How's Pakistan doing? Pakistan needs India but India doesn't - Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed with Tahir Gora
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Pakistan couldn’t keep their own history documented but ensured that Indian history remains distorted.
Very well said. 👍
Sir it does not have history. Its history the land hindustan partitioned because of Congress. The land its history demographics does not change. Those people are Indian BY blood ancestry whom ever they are hindu sihk muzlim Christian does not matter. It was created by Mr Churchill and the British establishment to buffer Soviet Russia. It has nothing to do with religion ethics humanity or welfare system. History of Hindustan is written by those marters who fought the red coats hindu muzlim sihk were the sons and daughters of freedom of hindustan. These west pk cannot falsefy history as it is written in hindustani blood.
Pakistan history is radical history.
Pakistan does not have any history except last 75 years. It was only india before
Probably that was the best thing thc INC had done since it's inception that they saved india by these savages but unfortunately some savages stayed back who want make india another Pakistan
Brilliant discussion between two true scholar of Pakistan
But, Don't forget that how much Pak. back-stabbed us.
@@kumarabhinav2457 what has that got to do with Ishtiaq Ahmed's work?
@@knots1975 he is also anti hindu
Prof,Istiak ji many many thanks
@@abhishekmaurya-uy7wy You haven't read any of his works. I have. He is not anti Hindu. He is pro truth
Tahir Gora sir 🙏 Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed ji is very knowledgeable person hence your discussion with him will be interesting.
Thanks and stay blessed Tahir sir.
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"Public office is a sacred trust" Golden words. Dr Ishtiyaq Ahmed is a gift to subcontinent. We should strive to deserve this gift.
Tu santra kha
Listen to what he says about the Hindus.
@@gauravtbsl Tujhe samjh nhi aaya kya?
Pehli baat..... Stop parroting the Pakistani vocabulary. It is the INDIAN sub-continent. Not just any sub-continent. They avoid saying "Indian" for a reason. Don't normalize that.
Secondly, there is zero consequences of his life or death on us, let alone the whole Indian sub-continent.
🍿 Popcorn khao, show dekho. Bhas!
@@Vinay_Acharya sahi baat hai
Indian sub continent
Thank you ! My two favourite Erudite speakers of my mother tongue! ❤
Immense respect for both of you gentlemen 🙏🙏
Absolutely engrossing and learning experience. Ramzan Mubarak to both of you, Professor Sahab and Tahir Gora Sahab. May the Almighty bless both of you with good health and more power to spread knowledge.🙏🙏
Love you both . I wish all Pakistanis can think like you . That would boost up the intellect and growth of Pak. I feel bad about you both struggling and feeling helpless to save Pak.
Pak should not be 'saved'. Pak needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history
Always a pleasure to listen to these two esteemed gentlemen. Looking forward to the show in punjabi, also just discovered that the language I speak with my pak and Indian friends is actually Hindustani.
Hindustani = 90% Urdu
Hindustani is not Urdu. Urdu itself is not a independent source language. Urdu does not a mother source language. Urdu is a adjunct language of hindi. More 75% of the words in Urdu comes from hindi and other indian language.
@@bhadwamodi8294 Urdu=70% prakrit.
@Bhadwa Modi that’s fantastic modi ji
I agree on this comment, at least Punjabi should speak Punjabi in both countries
What lovely people you both are! I have read Ishtiaq Ahmed’s book on the Partition of Punjab and I’m so thankful to him with all my heart. Long live the both of you.
Wonderful. Look forward to SERIES OF PUNJABI SHOWS FROM TAG TV 👏👏Bahut dhanvaad
Brilliant conversation and non buyers conversation....Pranam to both scholars from Indian Hindu.
Two amazing human beings having a meaning discussion- thank you to both of you.
Many thanks to both of you Tahir sir and Ishtiaq sir, today you made my heart happy by saying that in the coming days you will do many shows in our mother tongue Punjabi.
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नमस्कार, ताहीर भाई,आप हमेशा हमारे मन की बाते आपके कार्यक्रम मे आमंत्रित मेहमानोसे करते है, आपका बहोत बहोत धन्यवाद, ईश्वर आपको सदा सर्वकाळ आरोग्य,धन, संपदा प्रदान करे
I am trying to sing the song which I have heard since childhood "Yeh zindagi usi ki hai, jo kisi ka ho gaya...."❤
pyaar hi mein kho gaya
Both these gentlemen r very likable & knowledgeable.
With due respect let us understand that it's very difficult to change the mindset of Pakistani people.
Because they’re shaped in madrasas. The ones that do go to universities have to go through the jamaat e islami’s version.
Don't worry about them rather we should learn lesson from thiers past that how much they back-stabbed us!
Don't think about "Aman Ki Asha".
Very true USA intelligence agencies have trained Pakistani Army to develop this mindset of the general public for the last 75 years
Pak needs to normalize ties with USA first, otherwise no one in region would be able to help them including Russia and China. Little neighborhood countries like 'India', Iran and Afghanistan hav no voice even, so who cares hehe.
बहोत अच्छा लगा . यही बाते, यही विचार पाकिस्तानी अवाम की सोच बदल सकता है।
If Pakistanis are waiting for leverage before talking to India, then they can wait forever. Ab hum bolenge, aap sunenge aur karenge wo sab jo Indian awaam chahti hai.
Pakistani establishment will never give a F U C K to India.
Dil khush ho geya sir tusi Punjabi nu eni ijat dinde ho bcz sadi sb di mother tongue Punjabi hai g,, Waheguru Chad di kla ch rakhe sb nu.
Chad da Punjab
Excellent! Always love to hear these two genuine human beings trying to spread peace in the Indian subcontinent! God bless you both!!
Tahir ji, I would love to hear your experience in India where you recently visited for a month. Jai Hind!
Ishtiaq Sb & Tahir Gora Sb,
May both of you live long with good health & prosperity to propagate the message of love for this region of ours !
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Prayers for the ever elusive & everlasting peace between India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh in general & our South of Asia in particular !!!
Aameen, Elaahi Aameen
Sorry... We 🇮🇳 don't trust you Pakistani anymore
As an Indian, always a pleasure to listen to these two Pakistani intellectuals! If Pakistan was only ruled by such people of gravitas, common sense & obviously intellect, it wouldn't have most of the problems it has today!
Sir its womb creation lies in the heart of the British establishment mr gin nah his sister fatmah were indian gujarati Shia muzlim now ironically the mullahs who supported were there sworn enemies sunni muzlim you see my point from its thought lnception lobbying and finally the line in the sand by there British masters gave it to the muzlim west punjabi as a loyalty they showed to the British for in every freedom struggle battle they sided with their British masters against their fellow Indians supplied supported with men from the west punjab and after 47 nothing has changed like then and now old masters are still the real overlords and oversees of Pk no matter by which puppet or general is the face of that creation Sir. They have always stabbed their fellow Indians in the past for money land their treacherous poisonous in mind behaviour and Mr modi or any government should Not ever Trust or reconsider reconcile with Pk. Lessons from past must be learnt if any future security economics is to be established in hindustan. Our blunders signing peace agreements after 47 till now with nothing but dead bodies of hindustan soldiers civilians alike. Stop feeding trading talking as history has thought us. Hindustan destiny lies in its greatness with all hindu muzlim sihk Christian etc.
I agree, but rulers are politicians and they don't let this happen.
there is no greater joy than to have arbirary power over a large population. the rulers of pakistan have really enjoyed it like feudal lords. they are not going to give up this power on their own.
Pak needs to normalize ties with USA first, otherwise no one in region would be able to help them including Russia and China. Little neighborhood countries like 'India', Iran and Afghanistan hav no voice even, so who cares hehe
@@aarifboyThe USA doesn't care about Pakistan anymore - as even some of these Pakistani intellectuals openly say! These same intellectuals also say Pakistan desperately needs to rebuild ties with emerging global superpower India if it has any chance of economic recovery - even if you don't accept this! The USA needed Pakistan before for Afghanistan but this no longer applies. This is why when former P.M. Imran Khan was being ignored by the USA, he started trying to woo Putin! The current Pak gov't are caught between not upsetting their 'Sugar Daddy' China but not wanting to antagonize the Americans either! This is why they didn't join a democratic conference arranged by the US gov't last week in order to appease China but then gave the Americans some pathetic excuse for not attending it!
Wonderful . Happy to hear that you both will do your shows in your mother tongue too. One must remain attached to his roots. 🙏
Sir both of you are in making of history. Shree ishtiaq ji v Shree Tahir ji, I believe that u r the real hero of Pakistan.
"Making history"? 🤔 Did I miss something? What are you exactly referring to?
Prof Ishtiaq Ahmed has sown the seeds of new fresh introspection in Pakistan. Pakistan needs more intellectuals like him.
Well done sir Ishtiaq and gora sir.waiting both of you to have discussion in Panjabi although I am not panjabi but these are our languages and our cultures.
Well.... Pakistani official language is urdu😅
@@raj6559 Har har Urdu
Ghar ghar Urdu
Colloquial Urdu is the lingua franca of Pakistan and North India.
Thank you Tahir and Ishtiaq Sir for Promoting Panjabi and Panjabiyat ❤ From Indian Panjab
May I add Dr.Ishtiaq Ahmed, that there are a large number of people who watch your You Tube discussions and read your books. So do we respect the gently spoken Tahir Gora. From 1400 years in the past some beliefs reached out and kept us apart. We must hope there will be change, but from what you say I very much doubt [I am 69], it will be within my remaining lifetime. As an Indian and a Hindu my respects to both of you🙏🌷
From 1400 years in the past some beliefs reached out and kept us apart - instead From 1400 years in the past some beliefs reached out and kept the WORLD apart.
Delighted to hear some sensible and truthful discussion on Pakistan, history and it's way forward. Education in one's mother tongue especially till middle school really helps in growth of intellect and it's scientifically proven fact.
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The only thing is that Indians may think that people in Pakistan started thinking about normal relationships with India only when they are in crises. I wish these type of feelings would have started in Pakistanis when they were doing well.
Atleast majority of Indians are not delusional about who and what Pakistan was is and always will be.
Enjoyed the discussion of great Ishtiyaq ji and Tahir ji, love from India
Lots of respects and gratitude to the clear thinking/clear talking Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed and to Mr. Gora for hosting such a great conversation.
Wishing you the very best of health and continued sharing of your knowledge and analyses.
Namaskar Professor Ishtiyaq Sahib and Tahir Gora Sahib. Love to read(as and when available) the books authored by Prof. Ishtiaq.
Absolutely lovely discussion. Thank you both!
Tahir saheb. What interview. Superb 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 iam. Gujarat. Hindu Rajput
Both are true gentleman !
Define gentleman !
Respect to both of you from India. 💐💐💐💐💐
your's and Prof Ahmed's positive approach towards Indians and India is well appreciated. Keep it up and spread it amongst Pakistanis.
Brilliant and excellent discussion by both Prof. Ishiaq Ahmed and Tahir Raja sir .They includes historical events of both countries in a mature and realistic way in the discussion . Delighted !.
Unfortunately,the educated and pragmatic people whome Dr Ishtiaq has met here during recent visit have no say in decision making..our people want live peacefully and have normal relationship with india but who listens to them..if we start behaving today and focus on Pakistan things will be better in next 15 to 20 years 🙏🌹🇵🇰
Amjad sahab, wish you a happy Ramzan.
@@blackrockorange Thanks sir, Happy Ramzan to you too🙏
Wish you happy Ramzan Dr Amjad
@@virendraSingh-je3sx Thanks sir 🌹
Pak needs to normalize ties with USA first, otherwise no one in region would be able to help them including Russia and China. Little neighborhood countries like 'India', Iran and Afghanistan hav no voice even, so who cares hehe.
It’s too difficult to teach old Dogs new tricks
New dogs very dangerous and fools in the name of jihad,at least old dogs are some what maturity and knows ancient roots..
Which trick-How To Beg?
u look older than other..and u r right about dogs😊
I am really looking forward to Dr. Ahmed's recent book. I hope it is a bestseller. Good Luck, Sir!!
Very good video. Truth always triumphs.
Sir,you are the champion of Panjabi language and I always love to see you speaking Panjabi which is very sweet because it is our mother tongue
To everyone or for all of us, mother tongue is always the
sweetest.
This's the first time i listened prof. Ishtiak Ahmed and i am impressed..he have some deep knowledge and experience.
It was very pleasant watching and hearing you and your guest Tahir Sahab. Wish you all the best.
Two of my favourite ppl, thank u sir for enlightened discussion 🙏
Amazing talk!!! God bless both gentlemen 🙏🙏🙏
👍 Great conversation
Your final sentences touched my heart. Punjabi language is a language of love. Looking forward to your podcast in Punjabi.
Sir Tahir Gora we Indians love you.Aap ko hamara Salaam Malikum & Namaskar.Ishwar apko lambi umar achhe health ke saath de.
Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed is a very knowledgeable academician and reformer. His presentations promote the reason for the future of Pakistan. I never miss his presentation, and I learn a lot from them. I wish that politicians and intellectuals of Pakistan take his suggestions seriously.
Paaji do not forget to watch the TAG TV show in Punjabi.
I salute both of you
For talk about facts and truth.
It is always pleasure to hear you and prof saheb
Two gentlemen I respect 😊
Both of you true respect 🙏 from my heart from USA and belongs India. I never like your country or never love, but feel very interesting, cause you are always put rational thoughts. 😊
Tahir Gora Sahab is truly Indian DNA and by heart he is true Indian......I think Dr. Istiyak Ahmed is scholar and thinker we appreciate his honest views and analysis. Government of India needs to think on offering PadmShree..PadmVibhushan to such honest people........Also Mr.Sachwala is greatest Brain on Islam for such award.......and honor to recognize their hard work......because they are truly Indian and REFORMING Indian Muslims....
Oe yaar, ruk, pehele thodi sans le, aur phir Padma Shri baant!
Sheikh Chilli hai kya?
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@@agrippa-theskeptic9346 Mungerilal hai haseen sapnay dekh raha hai. Is ke baap ke paas faltu ke PadmShree..PadmVibhushan rakhay hain bantnay ke liye.
Two great personality,🙏🙏🙏🙏
Ishtiaq sir is a very great human being as well as down to earth person I have ever seen
Sir we indians love .respect and admire u guys salute to both of u😊
Professor sir ki kya baat hai, Great Man, He is really Genius, sir ji really we love u.God bless u....Aap ki baaten dil chuh leti hai....Big Big Fan of u.
AAP DONO KI BATEN --BEHAD LOGICAL AUR TRUE HAI .NAMSTE AAP DONO VIDWANO KO
Thank you, Prof. Istiak sir and Tahirji!
Two brilliant, wise and far-sighted individuals at their very best.
A discussion between two truly wise men. A pleasure to listen to.
Two pure pakistan souls in conversation. Real delight to hear both of you
Great, meaningful conversation 👌👌👌
Respected sir, you are the most honest political scientist and historian. Each and every arguments are relevant and embedded in reality. Utpal from Kolkata,westbengal.
Thank you Professor ji. You have a logical mind, worthy of being a true teacher.
Superb discussion between two highly acclaimed speakers and the ending in Punjabi was beautiful 😍
Hi, TAG TV, host Mr. Tahir and guest Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed Sir,
Congratulations!
In simple Punjabi,
"Wah Ji Wah"
Next show in Mother tounge or "Maa Boli", apni Punjabi.
What a wonderful gesture, just by saying you two esteemed gentlemen won millions hearts.
We all proudly says Punjabi is our mother tongue, then how can sons/daughters negate/disrespect our' s mother.
Looking forward to the Channel.
Great discussion!
नमस्कार जी आप के विचार बहुत ही प्रशंसनीय है किंतु पाकिस्तानसे यह भावनाऔर बात आनी चाहिय जिस कलिए अभी समयलगेगा ,प्रयास करते रहे ।
I have utmost respect for professor sahib and Tahir ji. It is a shame that sane and brilliant people like them did not run Pakistan but had to leave. That country let its gems leave and became an originator, sustainer, protector of terrorism and poisonous anti Hindu ideology which has ruined their minds!
You both of u are great scholar and we Indians respect u .
We proud of you both 🙏🇺🇸
Friendship cannot be made with an insane nation
It's not a nation, it's al-bakistan🤡
Agree 💯
Agree 💯
What a great human being Prof. Ahmed is. An enlightened soul, fatherly figure of Indian subcontinent Salute to you both of you. Can you both have a special programme on new book of Prof Ahmed.
I like how you used the term "Indian sub-continent" 👍 Pakistanis usually skip to mention the full phrase and avoid saying "Indian".
I'm such a fan of Prof Ishtiaq Ahmed Saab - love listening to him. Such a knowledgeable and rational man and so so so well spoken.
I am eagerly looking forward for the Punjabi show with professor Sahab. My ancestors are from Wasu, Gujarat, Pakistan. I am born and brought up in Hyderabad Deccan now living in Canada. I am a regular viewer of your shows Tahir Sahab. Keep up the good work.
Brilliant video. The Prof is just superb.
Enjoyed honest conversation with fact base analysis.
I respect both G.man with high status mind attitudes.
Very good work by Prof. Ishtiyaq and Tahir Gora Ji.
Thanks for an open and elaborated discussion. Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed sahib is always appreciated.
👍👍Excellent job Tahirji!!
Ahmed Sir, my respect.
This dialogue is an eye-opener for everyone in the subcontinent. A nation thrives when it's citizens value their own past, own language, own heritage. Religion can't be the basis for nationhood. May good sense prevail prevail everywhere especially in the minds of pakistani politicians
Sir I am an Indian Bengali,i understand and can talk in hindi/Urdu(I think). When I listen to Punjabi,I can also understand it to an extent,at least the meaning of the any conversation I can understand,so if anyone speaks clearly in Punjabi I think all people can understand who knows Hindustani (as being a Bengali if I can understand,the people who speaks hindustani they can easily understand)
Absolute honesty is required between India and Pakistan for peace.
Tahir gora sir & istiaq ahmed sir is very intelligent informative & pieseful man 🙏🙏🙏💐🌹🌷
From Ahmedabad gujarat India se 🙏🇮🇳
Thanks to both for a good discussion .
Two great mind talking.Awesome!!!!
It is not difficult to adopt new ideas,but its very difficult to shed old ideas..thats the tragedy of pakistan
Pakistan always need someone to hold their hands. Initially , it was USA and Middle East Islamic countries but Pakistan’s looting , lying, cheating , robbing his own people and begging under false pretense. I guess all the above , people could see through them and stopped giving free money . Pakistan takes the money in loan with NO intension of paying its debt, it did this to IMF twenty two times and currently it is twenty third time it wants loan from IMF. Is it surprising that IMF has put strict accountability clause ? They got Pakistan ( a Islamic nation ) free gift from India in 1947. They never had to fight for it , never have to work to earn its living . When all avenues are closed because of it misdeeds , they are crying “ wolf “ blaming the world. About time , they look themselves in mirror and do soul searching .
They are incompetent and lazy .
Best wishes to you, professor Sab
Thrillers to see your talk 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Some logical discussion by these two gentlemen
Wow ! What a discussion. 🙏
I am surprised to find such a rational Pakistani scholar. How can a Pakistani be so rational?
I as Indian, Assam, would like to read the book of Prof Ahmed. He is brave enough to criticize Pak Army and hollowness of the Two Nation Theory of Md Ali Jinnah .
I am surprised to find that India doesn't have one rational person like him.