The Battery Inside Out
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- What is a battery? How were they invented? How does a modern battery work? How to make batteries sustainable? Our panel of experts takes a deep dive into the world of batteries.
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Serena Corr is Professor and Chair in Functional Nanomaterials at the University of Sheffield, as a joint appointment between the Departments of Chemical and Biological Engineering and Materials Science and Engineering. Her research focuses on the design, synthesis and characterization of functional nanomaterials in particular for applications in energy storage, with an emphasis on understanding their intimate structure-property interplay.
Simon Moores is Managing Director of Benchmark Mineral Intelligence, a price assessment and market advisory company for lithium ion batteries and energy storage supply chains.
David Greenwood leads the Advanced Propulsion Systems team at WMG which covers a wide remit of related areas within Energy Storage (Battery Systems); Energy Conversion (Electric Machines; Power Electronics); and Energy Management.
Judith Richardson is Global Purchasing Director, Electrical Propulsion, at Jaguar Land Rover.
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End of this video is terrible (from 40 mins). How better to show how silent an EV is than to show a Jag screaming around a track with music blaring and constant Clarksonesque close-ups of the wheels, logo and track? That ruined it
Agreed
Why on earth did the i-pace video that purported to show what an electrical vehicle is like have noise of a combustion engine mixed into it?
They think we stupid as Trump.
IPace
The noise in the iPace can be switched off. It was introduced for those drivers who don't like how quiet EVs are. They are not the only ones! BMWs i8 although hybrid has a piped in audio of a V8 engine. The noise in the iPace is an audio track not of an engine sound but a track to indicate speed and acceleration.
Great presentation until the Jaguar ad at the end.
The whole thing was a Tesla ad.
@@00BillyTorontoBill There is a difference between talking about the company that triggered the current scale of the industry, and how that happened, and playing a pure advertisement with no (presentation) purpose and no comments.
If they spent 10 minutes talking about how Jaguar is building those new mega factories, that would have been a presentation. Playing that ad was a plain marketing gig.
@@zoltanposfai3451 I think you meant to say after watching that ad Tesla is in big trouble.
*Hans Zimmer score intensifies*
@@TheReferrer72 a year later is the ipace still made ?
I had to pause for a moment when we saw the little picture of Faraday lecturing at RI.
That’s some palpable history.
Mind=blown
The sneaky Jaguar ad was pretty cringe
She’s hard to listen to
I agree Brandon. I can't recall seeing a commercial like that played previously during such a lecture. The worst part is that she just walked away from it, metaphorically speaking. One of the previous speakers played a video, but narrated the video himself. The video was just another visual in his presentation. She just played the video, which contained no real information, and expected applause perhaps? She made the classic mistake of not tailoring her presentation to the audience she was addressing. It was almost as if it was a presentation that she had previously gave at a sales or stockholders meeting, only without the financials. Bummer...
Its the RI. Jaguar just happen to be a British company who have made a commitment to EV technology. They showed Tesla and mentioned Nissan! They wanted to bring in a company whom has experience. Would you have complained had Mati Rimac had done the lecture, or Elon Musk?
Spoiler alert! (for those who do read through the comments before watching the video)
:-)
@@user-ss5rl1zf7g There was nothing confrontational about Steve's response, not even a little.
Loved most of the talk, I was intrigued by the whole discussion of supply chain and manufacturing, but I gave this a thumbs down for playing a Jaguar advert in an RI lecture.
As the coal and oil is replaced the car becomes more green. While the ICE car remains the same for its entire life.
The many of the pollutants are moved from the moving vehicle to fixed production locations, like power plants, and and production mines and factories so they are easer to mange. So the streets of our cities will be nicer.
So there is no point in waiting for green power, but it would be a good idea not to add coal or oil production. So planning and regulating to that all replacement and additional generation is green would be a good plan.
@@DidivsIvlianvs Electrical energy storage is paramount to using renewable sources, however from what I read Lithium Ion tech cannot reasonably meet such requirements . I read about liquid metal batteries and other devices (thermic not chemical ) you got any expertise in the field ?
@@DidivsIvlianvs Even when the electricity comes from oil and gas, the power station is about twice as efficient as a diesel engine in converting carbon fuel to energy and so the electric car produces less CO2 than a diesel or petrol. The difference is larger when the diesel is not running in its optimum range. Petrol (gasoline) engines are even worse in this respect. Add to this, the higher energy efficiency in a town cycle due to the regeneration and we see that EVs are not all lies.....
@@jeremygreenwood8501 What you've said isn't true. Conventional steam powered electrical generation runs at around 35% efficiency (gas fired combined cycle can get to 60%) , then you have to transport the electricity knock off another 5% then conversion to and from chemical energy in the battery 85% each way (ish?) so 73% just in that process you're down to around 25% for burning oil/coal and getting it onto the road. A well designed diesel engine can achieve over 40% efficiency without too much trying.
@@salerio61
Sure, and diesel/gasoline magically appears in the tanks of cars.
And claiming steam powered electrical generations is running at 35% efficiency, but diesel engines at 40% is a straight up lie to mislead. No country is producing electricity purely from fossil fuels btw. so the mix is already cleaner than for ICE cars.
You are also ignoring the fact that just getting the millions of small dirty engines out from under people's noses has huge benefits.
It went really well until it turned into a Jaguar sales pitch.
This is radically unlike in the US, where these presentations are always a Tesla sales pitch. (Although they mention Tesla enough in this one too.)
To be fair, the Royal Institution (not the Royal Society) was never strictly intellectual and academic. It was founded by manufacturers in its era so that there would be enough new science and scientists for the anticipated technological industries of the future. They just succeeded wildly beyond all expectations, with charismatic presenters (who also turned out to be great scientists) like Humphrey Davy, Michael Faraday, etc.
@@DidivsIvlianvs I'm buying 100% renewable energy (mostly wind, some hydro when the wind isn't blowing). The same goes for a lot of other places around the world. Even in a place with 100% coal power, an EV does eventually catch up on emissions, because power plants and EVs are much more efficient than a dino juice burner.
@@DidivsIvlianvs Very few places still have 100% coal/oil powered grid. What's the cutoff when it's no longer a lie? 20% clean? 40%? 60%? 80%? 100%? While you own your electric car the electric grid will get cleaner and cleaner.
Clearly you do not realise just how much electricity is used to produce petrol or diesel. About 30kWh per US Gallon which would drive a Tesla the same distance that 1Gal of petrol would an ICE car. The UK has generated all of it's electricity for a couple of weeks at least lately without having to burn any coal. That trend is only going to improve as we build more wind turbines and solar PV. If the US and other countries did the same the whole world could easily be running on renewable energy which once the infrastructure is in place will cost significantly less than coal, nuclear or gas powered plants.
@@DidivsIvlianvs EVs by themselves also provide a strong drive to transform the grid towards clean energy sources. Many EV owners actually install solar panels to power their cars (about 30%). It takes time for something as huge as the national grid to go through a full transformation but it will happen. Meanwhile EVs produce much less CO2 over their entire lifetime and will only get better. Don't fight it
The Jaguar ad did not add anything to the lecture.
@Stefan KRAFT Nothing is free.
@@mariusvanc True, just this month I had to pay 15% extra for my solar rays, prolly i should cancel my subscription and just live with electric light.
> says EVs are very quiet
> plays video with super loud motor noises
who let the marketing lady on this?
Was thinking the same thing as I stopped the video...
I agree. This was supposed to be a presentation on battery systems, not a Jaguar marketing opportunity. It would have been better to drop the last speaker and replace with someone who could say something about near future battery technology.
I thought we would hear silence as well, instead we get vroom vroom marketing noises? What's making that fake engine sound, speakers?
Exact comment I was going to make. Informative video, but that was "silence and sense of peace" only by Michael Bay standards. Good lord.
They're required by law to add sound to electric cars, while driving under a certain speed. That's why they added the fake engine noises.
The section on battery origins was slightly inaccurate, but simplified for the audience, the section on supply chain and futures, really interesting. Then the Jaguar piece... Oh dear..... Sales pitch by a marketing person who hadn't been briefed effectively, 90kw battery mentioned at least twice? Surely she should know the difference between power and energy storage capacity. Then the sales video, obviously designed to show the iPace is capable of fast acceleration etc. But engine sounds dubbed over ?? "Here's a video to show you what it's like to drive an EV", screeching tyres and engine noise, that's not really what EVs are about. RI, you are much, much better than the trash at the end of this lecture... Judith, you were there as a representative of the future and you chose to do a sales pitch, you damaged your brand with this drivel, instead of promoting EVs and Jaguars role in transition. What a shame.
Same here, Just a hard sales pitch with misinformation
Stuff like this is why TH-cam is a good thing.
Yes to show Just a hard sales pitch with misinformation
It was all an advert for an jaguar!
Well that was lame, at about 42:00 they we're commenting how quiet EV's are and then played dramatic music over the top of an accelerating EV. How lame!
As someone trying to better understand where batteries are now in terms of capacity, and where they are going. What are we doing to make batteries more viable in terms of capacity. So much of this presentation leaves me with the thought "why do I care about this?" Why do I care about how big the factories are? What does that do? Why are you giving me this info?
Lectures like this is why I surf the net.
@@DidivsIvlianvs hook up a solar panel to your lithium battery, and now your pumping oil into your gas tank :)
From what I was taught, Galvani noticed the reaction of a frog's leg when in contact with two dissimilar metals, not when wired up to a lightning conductor. Benjamin Franklin was associated with the invention of the lightning conductor while Alessandro Volta replaced the Galvani's frog leg with brine-soaked paper to create a voltage source.
Same here, Just a hard sales pitch with misinformation.
I learned the same, but I learned it from Jim Al Khalil so who know?
When I thought "lightning through a frog leg?", I pictured a leg exploding into millions of pieces...
Showing a picture of Faraday in your presentation is the free space on Royal Institution bingo.
I am envious of a nation that can openly discuss and pursue industrial policy, with resources allocated to capability.
Serena Corr is an amazing speaker .. and gorgeous =)
Hey RI
so many comments on Juguar sales ad that ruined the whole presentation, do you see that!
Im damned addicted to these RI vids....
[Update... Ummm how did Jaguar manage to use the RI as an advertising platform?]
they said it at the beginning; it was a sponsored lecture
Very interesting. Shame the person from Jaguar missed the point of the lecture, we didn't want a sale pitch. I, like the rest of the audience I suspect, don't really care how fast it goes but I do care if it's a good all round car that can replace my ICE for day to day use.
The Jaguar clip is a terrible example of the electric car experience. Accelerating an electric car feels like being pushed forward by a force outside the car. Acceleration is silent and effortless. Adding engine sounds to an electric car is like putting flappers on bicycle spokes.
Same here, Just a hard sales pitch with misinformation
As ever, a great, insightful lecture. Well presented and well done to all...........We really didn't need the Jaguar promo towards the end.
Same here, Just a hard sales pitch with misinformation
...."and when lightning struck that rod, the leg moved" .....what?!
I know, right? What an embarrassment for this historic venue! (Actually Galvani DID do an experiment with a kite and a potential on a salted wet string, but he already had observed stimulated movement due to accidental contact with an iron railing and then other wet metallic arrangements, so he was just confirming that lightning was likely capable of similar effects. Ben Franklin's published kite experiment had everyone connecting dots on electric theory... but frog+ lightning? HELL no.)
Great, a Jaguar commercial.
didn't want them to use a mini cooper did ya? Besides, maybe it was because of the award they got using the jag? Not 1000% on that part, I know someone gave them an award for the best EV, It was said rite after the jag video,, I just put the two together,
@@plhebel1 They won "Car of the year", beating all of the dino juice burners.
@@jmonsted // Cleaver, Dino juice burners,, It's original, never heard it before,, You make it up? hell you may have coined a new phase as the market is barely open with EV's
The arrows seem to be reversed in the slideshow at 11:13 this is having me quite turned around here and anxious. Or am I loosing it? Enjoyable lecture though and details that I had not considered regarding the tech and manufacturing process. Charging is definitely Li+ intercalation into the graphite lattice. Please put an annotation there to correct this.
8:47 The bottom of the coin cell is the (positive) cathode, the top is the (negative) anode. The picture seems to suggest otherwise... SCNR ;-)
Only read the comments to see this...Thanks!
There is further confusion with this slide also. Charge/discharge arrows are reversed. maybe its a double error that explains the process or making of the error.
This is my favorite thing on the internet.
What about that stuff that sounded like music? When I drove a Tesla it didn't make any of that music noise from either the battery nor the motor. My experience was quiet.
@Simon Moores
What exactly are "battery arms"?!
This lady's voice is great. I could listen to her teach me anything.
A question worth asking: Will lithium dominate energy storage, starting in the very near future, and for the foreseeable future? For EVs, certainly it's going to be very hard to depose it from the top spot, on account of basic chemistry-its atomic weight, and the nature of its chemical bonds. Elements and electrolytes may change, but lithium is probably here for a very long stay. OTOH for stationary storage, that's not so obviously the case, since size and weight are not so important, and other possible materials may be cheaper. But then a third factor is V2G, and if that really gets big, lithium may re-assert its size and weight virtues. Until now, pumped hydro has ruled, but that appears ripe for total disruption.
I don't think the RI needs to have ads in their talks...
Where's the desk?
I just watched the Q&A and they had all 6 speakers out on the floor. Just moved it, I'm sure. Bullet successfully dodged! I would love to see that desk in person. That desk had been used by some other most gifted minds in the world and steadily been at the forefront of science and discovery for decades! I just want to touch it 👉😁
The desk is saved for science, not advertising.
Thank you for this video!
A very weird mistake "The Four Horseman" )) 22:50. If there were four then they should have been called Horsemen.
Jaguar marketing bomb - inside a Trojan Horse disguised as a science ... TED Talk ... like kind of delivery vehicle. (Pun intended)
Jaguar would be better off by simply and PROUDLY presenting Jaguar's pursuit of superior battery science. Why do they feel like they have to sneak it in.
This feels like a time share presentation.
The "driving" movie blows on several levels, jettison that bit.
Fabulous - topic right up my street.
Wow! The second speaker's data is already way out of date, only 2 years later, in 2021. Watch what else happens by 2025, and this whole video will be an antique.
Wtf is up with all the ad haters? the RI needs money just like any other institution, this video clearly states that there is a paid promotion and it's at the end of the video, you can simply not watch the end. There's nothing wrong with running ads in a scientific or educational environment, as long as it doesn't interfere with their activities. If anything, the money they will get from this will help fund further lectures and spread of information.
Thank you!
Funny she should mention Mary Shelley instead of Mary Poppins because she’s only missing the hat and umbrella.😂
Did one of the presenters say that a Li ion was a similar size to a Ni ion ? How can that be ? A Ni ion has nearly 10 times the number of protons, let alone the neutrons. Why can't Na or K ions be used in place of Li ?
Do they use series and parrelle switching in electric cars?
"90 kW battery" @ 40:27 and 43:35 I would expect you to know the difference between kW and kWh as Purchasing Director for electrification at Jaguar
Who invited a commercial representative to play a promotion video of several minutes at the RI?
The loud noise of an EV car that is supposed to be quiet woke me up. Too bad. No sleep inducement on this one.
To correct a 'silly', you can make a frog's legs twitch with a voltaic pile. It doesn't need a lightning strike.
And it was not a lightning strike that was used on the frog's legs. It was two different metals, the frog's legs acting as electrolyte.
Got a couple of articles in old Popular mechanic magazines, where someone discovers how to make really good batteries, sustainable out of non toxic chemicals, like the rechargeable glass battery back in the 80's. then.. "crickets" as the technology is bought up and with held from the public domain, so everyone is kept on batteries like addicts, more and more devices and hobbies that need them. do you know what recharges those tiny batteries in those implantable chips? body heat changes.. what is going to be even more interesting with those tiny lithium based batteries in those implantable chips.. is what happens when they get hit with an EMP.. and the batteries explode or leak.. in the body..
Leslie - where are the Popular Mechanics articles on glass batteries found ? I would like to read them as I'm interested in battery technology have an Electronics background and worked on off-grid Dc storage systems. - Thanks.
You're right about EMP ( the Russians have an EMP bomb already ). Lithiums also catch fire, are toxic to the environment, explode with short circuits in serious car accidents and need special licenses to transport, plus are not as abuse-friendly as Nickel-Iron Alkaline Batteries that Thomas Edison developed in 1890 for electric cars back then; - but was pushed out of production by Henry Ford's petrol vehicles. Nickel-Irons last 80 years. Lithium maybe 7-10 for safe reliable operation and cost about the same per KW.
Just a hard sales pitch with misinformation
The energy can be transform,not only create.That was most important words.
Why is everyone going off about Cobalt and child labor now? That wasn't a concern when Cobalt was a vital resource for the first color TVs
At 28:45 , Tesla plans to now skip this step due to the technology they bought from Maxwell. Instead of a wet process they will electrically charge the foil and also charged the powder thus making them stick together, a bit like powder coating.
In about 10 to 15 years we'll need to be able to recycle these batteries at the same rate otherwise this is not going to be sustainable for very long. We need to be able to recover all the precious materials which have gone into them. I hope they clearly identify the chemistry on the packs so they know what materials can be recovered. Materials like Cobalt may not be present in some packs and breakthroughs in battery chemistry may demand new chemical materials to be recovered. This could quickly escalate to a recovery nightmare.
Same here, Just a hard sales pitch with misinformation
Very true... I don't have a good feeling about the future of EVs ... Plus ICEs are becoming VERY efficient and clean running as of late. You could practically put your mouth on the tailpipe of a new Honda. DISCLAIMER!! DON'T TRY THAT!! lol ...just a "figure of speech"! ...and power output/mpgs are getting really good!
Genuinely one of the best lectures I've seen from TRI, brilliant stuff.
from what you've seen, yeah
Wow; (begining) I was just thinking that she reminds me of Julie Andrews in 'The Sound of Music'
What I came to see : Whats going inside battery, History and Development of batteries
What I see : "Tesla is Booming"
(Definitely not an Ri Style video)
Excellent.
I can only imagine how high humanity will reach once we find better ways to store excess power; especially solar.
I think we'll go further still when we find better ways of extracting the renewable energy around us, imagine solar tech so efficient that electric vehicles and buildings can run off it indefinitely during daylight hours
2:00 Not to mention the tasty lunch.
Is there no environmental impact of mining so much material?
The whole frame of that car is filled with batteries. In 4-10 years the only way to replace the packs involves lifting the whole body off the frame. Seriously?
Is it Serena Corr or Carr as it says in the description?
Google says Corr.
Why don't you mention the amount of water needed in lithium mining/processing
Posting negatively in the comment section is rare for me, but eh:
How much money would the Royal Institution get for hosting a bunch of marketeers in this 'lecture' ?
Reading the title i was expecting to go deep down the rabbit hole of chemical energy storage, but this is just an advert of how to get more people into EV's.
The title should be 'The Lithium Battery Inside Out' or 'The Lithium Battery Inside Your EV' .
Pronouncing Voltaic as Voltic..... mmmmhh , is that a side effect of having electrolyte for breakfast every day ?
And why am I hearing ICE sounds in that Jaguar commercial ? Is that Royal Indoctrination ?
mmm... so so lucky that one Mr Cussen there somewhere
I want to know what the plan is when we run out of lithium. You can only mine so much in the Earth's crust and then no more is left to mine. What alternative materials are being researched for purposes of longevity of the technology. Then there's the question of what will be used to generate the power in the first place. We have a lot of work ahead of us still.
In principle, the lithium in batteries should be endlessly recyclable. We just haven't quite figured out how yet.
@@jmonsted we've figured it out from a technical standpoint. It's just still too expensive and thus not economical enough to populate this niche in the economy. But i'm confident it will be sooner than later
Good point
Lol what is up with the guy on the stairs - He looks like he is HATING this
Not a single word about safety, or the dangers of packing huge amounts of energy into a battery.
Have we all forgotten about the Samsung Note 8, or what happened when Richard Hammond crashed an EV on 'Grand Tour'?
It burnt for almost 24 hours.
This is a commercial and should be removed from RI's pages imo.
Not meaning to be that guy but you do realise we produce 1.5B phones per year and maybe a couple of hundred Note's caught fire, you're much more likely to be struck by lightening. Sure Hammonds car caught fire when he crashed it but have you seen a regular ICE car crash, they don't send the firemen along for a fun afternoon out. If you want a lot of energy in a small space you're going to need to accept there's some risk to that.
I would add that due to the inefficiency of an ICE (~30% compared to over 90% for an EV), you have to pack waaaaay more energy into an ICE car to go the same distance. I'd rather a slow burning car to extinguish inconveniently, than an explosion which kills bystanders...
A frog was tied to a lightning rod. Lightning struck said rod...and all that happened was the frogs leg moved? HIGHLY incorrect. Said frog was vaporized.
In a way you are correct, She is Not, Pretty sure that Benjamin Franklin stored His lightning in A LEYDEN Jar, he conducted Most of his experiments in the
company of his son William, whom he fought with in the French/indian wars,
and always preferred his frog legs baked lightly , Not Fried!
@@epasko5713 She was not talking about Franklin...
No lightning rod involved, only two metals, and the frog legs providing both the electrolyte and the motor. It was during a storm, though, which made the frog legs hung on a wire swing and touch the other metal. That in turn made Galvani believe that lightning electricity was the cause.
Well Duracells and Energizers spew their insides out!!
A battery is both 25% and 50% the cost of an electric vehicle.
It's Schrödinger's battery.
You've spelt her name wrong it's Corr not Carr!
We did, fixed now!
90kwh battery pack =238 mi? seems a bit inefficient to me.
@kirk mcloren the lowly e-niro 64 kwh battery pack and a range of 239 mi.
The IPace is a bloated Pig.
@@cawfeedawg drive one and then say that!
The manufacturers of vehicles should be responsible for their recycling. Will the battery factories include recycling facilities ?
On the flip side we don't have the charging infrastructure or grid capacity for E V ' s !
I could listen to her until the electrons stopped cold.
If we are to have truly usable EV then we need to get away from the outdated, inefficient, and environmentally damaging lithium ion battery. Energy storage technology is holding us back from everything. Lithium ion batteries barely cut it, and energy storage tech advances soooo slowly.
Tell me how lithium ion is damaging to the environment when recycled properly? Lithium extraction can be a zero CO2 process. It's a really good stepping stone
Think realistically for a second.....if a lightning rod was struck by lightning and then moved on to the leg, the leg would move yes but in all directions....it would explode
The Jag advert suffers from advertising executives from the fossil age. Jaguar need to employ different producers for their electric cars. I have driven an electric Jag and it is wonderful! As a 1st attempt its good, very good indeed but not yet as good as a Tesla.
So, is there anybody doing recycling of lithium-ion batteries at scale to recover cobalt, nickel, lithium, aluminium, copper and steel? In North America or Europe?
Looks like advertising on steroids to me
Great presentation, clear and comprehensive.
They want investors,, One for sure , the UK.
I watched a lot of old documentaries from the UK from the 50's, 60's and they were good at what they made, leaders in aerospace ,, If the comet didn't have that weakness, and disasters from the punched holes for rivets instead of drilled holes they would have beaten the 707 as the most popular jet airliner and who knows, maybe would have been the industry leaders for all those years.
Then they try so hard with the concord,, it was starting to make some money when fuel prices dropped and they spent a bunch reworking the older aircraft into upgrades and the 911 happened putting a freeze on air traffic which didn't help with lost revenue but moreover a percentage of the top passengers where gone with 911,, when your talking only, 108 passengers on that aircraft doesn't take many regular customers gone to make each flight a loss.
I would like to see the UK have a namesake industry again like aviation was at one time. It's tough to compete against countries that pay there help small wages and no control about pollution of anyform,, Glad to see this industry not going to one of these countries to get there batt. made,,, Think they know that the standards of Q/C would be to high of a reject rate or early failure which those batteries are not a two min remover and replace recall,,, It would bankrupt the company.
Just a hard sales pitch with misinformation
Hang on, someone's pinched the bench!
90 kilo watt in massive 4,100 batteries in each EV compared to the fictitious 10 giga watt mini sized arc reactor in Iron Man
Join Serena Corr, Simon Moores, David Greenwood and Judith Richardson as they explore the world of batteries. This discussion was generously supported by the Faraday Institution.
btw it's Prof. Corr, not "Carr" - it's right there on her name badge :)
@@robertjakob7009 You are absolutely right.
@@jakeybob We can only say oops. Thank you!
Not sure all this Li battery is the way forward-will need a lot of Coal fire plants to re-charge them.
Thought this was going to be about artillery...
*_...acceleration is 'nice' but the rider really wants less without less overall performance, and that'll require a revision of traffic patterning...not just hyperloops but places to go that are needfully useful-schools are nice but education is more effectual at home by improving the study atmosphere, stores are nice but delivery is better by improving logistics, and delivery vehicles, and traffic patterns, and idea-to-product reliability..._*
someone has stolen the desk 😎
Jaguar insisted on taking a dump on it at the beginning, so they had to take it outside and burn it. So much for history.
Great Presentation, though you will get there eventually; once you start to use a Crystal Submatrix (which is currently forbidden) for the battery/cage assembly... which can result in an ACTUAL SURPLUS of Energy... end edit - Original - FAIL: MATTER IS IN A MULTIDIMENSIONAL PHASE CHANGE PROCESS THAT PRODUCES AN EXCESS OF ENERGY & THEREFORE MATTER! AND IT = ~+10% (Plus about 10 Percent)
I'll give it 100 & 10%
Dial it up to 11!
Liked and Shared.
Not really quite accurate to say that Lithium Ion is the new oil. Even if battery vehicles were say 80% of the market those shiny Teslas are full of any number of materials that require oil products to manufacture - plastics, tyres, rubber suspension parts, carpet not to mention electrical components. All those materials have to be mined by oil powered machinery. Moved to the ports by oil powered trucks. Then put on a ship powered by oil and moved to another port where its off loaded and then put on another truck and taken to the factory.
I can see coal dying out in some countries at least for power but staying to be used for chemical manufacture. Oil both for power and for industrial processes is not going anywhere.
Anyone who wants to get a good idea of what its like to drive various EV's - ipace, Kona, Leaf, eGolf, various Teslas should watch Bjorn Nyland on TH-cam.
70% of oil use is for transportation, and 65% of that is for personal transportation. Oil will be used for plastics but that will require a fraction of what's used today.
@@glibsonoran Food production. Industrial production. Heavy transportation. Industrial equipment. Sea transportation. Most of it is done by diesel engines. Most of this is not practical to replace with electric power. Further more you are assuming electric vehicles achieve 100% of the personal transportation market. EV's are expensive. I can't afford to spend £30,000 on a car, let alone one with a 80-100 mile range. My shitty old Toyota will do 450 miles on a tank of fuel, costs next to nothing to repair with plenty of available spare parts and parts in scrap yards. The batteries in EV's degrade badly after probably around 60-80,000 miles.
Replacing a battery costs thousands. I can get a low mileage used engine for my car for £300 delivered. Even an expensive used engine is more like £1000-£1200. I bet a new battery is easily double that.
I'd rather not have to make 3 or 4 several hour charging stops when i go on holiday.
How is Brexit going to effect this industry in the Uk
Just get the idea in our heads that Lithium is what we have now, and start working on the next generation of batteries. We need to get past Lithium. It's too rare of an element that we only have one major worldwide source for. People keep bitching about fossil fuels 'running out' someday... at the exponential rate we're mining out and needing Lithium, it will be completely gone within the next 50 to 80 years unless we find another enormous deposit somewhere, or the current deposit we're mining ends up being infinitely larger than we estimate.
I'm all for alternative energy / fuels - but we gotta get real here. I'm tired of the same old crap. Let's see some innovation and some new technology talks!
tesla on the graphic.... should be named Panasonic since they make the batteries.tesla does the pack making slapping some plastic around it... 25% of the factory./
There's a lot more to making a pack than slapping some plastic around the cells. They have a lot of engineering. They have heating and cooling, for example.
*whole talk is about tesla* -> Nobody gives a shit.
*7 minutes talk about a jaguar car* -> "MARKETING, ADVERTISEMENT, MONEY, AAAAAH"
If its a 90 kW battery, it can release 405 kJ in 4.5 seconds, just enough to accelerate a 2200 kg vehicle to 30 M/h. Therefore I think she must be talking about a 90kwH battery, referring to its capacity, not its power.
Toon in to Tokyo.