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A few months ago we posted our Top 5 Overrated off roaders video, but this time we wanted to get a bit more accurate and focus on 4x4 utes/pickups.
Also, we’ve decided that as that video already included a few utes, we're not going to repeat those particular models in this video, even though they probably deserve to be in this video again.
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Whoever edited this video could not be paid enough 😂 amazing and informative content. Even though A.K and Jim are awesome and informative individuals, having both of them in car reviews just adds so much more credibility and uniqueness. These guys deserve all the success they have and so much more
Also first comment, thats new
Yea but their transition could be better... get a headache with every cut ✂️
Wow Joshua, thank you so so much! We appreciate this more than you know. - AK
It's tv worthy
Couldn't have said it better myself, Joshua. 💯
OMG, a round of applause guys for calling out the Hilux for what it is. Toyota have been resting on their laurels with this thing for ever, but if Aussies keep paying a premium for an overpriced and underdone car why would Toyota improve them.
Have you owned an Hilux?
@@winandre Yep, 2 company vehicles and there crap.
@@timfudy3147 what makes them crap?
Two companies vehicle so no you have never owned a Hilux.
Mazda B2000 maybe
@@MussaKZN clown
I love how blunt this presenter and the writing is, its refreshing to see 👍
Cheers Alex. - AK
Ranger Raptor are built for tackling Westfield car parks
My mate for the price of a Ram he purchased a massive American gooseneck caravan then purchased a crew cab Hino then fitted a turntable hitch to haul caravan. The Hino diesel and it's fuel efficiency and reliability is insane. Oh the caravan is so big he actually lives in it with wife as they are retired. They change their views every week going to a new place. They sold their farm and doing this eliminate paying council property tax saving $3000 per year.
A good percentage of utes, especially the tarted up versions, are solely for manchild peacocking purposes. They get polished, coddled and pointless accessorised to within an inch of their lives. If I inflicted the same regime on my euro hatch I'd be laughed out of town, but somehow cheap plastic bonnet barnacles, 80's style stripe kits, and other unforgivable accessory crimes on a ute is cool and normal...
ARB are having a good chuckle
Some blokes have little peckers…
Agree with the comments on the Hilux - drive a current model regularly at work - terrible ergonomics / uncomfortable seats - average ride & poor fuel consumption. Transmissions overheat and go into limp home mode regularly on hot outback days. They only get the high sales figures because mining companies buy them in their thousands as site vehicles due to reliability. Would hate one as a city drive.
Editor of this video is an absolute legend!!🤣
He is! - AK
Got to be amongst one of your best videos todate. Loved it and I total agree with your list
I live in Arabia and I love your videos, don't stop these amazing honest reviews
Jeep must be wiping the sweat off their foreheads and thinking, wow, thank god the gladiator only just came out!!! 😂😂😂
great and extremely informative video. Surprised the RAM 1500 wasn't mentioned. There are so many of them on the road right now - in Melbourne at least.
I would honestly put all the American pickups on the list because being mandated by the government to convert them to RHD is just horrible. It makes them laughably expensive and you get a worse vehicle for it while not being any more practical or safer. These are so big you need to hug the outside of the road and they were not made to crash like vehicles driving on the left crash so moving the steering wheel to the other side is pointless at best. Also these are too big for drive-throughs and car parks so there's literally zero need for the driver's seat to be on the right side. Australia is the only country I know that requires cars be converted. It's just an awful law.
AK don't ever change, mate, best vid yet! Glued to the screen for its content and chuckling away at your 'it's shit!' Comments. Top creative editing had me smiling too. If there was a top 5 under-rated TH-cam channels you'd be in every place. Great vid again. 👍 Merry Christmas to you and the ReDriven team 🎄🎅
Steve, thank so so much mate. Also, thanks for your support and comments during the year mate, love seeing your name pop up. Have a great Chrissy and new year too. - AK
Awesome review with added fun background making fun and enjoy to view
Those green screen effects had me 😂😂😂
thank you for making a video that is not over 45 min long and stiil informative. Thanks
Thanks so much for watching and enjoying. - AK
Hilarious and informative, thanks for the GREAT content!!!
Cheers mate! - AK
Great info and the Seinfeld background, mint
I love how he put a photo of whistlindiesel jumping a hilux
Love this channel
Wow. Two out of the five vehicles on this list are GM vehicles😂🤣. And you're spot on on the Raptor (including the F-150). Almost nobody uses those for what it's meant for.
The graphics absolutely killing me. Top list, enjoyed it.
The Ram like you said know for problems in the US especially electric stuff imagine how that will play considering they a converted to RHD here in Australia.
Love it!!!
Absolutely Fantastic. Overcompensate
for sure.
I had a 2008 H2 Sut, everything is correct- but driving it was an amazing experience. Fun as hell.
Comments about the raptor you could also apply to a few other vehicles…. 79 series LC would be ute I’d put forward and then really any of the Lambos, Ferrari or Porsche getting around. But the option is there if you ever feel the need to send it. 😀👍🏻
100% Andrew, hence why it’s in our Top 5 Overrated 4x4 video.
Yep the Hilux is probably not that much better, but it is. Because they have fantastic resale and they are more reliable than anything else. Just on those 2 points alone makes them great value for the $$$$$ and that’s why they sell them by the boat load.
More reliable? Show me the proof. Evidence? Just more hype that is put out by owners to justify the reaming they got at Toyota. Don't get me wrong, they are an OK product, but no more OK than many other brands. I think most Toyota purchasers are going for the hype and/or can't be bothered or don't have the mechanical smarts to research the market, and just feel comfortable to sit back and believe the hype/bullshit.
My god give your editor a bloody raise!! That was gold!
When you got to #3 I thought, "how are you gonna beat that?". Yep, not disappointed. Now.... to the comments!
Cheers Stephen, he's a legend! - AK
This is quickly becoming one of my favourite channels. Love the editing
Thanks so much mate. - AK
You nailed it exactly where it hurt.Hilux mania scattered.zRanger Raptor, brilliant , but that price, no.The rest just very expensive snob boxes.
OMG that Cal guy is uhhh-maaazing!
I agree with you hilux pricing but I don't no about 5 th the build quality is second to none 300000km plus trouble free
the photo of the old Hilux with cinder blocks in the back is from whistlindiesel Hilux test one!
This was funny! Truck of terror! Brilliant!
I agree with the comments, I bought an Isuzu D max and couldn't be happier
Mercedes should have released the G Wagon Professional Ute at a lower cost to compete
As an American, I can say most people who drive trucks do it as a status symbol rather than actually needing it. It’s the same with SUV/Crossovers. Americans love excess for some reason.
Saw a Silverado toeing a Dingo today. Looked so funny.
Mate you are a legend speaking the truth, so sooo many yupis driving around these days spending so much money on shit house 4x4s like Hiluxs or rangers
Couldn’t agree more on the Toyota Hilux. You also forgot to mention the DPF issues the current engine has had.
Fixed now
@@nemanjacanak8890 😂😂😂 if you believe that.
I own 1 I know what I'm talking about
Also most cars have dpf related issues, it's the worst thing ever put into cars especially for 4x4's
It's the Range Raptors with 20 inch rim and mud terrains on that have me scratching my head lmao
Completely agree with all these entries. The last three - RAM, Silverado and Hummer, typical example of US vehicles that are build with zero care for reliability and quality - no doubt why Holden and Ford Aus had similar issues here as well. The X - class, yeah an overpriced badge engineered thing based on a Navara (more so as Mercedes design and manufacture their own commercial vehicles, really cutting corners here).
As for the Hilux, I did read or hear somewhere the quality has dropped in the past 15 years, whether that's to do with moving production from Japan to Thailand, presumably to save costs. No doubt these are still very capable utes, but expensive for what they are.
Hey guys, seriously great channel and cheat sheets. the "should you buy it" section on the cheat sheets could be easier to read if the font was black instead of white on yellow background. Anyways, keep up the good work!
Great call Ed. We’re working on some big website stuff and it’s coming soon. - AK
Brilliant
🤣🤣🤣🤣..First time seeing this channel. When you said the H2 was sh%t, that got you my subscription. 👍🏽
Hoobloodyray! I drive a Hilux at work. I have to agree that it is over priced considering what it offers. We also have a BT50 with the 3.2 ford ranger motor. I have to say I can't rate the Hilux above the Mazda BT50. We use both vehicles in urban and rural settings. We drive highway kilometres and the only time I'm glad I'm sitting in either vehicle is when we are on dirt. Both are really clunky on the highway. There's got to be a Hilux cult.
My boss has a Silverado and it's awesome
I like the Bond Villain-esque background. Sharks are appropriate as you tear shards off an over rated vehicle.
Can you do an episode
Top 5 over rated covid variants?
The x class v6 actually seems like a really good deal on the used market. The values seem to plummet, meaning you're getting a nicer Navara with a V6 for less hilux money, and I don't think anyone really off-roads these things it's just a Navara Under the Skin so it shouldn't be a problem to keep maintained although the engine could be interesting
Thanks for a honest and Frank review rather than the usual TH-cam wank.
Cheers mate, that’s what we’re here for. - AK
Outstanding review. And what’s better,…..my 2020 Ranger Wildtrak isn’t on the list. 😂😂😂😂😂
💯 on the money bro
Cheers mate - AK
Agree with some, but the hilux in this list doesn’t makes sense. In the end, you get what you pay for when it comes to a Bakkie (Ute). And actually Ute I guess comes for utility. So I want a bakkie that performs well and is reliable. Bells and whistles great, but it’s not really why I am buying it. Plus, i can always buy a lower spec hilux if I don’t want to spend as much… hilux has proven its worth in aus and sa, 2 of the toughest places.
"performs well" and "Hilux" don't go together.
@@user-fs3dg1po2z do you have a Hilux?
I hate how people really love to shit on any popular car just because they like a different car. If you don't want to buy a Hilux, don't buy one, it's that simple, go ahead and get a ranger or Isuzu or a Navara. Just it's annoying when people who don't ever research or have experience try to prove a point against the Hilux, and plus there's more than just the Hilux from Toyota, Land cruisers and prados are other options, and if the budget is not for you, get a 2nd hand vehicle, unless you really want something nice, go for the lower spec vehicles especially the Hilux range. Overall I just hate when I go to comment or videos with too much bias against a car, especially reviews. But I know this video is full of bias as it's for ''overrated vehicles''. Also just to point out, experience will always be better than information, because you can first hand know what's wrong and not wrong, that's why I own a Hilux and why I enjoy it. The same can be said for others.
What about the first series Ranger Raptor. Can’t tow much @ 2.5T & very under powered 2.0L TT.
nice video
Thanks!
I knew this list was going to be spicey when you started with the Hilux.
Well done. Hilux is decent, but so are many othwr utes.
My list:
1. 79 series
2. 79 series
3. 79 series
4. 79 series
5. 79 series
100% correct.
I appreciate that you said there in Australia, for the pple who buy hiluxs here i Africa they are still using them, while all other trucks are nowere to be seen. when you talk of capable cars you show us cars doing it once. A hilux can do it again and again and again and again. we would know because you can see all generations of hiluxes still roming the roads
Oh mate, we’re not critical if that aspect of the HiLux, we actually made a point of complimenting it.
Our experts just feel that it is no longer worthy of the immense fandom as many other vehicles have caught up in-terms of ability and reliability in the scenario that the majority will be used.
It’s a great vehicle, but so are many others now. - AK
BTW, I did look test drive a 4x4 Hilux a few years ago when I was in the market shopping around and I found it to be cheap and the cabin way to small and ugly really.
Please do a whole episode on a Mahindra single cab 4x4
The Hilux (or as my old man and myself call it the Hilaxative) is not a ute that can fit 3 adult men comfortably in the single cab manual form as you run the risk of someone accidentally grabbing the wrong gearstick/handbrake which I know from experience (haven't had the wrong stick grabbed yet but do get my leg hit with the gear stick while sitting there as can't move legs out the road enough to allow for the gear changes to be done without interference)
Also another ute that's overated is the Foton Tundland. This is like the Ram,Hummer and Chevy on this list in its a case of how many Ls/km not kms/L and that's coming from a bloke my dad's talked to who had one for 7 months before swapping it for a Triton.
And each background was appropriate for each ute be it for the comments you might get to the actual vehicles reputation themselves.
Are you guys going to do a follow up to the bond list and do the best cars driven by the bond villans any time soon?
Stay safe guys with the omicron strain thats hanging around and look forward to Friday's video.
So can you enlighten us in which ute/duel cab can fit 3 adults in the front comfortably in this class of vehicle?
@@R6_Tane I've only been in single cab utes so I honestly couldn't say with a dual cab ute sorry.
If you're asking about a single cab the 2 that can fit 3 adults in somewhat comfortably that I've personally been in are the 1980s Rodeo 2000 and the early naughties Ford Courier.
@@R6_Tane None of them in this class can fit 3 adults in the front, they're just too small. I've been 3 up in the front of a 3 seater falcon ute which wasn't terrible, but they don't make those anymore, and other that the only vehicles with enough physical size to fit 3 in the front are the American trucks, but they aren't the same class at all, and most of the ones that end up in Australia don't have bench seats because its generally only base models that get bench seats.
Ram 3500 Cummins 6.7 with the Aisin. is just overkill not overrated.
its just a Semi that looks like a pickup.
The 6 cylinder v8 in the H2 must be special,hihi
Hey Adam, wow, you apartment looks just like Jerry Seinfeld’s….hehehe. I thought yours would have been decorated with a more artistic flair like mine….lol! Merry Christmas, great work again. Cheers Mate, Fred
Fred the apartment is covered in plants and art thanks to my partner! Have an awesome Xmas and New Year mate and thanks for all your support during the year. - AK
@@ReDriven I never doubted it. People like us have a certain flair…..lol. I just thought the back drop of Seinfeld’s apartment was not becoming to you. And I think that it’s just not your partner but you also have great design taste too. Merry Christmas Adam. All the best with the Chanel.
About the only one I disagree with here is the X-Class, not because they're not everything you said, but because no one really rated them positively in the first place.
The big one you left out with the 3500 is you need to step up to at least an LR Truck Licence to drive it.
Haha, Seinfelds appartment , Awesome😆
This was better than therapy while being therapy.
2:24 very sensible background
I thought he was coming at the series 79 as well , that would've been waaaaaaayyyyyy outta place my guy 😂
As a business owner reliability can save your money for long term all of my cars are hilux or Toyota’s . Well hilux made for tradies No issue for 10+years 300000+km for sure. And the resell price can almost get back half or quoter of what you paid .none other Ute can beat that . Think about it .Extra more 10-20k than other Ute for 10+years Thats only $100+extra for every month $1000+ every year . I rather pay that lil extra to avoid breakdown on the road . Repair cost on what ever issues with other Ute and put my car to the workshop for days or week . It’s save you lots time to do better things with business or with family .Compare to that extra $1000+ a year is so much cheaper .
Quality
Sold my hilux back in 2012 and won’t buy a 4x4 ute again… they are ok if you don’t have to travel far but as soon as you need to do a few hundred kms then they are just no good
American here. Can confirm that the Rams are probably the worst full size trucks you can buy. Anything FCA is going to have reliability issues.
I’m surprised that the background for a public toilet wasn’t used for this video lol
Where does the Ram 1500 fit into this list?
It was at the pointy end when we compiled everyones votes and thoughts sorry David. - AK
If the Merc is overrated does that make the Nav underrated? Can’t wait for my Warrior to arrive 🤗
Finally someones got the balls to speak the truth.
I wouldn’t even spend $20 dollars for a plain white tee. For that much it better be a 3-5 pack!! But I do have a passion for Cadillacs. I currently own 4 and my newest is a 14 ats 2.0t. The other 3 are v8’s! Oh I didn’t buy any of them new! All couple years old so I didn’t take the hit!
I fully agree with your description of the Silverado,Ram & Hummer.All 3 have the worst reliability.I'm over here in America.The Ford F-150 and up are the most sold and the Silverado & Ram are the very reason for it.
The Silverado is also plagued by rear differential issues (too much play and made in Mexico) and the Ram has serious electronic problems.
I'm still laughing and crying on those green screen back drops
Thank you for admiring my commitment...
Great video
The Hilux has always confused, it's overrated, but on the other hand it's the best ute off-road and probably the second most reliable, and great at towing.
In NZ hiluxs are ~7k cheaper then rangers
I think it's overrated cause it was the best for so long that many people buy into the myth, into the hype while ignoring just how much the competition has improved. So people buy em and pay the Toyota Tax expecting it to be 10 steps ahead of the pack, but find out it's just part of the pack in 2021
@@lethalee The rest of pack must have been dismal if the hilux could ever have been considered ahead of it.
@moth3rfck3r. My first ute was a 85 Hilux compared to the 85 Holden rodeos the company I worked for had , it was light years ahead for ergonomics & comfort neither had power steering the Holdens were twice as heavy in the steering . My next purchase was a 99 hilux gutless but it did over 500,000km without putting a spanner on it just regular servicing , no dual mass flywheels or dpf’s to fail .
I’ll agree once the 5th generation Hilux came out it was all over hence I’m no longer a Hilux owner .
Maybe someone can clarify but the toyota utes in South Afr8ca almost appreciate in price due to demand. The 2019 Legends are now almost 10-15% more expensive second hand than when they were launched. Same in oz? Overrated by default..but the status that goes with it is non negotiable.
Same here in Aus. Morons pay extra to have a T on the grille.
@@audoinxr6372 problem in SA they are a high jacking risk and the Hilux and Ranger you never very sure if your car is where you left it last parked. Nothing wrong with the product though, the people who end up in dams etc with them are the problem.
"Lack of size somewhere else". HAHAHAHAHA
so what price do you put on reliability. how frustrating it is when you break down when running late... just saying is that over rated ?
If you want a rig with an outrageous tow and hauling capacity that's actually reliable get a pre 2007 F250. You pay under $80K for them and you get that 7.3 powerstroke diesel
Edit: pre 2004 is the 7.3
But the 7.3 TD was from 99 to 2003(on the super dutys), after that it was the horrific 6.0 , horrible engine
@@YENKOGT didn't know that. OK mend my statement to pre 2004
@@YENKOGT though today's 6.7 and 7.3 Godzilla are also great motors. If you don't mind spending big money then do that too
I must comment that I was not surprised with the comments about the selected vehicles. The people who buy American vehicles here obviously never look at the reliability reports in the good ol USA.
The people who buy American vehicles are often looking for towing capacity and comfort that you can't get from anything considered more reliable here. Let me know when Toyota starts selling something with a ~300kw diesel and 4.5t towing capacity.
@@user-fs3dg1po2z Agree with your comment however the three that reside near me don't have towbars so maybe they require the bed space. I read heaps of car reports Australian and American so I am only commenting on what I have read in their version of consumer reports and also some of the reviewers. Please don't take it to heart. If you need one get one if you are like me and don't need one then just read about them and add a comment to the story.
That Hummer, can you actually afford to run them is Australia?
We can't...erm, I mean I couldn't afford the fuel for one here in the UK with fuel costing roughly
£1.50 per litre 😳 yes really!
At this rate I'd find it difficult (although it would be a lot of fun) to run a 600cc
Styre Puch Haflinger!
Rangers in general are overpriced and over rated. What a great honest review.
Raptors are for the look at me I am sexy crowed, let's face it. I personally would have brought a raptor if it didn't have a silly little 2.2 ltr motor that has very little tunability left in it and a manual transmition so instead I brought a 3.2ltr 5 cylinder xlt put a tune in it and now I have a Ute that not only tows more but with a little suspension upgrade is way more capable yet still cost less than a raptor. The Raptor let everyone down with its engine transmition combo and the low towing capacity because if you off road you usually camp and carry equipment.... The raptor is great off road yes but it's a day trip Ute only not a let's go bush for a couple of days type Ute and in Australia's vastness is kind of silly for the market basically FORD kind of dropped the ball with the raptor what it needed was a 3ltrish V6 turbo diesel with a better pay load and that would be worth the price tag to tackle the off road trips. It's just not really that practical for anyone who towes a van/camper or a tradie who carries anything in the tray which is what the majority of Ute owners are.
For the majority of drivers who buy these you couldn’t be more accurate, those who will venture to the dirt road at the furthest of their travels. With the very small minority that push their 4x4s to the max you couldn’t be more inaccurate. Loved the content and the facts 🤙🏻
Thanks so much mate. - AK
Haha.. finally! I’ve been saying this for years. The Hilux is average. I mean it can do what all the other d/cab 4x4’s can do, you just pay about 10 - 15k extra for, the ugliest Ute, worst fuel consumption and a list of issues. Even with the 79 series, Toyota firmly has the wool pulled over a lot of people’s eyes.
I work in the automotive industry and still people say, oh, buy a Hilux. I’m always question it, why?! And they go.. umm... because they’re the best. I say, in what way? They’re like, umm.. because that’s what everyone says. Hahaha.. gotta give it to the Toyota marketing team though.. been resting on its laurels for decades.
So you work for Ford…..😂
Hilux - Very regular service intervals? 12 months or 15k is normal I thought
Every real off-road enthusiast I know has a old 60, 80,100 series LC or old patrol. Let’s face who in their right mind in gonna take there 70kplus 4x4 really off-road like not on fire trails.
So true.
Patrols are where its at for the money...get the petty gq 3lt rb 30 motor n slap a rb25 head on it they should of come out turbod.... plenty of power n turbo double overhead cam efi makes it way better on fuel
Dude, grow a pair and stop apologising for having an opinion ! More of these please.