People complaining about this camera's quality, battery, etc., are comical. You are buying an already cheap budget camera that you plan to sideload non-native software on, and you want reliability. Please, never enter the racing world.
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊 th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
For anyone that can not record continuously for some reason with the Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 mb/s card. Try changing the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from the SD Overlock submenu by pressing the play button. After changing it to SDR 50, restart the camera to let it apply the new setting. Then you should be good to go for continuous recording! I hope this helped!
About the body, my eos m dropped two times on the ground, one time on concrete one time on wooden floor from about 1.20 meter hight each time and I'm proud to state that my camera still workes like a charm.
I bought the Canon M when when it first came out, and TH-cam camera reviewers were bouncing on the camera comparing it to a DSLR. I paid $600 USD for it through B&H, it included the 18-55mm, and 22mm pancake kit lenses, 2 batteries, a charger, and 64gb Extreme flash card. It's been one of the best cameras I have ever owned. I've adapted 1970/80 Canon FD lenses to it, and a Hasselblad 80mm planar that makes mindblowing razor sharp shots and wicked bokeh at the same time. With Magic Lantern you can take pictures of lightning at night, (yet the reviewers claimed that the Stock M is slowAF). I'm thinking I've had my camera for at least 10 years, and each day I use it, I find something new or cool to do with it. It was one of the best camera purchases I have ever made. Absolutely no regrets.
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊 th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
@@TheTillmanSneakerReview The 650d and the 700d are internally similar to the eos m, the 750d has a newer digic 6 processor that is not compatible with magic lantern at the moment.
@@AndrewsVideoTips143 That makes sense because I was never able to upgrade my old 750D. I wish I still had it because the $90 Canon 50mm lens, it shot beautiful videos, with barely any need for color grading, even in low light.
I've had the Canon EOS M for just over 2 weeks now. With Magic Lantern and Crop Mood, I've learned so much with such a tight budget. I am a complete beginner, other than recording video off my cell phone. The low cost of entry should be the highlight of what Magic Lantern is doing to the EOS lineup. As a beginner, I would never catch myself investing $2k+ on a body, yet alone bring it to public areas to shoot. Maybe down the road when I understand lenses and how to effectively shoot scenes as intended, I will upgrade my gear. Right now, as a hobbyist, this experience has been humbling, but also fun. I bring my EOS M everywhere and I've finally picked up my first prime lens. I am failing so much and have so many unusable clips, but I learn from those mistakes. The cropping is intense on many aspect ratios, but I'm enjoying the options and tweaking. I can understand the frustration of those who thought the camera would work with no hiccup, but eventually you find that aspect ratio & crop that you enjoy filming. My endgame is to film my travels next year and I want to make it appealing to the eye. One of your videos help convince me to pre-order the M-lite last month and I hope to mod an EOS M soon to start working on a rig. Thanks for the inspiration.
I’m big fan of this little monster camera. It’s been my lifelong dream to have cinema camera that can produce raw high dynamic range video to work with. But i’m not profesional videographer or a rich person. But with Magic Lantern on EOS M it was like dream come true to me. I’ve just learned to convert the raw files into Arri c log profile that I can grade in Da Vinci. And I can’t hide the excitement for the result, its sooo beautiful. I think the long workflow is what gives Eos M Raw that ‘craftmanship’ feels. Its definitely not easy, but if you’re aware that you forging a ‘cheap’ thing into something beautiful, that’s where the statifaction comes from.
FINAL EDIT: THE SD CARD WAS THE MAIN LIMITING FACTOR! MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A FAST CARD! hey, i recently got this camera. people should be aware: the image stabilization on the kit lens causes the camera to bug out when taking video. ML refuses to record when it's attached, but the default firmware works fine. apparently, you can get around this by using a lens adapter, but i haven't tried yet. edit: switching from the build zeek links to a build straight from ML seems to have fixed the issue.
That's strange. Never had that bug before Double check your firmware version. You should be running 2.0.2 I think (2.0.3 is the newest one but stay on .2)
@@desubeats afaik i've been using full manual controls, is there anything specifically i should check for? i've seen forum posts from people having the same problem. i haven't found a way to resolve it yet. edit: switching from the build zeek links to a build straight from ML seems to have fixed the issue
@@8lec_R i'm running 2.02. maybe there are slight hardware revisions in the lens or body that lead to people having inconsistent results? like you said, it seems to work fine for some people
Interesting that people are still using this camera so many years after it was released. Took a look in my closet and yes I still have it with a few other compact larger sensor cameras. Now I have to charge the battery and investigate this magic lantern.
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊 th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
FOR THE LAST TIME. it does not record 5k its just called that beacuse it skips some pixels to make it anamorphic and use the full size of the sensor but it is not 5k. if you look at the resoultion youll know this.
Yep you are right, the recorded resolution is 1736x2178. But it's recommend to desqueeze it on timeline with a resolution of 5208x2178. Also you can't record it at 14 bits indefinitely at 5k. Afaik. Cuz as soon as you add movement the bitrate exceeds the write speed of the internal card reader and the recording will most probably stop. Unless the sandisk card is some kind of magic
@@8lec_R my point is its upscaling which means that thoese extra pixels are not real so when people say it records 5k they start to get the wrong idea. for the general guys that want something to work id recomend staying away form this camera.
@@8lec_R it will for sure. the problem is the amount of work that has to go into it to get things good. some people will just pick it up not knowing the workflow and then say its not good. the other issue is that you cant always see on the spot that the video is gonna be bad untill they load it up on their computer. maybe your on holiday or you go to an event there are no retakes then you relise that you werent in focus or even if everything is dialed in sometimes you could get pink frames. the battery is while running ML is really short, yes you could use a dummy battery but people are not aware of this before they buy. still gives great detailed colour videos on raw but too much work needs to go in.
Regarding overheating: Don't expect it to record continuously in direct sunlight. Also once it hits 50°c you can expect the recording to stop pretty much anytime
I took an EOS-M to Maui (Hawaii) as a travel camera. It has the newest Canon firmware and it works just fine. I don't have Magic Lantern. Viltrox made EF to EF-M adapter. I also have a M6II.
You should definitely get Magic Lantern if you want movie level video! However, using Magic Lantern requires a lot of video coloring and other skills along the line. So if you don't want to go through all that troubles, then just don't get Magic Lantern. Glad this can help you!
I’m sorry, I think the TH-camrs who have success with this camera & ML like you, Deek, Cole, etc are blessed with survivorship bias. I bought this camera in January, bought the exact same sd card you have in this video, got a version of ML from January - and I’m not having much success with it. Out of all the recording modes, only 1080p & 5k frtp work but even those modes are far from consistent. Only about 20% of my clips come out without skipped frames. The 1080 mode looks terrible, much worse than non-ML 8bit recording. The 5k mode looks great but I get a totally random record length, anywhere between 2 to 15 seconds. It always crashes if I attempt anything longer than that. I noticed you did your 5k recording test by leaving the camera recording a static scene. That won’t tax the sensor, cpu or ML code. You need to do a real-world test, outside in bright sun, tracking something that’s going in and out of shadow, to get highly variable bit-rate demands. Overall I’m really unhappy with this camera and I speculate that the majority of people that try ML on EOS-M quietly give up in frustration and either sell the camera on or use it without ML as a decent pocket sized travel or street camera. I’d be curious if you bought another EOS-M body whether you’d have the same results. Again I’m only speculating but I think because these cameras were a budget offering, the build quality was all over the place.
I think the majority of cameras work well. I've talked to a lot of people on servers and online and I've never seen this issue before. Maybe sell your unit and buy another. My personal Eos M has gone through hell and is still chugging. Also note, I don't recommend shooting 14bit in any mode except the 1080p one
@@Rsp42 if you have the money sure. If all you can afford is cheap ass camera, ML is leagues better as professional tool. You just have to learn to use it.
@@8lec_R Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊 th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
Do you know if there is something like a speed booster but that keeps the same mount? I've got a load of lenses for mine but with the 2x plus crop something like a speed booster would be amazing
yes, people are using the aforementioned viltrox speedbooster. if you wanna have the best quality, you should look into metabones. their speedboosters are pricey but the deliver very good results.
This camera needs patience and dedication. Newer builds are much better. the preview has become faster and soon we will have full real time preview in all modes even 5k. i can record 5.2k frtp with 12 bits no problem continuous with overclocking. This year will be great for this camera. Better hold onto it.
Where do you get those latest builds? This guy in the video does not give link to the site and in the official ML site has a build from 2018 as a latest one.
If you want an EOS M with a better built quality, better heat management and a slightly faster sensor then get the EOS 700D aka Rebel T5i. It's basically an EOS M with a proper DSLR body and functions the exact same way. Also it has much better heat management. It can heat up to 70c without problems.
Real cinema cameras have special buttons for functions and better connectivity, timecode ect and you can record all day long with them. I mean sure it gets the look and a fan but not much else.
Not the price is still rising, does it make sense to look at the m50 or higher instead? For $150-$200 more, are the advantages worth it? .. flip screen for example?
With the recent M-Lite kit, it makes this camera an amazing option. All the issues people complain about are negated. Overheating? It has a fan Battery Life? You can mount an external one Micro HDMI? Now it has a full sized hdmi port Viewfinder? You have an angled one. If you have the time to make a genuine effort, you can make this camera the best under $1,000. Most of the people complaining are those without much experience in this hobby, so it's clear why they asked such dumb questions
I am currently using a M3 and want to get one just to run Magic Lantern. There are a lot more you can do with cameras that ML supports, not just videos and photography.
This camera was my gateway 8 years ago. It was the cheap camera back then. Time has gone on and it's feature set is going to be very minimal, old, and challenging to maximize. I believe I bricked my stills taking ability due to a risky Magic Lantern install. It was a very fun camera to learn on. I want to get it out again and toy around with it.
True, that’s why I mostly recommend this camera for beginner filmmakers where you can control all of the variables, rather than run and gun filming, etc.
You can pick up also it's other DIGIC V sibling EOS 650D/T4i. Regarding of RAW recording time limit, new builds contain new RAW lossless codec, this is quite necessary, as problem is not with SD card speed, but with old USB 2.0 interface, which have limits around of 40MB/s (it looks like, that SD card controller is limited by USB speed).
Oh I wish I could understand what you're saying. Are you talking about the camera He's talking about? Or the DIGIC V I am so new to this.. everyone talks about this camera, but I think there's been changes in things that have happened to it in the past few years some people are stating that the new I don't know is it the program. Of this is how illiterate I am in tech talk of camera. I'm so sorry please forgive me. Greenhorn. Many are saying the last before that 2.0.2 I think there's no problem running the camera. But then others are saying you need an adaptive part for the lens I'm like what? Can we just buy a camera and it work? I had no idea how different cameras are today. Like standing in a field of corn and not knowing what to do with it. I think I need camera school. Haha 😆 Oh well try I must..
@@MzClementine Well DIGIC V is a processor which is used in that generation of Canon cameras. For example Canon EOS M and Canon EOS 650d/ T4i are using same processor DIGIC V, therefore they have same functionalities in Magic Lantern, plus 650d/ T4i have standard Canon EF mount for lenses, so you can use on it even 30years old Canon Lenses.
I have an original EOS-M. I feel the build quality is exelent. I haven't used for video yet, just for stills, but just bougth a microphone and a couple of LCD panels. :) Ok, it's not built like my 5D or 6D...but then again. I paid 150 USD with a bag and an extra batery. :)
I am new to learning about the Canon EOS M model Camera, and you’re right. This camera is apparently becoming more more difficult to locate. Can you run Magic Lantern on any of the other Canon M series of cameras?
They’re still cheap. Mine was £150 with bag, flash, kit lens (which I’ll sell so it’ll be about £100). I got it for photography as my s1 is too massive but the raw video is a lil bonus. I think rigging this out with a vmount etc totally defeats the purpose. And the rolling shutter and low light is horrendous. Throw on a lil speed booster and a compact prime and you’re golden IMO. A nice backup portable camera. Look elsewhere If you want a dedicated video camera, but you can get lovely results if you don’t mind the limitations.
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊 th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
Even compacts have inflated massively in value the last year or two. Before that, I picked up a Canon S95, the last powershot true compact/small body with the S90's CCD sensor and S100's hardware otherwise, in mint condition complete for 85 USD all in. That'll be hard to find now even close for a used model, much less mint/open box. I had a "Good" quality Fuji XQ1 I picked up for 60 bucks, cleaned up/repaired, set on my shelf, and sat on for a year or two, using it often enough to keep corrosion from setting on the dial. I sold it for 300 not too long ago, anything with Fuji or "xtrans" sells for way more than it's worth. If you want these tiny bodies for a photo camera, you can still get the later version for cheap, but they moved away from the DSLR based firmware the M here has. That means nothing for an end-user, but the M having basically a DSLR's firmware (hardware calls and all) is what allowed ML to be ported over time. There are some attempts for other M cameras, but it'll be ages, if at all, for a solid version to release for them.
thank you very much ... i use sd card 64 GB with my eos m and i download file of magiclatern to my card and i install the latest firmware but the camera cant read the magiclatern .... please heelp ...thank you
Make sure you get a good card. I recommend the Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 mb/s card. Be sure to change the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from the SD Overlock submenu by pressing the play button. After changing it to SDR 50, restart the camera to let it apply the new setting. Otherwise, you can not get continuos shooting. I hope this help!
I’m fortunate (??) enough to be able afford a much more expensive raw video acquisition camera but I’m cheered that - for the cost of maybe a weekend away - one can buy a Canon M and - with a bit of close attention to instructions - get into raw video shooting. I may even be tempted to get one for situations where you want the lightest and smallest camera - when the cost of something is that low, it seems churlish to then dwell on its limitations or nitpick !
If want EF/EF-S rather than EF-M mount, and a flip screen... you can get the same Magic Lantern Crop Mood on the 650d/700d, in my experience at the moment cheaper than the EOS-M
I'm interested in buying this camera, so i found a few and some of the sellers say that their camera is from 2013 and not 2012 so it has the Chinese chip and not the japanese chip so it over heats and doesn't work well is this true or are they just not using it properly?
Hi everyone, I'm having an issue with my EOS M camera. When I adjust the ISO, the brightness of the image on the camera screen doesn't change. Normally, when the ISO is changed, the brightness should change accordingly, but this doesn't happen on my camera. As a result, the photos I take are often over or under exposed. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
GUYS IM A BEGINNER THAT JUST BOUGHT THIS CAMERA FROM EBAY, BUT IT DIDNT COME WITH LENSES, ARE THERE ANY THAT I CAN BUY THATS BUDGET FRIENDLY? TY (ANYTHING ELSE LIKE INFO ABOUT THIS CAMERA ID LIKE TOO!!)
Hi, I don't think card reader really matters that much for M1 MacBook Air. So I think any card reader from Amazon would work fine for you! Hope this help
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊 th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
SD cards seem to be a major issue. I have the "exact" same SD card and it refuses to overclock (regardless of the access mode) and I can hardly do a thing with it. Benchmarks totally fine in play mode and super fast.
I've used Danni's build before Crop mode and I find it less stable. Missing audio, stop recording for no reason, and similar. But looking forward for improvements.
Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 mb/s card is the best card to get for the Canon EOS M with Magic Lantern. Be sure to change the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from the SD Overlock submenu by pressing the play button. After changing it to SDR 50, restart the camera to let it apply the new setting. Otherwise, you can not get continuos shooting.
If you're shooting video using a tripod, stabilization adds nothing. It can even make things worse. So no IBIS is not a problem for video using a tripod. Many nice lenses for the Canon M series have no IS, which is a real problem for mobile videos (e.g. Walking and talking). So if you need that, then buy a gimbal.
@@cjsaysthings Oh, right. 10bit vs 14bit saves you nearly 1/3 of the overall file size, for example. I often see data rates of 50MB/s for 14bit raw recording, which is around 180GB/h. 2/3 of that would be kind of in the ballpart of 128GB/h. 5K recorded in ML is actually cropped horizontally, so it's not actually 5K. I guess that's what affects the file size the most. "Real" 5K would result in huuuge file sizes.
Maybe because your 5k mode was wrong. Check your resolution. If you set 5.2k mode, you can only get like 3 sec video recording time. Find it on youtube
That camera is Not Cheap made. Magnesium alloy body. You are so full of crap! Not cheap either when introduced. Try about $1000 when released in late 2012. They made more than a couple of M cameras. Not a couple. Need to get your facts straight. BTW, I've had one since 2013.
It always surprises me that a camera 12 years manufacturer is expecting 2024 technologies! How difficult is it read the online manual or release information about this camera! Canon EOS-M was the first mirror less APSC camera! If your TH-cam viewers are looking for ‘All Singing and Dancing’ APS-C camera with video facilities ….. buy the Sony A6700! An awesome camera! Highly recommended at £1450 in UK!
Anyway it’s nearly impossible for normal uses. Okay you have some continuous recording in 3-5k, but in crop like 6x times, which requires super wide angle lenses like 6mm, and 1080 looks absolutely terrible with noise and moire all over. Tried it, but found it just cumbersome and non practical, I’d suggest people to get original black magic pocket instead.
People complaining about this camera's quality, battery, etc., are comical. You are buying an already cheap budget camera that you plan to sideload non-native software on, and you want reliability. Please, never enter the racing world.
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊
th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
Lmao literally stated it perfectly as a fellow Honda boy you get it
I just got my hand on a 80€ eos m10 kit, what can I achieve with a "non-native" firmware update? I am intrigued
@@TheOctodread you need the original eos m, not the m10. So nothing afaik
@@HeyElKappa thank you for the answer!
For anyone that can not record continuously for some reason with the Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 mb/s card. Try changing the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from the SD Overlock submenu by pressing the play button. After changing it to SDR 50, restart the camera to let it apply the new setting. Then you should be good to go for continuous recording! I hope this helped!
About the body, my eos m dropped two times on the ground, one time on concrete one time on wooden floor from about 1.20 meter hight each time and I'm proud to state that my camera still workes like a charm.
Wow that’s good to hear!
I bought the Canon M when when it first came out, and TH-cam camera reviewers were bouncing on the camera comparing it to a DSLR. I paid $600 USD for it through B&H, it included the 18-55mm, and 22mm pancake kit lenses, 2 batteries, a charger, and 64gb Extreme flash card. It's been one of the best cameras I have ever owned. I've adapted 1970/80 Canon FD lenses to it, and a Hasselblad 80mm planar that makes mindblowing razor sharp shots and wicked bokeh at the same time. With Magic Lantern you can take pictures of lightning at night, (yet the reviewers claimed that the Stock M is slowAF). I'm thinking I've had my camera for at least 10 years, and each day I use it, I find something new or cool to do with it. It was one of the best camera purchases I have ever made. Absolutely no regrets.
I personally use it and it's probably one of the most underrated cameras for indies project
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊
th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
Is it better than the EOS 750D?
@@TheTillmanSneakerReview The 650d and the 700d are internally similar to the eos m, the 750d has a newer digic 6 processor that is not compatible with magic lantern at the moment.
@@AndrewsVideoTips143 That makes sense because I was never able to upgrade my old 750D. I wish I still had it because the $90 Canon 50mm lens, it shot beautiful videos, with barely any need for color grading, even in low light.
Ad of this camera showing that it can use all other canon lenses captures my attention 10 years ago, proud owner of EOS M since 2015.
I've had the Canon EOS M for just over 2 weeks now. With Magic Lantern and Crop Mood, I've learned so much with such a tight budget. I am a complete beginner, other than recording video off my cell phone. The low cost of entry should be the highlight of what Magic Lantern is doing to the EOS lineup.
As a beginner, I would never catch myself investing $2k+ on a body, yet alone bring it to public areas to shoot. Maybe down the road when I understand lenses and how to effectively shoot scenes as intended, I will upgrade my gear. Right now, as a hobbyist, this experience has been humbling, but also fun. I bring my EOS M everywhere and I've finally picked up my first prime lens.
I am failing so much and have so many unusable clips, but I learn from those mistakes. The cropping is intense on many aspect ratios, but I'm enjoying the options and tweaking. I can understand the frustration of those who thought the camera would work with no hiccup, but eventually you find that aspect ratio & crop that you enjoy filming.
My endgame is to film my travels next year and I want to make it appealing to the eye. One of your videos help convince me to pre-order the M-lite last month and I hope to mod an EOS M soon to start working on a rig. Thanks for the inspiration.
I’m big fan of this little monster camera. It’s been my lifelong dream to have cinema camera that can produce raw high dynamic range video to work with. But i’m not profesional videographer or a rich person. But with Magic Lantern on EOS M it was like dream come true to me. I’ve just learned to convert the raw files into Arri c log profile that I can grade in Da Vinci. And I can’t hide the excitement for the result, its sooo beautiful.
I think the long workflow is what gives Eos M Raw that ‘craftmanship’ feels. Its definitely not easy, but if you’re aware that you forging a ‘cheap’ thing into something beautiful, that’s where the statifaction comes from.
FINAL EDIT: THE SD CARD WAS THE MAIN LIMITING FACTOR! MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A FAST CARD!
hey, i recently got this camera. people should be aware: the image stabilization on the kit lens causes the camera to bug out when taking video. ML refuses to record when it's attached, but the default firmware works fine. apparently, you can get around this by using a lens adapter, but i haven't tried yet. edit: switching from the build zeek links to a build straight from ML seems to have fixed the issue.
That's strange. Never had that bug before
Double check your firmware version. You should be running 2.0.2 I think (2.0.3 is the newest one but stay on .2)
Yeah I have the kit lens and ML will record albeit inconsistently (I’ve left a longer comment regarding my poor results with ML & EOS-M)
u sure you dont have any auto features enabled?
@@desubeats afaik i've been using full manual controls, is there anything specifically i should check for? i've seen forum posts from people having the same problem. i haven't found a way to resolve it yet. edit: switching from the build zeek links to a build straight from ML seems to have fixed the issue
@@8lec_R i'm running 2.02. maybe there are slight hardware revisions in the lens or body that lead to people having inconsistent results? like you said, it seems to work fine for some people
Interesting that people are still using this camera so many years after it was released. Took a look in my closet and yes I still have it with a few other compact larger sensor cameras. Now I have to charge the battery and investigate this magic lantern.
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊
th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
You need Magic Lantern Crop Mood. It's not the original Magic Lantern from back in the day.
FOR THE LAST TIME. it does not record 5k its just called that beacuse it skips some pixels to make it anamorphic and use the full size of the sensor but it is not 5k. if you look at the resoultion youll know this.
Yep you are right, the recorded resolution is 1736x2178. But it's recommend to desqueeze it on timeline with a resolution of 5208x2178.
Also you can't record it at 14 bits indefinitely at 5k. Afaik. Cuz as soon as you add movement the bitrate exceeds the write speed of the internal card reader and the recording will most probably stop. Unless the sandisk card is some kind of magic
@@8lec_R no I have the same card as in the video and yep you’re correct, I generally can’t get much beyond 8-or-so seconds in 5k 14bit mode
@@8lec_R my point is its upscaling which means that thoese extra pixels are not real so when people say it records 5k they start to get the wrong idea.
for the general guys that want something to work id recomend staying away form this camera.
@@navidmehdi6 it's a great camera to learn on imo. It will force you to learn exposure, grading, colour spaces, clipping points etc
@@8lec_R it will for sure. the problem is the amount of work that has to go into it to get things good. some people will just pick it up not knowing the workflow and then say its not good. the other issue is that you cant always see on the spot that the video is gonna be bad untill they load it up on their computer. maybe your on holiday or you go to an event there are no retakes then you relise that you werent in focus or even if everything is dialed in sometimes you could get pink frames. the battery is while running ML is really short, yes you could use a dummy battery but people are not aware of this before they buy. still gives great detailed colour videos on raw but too much work needs to go in.
Regarding overheating: Don't expect it to record continuously in direct sunlight.
Also once it hits 50°c you can expect the recording to stop pretty much anytime
@@mattstone8878 internal camera temperature. But yea I frequently shoot in 30°+ weather. Very easy for thr camera to hit 50°c internally
@@mattstone8878 ain't got no money or time to set up lol
@@mattstone8878what's a cold shoe?
@@mattstone8878 I'm in if you make it multicolor and add a propeller.
@@MzClementine a hot shoe mount with no electrical connections
I got mine a couple years back for $180 CAD. Ordered the M-Lite body to give it new life!
I ordered an M Lite as well! Super excited to see how it is!
Simply one amazing camera! ML makes this unbeatable.
I took an EOS-M to Maui (Hawaii) as a travel camera. It has the newest Canon firmware and it works just fine. I don't have Magic Lantern. Viltrox made EF to EF-M adapter. I also have a M6II.
You should definitely get Magic Lantern if you want movie level video! However, using Magic Lantern requires a lot of video coloring and other skills along the line. So if you don't want to go through all that troubles, then just don't get Magic Lantern. Glad this can help you!
@@yingtianfu I tried magic lantern. It is not good for the camera. I made a picture style that makes the video recordings look better.
Genius title. I came to hate, but happily stayed after the vibes
I’m sorry, I think the TH-camrs who have success with this camera & ML like you, Deek, Cole, etc are blessed with survivorship bias. I bought this camera in January, bought the exact same sd card you have in this video, got a version of ML from January - and I’m not having much success with it.
Out of all the recording modes, only 1080p & 5k frtp work but even those modes are far from consistent.
Only about 20% of my clips come out without skipped frames. The 1080 mode looks terrible, much worse than non-ML 8bit recording. The 5k mode looks great but I get a totally random record length, anywhere between 2 to 15 seconds. It always crashes if I attempt anything longer than that.
I noticed you did your 5k recording test by leaving the camera recording a static scene. That won’t tax the sensor, cpu or ML code. You need to do a real-world test, outside in bright sun, tracking something that’s going in and out of shadow, to get highly variable bit-rate demands.
Overall I’m really unhappy with this camera and I speculate that the majority of people that try ML on EOS-M quietly give up in frustration and either sell the camera on or use it without ML as a decent pocket sized travel or street camera.
I’d be curious if you bought another EOS-M body whether you’d have the same results.
Again I’m only speculating but I think because these cameras were a budget offering, the build quality was all over the place.
I think the majority of cameras work well. I've talked to a lot of people on servers and online and I've never seen this issue before.
Maybe sell your unit and buy another.
My personal Eos M has gone through hell and is still chugging.
Also note, I don't recommend shooting 14bit in any mode except the 1080p one
try to copy what Zeek does? his eos-m settings always work for me, and have pretty long record times
I agree, in a professional setting, it’s not a reliable tool. Mostly for hobbyist filmmakers
@@Rsp42 if you have the money sure. If all you can afford is cheap ass camera, ML is leagues better as professional tool. You just have to learn to use it.
@@8lec_R Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊
th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
This or 5d m3 for magic lantern ? Which one should I buy
I just bought one that's like-new for $80 this week. They usually sell for around $120 here in TW.
I use a eos m to EF adapter and you can swap the mount on the body I did it tho it was a bit hacky
Do you know if there is something like a speed booster but that keeps the same mount? I've got a load of lenses for mine but with the 2x plus crop something like a speed booster would be amazing
mount to the same mount is impossible, phisics law :') i think you just need an 8mm or sum
There is a Viltrox EF to EF-M speedbooster for it!
yes, people are using the aforementioned viltrox speedbooster. if you wanna have the best quality, you should look into metabones. their speedboosters are pricey but the deliver very good results.
This camera needs patience and dedication. Newer builds are much better. the preview has become faster and soon we will have full real time preview in all modes even 5k. i can record 5.2k frtp with 12 bits no problem continuous with overclocking. This year will be great for this camera. Better hold onto it.
Where do you get those latest builds? This guy in the video does not give link to the site and in the official ML site has a build from 2018 as a latest one.
Dummy battery and a usb power bank with atleast 20w pd works too
can you use a 256gb sd card with it, or is 128gb the max?
You can definitely use SD cards with more storage on them, as Zeek has demonstrated. 👍🏾👍🏾
@FoxTailWhipz you should do a video trying out those cheap sirui anamorphic lenses
im sold on them. getting the 35mm and the 70mm. heard the 50 is discolored.
If you want an EOS M with a better built quality, better heat management and a slightly faster sensor then get the EOS 700D aka Rebel T5i.
It's basically an EOS M with a proper DSLR body and functions the exact same way. Also it has much better heat management. It can heat up to 70c without problems.
Check out the modkit from 3d focus for this camera. That turns this thing physically into a real cinema camera. Really impressed me
Real cinema cameras have special buttons for functions and better connectivity, timecode ect and you can record all day long with them. I mean sure it gets the look and a fan but not much else.
Not the price is still rising, does it make sense to look at the m50 or higher instead? For $150-$200 more, are the advantages worth it? .. flip screen for example?
With the recent M-Lite kit, it makes this camera an amazing option. All the issues people complain about are negated.
Overheating? It has a fan
Battery Life? You can mount an external one
Micro HDMI? Now it has a full sized hdmi port
Viewfinder? You have an angled one.
If you have the time to make a genuine effort, you can make this camera the best under $1,000. Most of the people complaining are those without much experience in this hobby, so it's clear why they asked such dumb questions
I am very interested in hearing this type of video but about crop mood. Thank you for your insights!
The camera is definitely a beast. Can take some getting use to but In my opinion definitely worth it
I am currently using a M3 and want to get one just to run Magic Lantern. There are a lot more you can do with cameras that ML supports, not just videos and photography.
Not just videos and photography? Paperweight?
This camera was my gateway 8 years ago. It was the cheap camera back then. Time has gone on and it's feature set is going to be very minimal, old, and challenging to maximize. I believe I bricked my stills taking ability due to a risky Magic Lantern install. It was a very fun camera to learn on. I want to get it out again and toy around with it.
One answer: this people know that in movies any scene take 30 minutes? I work in movies even Hollywood and the scene with are only for a few minutes
True, that’s why I mostly recommend this camera for beginner filmmakers where you can control all of the variables, rather than run and gun filming, etc.
@@FoxTailWhipz I remember the panavison guy that fly every week with 5 cartridge or more with the film and no the full movie that for 6 months or more
Can't understand what you are saying
@@ezquimal given how broken your English is, I have my doubts you worked on anything Hollywood..
I saw your dollar at Mcguire's. Sub earned.
Haha thank you so much! I’m glad someone saw it!
You can pick up also it's other DIGIC V sibling EOS 650D/T4i. Regarding of RAW recording time limit, new builds contain new RAW lossless codec, this is quite necessary, as problem is not with SD card speed, but with old USB 2.0 interface, which have limits around of 40MB/s (it looks like, that SD card controller is limited by USB speed).
Oh I wish I could understand what you're saying. Are you talking about the camera He's talking about? Or the DIGIC V I am so new to this.. everyone talks about this camera, but I think there's been changes in things that have happened to it in the past few years some people are stating that the new I don't know is it the program. Of this is how illiterate I am in tech talk of camera. I'm so sorry please forgive me. Greenhorn. Many are saying the last before that 2.0.2 I think there's no problem running the camera. But then others are saying you need an adaptive part for the lens I'm like what? Can we just buy a camera and it work? I had no idea how different cameras are today. Like standing in a field of corn and not knowing what to do with it. I think I need camera school. Haha 😆 Oh well try I must..
@@MzClementine Well DIGIC V is a processor which is used in that generation of Canon cameras. For example Canon EOS M and Canon EOS 650d/ T4i are using same processor DIGIC V, therefore they have same functionalities in Magic Lantern, plus 650d/ T4i have standard Canon EF mount for lenses, so you can use on it even 30years old Canon Lenses.
I have an original EOS-M. I feel the build quality is exelent. I haven't used for video yet, just for stills, but just bougth a microphone and a couple of LCD panels. :) Ok, it's not built like my 5D or 6D...but then again. I paid 150 USD with a bag and an extra batery. :)
I am new to learning about the Canon EOS M model Camera, and you’re right. This camera is apparently becoming more more difficult to locate. Can you run Magic Lantern on any of the other Canon M series of cameras?
Thanks a lot. This video solves all of my questions,, I should buy it now!!!
I’m glad it helped!
You did not address the live playback view issue.
They’re still cheap. Mine was £150 with bag, flash, kit lens (which I’ll sell so it’ll be about £100). I got it for photography as my s1 is too massive but the raw video is a lil bonus. I think rigging this out with a vmount etc totally defeats the purpose. And the rolling shutter and low light is horrendous.
Throw on a lil speed booster and a compact prime and you’re golden IMO. A nice backup portable camera. Look elsewhere If you want a dedicated video camera, but you can get lovely results if you don’t mind the limitations.
Is there any 60FPS mode?
does this only work on the M? Or M3, others as well?
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊
th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
Even compacts have inflated massively in value the last year or two. Before that, I picked up a Canon S95, the last powershot true compact/small body with the S90's CCD sensor and S100's hardware otherwise, in mint condition complete for 85 USD all in. That'll be hard to find now even close for a used model, much less mint/open box. I had a "Good" quality Fuji XQ1 I picked up for 60 bucks, cleaned up/repaired, set on my shelf, and sat on for a year or two, using it often enough to keep corrosion from setting on the dial. I sold it for 300 not too long ago, anything with Fuji or "xtrans" sells for way more than it's worth.
If you want these tiny bodies for a photo camera, you can still get the later version for cheap, but they moved away from the DSLR based firmware the M here has. That means nothing for an end-user, but the M having basically a DSLR's firmware (hardware calls and all) is what allowed ML to be ported over time. There are some attempts for other M cameras, but it'll be ages, if at all, for a solid version to release for them.
My question is why. Why buy an outdated pocket camera at a premium price? What’s the point?
Have you/ could you share one of your long captures straight out of the camera?
Do you have a link directly to the firmware update
thank you very much ... i use sd card 64 GB with my eos m and i download file of magiclatern to my card and i install the latest firmware but the camera cant read the magiclatern .... please heelp ...thank you
Make sure you get a good card. I recommend the Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 mb/s card. Be sure to change the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from the SD Overlock submenu by pressing the play button. After changing it to SDR 50, restart the camera to let it apply the new setting. Otherwise, you can not get continuos shooting.
I hope this help!
what about the cold? How does it handle very low temperatures? Some devices just shut off or die.
I’m fortunate (??) enough to be able afford a much more expensive raw video acquisition camera but I’m cheered that - for the cost of maybe a weekend away - one can buy a Canon M and - with a bit of close attention to instructions - get into raw video shooting. I may even be tempted to get one for situations where you want the lightest and smallest camera - when the cost of something is that low, it seems churlish to then dwell on its limitations or nitpick !
What is the current ml firm ware?
that's funny I have this cam it works grate. have No issues with it. did you drop your camera?
If want EF/EF-S rather than EF-M mount, and a flip screen... you can get the same Magic Lantern Crop Mood on the 650d/700d, in my experience at the moment cheaper than the EOS-M
I use this beast with old nikkor ais lenses. Soon to buy some pentax 110 lens to match.
Nice👌🏾 I do too. The 24mm f2.8 is my favorite.
Does the EOS-M have clean HDMI out???? HELP
I bought this camera about 100 years ago as a hobbyist and it's been sitting in my closet ever since, so basically new. What is the current value?
I'm interested in buying this camera, so i found a few and some of the sellers say that their camera is from 2013 and not 2012 so it has the Chinese chip and not the japanese chip so it over heats and doesn't work well is this true or are they just not using it properly?
I think this camera is same, canon not gonna do that, the brand image gonna be suck if canon do that
Wouldn't it be something if they made a ML for the later series like the M200
Hi everyone, I'm having an issue with my EOS M camera. When I adjust the ISO, the brightness of the image on the camera screen doesn't change. Normally, when the ISO is changed, the brightness should change accordingly, but this doesn't happen on my camera. As a result, the photos I take are often over or under exposed. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
Would it work for offline streaming?
GUYS IM A BEGINNER THAT JUST BOUGHT THIS CAMERA FROM EBAY, BUT IT DIDNT COME WITH LENSES, ARE THERE ANY THAT I CAN BUY THATS BUDGET FRIENDLY? TY (ANYTHING ELSE LIKE INFO ABOUT THIS CAMERA ID LIKE TOO!!)
What about autofocus?
i personally would love a video on cheap cinema cameras that would be a good alternative to this camera
which card reader is best for m1 MacBook Air ?
Hi, I don't think card reader really matters that much for M1 MacBook Air. So I think any card reader from Amazon would work fine for you! Hope this help
I am glad that I bought one from Japan used while they were still within $200. I heard that they increased the price now.
Did my first "music" cover video test using Canon M Magic Lantern(!): Deftones, Be Quite and Drive (Far Away): 😊
th-cam.com/video/WTjIIe4dyqc/w-d-xo.html
SD cards seem to be a major issue. I have the "exact" same SD card and it refuses to overclock (regardless of the access mode) and I can hardly do a thing with it. Benchmarks totally fine in play mode and super fast.
why can record 5k but not 4k? why not 4k 30fps?
Great video!
Is this camera limited to 30 min recording?
no. not with Magiclantern installed. Did you watch the video he said it haha.
Does autofocus work in magic lantern
I don't think so, I think you have to manually focus.
Crop Mood just made the camera AMAZING. it's so freaking stable compared with regular magic lantern...
I've used Danni's build before Crop mode and I find it less stable. Missing audio, stop recording for no reason, and similar. But looking forward for improvements.
@@vladimirkirillovskiy8056 that was my experience. i would never trust danne's build to something i needed to get quickly. just a lot of quirks.
Where can I get crop mode Ml?
I think my EOS M is complettly made of metal... are there different models out there?
I don't understand how a lens can actively stabilize an image.
What write speed do we need for it?
Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 mb/s card is the best card to get for the Canon EOS M with Magic Lantern. Be sure to change the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from the SD Overlock submenu by pressing the play button. After changing it to SDR 50, restart the camera to let it apply the new setting. Otherwise, you can not get continuos shooting.
I think you are mistaken. It was meant to shoot in 5k and 2.5k but Canon crippled it. That's the whole point of the firmware abstraction layer.
I herd they killed the eos m mount because it was hard to fit full frame lenses to
If you're shooting video using a tripod, stabilization adds nothing. It can even make things worse. So no IBIS is not a problem for video using a tripod. Many nice lenses for the Canon M series have no IS, which is a real problem for mobile videos (e.g. Walking and talking). So if you need that, then buy a gimbal.
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Share your settings for this magical 45 minute 5k anamorphic RAW 14 bit recording. I get 5 or 6 seconds. That’s it
How did you record 5k for an hour on 128GB card?
Magic Lantern Crop Mood
@@TimeFadesMemoryLasts right but the file size im saying
@@cjsaysthings Oh, right. 10bit vs 14bit saves you nearly 1/3 of the overall file size, for example. I often see data rates of 50MB/s for 14bit raw recording, which is around 180GB/h. 2/3 of that would be kind of in the ballpart of 128GB/h. 5K recorded in ML is actually cropped horizontally, so it's not actually 5K. I guess that's what affects the file size the most. "Real" 5K would result in huuuge file sizes.
@@TimeFadesMemoryLasts i guess. I had a 5d mrk3 and couldn’t get file size close to that even at 10 bit so who knows
HEY YOU NEED TO TRY MAGIC LANTERN WITH THE C100 NOW DO A VIDEO ON THAT AND CREDIT GEMINI KNIGHT
this 5k isnt normal 5k. it has strange aspect ratio. so u can't call it 5k.
So nobody's gonna figure out how to put magic lantern on the M50 or m100? Really?
If been first would have give me this camera i would have won. Danm
If you think it's a scam, you have no idea what you are doing. Buy an iPhone.
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Come on it's not real 5K
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Dude! You used a $3500.00 dollar camera to make this video.
Maybe because your 5k mode was wrong. Check your resolution. If you set 5.2k mode, you can only get like 3 sec video recording time.
Find it on youtube
Laoraaa
First view.
That camera is Not Cheap made. Magnesium alloy body. You are so full of crap! Not cheap either when introduced. Try about $1000 when released in late 2012. They made more than a couple of M cameras. Not a couple. Need to get your facts straight. BTW, I've had one since 2013.
It always surprises me that a camera 12 years manufacturer is expecting 2024 technologies!
How difficult is it read the online manual or release information about this camera!
Canon EOS-M was the first mirror less APSC camera!
If your TH-cam viewers are looking for ‘All Singing and Dancing’ APS-C camera with video facilities ….. buy the Sony A6700! An awesome camera! Highly recommended at £1450 in UK!
1678362th damn! I came for free stuff ..not for content 😒🤣🤣
Anyway it’s nearly impossible for normal uses. Okay you have some continuous recording in 3-5k, but in crop like 6x times, which requires super wide angle lenses like 6mm, and 1080 looks absolutely terrible with noise and moire all over. Tried it, but found it just cumbersome and non practical, I’d suggest people to get original black magic pocket instead.