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- Is there a "right" way to pronounce it? And why is it so complicated? •
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Buck, S. 2014. 70% of People Worldwide Pronounce 'GIF' With a Hard 'G'. mashable.com/2...
O'Leary, A. (2013, May 21). An Honor for the Creator of the GIF. New York Times. Retrieved from bits.blogs.nyt...
Olsen, S. The Gif Pronunciation Page. web.archive.or...
Baio, A. 2014. ‘JIF’ Is the Format. ‘GIF’ Is the Culture. / jif-is-the-format-gif-...
McCulloch, G. 2015. Why the pronunciation of gif really can go either way. www.mentalflos...
Dow, M. 2020. It's 'gif and gif': The english lexicon goes both ways. mcdowlinguist....
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I realised after upload that I slipped up here: if you pay close attention, you can tell the way I pronounce GIF. Ah well! Also, subtitling this was an interesting job...
Gif or gif
1 month ago, tom really makes sure his content is top quality.
Why does it say your comment is 1 month old?
1 month ago
1 month ago?
It's prounced 'if'. Everyone knows that real Gs move in silence.
Like lasagna
Im dead bury me nicely
@@whatsmynameagain7774 okay
@@whatsmynameagain7774 **grabs shovel** here i go shoveling again
bravo, good sir
I read the title pronouncing it the way I do (of course) and thought "atta boy".
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Facts.
So how do you pronounce it?
I read it pronounced the opposite of how I do and was annoyed before I realized. I think it has to do with how common the way you pronounce it is in your area. I've been "corrected" a lot haha.
@@mariafe7050 GIF, with the G.
I'm more impressed that 'laser' is actually an acronym
LABSEOR
wait what
So are "radar", "sonar", and "lidar", but perhaps those aren't as surprising.
speaking of which i know it's unrelated but
fun fact: i used to not know it's spelled laser and not lazer
Wait laser is an acronym?
The funny thing is, when I speak in English, I pronounce it jif, but when I speak in my native language, Finnish, I pronounce it gif.
As a swede I do the same but might be because we don't have the English J sound in Swedish. So it would be yif instead of jif.
I just realised I do the same thing except my native language is Malay.
its so true
you absolute fool
Same for Slavic languages but I pronounce it like gif in english too
I agree, it's gif for sure
I have to disagree, it is in fact pronounced gif actually.
No no, it's gif!
Believe me it’s gif!
Nah, yall trippin dawg. It's gif.
umm actually it's gif, dumb
How to solve this: anger everyone by switching between both randomly
I do that 😂
Finally someone with sense
Wouldnt that make everyone happy as well?
@@mymo_in_Bb even better
667
most shocking things I learned today is how laser and scuba are acronyms
do you not know what acronyms mean
@@DiamondsAreForeverLOLcheeseBUR do you?
@@lightlie_ i didnt i guess
@@DiamondsAreForeverLOLcheeseBUR lmao
@@DiamondsAreForeverLOLcheeseBUR Most people don't learn that they stand for something, and just assume that they are standalone words.
"I promised Maria to get revenge"
“You’re wrong, Shadow. That image playing over and over in your head like a gif? It’s not the truth.”
@@B3nnettB It's pronounce "jiff"
Huh?
@@gamerits .GIF, like the peanut butter. The creator said so.
@@mrssmile5531 That's dumb, its Graphics Interchange Format.
This reminds me of the time Uno tried telling people how Uno was "properly" played and people just ignored it
Uno belongs to this type of game where the only real rules are the one made by the host of the game in the start.. no written rules are ever gonna be valid
“Thanks for the moving image Steve but we’ll take it from here”
Which is hilarious as Uno didn't even invited Uno. It's literally Macau but with dedicated deck instead of "normal" playing cards.
@@ludos1963 yes. When I play Macau we usually agree on which cards are action cards as it varies among people.
@@tenthyukillme2049 whats that from?
The perfect clickbait doesnt exi- -
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what are you doing here with 1 like
HII!! I love your vids!
@@mrrockystone298 no you dont lmao you just want attention from a verified creator
@@waitwhatb4 exactly
The “i” is pronounced “e”, it’s actually Jeff
Goeff
My name's Jeff
ma name jef
you mean Gef?
nah, it's geff
As someone who calls it 'G' 'I' 'F ' I call this an absolute win
I used to say the same... untill one of my friend laughed at me
@@randomgirl7672 look him in the eye and laugh back at him, establish dominance
Makes sense, I mean all three letters are capital
i started like that
@@mousahajtass9667 and its an acronym so it makes sense
"It's GIF!"
"No, it's JIF"
Me: G.I.F
The Notorious G.I.F
*“THATS WHAT I SAID”*
"Why tf are they bringing up peanut butter?"
this
same!
Now go after people who draw their "8"s with two circles.
one stoke 8 gang
I do my "8"s with two circles ;-)
@@a.henderson9559 *_BURN THE WITCH_*
@@a.henderson9559 ah no wonder
MARIA REYNOLDS
Wait, isn't that what everyone does?
As a great hedgehog once said “The P in jpeg stand for photographic but i bet you dont say jpheg”
I do
Alright I’m gonna start pronouncing it jfeg now.
But the letter P is never pronounced as an F on its own. So this example wouldn't help.
Or Lacier.
@pocklord what about laacieyer. The correct pronunciation of Laser according to you.
I read the title: "It’s pronounced GIF."
"Oh hey, so Tom is on my side"
...oh wait
Did the exact some thing.
Confirmation bias is a helluva thing!
I read it as jiff. Send help.
It’s Jiff
@@ZenYodaGuy Did you watch the video?
@@driveasandwich6734 doesn't matter. It's jif.
I can make my own rules, it's pronounced gif
no, its pronounced gif
Its pronouned gif guys
@@MixMatchedMoze no, gif
Guys, come on. It is pronounce *gif*. Now please stop arguing. :(
@@gluesniffersunite4719 no, gif
I've waited 8 years for this
I've waited 69 years for this
*i've waited my whole life*
I've waited now
Wait longer we shall
So ur wait is complete
Honestly, my take-away from this video is that "LASER" is an acronym. You learn something new everyday!
The obvious solution is to start pronouncing it "yiff" so that no one gets to be happy.
I'll just call it jaff. "i" from fire. Oh wow I really don't like the word fire.
id be happy with that
What about iif
I can see some people being happy with that xP
I swear I heard the word "yiff" from somewhere before
'It's GIF, not GIF.'
'It's LeviOsa, not LeviosA.'
r0n
every 60 seconds in africa, a minute passes.
Now I'm going to bed before one of you comes up with another clever idea to get us killed, or worse _expelled_
That's not how the quote goes, it's "it's leviOsa, not leviosAr"
@@idontcare7197 I would say LeviosAr
Just call it "tiny low res repetitive video" or tlrrv's for short.
so, tuh•lurrvs or tuh tuh•luh•ruh•ruvs
@@kwaziness tuh•lurrves
GIFs aren't necessarily tiny, low-res, or animated. The only thing that's certain is a limited color palette of 256 colors per image. Funnily enough, it's also a lossless format technically speaking.
But is that tlerv or tlur-rev?
@@ElloItsSmee nah it’s tuh•tuh•luh•ruh•ruvs ur wrong mate
“You’re a beta-male, Sonic”
The inventor of Gif: “It is pronounced Jif”
The internet: “I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it’s a stupid ass decision I have elected to ignore it.”
Decided not elected
How I felt about "cross button"
@@Fauziaazim8986 It is elected. I double checked.
@@Fauziaazim8986 elected and decided both work in that sentence.
Jif is easier to say but the internet cockblocks it
The way I remember is that there's a peanut butter brand named "Jif."
Correct it's the only peanut butter I like
The inventors used this as a way of helping people remember what the correct pronunciation was, saying "choosy developers choose gif" (a play on the peanut butter slogan, choosy moms choose jif)
Or a bleach based cleaner
Yup. I always say “gif isn’t peanut butter”
I have allergies
see my issue is that .jif is a different file extension, which is ALSO for image files, but differently composed. Pronouncing so to avoid ambiguity it makes more sense to pronounce it with a hard G
Best and actually only valid argument I've seen so far
@@steffenjensen422 Gift. Checkmate, same permutation, only one additional letter as a suffix, not a vowel.
@@robonator2945 wait until you find out about sword and word or laughter and slaughter (I'm team /g/, but comparison to gift doesn't work as an argument)
@@Cloiss_ guess what, both of your examples have letters BEFORE the premutation. Gift has it after.
This is great, but also: The letter "g" should always be hard. Otherwise, whats the point of "j"?
I am from Croatia and on my recent travels I met two Canadians who surprised me by pronouncing GIF as JIF....I was so confused. Everyone I knew said "gif".
As a Canadian, I thought Tom was trolling when he said the hard-G was way more popular. I don't know a single person under age 70 that doesn't say JIF.
Here in Israel, most people say gif, and you're considered out of touch with tech if you say jif
Makes sense since Croatian spelling is phonetic, and g refers only to "hard" g, while đ refers to "soft" g / j. Al ja sam uvik govorio đif kad sam čuo od drugih na internetu.
Everyone you know is wrong then.
@@josephwodarczyk977 that's not how that WORKS!!
We should make the G silent and pronounce it as “if”. Nobody wins, that way.
no, that way _you_ win
@@teraspeXt 😹😹 i like pronouncing it as jif, so I wouldn’t be winning either. 😆
We don't want a working compromise, we want to be right while they're wrong!
Chaotic evil
@@ABisdoingjustfine What do you call files with the .JIF file extension?
I read the title out loud and then immediately thought “Tom agrees with the way I pronounce it!”
God, I’m stupid.
Lmao dw me too
how did you pronounce it?
@@charlieo-o267 for me its pronounced with a “J” sound, (jif)
@@Mualskii I just spell it *out lmao
Tom doesn't disagree with the way you pronounce it. Or the way you pronounce GIF either.
I can't stop watching his shirt try to merge with his left arm.
the hand is part of the shirt
Now I can’t stop either
wait why are you here this isnt tf2
If the video went on any longer it would have broken the space time continuum and made a black hole
How is his shirt merging with his left arm? I don't see it.
On the point of 2:40, I literally just pronounce it like gift bc it’s literally that minus the t. I just instinctually recognized that similarity and that was that
Imagine one day the clouds part and god comes down to say only "it's pronounced jod" before leaving again
Tried renaming god in DnD with my friends to jod. Ended up becoming John
@@roreaper3551 soundds fun
It'd vindicate the Roman's actions.
every day we stray further from jod
Stole from r/askreddit
Me who always pronounces it "G - I - F" : I don't have such weaknesses.
It's an acronym, so logically that's what we all should be doing
I used to do that until my friend called it “gif”
@@miratarnish6316 That's the opposite of how acronyms work. They're acronyms BECAUSE they're supposed to be pronounceable like regular words, while abbreviations are not. Ex.: NSA vs NASA or GIF vs GSE.
just found: the strongest human on planet
Me too lmaoooo :D
it was only today when I realized SCUBA is an *acronym* and not a single word
Self contained underwater breathing apparatus my guy
I learn that for laser as well... Stupid English language.
WHAT
people struggle with that for laser
Wow
“I promised Maria to get revenge”
I've been saying it for years: There's four ways to say "pecan" and no one cares. But there are two ways to say "gif" and everyone gets angry.
Building the entire english speaking world into two armies makes for a larger conflict than splitting it into four.
That’s because if you pronounce pecan the wrong way, people will just look at you with pity.
@@Lightning-jc6re
pee-can
pee-kahn
peh-can
peh-kahn
@@Lightning-jc6re
peecan
peecon
puhcon
puhcan
Actually it's more likely to be because "pecan" pronunciations developed in regional areas and were stable before the internet, whereas "gif" pronunciations are actively developing and are being developed simultaneously everywhere.
Good news and bad news: So apparently gif was a word used in old, like really old English. The bad news, it’s pronounced “yiff”
oh no
What did it mean? Presumably wasn't used for ye olde memes.
@@annafirth6738 Just looked it up, it was apparently a type of poison. It was hard to find a definition but it does exist
@@ItIsLuna Cool, ty for getting back to me I was curious.
@@ItIsLuna that’s why some furry sites I go to say “pick your poison”
Moral of the story:
It's pronounced GIF
here before 10 likes
Here before 50 likes
I think I know this guy
Bruh no it's pronounced GIF
You have an awesome sense of humour
Bro switched to Shadow's side 💀
There's a simple answer for this, and that is avoidance of confusion. We need to be able to distinguish between the .GIF format and the .JIF format. Yes, it exists and is also an image format.
I mean these days most gifs are actually mp4s or webms.
Not that a lot of people talks about the jif format, but you are technically correct.
@@Crusader1089 gif is disappearing so this wont be an argument in 5 years. I guarantee it.
@@jordanbridges .png
@@raymondlugo9960 good luck with application support for your animated ones.
It’s actually pronounced “Jeff”. If you want to be technical, “Geoff”
Where is his hat??
Ma nems jeff
@@bimapramudya9926 mnemjeeeeff (see this guy gets it)
I pronounce Jerk Off.
Nice pfp
"The correct answer is of course, -- Studio 1." 3:00
That's how you actually pronounce GIF, according to Tom.
It's louder than I'd expect!
can you believe that when I read the title of the video I was like "ooh, he's saying it's pronounced GIF right in the title, just like that?"
there's no hope for my brain
This video in short :
"Listen, I don't have much time. GIF is pronounced as........."
@Jedem Das Seine Based? Based on what?
@@Meminjo The comment is based on the video
@@addibbaaj2 based
I once read this in a old book: “gif (pronounced ‘yiff’)”
@@kyestar88 yep. I remember around 3 months later in a random r/tihi vid where it was like: ‘good news: we have a definite say on how gif is pronounced! The bad news:’. Even if the furries won in reality both sides lost.
it's how it's pronounced in French, as in, in the dictionary... It's terrifying
Bruh
Uhhhh
No way
Oh no
no actually it's gif
DANGELO???
YOOOOOOOOOOOO DANGELOO
you're 10x cooler now
Wait... DeAngelo??
What do you mean? That's not how you spell gif...
I always knew "Jif" was a brand of peanut butter and am allergic to peanuts, so I always pronounced the filename "gif."
I'm not allergic but it's the same reasoning for me.
I just say “gajif” to piss both sides off equally
you've made enemies with us all
Why not jagif?
i pronounce it as 'Yif' to make everybody upset
@@lunarpitch finally
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People who pronounce it G.I.F be like
" I have no such weakness "
those people are cowards
Technically for them the G is a J, so they are on my side!
literally what I do
T. G. I. F
That's me
My takeaway: I'mma start saying "jpheg", "lasser", and "scubba" so my pedantry can be logically consistent!
there is no possible objection to this
Acronyms don't follow same pronunciation rules as spoken words do. Your Takeaway should be "i've been pronouncing wrong my whole life, but i'm intelligent enough to see i am wrong and change it." Famous Quote "It is easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled" ---- YOU prove this quote is very accurate
@@chrisguzek1096 Or it's a joke and you just walked the prank. And there is no "right"way to pronounce GIF that's literally the main takeaway of the video you're commenting on, grug moment.
I support this plan. An excellent takeaway
@@chrisguzek1096 did you even watch the video? 0:35... there are no rules for pronunciation.
For me there's been many words that I have read long before I heard them, and got completely wrong, like awry (thought it was pronounced aw-ree), and my girlfriend, who is also not a native English speaker, used to pronounce awesome as a-wee-some :D
I made the same mistake with awry. Also, it took me a long time to realise that the suffix "-able" isn't at all pronounced like the word "able" so I would pronounce them like "despic-ay-ble" and so on
Same, regarding "awry"
Other languages: Just pick one!
English language: No, I don’t think I will.
Das Nutella or Die Nutella?
German has that problem too.
@Mister Proton Immer diese Deutschen, es ist doch ganz klar Die Nutella, ganz einfach da es ein Wort bestehen aus Nut für englisch Nuss und -ella für die weibliche italienische Verkleinerungsform ist.
Es ist auch das Teller und die Butter. Change my Austrian grammer habits
@Mister Proton Joa, würde ich schon sagen, also so in normalen Sprachgebrauch, beim Schreiben eines Textes weiche ich meistens auf der Teller aus.
On Gif we have the same problem in French, actually. Between [gif] and [ʒif]
It had an official pronunciation, but people decided to say it wrong and now it’s considered to have two pronunciations
I did my own study about this where I looked up every single morpheme word that started with , specifically looking at /ɪ/ as well, and i got some interesting results. The words that used /g/ tended to be words from germanic origin, and the words that used /ʤ/ tended to come from French or Latin based words. I can't conclude anything from that, but it was just an interesting tidbit that i decided to share.
Yes, in romance languages there's a difference between GA/GO/GU and GI/GE (same for C structures). For instance, in italian it's ga/go/gu and ʤi/ʤe, etc. Interestingly, although this grammar rule is solid and unbreakable, my native language is italian and I studied three more romance languages...I still pronounce gif as /g/!
Thats really unique! I just did googling. Graphics is a Latin word from Greek origin. So pronouncing GIF with /ʤ/ is not really wrong either!
Damn... I even surprised myself with this.
another reason to use /g/
(i don't like french)
That's because Romance languages went through palatalization (softening of k and g before a front vowel), while English, which is Germanic, did not.
Interesting tidbits aside, which video is your profile pic from? I know it's a classic but I can't for the life of me remember the title of it
At least we don't have people saying "it's pronounced yif"
My friend says yif
@@xxslayer255xx I'd say "oh no" but I like their taste
Lucky thre is no yiff image format
Yiff
zyif
I don't think people would be nearly as passionate about this debate if Jif wasn't already a peanut butter.
Contextually it's much harder to confuse the soft-G GIF with the peanut butter than it is to confuse the hard-G GIF with "gift" (as in, "I sent Tom Scott a GIF last week").
The strongest argument I've heard is that soft-G removes ambiguity for the listener, similar to how the NATO phonetic alphabet (alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, etc.) uses deliberately chosen words that sound dissimilar to each other to prevent them being misheard/confused over spotty radio connections.
I am very happy to be German.
We never had that discussion.
We only know the hard G like in the term "global invasion"
'Gift'
German has different pronunciation of the G in "Genie" and "genial". Danish has the same weirdness with a french G in the noun and a hard G in the adjective.
Génie is a french word. Same with "Garage", where the second g is spoken "J". We use these so called gallicisms, you can see a list on wikipedia.
Usually a G is a hard G for us, like in "Das Gift" too btw.
@@quantessenz same for gin since we got that word from english (though I think some people call it Gin with a hard g, not the majority though)
Your comment is clearly genetically superior and it deserves more recognition.
Most languages: GIF
English: I'm confused...
Italian: Hey! Jif over here!
i'm italian and even before learning english i said 'ghif/gif'
@@matteomagurno3068 then you must be part of the 0.1% of the Italian population that says "ghif"
Spanish: Hif
@@RickZanardi Actually, I have never heard someone say 'jif', it's always 'ghif' because that's how we think it's pronunciated in english
As an italian, I never heard anyone pronounce it JIF, in fact, I didnt even knew it was an argument until I started to learn english. Btw, im from the nord, so I dont know if in south italy they pronounce it JIF
I would accept either pronunciation. It is going to be trivial.
Wait, can we just talk about the existence of Gillingham and Gillingham, two towns in the same country that are spelled the same but pronounced differently?
Interesting!
Didn't know about that!
“You can copy my homework but change it up so the teacher won’t know”
It’s the same I’d behind the word 2. If I said 2 in a conversation and asked you 2 guess which version I meant technically you’d always be wrong when I refused to say the answer.
Sure but it's still not as ridiculous as Kansas and Arkansas
theres more than i have the same thing near me :,)
Were English phonetically consistent, this wouldn’t be a problem
@@Lunarfox for pronunciation, spanish has very consistent rules
@@ajc1476 Wrong. Spanish grammar isn't even consistent between two neighboring countries. A consistent language would be Esperanto (a failure) or Sanskrit (nobody speaks anymore).
@@roseCatcher_ sanskrit is still spoken and technically a living language, its judt extremely rare.
@@Lunarfox what is constructed languages? Isn't every language made by us(I am not gonna google it)
@@Lunarfox Greek is. You can learn to read every greek word in less than a day. Every letter has one sound and sounds the same no matter what. There are some rules here and there that mix things up but there are clear symbols in each word to show how it is pronounced.
Spelling on the other hand is more complicated, but as far as how each word sounds there is not a single controversial word in Greek.
I once read that the "g" is pronounced like the "g" in "garage"
This is so underrated
this is an interesting joke bc i think it truly depends on what english dialect you speak! in mine, the second "g" in garage is actually a slightly different consonant than the one in question for the gif debate, /ʒ/ instead of /dʒ/ (the one in the video), but i think british english might pronounce it as /dʒ/
English people pronounce garage as garridge though.
The creator though...
Jarage
I pronounced it Jiff naturally. Now I try to avoid conversations where that word might appear. If I have to, I say Giff because it's the Giff people who like to start an argument about it.
If someone is saying the word gif to me then I probably don't want to be a part of that conversation
I say it like jiff as well by instinct. we're automatically seen as weird little contrarians if we pronounce it that way so I also have been shamed into silence and try to say it with a hard G as often as possible 😞Im tired of hearing the peanut butter joke
It’s the exact opposite for me . The jif people start complaining and start the argument
guys wtf you people are all wrong it’s obviously pronounced “dërfüytł”
o-o
It's pronounced đģiůłīœųýķc
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Underrated
This debate's never going to end
Let's just gif up
I think you mean "jif up".
I see what you did there 👀
Don’t you mean never gonna Jif you up
If you’re from the UK and of a certain age; gif is a file format, jif is a cleaning product.
Never gonna gif you up
When you guys say “jif” I just think of peanut butter.
Choosy moms choose GIF
If anything thats a plus
Jeez
i thought jif was a toilet cleaner. stranegly i think i still pronunce gif jif. i actually dont know anymore though.
Same
People that say Jif going to heaven and calling god "Jod" immediately getting sent to hell
Tom don't reignite the debate.
The cycle cannot repeat itself
the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning
It's a cycle that's what they do
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The only bigger debate online is how old does Tom look
It can too! It's pronounced gif!
It's pronounced "I" because my GF is nonexistent
UNDERRATED tf
ACTUALLY UNDERRATED
it be like that sometimes
This comment is pure genius
Is the "I" pronounced as "I" or "I"?
English-speakers: ugh... is it /gif/ or /jif/
Ukrainians: 'HIFKA'
Exactly!
To quote Frasier, "Oh, yes, Niles, that's just what we need, a fourth language!" I do wonder how many other pronunciation of that 'g' are there, though, across the world.
I haven't heard any English speakers calling it /jif/, as yiff is something else. However, they do agure about calling it /dʒif/.
@@Liggliluff ты душный (you are boring)
@@vovkaputka if someone uses / / then they are trying to use IPA so there is an exact way to write it, and /j/ = y, /dʒ/ = j (in juice)
well / / is meant to be less specific than [ ] but it would never make /j/ mean [dʒ]
Woah, so THAT'S where Shadow and Sonic got their information.
Jif is a peanut butter brand, and it feels weird to me to call gifs the same pronunciation as that so I use the g sound.
It's also spelled differently.
@@zapdara Yes, but it's pronounced the same way as GIF, if pronounced like a "j" rather than a "g" so it's just easier for me.
Except it was intentionally named after the peanut butter
@@naverilllang not sure if this is true but it wouldn't make sense as it is an acronym that actually makes sense
I find it weird to call a GIF close to the word "gift," so I am and always will call it jiff.
I just asked my google home. It answered with a hard g. And Joojle knows everything.
This is a good comment 👍
@@joshuhigashikata9201 ges
it's pronounced jif not gif
😏
I'm tired of this gif-gif polarization. We need more an independent gif.
Well APNG and WebP are much much better than gifs in terms of compression.
It's called WEBM.
gee eye eff
@@HarryRobins WebP is cancer, png is king
POV: you have said Jif ur entire life but just now finding out that people said gif
"We will have flying cars in the future."
Humans 2020: ITS GIF NOT DJIFF
it's like the debate with feathers on dinosaurs but worse!(kinda)
Thumbnail: d3if
Someone should just make a file type called .jif so people have to use a hard G for .gif
My dad taught me to pronounce it with a /x/ sound, like most words in my native language (Dutch). This whole debate has always felt like people arguing over Pepsi vs. Coke, while being a Dr Pepper guy.
Is /x/ een harde of zachte g?
"/x if/" sounds west-flemish or gents? in Antwerp (flemish dutch/ ABN) we say gif /ɣif/ (ironically enough the symbol for a voiced velar fricative looks like a y haha).
Growing up in Norway, I called it Gif, with a hard G. I then moved to the Netherlands for 8 years... I'm glad I never had to have this discussion in Dutch. :D
So uh, where does Dr. Pepper being a Coke brand come into this?
ik zei het altijd op z'n engels
Okay, didn’t know that “laser” and “scuba” were acronyms lmao
Everything's an acronym if you try hard enough
@@switchblade6 jacksfilms moment
The more you learn
I knew laser from Theodd1sout but not scuba
@@blokvader8283 I knew scuba but not laser
Just so long as no-one starts saying ‘jigabyte’
There are three endings to this story;
Good:we live in a democracy and the people say “gif”
Neutral:the maker of it chose “jif”
Bad:historically it was pronounced “yiff”
sorry but the rankings actually go
good: yiff
neutral: gif
bad: jiff
@@ameteuraspirant no
didn't ask
@@ameteuraspirant *furry detected*
@@ameteuraspirant no, i disagree because your answer scares me and i want to act like it doesn't exist
Good: Giff
Neutral: Yiff
Bad: Jiff, since .JIF exists
"It's a victory for the yiffers"
God Tom, you have no idea what you just said there
The yiff party is strong in us
yep lmfao
oh yes
No the fur, it's everywhere
yes yes yes yes YES
Let’s just call it a GIF!
Did you mean GIF?
GIF?
No, it’s definitely GIF!
I usually say g i f
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
I love how he pronounces gif with 43 syllables at the end (I counted)
gif is pronounced My co-author Gretchen McCulloch has a great podcast called Linguthusiasm-
Up next: Tom Scott dissects the hotdog sandwich debate.
Andrew Lang gotta mention the three sided sandwich somewhere in there
Go see Mythical Chef Josh for that one
LegalEagle has a great vid on this too. [Edit: Oh...maybe I meant Food Theory...either way both channels are worth checking out 🤷♀️]
Food Theory did an episode on it as well
@@DS-xy7bu A three-sided sandwich is a taco. A hotdog is a taco.
My logic is that JIF is a peanut butter, GIF is better to make it less confusing.
JIF is definitely a peanut butter
Between that and the fact that to clarify you are pronouncing it with a soft g you have to respell it as JIF instead of the original spelling, I’d say it’s definitely GIF.
Or, if you just cannot be bothered with starting that argument with someone, you can say it’s pronounce like the ‘g’ in “garage”
@@sirbaconbuster I agree
@@sirbaconbuster There are two 'g's in garage and they both sound different, just proving the fact that g(and just about every letter in the English alphabet) have such little consistency in how they're pronounced.
@ItsAnimeDealWithIt Welcome to the joke.
I hope someone sends that dude a nice Christmas Jift.
In a giffy!
@@KalonOrdona2 The word is Jiffy
@@SuperSMT That's a woosh right there.
@@FuraFaolox Never has a person been whooshed as hard as that poor soul.
gift ends with a hard consonant that's why the G is also hard. do you like Gihraffes?
I'll call it "Graphics Interchange Format".
It's so funny watching this being from a country where everyone says GIF
How do they pronounce it, gif or gif
гифка
@@ZTheMoki gif
You monster
Here we say Gif with a dutch G
"the correct answer is of course *crash*"
I admire your impartiality while at the same time calling you "chicken" for not giving us the answer you came to.
I think Tom uses the hard G, based off of 2:30
@@haysdixon6227 also 1:14
Well, there is no "the answer", that's the whole point (obviously)
I'm gonna start calling it "Graphics Interchange Format"
So it's GIF then, Graphics doesn't start with the "j" sound
@@gaminglegend I am confused wether that was a joke or not
@@kotakotik22 Up to interpretation
Jraphics Interchange Format
@@gbcv4655 See? It doesn't make sense
In German we only have one pronounciation.
Ist auch gut so.
Just like your beloved Fuhrer would want it to be.
"Hi, so I invented this word and here's how to pronounce it"
the internet: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that"
I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that because the council has made a decision but due to it being a dumbass decision I have decided to ignore it.
GIF, hard G, don't care didn't ask plus you obviously say GIF like JIF
@@gravitonnedissapointment1820 wahhh
G stands for graphics so
@@gravitonnedissapointment1820 cope and seethe Jravitonne
there’s a reason your username has disappointment in it
@@ezicagent2724 how about you watch the video
“Creator of gif says it’s pronounced jif”
I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that its a stupid ass decision, I’ve elected to ignore it
I understood that reference😃
Sam L Jackson the GOAT
Facts
@Figgy Newton I came to the same conclusion after je posted the misspelled slide
I love democracy
the fact that Tom could easily have this be a 10 second video of him going "it doesn't really matter, people will pronounce it differently and it will be correct" and be done with it, but goes on to explain language is nice
Similar to how one pluralizes 'Octopus'
It's about knowledge, those who know that GIF stands for "graphics interchange format" will use [gif] (same [g] as in graphics), those who don't know will use [d3] (in English as in many European languages, [g], [c] before [e], [i], [y] usually changes its pronunciation).
1:12
Shawn: [Yawns and opens a GIF]
Shaun: [Yauns and opens a JIF]
Sean: [Yeans and opens a YIFF]
Shawn: I saw that
Shaun I sau that
Sean: I sea that
Sean is a furry
yiff you say? 👀
Sean is indeed a furry
Sean: reject humanity become letex furry
I’ve always liked the proposed pronunciation ‘yif’. It pisses everyone off and gets some very fun reactions out of those individuals who have been exposed to certain parts of the internet.
Don’t
Like that ^
Spell jif not yif because that's furry porn
@@artifex2.080 thats the joke
@@artifex2.080 That's the joke, and it's a glorious one. I shall be calling the format "Yif" from hence forth.
I had the same idea: downloaded an English word list, did some basic stemming to coalesce "gill" with "gills" etc. and categorised all the words starting with "gi-" into hard and soft G - it was an exact tie with the same number on each side. I took that as a sign the universe doesn't care about how you pronounce it.
The true answer is to pronounce it the opposite way from the people around you in the moment just to make them angry
My friends who dress up in animal costumes pronounce is as “yif”
OHMYgod
Same.
no.
C E A S E
Among my roomates we argue if the g takes on the 'gna' sound of lasagna, or 'age' sound of garage