Thank you Kelly for solving my problem with a simple "why didn't I think of it", elegant solution! And of course multitude of Thank Yous to "Mr. Crafty" for obvious reasons!
Thinking about primitive people and the evolution of tools, sitting around the fire or cave and one sharing a subtle idea or experience with another, and the world became a little better. One knapper shared the strap idea with another, he then took it to the next level and added to the idea by adding additional tips and alternative strapping placement. We are still those primitive people creating and sharing for the better. Great idea. Thank you and Mr. Kelly.
I love telling people that I’m going home to Knapp or I have a couple friends coming over to Knapp with me and watching their expressions! Lol. I get all kinds of reactions like silence and confused or they go into how the need a nap as well lol but it opens the door to inform people of this lost trade.
This video just changed *everything* about my knapping! I am a small woman, 5'0", with child-sized hands (seriously, they're small-- I can't wear adult gloves); I'm fairly strong from weaving and other crafts, but I've been working at knapping for a year now and still having trouble driving long flakes. So I watched this, tried a strap... and damned if it didn't work like a charm! Thank you HUGELY! I have a ton of obsidian I gathered out at Obsidian Tank here in AZ that's just waiting to be knapped, and this should really help.
@Anthony Maurice yes, phragmites will stand up to a 100lb warbow, but only if you truly have phragmites reed (Phragmites australis americanus). Put it on a spine tester to make sure. Our native phragmites reed only grows in a certain area of North America (in the general area of the US/Mexico border) , so you need to be very careful.
great!! i´ve been using a strap aswell for the indirect...as i started the methode you use. i had problems holding it aswell...and the strap works amazing!
Thanks to you & Kelley for the hints & video. I used a foam swimming noodle(small size) over the delrin rod which added stability for holding the tool in place.
Boy, was this one helpful.I was having a heck of a time trying to figure out how to hold the tool. The only instruction I get is from you and others on you tube.Thanks so much
I started knapping a couple of weeks ago. Keeping that dang thing under my calfless knee/leg is impossible. Angels were singing when this popped up on my feed. Thanks a bunch!
That helped me immensely. I'm a paraplegic. I knew I would have to find a solution like this. Thanks a lot for this time saving tip. Keep up the good work and I'll certainly keep watching and supporting your channel. It seems from reading all the other comments you're number one on the hit parade. How cool is that? :-)
Glad you showed the video.I think anybody wanting to try indirect could benefit from the demo.I for one certainly can't hold it behind my knee,I've tried every posture possible to no avail.
Pat, when you first started as Allergic Hobitt I watched your channel. At that time, to use your technique I used a U.S. army helmet band to hold the Ishi stick on top of my leg, just like you have shown with your belt. Sorry that I didn't think to share that with you back then.
Can you do a how to video? I just got my indirect oercussion flaker and I’m not sure how to use it because I’m not getting big/normal flakes. I’m also not sure if I got the right diameter. Mine is 3/4”.
I have had great results when holding the flaker under my knee but I am almost always wearing cargo shorts or a kilt and in Texas the back of the knee get slippery fast. This solves a lot of problems, can't talk more gotta go outside and try this.
So I'm curious about what diameter size rod you feel works best for this indirect percussion? I enjoy the videos to learn more about knapping. I have really come to love doing this and one of these days hope to make it to Flint Ridge or Letchworth. Living in Kansas doesn't offer much in the line of material or other knappers.
The easiest place to buy them is off eBay. They are called "UHMW Plastic Rod, White". Go back into my videos and look at video number 244 or 245 to get the sizes.
I'll have to try that. I just can't get the hang of putting something behind my knee without it wobbling around all over the place. Looks like I'll have to find me a strap somewhere.
Jack I have a question about indirect percussion. Well actually its about support with indirect percussion. I seem to be snapping my points in half between my thump and forefinger. Will you offer me clues on how to hold my work piece without breaking it where I'm holding it. Thanks a bunch, Ken
Funny - I just came in from knapping to order material for a new tool. My 1 1/4" dia rod is 12" long and that is too short for me. I am going to remake at 18"
Wood absorbs more shock (loses energy) and it splits over time... losing even more energy. If the bit gets loose, that's another loss of energy. Basically, using wood for any type of percussion causes a lot of extra work.
I have tried to nap but the flint or chart I find is so hard you can't even chip it with a hammer an i also tried glass I don't have good tools yet mine broke lol
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Thank you Kelly for solving my problem with a simple "why didn't I think of it", elegant solution! And of course multitude of Thank Yous to "Mr. Crafty" for obvious reasons!
You're very welcome
Thinking about primitive people and the evolution of tools, sitting around the fire or cave and one sharing a subtle idea or experience with another, and the world became a little better. One knapper shared the strap idea with another, he then took it to the next level and added to the idea by adding additional tips and alternative strapping placement. We are still those primitive people creating and sharing for the better. Great idea. Thank you and Mr. Kelly.
You’re like the Swiss Army knife of knapping. I too have trouble holding the tool under my knee. Thanks the information and the videos.
Tom
You're very welcome
I love telling people that I’m going home to Knapp or I have a couple friends coming over to Knapp with me and watching their expressions! Lol. I get all kinds of reactions like silence and confused or they go into how the need a nap as well lol but it opens the door to inform people of this lost trade.
This video just changed *everything* about my knapping! I am a small woman, 5'0", with child-sized hands (seriously, they're small-- I can't wear adult gloves); I'm fairly strong from weaving and other crafts, but I've been working at knapping for a year now and still having trouble driving long flakes. So I watched this, tried a strap... and damned if it didn't work like a charm! Thank you HUGELY! I have a ton of obsidian I gathered out at Obsidian Tank here in AZ that's just waiting to be knapped, and this should really help.
YsabetJustYsabet Awesome! Glad it helped. I got plenty more vids (using the strap) in the works...
@Anthony Maurice yes, phragmites will stand up to a 100lb warbow, but only if you truly have phragmites reed (Phragmites australis americanus). Put it on a spine tester to make sure. Our native phragmites reed only grows in a certain area of North America (in the general area of the US/Mexico border) , so you need to be very careful.
Thank you for sharing this please have a great day
Absolutely brilliant!!! I'm going to explore this method.
😁👍
great!! i´ve been using a strap aswell for the indirect...as i started the methode you use. i had problems holding it aswell...and the strap works amazing!
Yet another helpful tip! Thanks!
Thanks to you & Kelley for the hints & video. I used a foam swimming noodle(small size) over the delrin rod which added stability for holding the tool in place.
Good idea.
Thank you Jack , been tring to hold one under my knee ,but was hard .
you're welcome.
Boy, was this one helpful.I was having a heck of a time trying to figure out how to hold the tool. The only instruction I get is from you and others on you tube.Thanks so much
Awesome. Glad it helped!
Brilliant, a real AH HA moment and a Why didn't I think of that.
I know the feeling. :-)
Brilliant
Older video, but I have an Ishi stick coming in the mail today. Good tip!
You'll like it. 😁
Thanks for the info and.demo. Keep um coming brother.. Will try this and thank Kelly for me.
I'm sure Kelley will view this video very soon and contact me for royalties.... heheh
Multiple tools is just badass
Awesome
I started knapping a couple of weeks ago. Keeping that dang thing under my calfless knee/leg is impossible. Angels were singing when this popped up on my feed. Thanks a bunch!
Haha... angels. Yeah, I need to insert angel singing sound effects into some of these videos...
This video was really helpful thanks 🙏🏻
No problem!
That helped me immensely. I'm a paraplegic. I knew I would have to find a solution like this. Thanks a lot for this time saving tip. Keep up the good work and I'll certainly keep watching and supporting your channel. It seems from reading all the other comments you're number one on the hit parade. How cool is that? :-)
That is VERY cool. :-) And I'm glad this helped you, Tom. (Or contributed to the knapping addiction, however you want to look at it.... )
Glad you showed the video.I think anybody wanting to try indirect could benefit from the demo.I for one certainly can't hold it behind my knee,I've tried every posture possible to no avail.
Thanks Buddy. I probably should have done a video like this a long time ago.
Hello Jack, this really works well for me as a beginner. Still busting off tips but having fun!!
Awesome!
thank you!!! I'll finally b able to hold the thing now.
Glad this helps. :-)
I like that way I use a big rubber band it works great Gene Gorringe Mi 👍✌️🇺🇲
Nice
Magic.
Thanks.
simply great! It will help me a lot!
Awesome.
@@KnapperJackCrafty
Did you see the link with the photo of the tips I made?
Pat, when you first started as Allergic Hobitt I watched your channel. At that time, to use your technique I used a U.S. army helmet band to hold the Ishi stick on top of my leg, just like you have shown with your belt. Sorry that I didn't think to share that with you back then.
Cool. I am familiar with those helmet straps. :-)
Thanks I will try it
Great idea was wondering how to keep the stick stable
Can you do a how to video? I just got my indirect oercussion flaker and I’m not sure how to use it because I’m not getting big/normal flakes. I’m also not sure if I got the right diameter. Mine is 3/4”.
Niiice!
Love your Channel. Your work is beautiful. I am just starting Knapping. Just wondering how you get flakes to run to clear a face with percussion.
I have had great results when holding the flaker under my knee but I am almost always wearing cargo shorts or a kilt and in Texas the back of the knee get slippery fast. This solves a lot of problems, can't talk more gotta go outside and try this.
Cool. Let me know how it goes. I find this technique a little "wobbly" but it does take the mind off holding the flaker ( a good thing)..
holy cow this is going to save me some time.
Cool. :-))
No videos?
I will be stealing this idea for sure.
Cool. 👍
Neat
So I'm curious about what diameter size rod you feel works best for this indirect percussion? I enjoy the videos to learn more about knapping. I have really come to love doing this and one of these days hope to make it to Flint Ridge or Letchworth. Living in Kansas doesn't offer much in the line of material or other knappers.
Please search for my videos on my tools. I don't have a direct link at the moment. :-)
So very cool! Good video, could I ask you what those white dowels are made of and where I might be able to buy some?
The easiest place to buy them is off eBay. They are called "UHMW Plastic Rod, White". Go back into my videos and look at video number 244 or 245 to get the sizes.
JackCrafty ok thank you! I sure will check it out!
I'll have to try that. I just can't get the hang of putting something behind my knee without it wobbling around all over the place. Looks like I'll have to find me a strap somewhere.
Thank you Patrick this was very helpful. what pens do you use to write on your arrowheads?
I get this question often enough that I think I'll do the next video today on my pens.
And where can I find the stick That you are using for your indirect percussion?
It's an "ishi stick". Several vendors are selling them online. Kentuckyflintworks.com, for example
Yeah I find I am too skinny to keep my stick under my knee i have no flesh to keep it tucked in tight. This method could really help.
Sweet!
I notice your KEAN 105 shirt... Are you from the Abilene TX area?
No, I'm in Midland. But it's Texas so I'm not picky. :-)
Jack I have a question about indirect percussion. Well actually its about support with indirect percussion. I seem to be snapping my points in half between my thump and forefinger. Will you offer me clues on how to hold my work piece without breaking it where I'm holding it. Thanks a bunch, Ken
They are snapping in half because you're using too much force. You have to back off a little. Make thick points if you have to, for now.
Thanks Jack, I appreciate your help
What are your stick made of? Nylon or possibly high density plastic?
The sticks are UHMW plastic.
Funny - I just came in from knapping to order material for a new tool. My 1 1/4" dia rod is 12" long and that is too short for me. I am going to remake at 18"
Cool.
What would be the difference if I used hard wood instead of plastic?
Wood absorbs more shock (loses energy) and it splits over time... losing even more energy. If the bit gets loose, that's another loss of energy. Basically, using wood for any type of percussion causes a lot of extra work.
Maybe put some velcro on the stick and the pants so it does not rotate?
It could work.
I have tried to nap but the flint or chart I find is so hard you can't even chip it with a hammer an i also tried glass I don't have good tools yet mine broke lol
Yep, it's hard in the beginning but that's why knapping is so addictive. :-)
Does a broom stick work?
Wood cracks too easily at the tip. Better off using plastic.
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Is Kelly Native American?
Nope. Old and white. Like me.😁
3:30 this is what my Exwife always said, I never knew what she meant
Your doing it wrong
Hey. Man. Just Curious. What method would you consider to be the correct way. ? Thanks
@@roostercogburn597He’s just trolling. Makes the exact same comment over and over.
Huge waste of time he went on and on never did show striking anything you talk most people out of the end!!!
The key words here are "Kelly Strap". Click on any other video and you'll see the striking.