I've been in HVACR for 30 years and the focus seems to have always been on making more energy efficient systems instead of insulation. If you significantly reduce heat transfer in a building then you won't have to expend as much energy moving heat out in the summer or creating heat in the winter. What we are doing now, for the most part, is analogous to having a boat with holes in it and instead of fixing the holes we are trying to developed more energy efficient bilge pumps.
Sounds goods, however there's a big BUT. Heavily insulated areas encourage the build up of Radon gas which is the number one lung disease killer in the modern world, higher than smoking or cancer. Energy efficiency and self sustainability is the key. You can insulate all you want but living in a capsule of a home is not fun.
You're right! I have a friend that lives in Louisiana, he built his house with double block. He's never paid more thatn $30 a month to cool or heat his house.
@@bryanleavitt2041 - Or, at least more comfortable, and maybe less Fearful! 🤔🧐 I wonder, do Basement "Tenants" have "Higher Death Rate" than "Upstairs Tenants", overall, too? (In houses, I have Lived in both of these experiences! Plus, in Apartment Buildings, from 2nd Floor, to 22nd Floor!)
it is 100% legal... What a weird thing to say. We all get huge benefits from being off the grid and get nice federal benefits and rebates. This video is painful, it's just an awful advertisement. This guy is just advertising his AC units..... One of the worst money grabbing videos they've done. If you build a home or have a decent side yard (15 ft from your neighbor is plenty), use geothermal... then add a few solar panels (not as many as this guy) and live 100% off the grid easily. I spend 200 a month for my geo install bills, and 60 for solar, 100% off the grid. 2600sqft house. Don't belive this.
The government shouldn't be able to force you to buy into a private service. That's why public utilities (and all natural monopolies) should be run by the state. The state wouldn't care if you produce your own electricity and they won't fine you for using solar. My homestate private electric utility just added a fee for using solar. 30 bucks a month, I think. Complete horseshit.
@@2awesome292 yes they will shut it off and kick you out of your own home as well. This not right but it is what they will do. So a better option is to use solar to power small ticket items and pay a very small bill. Although your only powering the small ticket items build your system to power your hole home in case of power outage for whatever reason. In this case they can not tell you how power you have to use. Also, remember and know there is a loop hole in every law. In Florida for example, if the power company says you can't have solar then buy an RV and turn it into your power station. There is no law saying you can't put solar on your RV. As long as you have a bill being paid theres nothing they can do. Just keep your trap shut and all will go ok. Also, be sure to obey the laws of keeping an RV on your land.
I installed my own residential wind turbine, backyard and solar panels on my roof and produce about: 120% of the power for my house. I'm still on-grid but only pay: $14./mo. to stay connected. This saves from buying batteries. Our system charges our EV's also. The secret is, do as much of the work as you can, yourself. Saves thousands!
Why in every this old house video I read comments of people complaining and almost hating the show? If you hate it why do you watch it? If you have better ideas or you can do it better, why don't you make your own videos? I love TOH videos, they always teach me something new and I try to learn and apply what I learned on my own house... It's not easy, they make to look easy and I learned it the hard way
A near 7,000 sq ft home that is resource efficient. Impressive. I've been working on making my 230 sq ft tiny home's foundation slab a thermal storage battery and have increased perimeter insulation to contain more of the solar gain. The thermal battery can keep the home at 70F for roughly 12 hours on sunny days until midnight without use of the heat pump when temperatures are mid 30'sF or above but I'd like to approach PAHS levels which a friend did with her 1,700 sq ft home. Her home stored summer heat to slowly release over several months without any machinery or furnance. I visited in March and the home was 68F and no heat source had been used since December. That's what sold me as it seemed simpler than even Passive House.
At church we use McQuay chillers, does good for a big building where the seating area is like movie theater, it slopes downwards towards the front, and the ceiling (bout 20 to 25 ft) is cloud like with gaps to let the hot air stay high up there past the clouds, another 15 to 20 ft.
Many zero-energy-houses in Europe use big isolated watertanks for many years, also subsurface heat-collectors for storing cold and heat are common (geothermal heat pumps). But as long as oil and gas from fracking is pushed so cheap into the US market, nothing will change.
You could store liquid refrigerant, but 200 gallons of R410a comes with all kinds of headaches. The water or glycol are much less complex and risky. What is the "time to payoff" vs. "estimated life of equipment"? What is TCO and ROI? How does that translate to a 1200 to 1500 sq-ft (typical) residence and not a mansion? It looks fun.
kind of yes. but (fwiw) "luxury" tech can (well, if koch brothers et al don't pay off politicians to prevent it) eventually become "commoditized" - i.e., "affordable" and "common." that's REAL "trickle down." (not economics ... that's bs and no one should believe that lie.) my bff in college said the computer set-up you want is always about $2000. bc of "commoditizing," that's still mostly true - even while the "set-ups" get more and more powerful (and our expectations grow vs "barebones"). odd fact: "trickle down" was originally about fashion ... until gop co-opted it for an econ lie.
Actually I know a fellow heating his home and shop in Alberta with similar principals. Only he is using evacuated tube solar collectors, and 5000 gallons of storage. The whole system cost him less than 10k. Hasn't had a heating bill in 6 years.
Fall leaves can surround structure for instant heat, save leaves and stockpile around greenhouses to heat them... bury your structure into the ground if possible semiburied, garden on top... watering creates a barrier as does soil, to maintain a temperature desired. You can do it a lot cheaper with your surroundings, rather than expensive tanks and labor to bury outside materials... and what's he doing in the winter, that system isn't going to work as efficient as earthly models, and who can even afford all that....
derty QWERTY It's much harder - if not, impossible - to get building permits for Earthly models in many municipalities. It's not necessarily a matter of X is cheaper than Y. It's a matter of Y is expensive and X is not currently legal.
Charles Eye We need to work on that. The universal building codes need to be modified. Who approves those codes anyway? I recently came across some teenagers making negative comments about vernacular cob houses in third world countries. That snobby, ignorant mindset is what is holding us back. There are beautiful cob and strawbale houses that are a durable, safe and sturdy alternative. The thought of that expensive equipment breaking down and needing replacement or repairs plus being awful to look at are turnoffs. Better, cleverer design features on a house can replace space and money intensive machinery.
This seems to be quite a cool and unique project.. I only have a few problems with this explanation. (1) We've learned way back in school heat rises and cold air sinks but @6:21 it kinda shows hot air being pulled in from the floor while cold air is pumped into the top (which would work at 1st when turned on [entire house is hot], after that the intake/ distribution vents should be reversed from what is shown since hot air rises. Waiting for some1 to say cold air is denser than hot air and the cold forces the hot air down!?! (2) Once the heat is moved to the tanks for storage how are they kept hot are there electrical heater coils in the tanks or what?
"hot" air is air that is "colder" than the output air from the cooling system which would be any air in the house because physics. The take away is they are using energy when it is readily available(day time from solar or cheaper off peak in the commercial setting) to store for later.
well there you go a 144 panel array or roughly 50kw...massive 300kwh a day or a 1000$/mo powerbill roughly thats being replaced with solar if you have the land and can install a large ground mounted cheap array in your backyard directly facing the sun near your breaker box you get alot more bang for your buck than a chopped up roof system that isnt pointing the perfect direction. curious about how efficient the hot/cold tanks are compared to a battery and their cost any fridge could make ice at night, but I'm guessing it would strain the relatively weak ice maker quite quickly as its not designed for heavy duty daily use for years. also takes up space so not popular in consumer units
arrest me, it’s a civil issue , not a crime ...big energy wants they cut...why should , we as a home owner , depend on the power company? Not arguing ...
You're obviously not aware of how solar systems work. Every bit of power your residential solar makes goes out to the grid. All the power you use comes from the grid, not from your roof. That's why solar has to be grid tied and always will be.
My solar isn't grid tied, its connected to 3 separate lithium ion batteries with wall built inverters and sockets. Off grid systems are easily built and don't require a grid-tied inverter.
This seems great. Why would anyone do geothermal with trenches? It takes up so much less space. Is there enough heating for zone 6 with this setup compared to trenches?
The guy lives in a palace so yes an industrial strength system probably makes sense. Installing all that in a normal sized house would cost more than the house
Engineer 775 installed this system in 2018. He received no credit for his install. He should have been on the show. Also, he was only allowed to install 20 KV, because of some B.S. Law in S. Carolina.
Some off-grid homeowners on an island in the Keys were forced to connect to the electric and water utilities and sewer. They chose to buy land and build a house on an unattached island (ferried to/from 'land'), in order to live independantly. But along came the government.... I understand the sewer requirements (for water quality), but water and electric?
Alot of people complain about how "rich" the houses are etc... Apparently it is shameful to have a nice house... Don't envy others, put your nose down and work hard... No one owes you anything...
I don't have chillers, but otherwise, my home is pretty similar, yep. I'm not sharing a link, but if you are going to travel to PA anytime soon and would like to stop in for a tour, feel free to contact me.
If I ever win the lottery, I will go offgrid too. I live in the same area as this gentleman. I'm so happy he is able to do this. I wish we all could. We need to get rid of gasoline, natural gas and fuel oil heating systems.
We cant get rid of gasoline because instead of our cars sounding like a pack of Panthers getting raped it would just make the sound like ggggggggaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy when you hit the pedal.
They should have gone to Congressman Thomas Massie's house in KY where he powers his entire home off of a salvaged Tesla battery system. He is an MIT Engineering grad and a great, smart guy. He is by far the most green person in government and isn't an environmentalist, just likes off grid living. Google his videos on youtube how he did it. They are great.
If I ever have the money to Build my own house, I would do some geothermal and solar panels and maybe a couple of wind generators if I have enough land... such a good use of the money
Insulation and good windows, maybe passive solar depending on where you live must be your top priorities. The cheapest energy is the one you don't use.
Chiller by Multiaqua, and Hot & Cold storage tanks by Calmac (IceBank) A Model... Anyone knows how much it cost to purchase the equipment? Cool tech at what price $$$$$. Credit to Engineer 775 for linking this video. If you have to ask... you can't afford kind of price... ?
I work at dairy manufacturing, we have cooling exchanges that are glycol based and yes these setups are very expensive. The power prices will have to go way up before this is a viable. This man already has money and most likely a business in this industry. Also if his house is far from the power lines, maybe the connection costs offset his solar panel cost.
Yes many years old tech(much better new heat storage and usage tech available since 2017), but i am still wondering, why did he do not use ground heat to heat in winters?
Lol his face when the guy in the blue shirt said “oh what do you use the hot wateretc for” after him telling the dude he use it for showers,dishes,pool,w.e lol
What they're not talking about is how long it would take to recapture the initial investment, in this case the investment is monumental and I've seen some formulas taking over 30 years to recapture and this doesn't include maintenance and upkeep of that equipment. It is highly burdensome and inconvenient.
There's a channel here on TH-cam called *Engineer775* He runs a company that from what I remember, helped w/the install and/or the setup of this system! pretty awesome overall if you ask me! :)
Pretty much anything that cost more than six figures is awesome. Or it sure as hell should be! Engineer775 is stacking up some serious dollars selling this stuff to people with more money than brains.
Buy 4 really good quality tapes like the procarpenters from fastcap. They are inexpensive. Then leave one at every major station, one in the rolling tool storage, one at the table saw, one at the bench, and one on your belt. You will never look for a tape measure again. I do the same with pencils. Buy a box and leave them everywhere.
Thanks very interesting . England UK, is very far behind on all this. green technology. The North sea gas, / oil held us back in the Fossil ages, for far too long, now we are way behind in the modern stuff. Cheers.
"why has it been a slow adoption for residential use?" ha ha - just a wild guess here... maybe it's the 144 panel array?! If those are 250W panels and panels are currently around $1/watt, that is $36k for just the panels. That is cool and all, but panels represent the _cheapest_ subset of components of most solar systems these days, so batteries being involved (as was mentioned in the video indirectly) means this is probably $120-150k+ system. The average kWh price in the USA is $.12. With an average monthly home use of 909 kWh/month, there is simply no justification for most people to go solar. because they spend barely $110/mo as it is. I really hope people all can someday, but it is still 5-20x more expensive than grid power in most of the lower 48 states.
I'm not saying RE isn't a great thing (i have it myself) - just that the current rate of adoptions is slow because of the comparitively cheap cost of POCO-supplied power in MOST of the US. HI and CA are definitely above average, as are some other places. Even in those environments, battery-based systems still cost more than POCO rates when the real cost is understood. Batteries are wonderful for some things, but saving money is NOT one of them in most cases.
The point of the video was to show the technology and adapting thermal batteries to residential use... not your conventional electron batteries. The cost of batteries are coming down as the technology advances. They are simply showing the technology of a “future house”. It’s understood that not everyone has the means to go completely off grid like this. Each step that the communities take toward RE takes the POCO out of YOUR pocket and someone has to blaze the trail for the better good of the public. The sad thing is that this man is doing that not for him but for you guys and everyone comments on this video bashing him.
Joshua Turner read my comments again. I didn't bash him or his approach or RE! I came here to this video because I'm interested and actively using these things. I was merely commenting on the mention of slow adoption. The thermal approach is awesome. If you notice tho, he mentions plain old batteries too which aren't a path to renewables for most people and won't be at parity with POCO for the foreseeable future unless fossil fuels become so heavily taxed that suddenly RE with batteries is a good deal. But at that point, batteries aren't much contribution to RE vs just grid tied.
Well when I have several acres of land and some serious cash I can part with I will consider a football field filled with solar panels and the needed space for a wind turbine along with several 1000 gallon heat storing tanks..... must be nice to have several million dollars laying around that you can spend on such things...
this is my kind of off grid. lol im not the kinda person to rough it out... too spoiled with modern conviniences. just telling the truth. this would be pretty amazing if more people could live like this.
Great insight into the build just subscribed and it’s a nice compact turbine I also have built a homemade 650 watts wind turbine, a treadmill motor turbine and a little but powerful ametek 30v turbine and built 2 diy solar panels, be careful in high winds one of my first turbines blew up 😕and now have only 2 wonderful turbines working daily 😊it’s very satisfying watching those things working, keep up the good work buddy 👍
The problem with "off grid" is you are still dependent on the system. You simply act as your own grid and are responsible for repairs and mantainence. You lose the economies of scale and it costs you more. A true off grid house would not have electric or cable. In 90% of cases "on-grid is simply cheaper then off grid.
Another huge problem is down to having the land and the huge bank full of money to pay for the tech? Looking at that man in the countryside he is a millionaire and most likely owns a huge area of private land too so he can do anything to have the future off grid home. those solar panels alone worth more than most people can afford. So all down to being rich having the land and space around you to do it without neighbors moaning at you?
For what the gentleman in the green shirt was talking about, with small modular BTU "batteries", check out Sunamp on the Fully Charged show. ( th-cam.com/video/9upXeTMHUqE/w-d-xo.html ) problem is they're quite pricey and chances are if you can afford them you probably also have the land (or even space inside your home) to fit one of these glycol systems which would probably be much cheaper. But, if the technology takes off enough for commercial applications, prices may come down to make them feasible for residential.
all new houses should be built with an effort to be off grid, its more efficient and its better not just for the homeowner but for national security. decentralization is the future.
I've been in HVACR for 30 years and the focus seems to have always been on making more energy efficient systems instead of insulation. If you significantly reduce heat transfer in a building then you won't have to expend as much energy moving heat out in the summer or creating heat in the winter. What we are doing now, for the most part, is analogous to having a boat with holes in it and instead of fixing the holes we are trying to developed more energy efficient bilge pumps.
thiiiis. problem is people want cheap houses and they get lobbied for too
Sounds goods, however there's a big BUT. Heavily insulated areas encourage the build up of Radon gas which is the number one lung disease killer in the modern world, higher than smoking or cancer. Energy efficiency and self sustainability is the key. You can insulate all you want but living in a capsule of a home is not fun.
You're right!
I have a friend that lives in Louisiana, he built his house with double block. He's never paid more thatn $30 a month to cool or heat his house.
@@etsie2601 If you have proper mechanical ventilation systems then you are ok
@@bryanleavitt2041 - Or, at least more comfortable, and maybe less Fearful! 🤔🧐
I wonder, do Basement "Tenants" have "Higher Death Rate" than "Upstairs Tenants", overall, too? (In houses, I have Lived in both of these experiences! Plus, in Apartment Buildings, from 2nd Floor, to 22nd Floor!)
Great to see TOH getting on board with sustainability innovation. The concept of a “BTU battery “ is elegant and scalable I love it!
I've never seen one of these vids that properly addresses maintenance, repairs and replacement impacts
Now Get involved in government and make sure the laws are to the people's benefit! Legalize 100% Off Grid!
Yeah, you need to essentially topple the government for that. It's harder to tax someone who's of the grid.
it is 100% legal... What a weird thing to say. We all get huge benefits from being off the grid and get nice federal benefits and rebates.
This video is painful, it's just an awful advertisement. This guy is just advertising his AC units..... One of the worst money grabbing videos they've done.
If you build a home or have a decent side yard (15 ft from your neighbor is plenty), use geothermal... then add a few solar panels (not as many as this guy) and live 100% off the grid easily.
I spend 200 a month for my geo install bills, and 60 for solar, 100% off the grid. 2600sqft house. Don't belive this.
What type of geothermal though?
Are we going back to living like in the 1700???
yeah ask permission from the gov't overlords...sniffle.
The problem is some utlities have convinced legislatures to pass laws saying a grid connection is required.
The government shouldn't be able to force you to buy into a private service. That's why public utilities (and all natural monopolies) should be run by the state. The state wouldn't care if you produce your own electricity and they won't fine you for using solar. My homestate private electric utility just added a fee for using solar. 30 bucks a month, I think. Complete horseshit.
grid connection might be mandatory but that doesn't mean you have to use it
Just don't pay the bill, they will shut it off for you...
@@2awesome292 yes they will shut it off and kick you out of your own home as well. This not right but it is what they will do. So a better option is to use solar to power small ticket items and pay a very small bill. Although your only powering the small ticket items build your system to power your hole home in case of power outage for whatever reason. In this case they can not tell you how power you have to use. Also, remember and know there is a loop hole in every law. In Florida for example, if the power company says you can't have solar then buy an RV and turn it into your power station. There is no law saying you can't put solar on your RV. As long as you have a bill being paid theres nothing they can do. Just keep your trap shut and all will go ok. Also, be sure to obey the laws of keeping an RV on your land.
Truthfears Guilty what type of energy company do you have?
Richard Trethewey (Plumber) said it best, a scalable modular BTU battery that you could get into a doorway. I've always liked Richard, a real plumber.
Credit to engineer775 for doing the work on this build. Go check out his channel for the details of the build!!!
I thought the house looked familiar!
link?
I installed my own residential wind turbine, backyard and solar panels on my roof and produce about: 120% of the power for my house. I'm still on-grid but only pay: $14./mo. to stay connected. This saves from buying batteries. Our system charges our EV's also. The secret is, do as much of the work as you can, yourself. Saves thousands!
Do you have any links on how you did it and what you used?
What kind made and model do you use and how much does it cost
Can you give use details
Don’t you wanna sell energy back to the grid?
Russell Fine Arts it’s either your a very bad liar or a delusional individual or both
Why in every this old house video I read comments of people complaining and almost hating the show? If you hate it why do you watch it? If you have better ideas or you can do it better, why don't you make your own videos? I love TOH videos, they always teach me something new and I try to learn and apply what I learned on my own house... It's not easy, they make to look easy and I learned it the hard way
David L. That’s because they are armchair Know it all do nothings. Thank You for noticing it. I thought I was the only one.
Lol
I would love a house this sustainable.
A near 7,000 sq ft home that is resource efficient. Impressive. I've been working on making my 230 sq ft tiny home's foundation slab a thermal storage battery and have increased perimeter insulation to contain more of the solar gain. The thermal battery can keep the home at 70F for roughly 12 hours on sunny days until midnight without use of the heat pump when temperatures are mid 30'sF or above but I'd like to approach PAHS levels which a friend did with her 1,700 sq ft home. Her home stored summer heat to slowly release over several months without any machinery or furnance. I visited in March and the home was 68F and no heat source had been used since December. That's what sold me as it seemed simpler than even Passive House.
At church we use McQuay chillers, does good for a big building where the seating area is like movie theater, it slopes downwards towards the front, and the ceiling (bout 20 to 25 ft) is cloud like with gaps to let the hot air stay high up there past the clouds, another 15 to 20 ft.
Now it is march 2020.
A follow up video of the progress would be of great interest.
Many zero-energy-houses in Europe use big isolated watertanks for many years, also subsurface heat-collectors for storing cold and heat are common (geothermal heat pumps). But as long as oil and gas from fracking is pushed so cheap into the US market, nothing will change.
I was expecting more in this video, than just efficiently maintaining temperature...
If you want to see the REAL video install, watch the installer, Engineer 775 (TH-cam ) install it.
You could store liquid refrigerant, but 200 gallons of R410a comes with all kinds of headaches. The water or glycol are much less complex and risky. What is the "time to payoff" vs. "estimated life of equipment"? What is TCO and ROI? How does that translate to a 1200 to 1500 sq-ft (typical) residence and not a mansion? It looks fun.
it suppose to read, RICH people future off the grid living
kind of yes. but (fwiw) "luxury" tech can (well, if koch brothers et al don't pay off politicians to prevent it) eventually become "commoditized" - i.e., "affordable" and "common." that's REAL "trickle down." (not economics ... that's bs and no one should believe that lie.)
my bff in college said the computer set-up you want is always about $2000. bc of "commoditizing," that's still mostly true - even while the "set-ups" get more and more powerful (and our expectations grow vs "barebones").
odd fact: "trickle down" was originally about fashion ... until gop co-opted it for an econ lie.
People are living in earthships which can be done for cheaper but still need some investment up front. But you do save alot over the years.
Not if you are an HVAC Tech
Actually I know a fellow heating his home and shop in Alberta with similar principals. Only he is using evacuated tube solar collectors, and 5000 gallons of storage. The whole system cost him less than 10k. Hasn't had a heating bill in 6 years.
Oh boo hoo.
I think most people think "Off-Grid" means a shack in the woods. Our home is 3400 sqft and fully Off-Grid. Works just fine.
Love this! Please do more shows on this subject.
It would be nice to see more of this content.
Fall leaves can surround structure for instant heat, save leaves and stockpile around greenhouses to heat them... bury your structure into the ground if possible semiburied, garden on top... watering creates a barrier as does soil, to maintain a temperature desired. You can do it a lot cheaper with your surroundings, rather than expensive tanks and labor to bury outside materials... and what's he doing in the winter, that system isn't going to work as efficient as earthly models, and who can even afford all that....
derty QWERTY It's much harder - if not, impossible - to get building permits for Earthly models in many municipalities. It's not necessarily a matter of X is cheaper than Y. It's a matter of Y is expensive and X is not currently legal.
Charles Eye
We need to work on that. The universal building codes need to be modified. Who approves those codes anyway?
I recently came across some teenagers making negative comments about vernacular cob houses in third world countries. That snobby, ignorant mindset is what is holding us back.
There are beautiful cob and strawbale houses that are a durable, safe and sturdy alternative.
The thought of that expensive equipment breaking down and needing replacement or repairs plus being awful to look at are turnoffs.
Better, cleverer design features on a house can replace space and money intensive machinery.
This seems to be quite a cool and unique project.. I only have a few problems with this explanation. (1) We've learned way back in school heat rises and cold air sinks but @6:21 it kinda shows hot air being pulled in from the floor while cold air is pumped into the top (which would work at 1st when turned on [entire house is hot], after that the intake/ distribution vents should be reversed from what is shown since hot air rises. Waiting for some1 to say cold air is denser than hot air and the cold forces the hot air down!?! (2) Once the heat is moved to the tanks for storage how are they kept hot are there electrical heater coils in the tanks or what?
"hot" air is air that is "colder" than the output air from the cooling system which would be any air in the house because physics.
The take away is they are using energy when it is readily available(day time from solar or cheaper off peak in the commercial setting) to store for later.
I have a friend that lives in Louisiana, he built his house with double block. He's never paid more thatn $30 a month to cool or heat his house.
I remember seeing like this on a different television channel. A library use this concept to cool the building by storing the rain and using it.
What’s the difference in using Geo Thermal ?
Which one is less costly?
What iis the brand of chillers being used? Make and model?
well there you go a 144 panel array or roughly 50kw...massive
300kwh a day or a 1000$/mo powerbill roughly thats being replaced with solar
if you have the land and can install a large ground mounted cheap array in your backyard directly facing the sun near your breaker box you get alot more bang for your buck than a chopped up roof system that isnt pointing the perfect direction.
curious about how efficient the hot/cold tanks are compared to a battery and their cost
any fridge could make ice at night, but I'm guessing it would strain the relatively weak ice maker quite quickly as its not designed for heavy duty daily use for years. also takes up space so not popular in consumer units
Sadly off gird is illegal in some states/counties.
Florida is the worst state, They mandate that every home is connected to the power grid.
arrest me, it’s a civil issue , not a crime ...big energy wants they cut...why should , we as a home owner , depend on the power company? Not arguing ...
You can largely get around that by being connected but not actually using the electricity.
as +fux yews said use the energy you produce not theirs. the best way to do this is using batteries to store in the day and use at night.
You're obviously not aware of how solar systems work. Every bit of power your residential solar makes goes out to the grid. All the power you use comes from the grid, not from your roof. That's why solar has to be grid tied and always will be.
My solar isn't grid tied, its connected to 3 separate lithium ion batteries with wall built inverters and sockets.
Off grid systems are easily built and don't require a grid-tied inverter.
does the water not evaporate when heater and not used enough??
Great tips 👍🤩
Love the location that house is in. That's just what I picture my dream house to be. On top of a big hill with mountains all around.
My church has a building with it's own geothermal AC/Heat.
This seems great. Why would anyone do geothermal with trenches? It takes up so much less space.
Is there enough heating for zone 6 with this setup compared to trenches?
The guy lives in a palace so yes an industrial strength system probably makes sense. Installing all that in a normal sized house would cost more than the house
Engineer 775 installed this system in 2018. He received no credit for his install. He should have been on the show. Also, he was only allowed to install 20 KV, because of some B.S. Law in S. Carolina.
Some off-grid homeowners on an island in the Keys were forced to connect to the electric and water utilities and sewer. They chose to buy land and build a house on an unattached island (ferried to/from 'land'), in order to live independantly. But along came the government.... I understand the sewer requirements (for water quality), but water and electric?
I heard about a community called whisper valley that uses solar panels and geothermal heating and cooling in all there homes, seems pretty cool
It’s not only “old technology”, today it’s also extremely ‘expensive’ technology. Not many can afford off grid living.
Alot of people complain about how "rich" the houses are etc... Apparently it is shameful to have a nice house... Don't envy others, put your nose down and work hard... No one owes you anything...
well said - poverty often begins in the mind. If you see others as having what you can't, you're going to be poor a long time.
So you two have houses like this?
Anne K uhh huh?
I don't have chillers, but otherwise, my home is pretty similar, yep. I'm not sharing a link, but if you are going to travel to PA anytime soon and would like to stop in for a tour, feel free to contact me.
Well said, sir.
I'm more interested in the HVAC system. Is there any online resource so I can learn more?
www.multiaqua.com/index.php/contact-us
Great technology but they did not discuss the cost factor. Which is cheap for a homeowner and which has a minimum maintenance.
Would this work well in the Hot Southern states as well?
South Carolina *IS* a hot southern state. Like 99 at the state capitol this week... in spring.
If I ever win the lottery, I will go offgrid too. I live in the same area as this gentleman. I'm so happy he is able to do this. I wish we all could. We need to get rid of gasoline, natural gas and fuel oil heating systems.
We cant get rid of gasoline because instead of our cars sounding like a pack of Panthers getting raped it would just make the sound like ggggggggaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy when you hit the pedal.
It’s an old video, but the BTU battery solution exists now. Checkout sunamp
Will the chiller tank work in colder climate.
It should as long as the system could handle the water freezing, but you might not need it if you only ran ac a few days a year
Cool, but I wanted to know more about the water/sewer. Is it as simple as running your pumps off solar? What about their food?
Would there be any problem with condensation from the cold water pipe?
Interesting, but what are the costs for a set up like this for someone with a "normal" sized house? Where's the how-to? We need some more details!
Is there a off grid plan for what this man uses? How too? Materials? Appliances? Etc.
so where does the water come from/ get filtered and someone explain the sewage system
How much does a system like this cost?
That is a YUUUUUUGE array
They should have gone to Congressman Thomas Massie's house in KY where he powers his entire home off of a salvaged Tesla battery system. He is an MIT Engineering grad and a great, smart guy. He is by far the most green person in government and isn't an environmentalist, just likes off grid living.
Google his videos on youtube how he did it. They are great.
I bet you’d discover he is an environmentalist if you started dumping toxins on his land...
@@Mulberrysmile You don't need to be an environmentalist to care about your property and the environment. That is absurd.
where solar tracking rack?
If I ever have the money to
Build my own house, I would do some geothermal and solar panels and maybe a couple of wind generators if I have enough land... such a good use of the money
Insulation and good windows, maybe passive solar depending on where you live must be your top priorities. The cheapest energy is the one you don't use.
The upfront costs are immense...many years for payback..
Chiller by Multiaqua, and Hot & Cold storage tanks by Calmac (IceBank) A Model... Anyone knows how much it cost to purchase the equipment? Cool tech at what price $$$$$. Credit to Engineer 775 for linking this video. If you have to ask... you can't afford kind of price... ?
I want this in the uk. No more cash going to big gas companies
This guy also lives in South Carolina, which while it does get hot, it barely gets cold.
I bet that system produces enough hot water to keep the pool toasty. nice!
Do you have list and est. pricing of your system?
15 million
Any one recommend videos or websites that elaborate on the way the system works.
Yea, look up engineer775 here on youtube. he did the build.
How much does all of this cost? I want to do similar but need to know how much and if I can afford it.
If you have to ask, you can’t
How much does it cost? It looks expensive
I work at dairy manufacturing, we have cooling exchanges that are glycol based and yes these setups are very expensive. The power prices will have to go way up before this is a viable. This man already has money and most likely a business in this industry. Also if his house is far from the power lines, maybe the connection costs offset his solar panel cost.
Yes many years old tech(much better new heat storage and usage tech available since 2017), but i am still wondering, why did he do not use ground heat to heat in winters?
Great
Lol his face when the guy in the blue shirt said “oh what do you use the hot wateretc for” after him telling the dude he use it for showers,dishes,pool,w.e lol
What they're not talking about is how long it would take to recapture the initial investment, in this case the investment is monumental and I've seen some formulas taking over 30 years to recapture and this doesn't include maintenance and upkeep of that equipment. It is highly burdensome and inconvenient.
Can't wait for part 2. WOW !!!!!!!!!
Wow. Ross, looks and sounds like his dad
There's a channel here on TH-cam called *Engineer775*
He runs a company that from what I remember, helped w/the install and/or the setup of this system!
pretty awesome overall if you ask me! :)
Pretty much anything that cost more than six figures is awesome. Or it sure as hell should be! Engineer775 is stacking up some serious dollars selling this stuff to people with more money than brains.
I wonder how much all that cost. Obviously I don't need or have 1/2 his house. Super cool!
Thanks for sharing this information! Cool these dudes are all into it, the future is NOW
This video sounds like an ad for a chiller lol. Does the place have wifi is all i want to know
“Big house and a pool”...... lol lol lol, yeah just can’t beat Kevin’s wit and humor. Those guys work well together. Will miss them when they retire.
Buy 4 really good quality tapes like the procarpenters from fastcap. They are inexpensive. Then leave one at every major station, one in the rolling tool storage, one at the table saw, one at the bench, and one on your belt. You will never look for a tape measure again. I do the same with pencils. Buy a box and leave them everywhere.
Very interesting. What is the cost structure to do what he did?
They didn’t mention this because the cost would have been astronomical if you pay retail prices.
I watched this install on another youtube channel. Wish i remembered which now ...
Engineer775
@@richardedwardpay ... that's right!!! Thanks for the recall.
Thanks very interesting . England UK, is very far behind on all this. green technology.
The North sea gas, / oil held us back in the Fossil ages, for far too long, now we are way behind in the modern stuff.
Cheers.
That guy played his cards right.
"why has it been a slow adoption for residential use?" ha ha - just a wild guess here... maybe it's the 144 panel array?! If those are 250W panels and panels are currently around $1/watt, that is $36k for just the panels. That is cool and all, but panels represent the _cheapest_ subset of components of most solar systems these days, so batteries being involved (as was mentioned in the video indirectly) means this is probably $120-150k+ system.
The average kWh price in the USA is $.12. With an average monthly home use of 909 kWh/month, there is simply no justification for most people to go solar. because they spend barely $110/mo as it is. I really hope people all can someday, but it is still 5-20x more expensive than grid power in most of the lower 48 states.
nevertheless, this is all very very cool and a smart idea
Hawaii is $0.48 a kWh and steadily working its way on the west coast across the country... coming to a town near you.
I'm not saying RE isn't a great thing (i have it myself) - just that the current rate of adoptions is slow because of the comparitively cheap cost of POCO-supplied power in MOST of the US. HI and CA are definitely above average, as are some other places. Even in those environments, battery-based systems still cost more than POCO rates when the real cost is understood. Batteries are wonderful for some things, but saving money is NOT one of them in most cases.
The point of the video was to show the technology and adapting thermal batteries to residential use... not your conventional electron batteries. The cost of batteries are coming down as the technology advances. They are simply showing the technology of a “future house”. It’s understood that not everyone has the means to go completely off grid like this. Each step that the communities take toward RE takes the POCO out of YOUR pocket and someone has to blaze the trail for the better good of the public. The sad thing is that this man is doing that not for him but for you guys and everyone comments on this video bashing him.
Joshua Turner read my comments again. I didn't bash him or his approach or RE! I came here to this video because I'm interested and actively using these things. I was merely commenting on the mention of slow adoption. The thermal approach is awesome. If you notice tho, he mentions plain old batteries too which aren't a path to renewables for most people and won't be at parity with POCO for the foreseeable future unless fossil fuels become so heavily taxed that suddenly RE with batteries is a good deal. But at that point, batteries aren't much contribution to RE vs just grid tied.
Well when I have several acres of land and some serious cash I can part with I will consider a football field filled with solar panels and the needed space for a wind turbine along with several 1000 gallon heat storing tanks..... must be nice to have several million dollars laying around that you can spend on such things...
this is my kind of off grid. lol im not the kinda person to rough it out... too spoiled with modern conviniences. just telling the truth. this would be pretty amazing if more people could live like this.
In a perfect society, we will have engineers and scientists like this person in govt and creating regulation
In a perfect society, we would have no government regulations.
@@ArcticProxy Cause there'll be no gov. in the first place!
@@ImmortalFabrizio Yes! Somebody understands
Great insight into the build just subscribed and it’s a nice compact turbine I also have built a homemade 650 watts wind turbine, a treadmill motor turbine and a little but powerful ametek 30v turbine and built 2 diy solar panels, be careful in high winds one of my first turbines blew up 😕and now have only 2 wonderful turbines working daily 😊it’s very satisfying watching those things working, keep up the good work buddy 👍
The problem with "off grid" is you are still dependent on the system. You simply act as your own grid and are responsible for repairs and mantainence. You lose the economies of scale and it costs you more. A true off grid house would not have electric or cable. In 90% of cases "on-grid is simply cheaper then off grid.
love the carolinas
Can we see the total solar system, batteries, etc ?????????????????????????
Another huge problem is down to having the land and the huge bank full of money to pay for the tech? Looking at that man in the countryside he is a millionaire and most likely owns a huge area of private land too so he can do anything to have the future off grid home. those solar panels alone worth more than most people can afford. So all down to being rich having the land and space around you to do it without neighbors moaning at you?
For what the gentleman in the green shirt was talking about, with small modular BTU "batteries", check out Sunamp on the Fully Charged show. ( th-cam.com/video/9upXeTMHUqE/w-d-xo.html ) problem is they're quite pricey and chances are if you can afford them you probably also have the land (or even space inside your home) to fit one of these glycol systems which would probably be much cheaper. But, if the technology takes off enough for commercial applications, prices may come down to make them feasible for residential.
Engineer 775! Voted up.
Talk about Maintenance cost.
Nice n wow.
all new houses should be built with an effort to be off grid, its more efficient and its better not just for the homeowner but for national security. decentralization is the future.
The man's a genius. This technology is used to grow food in the middle of winter..
Peak rates MUST COME TO RESIDENTIAL. This will incentivize greater efficiency.
yeah but where do you get plastic bags to pick up after your dog?
I can't believe Richard got upset about the 'cool' pun, that guy really needs to chill out.
How long does it take for payback. Also what is the energy saving in Vermont?
0:00 Hey guys, Scarce here.
My whole house is a thermal battery. Insulate baby!