he slowly knew that western movies were changing into new directions and he knew that he was the thing of the past
I like them both, but I can see why these guys felt the way they did in a leftist commie town like Hollywood. Either way the two were too big to fit on the same screen, it would be like placeing two roosters in a cage together, and expect them to get along. High Plains Drifter is one of my all time favorites, no wonder thr Duke hated it... LOL it was too good.
To tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth… I miss them both, they were the best! John Wayne has passed, and Clint Eastwood is way over the hill.
Thank you, Captain Obvious
Maybe because Eastwood wasn't a draft dodger like Wayne?
Red Harlow Vs Arthur Morgan
And you have what for evidence……….. wtf
i like both but eastwood>wayne
Eastwood > Wayne not even a debate !
Sorry this is rumors
John Wayne was a fashie piece of it.