@SARALLAH1001 if faith on 12 aimah of "twelver shia" was that much compulsory for one to be Musim,why were'nt it mentioned in Quran.Allah mentioned all necessary things in Quran.Namaz,Saum,Zakat ,Hajj,Tauheed,Risalat,Khatm e Nabuwwat,Iman bil malaika etc.Why Allah did'nt mention by name that iman on the imamat and infalliability of Ali ,Hussnain,Zain ul abideen,Baqir,Jafar ,Musa,Ali Raza,Jawad,Naqi,HAssan Askari (alayehim assalam ajmaeen ) is obligatory?
@SARALLAH1001 Although Nehj ul Blagha is a masterpiece but people doubt in its authenticity because it was compiled centuries later than the age of Syedna Ali alaye hi salam.
@SARALLAH1001 Quran ko naezoun per buland kernay se muawiya ki fauj be hurmati ki murtakib toh hui lakin uss mein tehreef nahi hui kyun ke Quran lakhon musalmanoun ke seenay mein bhi maujud tha.
kuffa mein jis ne b muslim bin akeel ko khat likh kar bulaya aur shaheed kia,us par lanat,khwa wo koi bi tha. Jis ne bi muhammed wa aal e muhamed ka sath chora,un ko dhoka dia,un par zulm kiay,unn sab logo par lanat beshumaaaaaar.
@SARALLAH1001 i have read this verse and the tafseer by shia is'nt correct because in every nafs,the people before Ummat e Muhammadi are included as well.Whom will they be presented with?(Salla'l la ho ala Syedna Muhammad wa aaihi) Even if we accept that only 12 aimah are meant,what about people who have not found the time of Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam ,who shia claim to be have disappeared. If a person died in between some 300 Hijri and 1432 Hijri,he did'nt find the period of..cone
@SARALLAH1001 Maula Ali alaye hi salam ke mukhlis aur itaat guzar sahaba ko Quran yaad tha toh unhon ne apne zaer e asr logon ko kyun nahi sunaya.Ammar bin yasir raziAllah anhu hazrat umar ke daur mein kufa ke governer rahay.unhon ne ahl e kufa ko qoh Quran kyun nahi sunaya.hazrat suleman madayen ke governor rahay hazrat umar ke daur mein ,unhoun ne ahl e madayen ko kyun nahi sunaya aur yad kerwaya.
@hussain935 naam bar bar wohi rakha jata hai khandan mein jo pyara lagta ho.jese Muhammad,Jafar,Ali.Jese yeh naam rakhay gaye hain kyun k yeh pyari hastiyan theen aur inn se pyar tha,wesay he woh naam rakhay gaye hain.aur bar bar rakhay gaye hain taa k rawafiz ka pol khul jaye.
@hussain935 .......sawal yeh hai ke taqriban 1000 saal se zada ho gaye hain Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam ki ghayebat ko,toh jinn logon ne unn ko dekha he nahi woh kesay apne imam ko pehchanein ge? Quran mein lafz imam mukhtalif tarah se istemal hua hai.Lihaza sabit yeh hua ke jis ayat ka hawala tu ne dia hai uss mein imam se murad Anbiya alayehim assalam ajmaeen hain Adam,Ibrahim,Musa,Nooh,Isa aur Syedna Wa Maulana muhammad e Mustafa Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam sab ki ummatoun ko..
@hussain935 contnd....... k kitni mohabbat thi Ali alaye hi salam aur khulfa e salasa rizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen mein.Issi mohabbat ki bina per toh Ali alaye hi salam ne b aur Hassan alayehi salam ne b apne shehzadoun mein se kuch k naam unn k naam pe rakhay. lakin shioun ki na insaafi dekho k muharram k pehle ashray mein hurr tak k qaseeday parh detay hain lakin inn pak nafoos ka zikr nahi kertay.hai koi jawab iss ka tumharay paas shiyo?
@SARALLAH1001 Reference Book name Usool-e-kafi vol.5 Kitab-Fazulul Quran page-312 Hadees: 28 “Imam Jafer alaye hi salam ne farmiyah ki jo Quran App SAW per yani (Nabi Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam per) Jibrail A.S leker otry thy os men 17000 ayaat theen”astaghfirUllah. Imam Jafar alaye hi salam aur tamam aimah se ghalat aur jhuti riwayat mansoob kernay walay shioun pe laanat.Quran ki tehreef aur takhfeef mein yaqeen rakhnay waloun pe laanat.
@hussain935 ..... Aur Mola Ali alaye hi salam ne hazrat umme kulsoom ko hazrat umar ke aqd mein bhi toh dia tha.sawal yeh nahi ke woh bibi fatima ki beti theen ya hazrat isma ki,sawal yeh hai ke theen toh MAula ki kafalat mein na.dunya toh unn ke hawalay se janti rhi na
@SARALLAH1001 jis ayat ka hawala aap ne dia uss se murad ghaliban Nabi hain har ummat ke.warna jo pehli ummatein guzri hain woh 12 aimah mein se kis ke sath jayen gi.ayat mein lafz use hua hai "kulla" jis ka matlab hai all.all mein sab aa jatay hain yani pichli ummatein bhi.
@SARALLAH1001 Tabrasi has written in ehtajaj e tabrasi that Abu Bakr and Umar RizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen were the first ones to offer the funeral of Prophet Salla' la ho alaye hi wasallam. LaanatUllahi alal kazibeen.LaanatUllahi ala-r-rafizeen.
@hussain935 contnd..agar woh tohmatein aur zulm ki khud skhta kahaniyan sahi hain (Nauzbillah,AstaghfirUllah) toh phir iss ka matlab hai k sheikhain Ali alaye hi salam aur Syeda Fatima SalamUllahi alaye ha k Abu jehal aur abu lehab se b baray dushman huey (Nauzbillah,AstghfirUllah). Toh phir kya wajah hui k abu Jehal aur Abu lehab k naam na rkhay aur unn k rakh liye?Abu jehal se toh qitaal hua lakin jinhoun ne unn ki izzat aur gherat Syeda tun Nisa SalamUllahi alaye ha ..contnd..
@SARALLAH1001 but she later on repented.Hazrat Zubair refrained from war and escaped in order to refrain from fighting with Ali alaye hi salam.Hazrat Talha RaziAllah anhu was about to escape but marwan martyred him. Only muawia was the one who kept fighting for nothing. And has'nt Allah declared that wives of Prophet salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam are mothers of believers?
@SARALLAH1001 Khamenei ek esa aalim hai ke uss ke fatawa perfection ke qreeb hain. kisi aur aalim ke fatawa itne perfect nahi lagay mujhe,lakin behrhaal uss se bhi mein ne kuch sawal uss ki website pe puchay thay jin ka woh jawab nahi dae saka 2,2.5 mnhs ho gaye hain .
@hussain935 ....agar yeh masail uss waqt wazeh na hotay toh tamam ulema tumharay allamaoun aur ayatUllah ki tarah gumrah ho jaatay.jis ka dil kerta hai uth ke keh daeta hai ke mujhe Imam e Zamana ki ziyarat hui hai unhoun ne yeh kaha hai lihaza yeh hukam hai. Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam ki ghayebat ke baad tum logon ne khums ka aqeeda gharr lia.zakaat nahi daeni lakin khums daena hai.wah g wah.jang ho ya na ho khums daena hai chahay kisi mukhalif aqeday ke admi ka maal chura lo....
@hussain935 ........Kitab sulaim bin qais,bihar ul anwar mein puri ki puri naql ki gayee hai aur uss ke ilawa yaqoob kulaini ne bhi kitab sulaim se ahadees li hain. agar tum iss ko authentic nahi mantay toh uss ka matlab hai ke yeh hamlay wali riwayat bhi ghalat hai aur baad mein gharri gayee hai.
@SARALLAH1001 Ayat kese ghalat ho gayi.zikr ki hifazat ka waada tha.Quran toh seenoun mein mehfuz tha.mus'haf ki hifazat ka waada nahi hai,waada yeh hai ke iss Quran mein jo kuch darj hai woh mehfuz rahay ga.
@SARALLAH1001 HAramzaday andhay teer na chala. Bibi Ayesha RaziAllah anha ne ek ghazwa mein Nabi e Akram Salla'l la ho alaye he wasallam ke shana bashana bhi shirkat ki hai.ghazwa ka naam mujhe yaad nahi aa raha. Uss ke ilawa hazrat umm e ammara,khaula bint e zarrar rizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen waghera inn ka bhi jangoun mein jaana sabit hai.beshak bibi ayesha ne bht bari ghalti ki Mola se jang ker ke lakin iss se yeh baat sabit nahi hoti jo tu keh raha hai.
@SARALLAH1001 how does this show that at that time the concept was that 12 aimah are still to come ,and faith on their infalliability is compulsory?Tauheed,Quran,Akhirat,Malaika,Anbiya (sabiqa Anbiya ki Nubuwwat aur sadaqat pe aur Syedna Muhammad Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam ki sadaqat aur unn pe khatm e Nabuwwat)inn cheezoun pe min o ann iman zaruri hai. aimah pe zaruri nazhi azur infalliability ko anbiya alaye him salam k ilawaz kisi ki tazraf manszub kerna ghalat hai.
@SARALLAH1001 khilafat ki daleel ye hai ke tum yeh btao ke Maula Ali alaye hi salam ke farmanbardar sahaba huzaifa bin al yamaan aur suleman farsi lashkaron mein shareek ho ker jangein larnay jatay rhay hazrat umar ke daur mein.agar woh khalifa e batil thay toh huzaifa aur suleman rizwanUllahi anhum jangein larnay kyun jatay aur ammar governory kyun lete?.........
@SARALLAH1001 quran mein quran ko b imam kaha ghya hai,anbiya ko b imam kaha gya hai aur aimah e ehl e bayt alayehim assalam ajmaeen ka naam k sath zikr nahi.
@hussain935 ...unn ke Anbiya ke naamoun se pukara jaye ga. Bab e Fatima SalamUllahi alaye ha ke jalaye janay ki riwayat toh tum kitab sulaim se baray shouq se uthatay ho (kyun ke sab se pehle woh riwayat issi kitab mein likhi gayee thi),lakin Quran ke mukammal honay mein tum ko taamul hai...........
@hussain935 aur tu kehta hai ke Seenoun mein mehfuz Quran woh wala nahi hai NAzubillah toh iss ka matlab hai ke Mola Ali alaye hi salam ke wafa dar ashaab mein se kisi ne bhi agay logon ko uss quran ko hifz kernay ki targheeb na di jo bqaul tumharay asal tha?aur Quran ki tehreef ki baat ker ke tu yeh saabit ker raha hai ke musalman bhi isaiyoun aur yehudiyon jese he hain ke unn ki kitab mein bhi tehreef ho gai Nauzbillah.
@hussain935 Jab Ali alaye hi salam jantay han k haqq kya hai aur haqq ki khatir muawiya k khilaf jangein b lartey hain,toh agar Pehli teen khilafatoun ko khilaf e wasiyyat samajhte toh udhar b talwar uthatay.Hussain alaye hi salam ne zulm k khilaf talwar uthai haalan k zulm ummat per tha unn pe personal nahi tha,aur phir shahadat paai,toh unn k walid Ali alaye hi salam ne ummat pe honay walay zulm (jo shia k mutabiq wasiyyat pe aml dramad na hnay ki wjah se hua) kyun tlwar nhi uthai?
@SARALLAH1001 Ghazi Abbas alaye hi salam ka zikr b kertay ho aur maatam b lakin Ali alaye hi salam k jo 3 bete Abu bakar bin Ali,Usman bin Ali aur Umar bin Ali alayehim assalam ajmaeen karbala mein shaheed huey unn ka zikr kyun nahi kertay?Qasim alaye hi salam ka maatam b kertay ho zikr b,Abu bakar bin hassan aur usman bin hassan ka zikr kyun nahi kertay?alayehim assalam ajmaeen. Ans:iss liye k iss se yeh saabit ho jaye ga k Ali alaye hi salam aur khulfa mein kitni mohabbat thi k .....contnd
@hussain935 aur kisi ko esi b kya zarurat hai k apne Khandan mein maujud pyare naam jese Hamza RaziAlah anhu, aur deegar naam jo unn k wafadar hon,unn k mukhlis hon,unn ko b chhor ker apni aal k naam rakhay jese Ammar,Suleman,Miqdad,Bilal,Awais RizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen. Arab mein naamoun ka itna b ehat nahi tha k dushmanoun k naam rakhne shuru ker diye jayen. aur agar woh tohmatein jo rawafiz Khulfa e Salasa RizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen pe lagatay hain ,khasusan sheikhan pe...contnd.
@SARALLAH1001 shia 3 namazein parhte hain Quran ki ek ayat se 3 se zada auqat sabit hain namaz ke. issi tarah rouza kholnay ke liye tum raat ka intezar kertay ho lakin duniya ke kuch mulkoun mein toh suraj puri tarah ghroob he nahi hota aur kuch mulkon mein kabhi kabhi din 17,18 hrs ka bhi hota hai. wahan kya kero gay? wuzu ke tariqay mein koi ikhtilaf nahi.peron pe masah kerna theek hai.
i hope the comments are enough and now mr.Mrs. SarAllah wll jsut waste time to defend him/herself.I will be free after 23rd or 25th of this month.i'll see then what else he has "tried" to bring in his defense. and then i'll reply
@SARALLAH1001 wah g wah!iss sawal ka jawab tum smaet koi shia na dae saka hai na aur dae sakay ga. Ali alaye hi salam ne woh naam jo zada mashur thay jesay saeed,hisham,amar yeh chhor ker Abu Bakar,Ali ,Usman rakhay.agar esi he koi baat thi toh unhoun ne apne pyaroun k naam muawiya,zubair,talha waghera kyun na rakhay? Phir Hassan alaye hi salam ne b Abu Bakar aur Usman naam rakhay aur Hussain alaye hi salam ne b umar bin hussain naam rakha.
@SARALLAH1001 "Allaah often lies and does mistakes." (USOOL-E-KAAFI, page #328, yaqoob kulaini, vol 1). Khuda ki touheen kernay walay jhootoun pe beshumar laanat..
@hussain935 aur agar bqaul tumharay 17000 ayat wala quran tha NAuzbillah toh phir yeh lazim qarar paye ga ke Imam Ali alaye hi salam se Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam he sirf haqq per hain baqi HAzrat Miqdad,Hazrat Bilal ,Suleman ,Abu Zarr,Ammar,Abu Ayub Rizwan ullahi anhum ajmaeen bhi nauzbillah summa nazubillah ghalti pe thay aur asal Quran nahi jantay thay.
@SARALLAH1001 Salam parhna aur baat hai naam le ker zikr kerna aur baat hai.Hurr ki shaan mein naam le le k qaseeday parhte ho,Qasim aur Abbas alaye him salam k bhaiyon ka naam nahi lete kyun k woh khulfa k naam pe hain
@SARALLAH1001 i have'nt got that book but i know that of what nature the objections are,made by you? You are rawafiz,you see things in insulting prospective .You dont see that in the mentioning of some traditions which you refer as insulting (although they are not),there's a benefit that ummah gets awareness of certain masail.
@hussain935 ...ek qaul hai jis ka mafhum yeh hai ke yeh kahan ka insaf hai ke admi ko apni ankh ka shahteer bhi na dikhai dae au dusron ki ankh ka tinka bhi shahteer dikhai dae.aur woh misal tujh pe sadiq aati hai. tujh pe laanat ho ke tu ghalat aqayed ko khamkha defen ker raha hai.
@SARALLAH1001 aur sun meri baat. tum log toh kehte ho ke Quran ki 17000 ayat theen .laanat ho es aqeeday ko man'nay waloun per jo kehte hain ke asal mein itni ayat theen aur phir kam ker di gayeen.jab k Maula Ali alaye hi salam ne khud farmaya tha ke yehi Quran asal Quran hai.Iss mein koi cheez nayi nahi dali gayi ya purani nayi nikali gayee. phir tum kyun 17000 ayat wala Quran mante ho? laanat ho tum pe agar tum esa mante ho.
@hussain935 kya asool kafi mein yeh nahi likha ke Jibraeel e Ameen alaye hi salam ne Nauzbillah wahi lanay mein ghalti ki?NAuzbillah,AstaghfirUllah.Tumharay zakir bhi issi cheez ka dhandora peet'tay hain ke Jibraeel alaye hi salam se ghalti hui,unhein sab Ali ki misl nazar aye iss liye ghalti se wahi Ali alaye hi salam ki bjaye Khatam an Nabiyyeen Syedna Muhammad Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam ko dae gaye. jo Nabi ki nabuwwat ko barhaq na manay,jo Quran ko tehreef se mehfuz na ...
@hussain935 he did'nt find the period of any physically living Imam.Thus this emaning is wrong.The wider meaning of Imam in this meaning is any guide i.e Murshid,spiritual+religious leader. We accept aimah from Imam Ali alaye him salam to Imam Hassan Askari alaye hi salam the highest in wilayat.and even Imam Zaid alaye hi salam.And now Mahdi alaye he salam will be the guide.
@SARALLAH1001 mind your language mr./ms.You can disagree but at least show some decency and think about the sentiments of others.and give references.send me as a message on youtube.
Asool al kafi states: After Prophet Salla'l la ho alaye he wasallam all companions except hazrat miqdad,suleman,and abu zarr became apostates Nauzbillah. While fabricating this narration shia did'nt think about the rank of Hazrat Abbas,HAzrat Ibn e Abbas,Hazrat Bilal RizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen .and shia did'nt even mention the names of HAzrat Ali and Hussnain e Kareemain alayehm salam ajmaeen. This is a glimpse of their fabrications from their most authentic book.
@hussain935 ...maanay uss ko kaafir na kahein toh aur kya kahein. aur sun tumhari kitaboun mein toh yeh b likha hai ke aimah,anbiya o ausiya Maa ke paet ki bjaye maa ki raan se paeda hotay hain aur ek he din mein paeda hotay hain,9 month ka waqt darkar nahi hota. Hazrat Isa alaye hi salam toh maa k paet se aa rahay hain aur tum keh rahay ho ke tamam aimah raan se zahir hotay hain.wah g wah kya aqeeda gharra hai tum ne.
@SARALLAH1001 I had taken you as a decent shia,but you too are among thiose who were called rafizi by Imam Zaid bin Zain ul Abideen alaye him salam. However Imamun Mubeen in that verse means preseved tablet/Holy Quran.Rawafiz twist evidences and verses.
@SARALLAH1001 aur Mola Ali alaye hi salam ka hulye e mubarak be shak Nabi e Akram salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam se milta ho,lakin phir bhi agar tera yeh aqeeda hai ke jibrael alaye hi salam ko NAuzbillah ghalti hui thi toh tu kafir hai kyun ke aimah ne farishtoun ko masum kaha hai aur tu umar ibn e khattab ko toh taana daeta hai k uss ne Nabuwwat mein shak kiya,khud tu iss tarah ke be dhangay delail dae ker kya ker raha hai.tu b shak ker raha hai.imam Sajjad alaye hi salam ka...
@SARALLAH1001 You are uttering sheer nonsense.Why did'nt Imam Ali alaye hi salam took revenge of setting his house on fire and beating his wife Syyeda tun Nisa SalamUllahi alaye ha? Why did'nt he stand up,when accrding to shia books ghasb e farj happened? Even if these incidents had been happened with an ordinary weak person,he would have stood up and killed the one doing so.But Imam did'nt do this. You shia are putting a shame to the name and greatness of Ali alaye hi salaam.
@SARALLAH1001 aur tu toh khud he Quran ka munkir hai Allah ayat e tat'heer mein panjtan e Pak ki tat'heer ka elan kerta hai lakin tu NAbi kerim salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam ki zauja pe tohmat lagata hai aur Imam Hassan alaye hi salam ki zauja ko bhi bura kehta hai . toh yeh bta ke Pak aur mutahher hastiyan jin ko Allah ne Pak qarar dia hai,unn ke sath burai/gandgi kis tarah reh sakti hai ? lihaza tu bibi ayesha pe tohmat laga ker munkir e Quran ban gya hai.
@SARALLAH1001 Laaanat on you.Mind your language.I have'nt cursed you uptill now.But if you do one more time,i'll ask Syedna Ali alaye hi salam to do justice as i have'nt cursed you.and i come from a syed family. You'll be accounted for that
@SARALLAH1001 Muharram k pehle 10 din mein tum log itni ziyadti kertay ho k hurr ka zikr naam le le k kertay ho t.v pe b majalis mein b lakin aimah k zada qareebi pyaroun yani Abu Bakar bin hassan,Usman bin hassan,Abu bakar bin Ali,Usman bin Ali,Umar bin Ali alaye him slaam ka naam k sath zikr nahi kertay.Itni ziyadti.AstaghfirUllah.
@SARALLAH1001 O bhai ! meri baat sun ! tum ne toh aimah ki tadaad 12 muqarrar ker rakhi hai aur tu zabardasti sabit kerna chah raha hai ke Anbiya bhi inhi 12 mein se kisi k naam se pukaray jayen ge. teri iss daleel se toh NAuzbillah AstaghfirUllah bibi Zehra SalamUllahi alaye haa aur Syedna wa Maulana wa Khatam an Nabiyyeen Muhammad e Mustafa salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam ki shaan mein taqseer hoti hai.ab kya kahay ga tu?
@SARALLAH1001 harami iss mein bukhari ka zikr nahi,musannaf ibn e abi shayba ka zikr hai.bukhari mein yeh riwayat kahin nahi aur musannaf mein bhi sirf itna zikr hai ke umar ne aa ker dhamki di thi,waqia ka zikr nahi hai.
@SARALLAH1001 tumharay mazhab mein toh ek gali dena 80 saal ki ibadat se behtr hai.AstaghfirUllah.toh choro phir namaz rozay tilawat nawafil.2 galiyan dae ke sharabein bhi piyo,juwa bhi khelo.kyun ke 160 saal ki ibadat toh ker chukay tum. hahahah
@SARALLAH1001 oye mardood ! ja ke kisi aalim se puch ya ja ke wikipedia pe he dekh le.asool e kafi mein zaeef ahadith 9000 se zada hain aur sahi ahadis 5000 ke qarib hain.yani har ek sahi hadees ka muqablay mein 2 zaeef ahadis aur kitab likhne wala yaoob kulaini bhi 250 Hijri mein paeda hua matlab uss ne imam e ghayeb ka zamana bhi theek taur se nahi paaya.
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@SARALLAH1001 if faith on 12 aimah of "twelver shia" was that much compulsory for one to be Musim,why were'nt it mentioned in Quran.Allah mentioned all necessary things in Quran.Namaz,Saum,Zakat ,Hajj,Tauheed,Risalat,Khatm e Nabuwwat,Iman bil malaika etc.Why Allah did'nt mention by name that iman on the imamat and infalliability of Ali ,Hussnain,Zain ul abideen,Baqir,Jafar ,Musa,Ali Raza,Jawad,Naqi,HAssan Askari (alayehim assalam ajmaeen ) is obligatory?
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@SARALLAH1001 Although Nehj ul Blagha is a masterpiece but people doubt in its authenticity because it was compiled centuries later than the age of Syedna Ali alaye hi salam.
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@SARALLAH1001 Quran ko naezoun per buland kernay se muawiya ki fauj be hurmati ki murtakib toh hui lakin uss mein tehreef nahi hui kyun ke Quran lakhon musalmanoun ke seenay mein bhi maujud tha.
kuffa mein jis ne b muslim bin akeel ko khat likh kar bulaya aur shaheed kia,us par lanat,khwa wo koi bi tha.
Jis ne bi muhammed wa aal e muhamed ka sath chora,un ko dhoka dia,un par zulm kiay,unn sab logo par lanat beshumaaaaaar.
@SARALLAH1001 i have read this verse and the tafseer by shia is'nt correct because in every nafs,the people before Ummat e Muhammadi are included as well.Whom will they be presented with?(Salla'l la ho ala Syedna Muhammad wa aaihi)
Even if we accept that only 12 aimah are meant,what about people who have not found the time of Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam ,who shia claim to be have disappeared.
If a person died in between some 300 Hijri and 1432 Hijri,he did'nt find the period of..cone
@SARALLAH1001 Maula Ali alaye hi salam ke mukhlis aur itaat guzar sahaba ko Quran yaad tha toh unhon ne apne zaer e asr logon ko kyun nahi sunaya.Ammar bin yasir raziAllah anhu hazrat umar ke daur mein kufa ke governer rahay.unhon ne ahl e kufa ko qoh Quran kyun nahi sunaya.hazrat suleman madayen ke governor rahay hazrat umar ke daur mein ,unhoun ne ahl e madayen ko kyun nahi sunaya aur yad kerwaya.
@SARALLAH1001 Wider terms mein toh Progeny of Ibrahim alaye hi salam mein toh phir Hazrat Abbas RaziAllah anhu ka shumar b hota hai.
@hussain935 naam bar bar wohi rakha jata hai khandan mein jo pyara lagta ho.jese Muhammad,Jafar,Ali.Jese yeh naam rakhay gaye hain kyun k yeh pyari hastiyan theen aur inn se pyar tha,wesay he woh naam rakhay gaye hain.aur bar bar rakhay gaye hain taa k rawafiz ka pol khul jaye.
@hussain935 .......sawal yeh hai ke taqriban 1000 saal se zada ho gaye hain Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam ki ghayebat ko,toh jinn logon ne unn ko dekha he nahi woh kesay apne imam ko pehchanein ge?
Quran mein lafz imam mukhtalif tarah se istemal hua hai.Lihaza sabit yeh hua ke jis ayat ka hawala tu ne dia hai uss mein imam se murad Anbiya alayehim assalam ajmaeen hain Adam,Ibrahim,Musa,Nooh,Isa aur Syedna Wa Maulana muhammad e Mustafa Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam sab ki ummatoun ko..
@hussain935 contnd.......
k kitni mohabbat thi Ali alaye hi salam aur khulfa e salasa rizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen mein.Issi mohabbat ki bina per toh Ali alaye hi salam ne b aur Hassan alayehi salam ne b apne shehzadoun mein se kuch k naam unn k naam pe rakhay.
lakin shioun ki na insaafi dekho k muharram k pehle ashray mein hurr tak k qaseeday parh detay hain lakin inn pak nafoos ka zikr nahi kertay.hai koi jawab iss ka tumharay paas shiyo?
@SARALLAH1001 Reference Book name Usool-e-kafi vol.5 Kitab-Fazulul Quran page-312 Hadees: 28
“Imam Jafer alaye hi salam ne farmiyah ki jo Quran App SAW per yani (Nabi Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam per) Jibrail A.S leker otry thy os men 17000 ayaat theen”astaghfirUllah.
Imam Jafar alaye hi salam aur tamam aimah se ghalat aur jhuti riwayat mansoob kernay walay shioun pe laanat.Quran ki tehreef aur takhfeef mein yaqeen rakhnay waloun pe laanat.
@hussain935 ..... Aur Mola Ali alaye hi salam ne hazrat umme kulsoom ko hazrat umar ke aqd mein bhi toh dia tha.sawal yeh nahi ke woh bibi fatima ki beti theen ya hazrat isma ki,sawal yeh hai ke theen toh MAula ki kafalat mein na.dunya toh unn ke hawalay se janti rhi na
@SARALLAH1001 jis ayat ka hawala aap ne dia uss se murad ghaliban Nabi hain har ummat ke.warna jo pehli ummatein guzri hain woh 12 aimah mein se kis ke sath jayen gi.ayat mein lafz use hua hai "kulla" jis ka matlab hai all.all mein sab aa jatay hain yani pichli ummatein bhi.
@SARALLAH1001 Tabrasi has written in ehtajaj e tabrasi that Abu Bakr and Umar RizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen were the first ones to offer the funeral of Prophet Salla' la ho alaye hi wasallam.
LaanatUllahi alal kazibeen.LaanatUllahi ala-r-rafizeen.
@hussain935 contnd..agar woh tohmatein aur zulm ki khud skhta kahaniyan sahi hain (Nauzbillah,AstaghfirUllah) toh phir iss ka matlab hai k sheikhain Ali alaye hi salam aur Syeda Fatima SalamUllahi alaye ha k Abu jehal aur abu lehab se b baray dushman huey (Nauzbillah,AstghfirUllah).
Toh phir kya wajah hui k abu Jehal aur Abu lehab k naam na rkhay aur unn k rakh liye?Abu jehal se toh qitaal hua lakin jinhoun ne unn ki izzat aur gherat Syeda tun Nisa SalamUllahi alaye ha ..contnd..
@SARALLAH1001 but she later on repented.Hazrat Zubair refrained from war and escaped in order to refrain from fighting with Ali alaye hi salam.Hazrat Talha RaziAllah anhu was about to escape but marwan martyred him.
Only muawia was the one who kept fighting for nothing.
And has'nt Allah declared that wives of Prophet salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam are mothers of believers?
@SARALLAH1001 Khamenei ek esa aalim hai ke uss ke fatawa perfection ke qreeb hain.
kisi aur aalim ke fatawa itne perfect nahi lagay mujhe,lakin behrhaal uss se bhi mein ne kuch sawal uss ki website pe puchay thay jin ka woh jawab nahi dae saka 2,2.5 mnhs ho gaye hain .
@hussain935 ....agar yeh masail uss waqt wazeh na hotay toh tamam ulema tumharay allamaoun aur ayatUllah ki tarah gumrah ho jaatay.jis ka dil kerta hai uth ke keh daeta hai ke mujhe Imam e Zamana ki ziyarat hui hai unhoun ne yeh kaha hai lihaza yeh hukam hai.
Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam ki ghayebat ke baad tum logon ne khums ka aqeeda gharr lia.zakaat nahi daeni lakin khums daena hai.wah g wah.jang ho ya na ho khums daena hai chahay kisi mukhalif aqeday ke admi ka maal chura lo....
@hussain935 ........Kitab sulaim bin qais,bihar ul anwar mein puri ki puri naql ki gayee hai aur uss ke ilawa yaqoob kulaini ne bhi kitab sulaim se ahadees li hain.
agar tum iss ko authentic nahi mantay toh uss ka matlab hai ke yeh hamlay wali riwayat bhi ghalat hai aur baad mein gharri gayee hai.
@SARALLAH1001 Ayat kese ghalat ho gayi.zikr ki hifazat ka waada tha.Quran toh seenoun mein mehfuz tha.mus'haf ki hifazat ka waada nahi hai,waada yeh hai ke iss Quran mein jo kuch darj hai woh mehfuz rahay ga.
@SARALLAH1001 HAramzaday andhay teer na chala.
Bibi Ayesha RaziAllah anha ne ek ghazwa mein Nabi e Akram Salla'l la ho alaye he wasallam ke shana bashana bhi shirkat ki hai.ghazwa ka naam mujhe yaad nahi aa raha.
Uss ke ilawa hazrat umm e ammara,khaula bint e zarrar rizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen waghera inn ka bhi jangoun mein jaana sabit hai.beshak bibi ayesha ne bht bari ghalti ki Mola se jang ker ke lakin iss se yeh baat sabit nahi hoti jo tu keh raha hai.
@SARALLAH1001 how does this show that at that time the concept was that 12 aimah are still to come ,and faith on their infalliability is compulsory?Tauheed,Quran,Akhirat,Malaika,Anbiya (sabiqa Anbiya ki Nubuwwat aur sadaqat pe aur Syedna Muhammad Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam ki sadaqat aur unn pe khatm e Nabuwwat)inn cheezoun pe min o ann iman zaruri hai.
aimah pe zaruri nazhi azur infalliability ko anbiya alaye him salam k ilawaz kisi ki tazraf manszub kerna ghalat hai.
@SARALLAH1001 khilafat ki daleel ye hai ke tum yeh btao ke Maula Ali alaye hi salam ke farmanbardar sahaba huzaifa bin al yamaan aur suleman farsi lashkaron mein shareek ho ker jangein larnay jatay rhay hazrat umar ke daur mein.agar woh khalifa e batil thay toh huzaifa aur suleman rizwanUllahi anhum jangein larnay kyun jatay aur ammar governory kyun lete?.........
@SARALLAH1001 quran mein quran ko b imam kaha ghya hai,anbiya ko b imam kaha gya hai aur aimah e ehl e bayt alayehim assalam ajmaeen ka naam k sath zikr nahi.
@hussain935 ...unn ke Anbiya ke naamoun se pukara jaye ga.
Bab e Fatima SalamUllahi alaye ha ke jalaye janay ki riwayat toh tum kitab sulaim se baray shouq se uthatay ho (kyun ke sab se pehle woh riwayat issi kitab mein likhi gayee thi),lakin Quran ke mukammal honay mein tum ko taamul hai...........
@hussain935 aur tu kehta hai ke Seenoun mein mehfuz Quran woh wala nahi hai NAzubillah toh iss ka matlab hai ke Mola Ali alaye hi salam ke wafa dar ashaab mein se kisi ne bhi agay logon ko uss quran ko hifz kernay ki targheeb na di jo bqaul tumharay asal tha?aur Quran ki tehreef ki baat ker ke tu yeh saabit ker raha hai ke musalman bhi isaiyoun aur yehudiyon jese he hain ke unn ki kitab mein bhi tehreef ho gai Nauzbillah.
@hussain935 Jab Ali alaye hi salam jantay han k haqq kya hai aur haqq ki khatir muawiya k khilaf jangein b lartey hain,toh agar Pehli teen khilafatoun ko khilaf e wasiyyat samajhte toh udhar b talwar uthatay.Hussain alaye hi salam ne zulm k khilaf talwar uthai haalan k zulm ummat per tha unn pe personal nahi tha,aur phir shahadat paai,toh unn k walid Ali alaye hi salam ne ummat pe honay walay zulm (jo shia k mutabiq wasiyyat pe aml dramad na hnay ki wjah se hua) kyun tlwar nhi uthai?
@SARALLAH1001 Ghazi Abbas alaye hi salam ka zikr b kertay ho aur maatam b lakin Ali alaye hi salam k jo 3 bete Abu bakar bin Ali,Usman bin Ali aur Umar bin Ali alayehim assalam ajmaeen karbala mein shaheed huey unn ka zikr kyun nahi kertay?Qasim alaye hi salam ka maatam b kertay ho zikr b,Abu bakar bin hassan aur usman bin hassan ka zikr kyun nahi kertay?alayehim assalam ajmaeen.
Ans:iss liye k iss se yeh saabit ho jaye ga k Ali alaye hi salam aur khulfa mein kitni mohabbat thi k .....contnd
@hussain935 aur kisi ko esi b kya zarurat hai k apne Khandan mein maujud pyare naam jese Hamza RaziAlah anhu, aur deegar naam jo unn k wafadar hon,unn k mukhlis hon,unn ko b chhor ker apni aal k naam rakhay jese Ammar,Suleman,Miqdad,Bilal,Awais RizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen.
Arab mein naamoun ka itna b ehat nahi tha k dushmanoun k naam rakhne shuru ker diye jayen.
aur agar woh tohmatein jo rawafiz Khulfa e Salasa RizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen pe lagatay hain ,khasusan sheikhan pe...contnd.
@SARALLAH1001 shia 3 namazein parhte hain Quran ki ek ayat se 3 se zada auqat sabit hain namaz ke.
issi tarah rouza kholnay ke liye tum raat ka intezar kertay ho lakin duniya ke kuch mulkoun mein toh suraj puri tarah ghroob he nahi hota aur kuch mulkon mein kabhi kabhi din 17,18 hrs ka bhi hota hai.
wahan kya kero gay?
wuzu ke tariqay mein koi ikhtilaf nahi.peron pe masah kerna theek hai.
i hope the comments are enough and now mr.Mrs. SarAllah wll jsut waste time to defend him/herself.I will be free after 23rd or 25th of this month.i'll see then what else he has "tried" to bring in his defense.
and then i'll reply
@SARALLAH1001 wah g wah!iss sawal ka jawab tum smaet koi shia na dae saka hai na aur dae sakay ga.
Ali alaye hi salam ne woh naam jo zada mashur thay jesay saeed,hisham,amar yeh chhor ker Abu Bakar,Ali ,Usman rakhay.agar esi he koi baat thi toh unhoun ne apne pyaroun k naam muawiya,zubair,talha waghera kyun na rakhay?
Phir Hassan alaye hi salam ne b Abu Bakar aur Usman naam rakhay aur Hussain alaye hi salam ne b umar bin hussain naam rakha.
@SARALLAH1001 "Allaah often lies and does mistakes." (USOOL-E-KAAFI, page #328, yaqoob kulaini, vol 1).
Khuda ki touheen kernay walay jhootoun pe beshumar laanat..
@hussain935 aur agar bqaul tumharay 17000 ayat wala quran tha NAuzbillah toh phir yeh lazim qarar paye ga ke Imam Ali alaye hi salam se Imam Mahdi alaye hi salam he sirf haqq per hain baqi HAzrat Miqdad,Hazrat Bilal ,Suleman ,Abu Zarr,Ammar,Abu Ayub Rizwan ullahi anhum ajmaeen bhi nauzbillah summa nazubillah ghalti pe thay aur asal Quran nahi jantay thay.
@SARALLAH1001 Salam parhna aur baat hai naam le ker zikr kerna aur baat hai.Hurr ki shaan mein naam le le k qaseeday parhte ho,Qasim aur Abbas alaye him salam k bhaiyon ka naam nahi lete kyun k woh khulfa k naam pe hain
@SARALLAH1001 i have'nt got that book but i know that of what nature the objections are,made by you?
You are rawafiz,you see things in insulting prospective .You dont see that in the mentioning of some traditions which you refer as insulting (although they are not),there's a benefit that ummah gets awareness of certain masail.
@SARALLAH1001 agar aur kisi ko imam nahi mantay toh khomeini ko kyun mante ho? :)
@hussain935 ...ek qaul hai jis ka mafhum yeh hai ke yeh kahan ka insaf hai ke admi ko apni ankh ka shahteer bhi na dikhai dae au dusron ki ankh ka tinka bhi shahteer dikhai dae.aur woh misal tujh pe sadiq aati hai.
tujh pe laanat ho ke tu ghalat aqayed ko khamkha defen ker raha hai.
@SARALLAH1001 sahi bukhari ki uss hadith ka reference dae jahan ye likha hai.aur agar refernce ghalat hua toh tu jhoota ho ga.
@SARALLAH1001 aur sun meri baat.
tum log toh kehte ho ke Quran ki 17000 ayat theen .laanat ho es aqeeday ko man'nay waloun per jo kehte hain ke asal mein itni ayat theen aur phir kam ker di gayeen.jab k Maula Ali alaye hi salam ne khud farmaya tha ke yehi Quran asal Quran hai.Iss mein koi cheez nayi nahi dali gayi ya purani nayi nikali gayee.
phir tum kyun 17000 ayat wala Quran mante ho?
laanat ho tum pe agar tum esa mante ho.
@hussain935 kya asool kafi mein yeh nahi likha ke Jibraeel e Ameen alaye hi salam ne Nauzbillah wahi lanay mein ghalti ki?NAuzbillah,AstaghfirUllah.Tumharay zakir bhi issi cheez ka dhandora peet'tay hain ke Jibraeel alaye hi salam se ghalti hui,unhein sab Ali ki misl nazar aye iss liye ghalti se wahi Ali alaye hi salam ki bjaye Khatam an Nabiyyeen Syedna Muhammad Salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam ko dae gaye.
jo Nabi ki nabuwwat ko barhaq na manay,jo Quran ko tehreef se mehfuz na ...
@hussain935 he did'nt find the period of any physically living Imam.Thus this emaning is wrong.The wider meaning of Imam in this meaning is any guide i.e Murshid,spiritual+religious leader.
We accept aimah from Imam Ali alaye him salam to Imam Hassan Askari alaye hi salam the highest in wilayat.and even Imam Zaid alaye hi salam.And now Mahdi alaye he salam will be the guide.
@SARALLAH1001 mind your language mr./ms.You can disagree but at least show some decency and think about the sentiments of others.and give references.send me as a message on youtube.
Asool al kafi states:
After Prophet Salla'l la ho alaye he wasallam all companions except hazrat miqdad,suleman,and abu zarr became apostates Nauzbillah.
While fabricating this narration shia did'nt think about the rank of Hazrat Abbas,HAzrat Ibn e Abbas,Hazrat Bilal RizwanUllahi anhum ajmaeen .and shia did'nt even mention the names of HAzrat Ali and Hussnain e Kareemain alayehm salam ajmaeen.
This is a glimpse of their fabrications from their most authentic book.
@hussain935 ...maanay uss ko kaafir na kahein toh aur kya kahein.
aur sun tumhari kitaboun mein toh yeh b likha hai ke aimah,anbiya o ausiya Maa ke paet ki bjaye maa ki raan se paeda hotay hain aur ek he din mein paeda hotay hain,9 month ka waqt darkar nahi hota.
Hazrat Isa alaye hi salam toh maa k paet se aa rahay hain aur tum keh rahay ho ke tamam aimah raan se zahir hotay hain.wah g wah kya aqeeda gharra hai tum ne.
@hussain935 ....nikalta hai.
lihaza itna agay matt barh ke tujh pe duniya aur akhirat donaun mein he azab aaye.
@SARALLAH1001 I had taken you as a decent shia,but you too are among thiose who were called rafizi by Imam Zaid bin Zain ul Abideen alaye him salam.
However Imamun Mubeen in that verse means preseved tablet/Holy Quran.Rawafiz twist evidences and verses.
@SARALLAH1001 aur Mola Ali alaye hi salam ka hulye e mubarak be shak Nabi e Akram salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam se milta ho,lakin phir bhi agar tera yeh aqeeda hai ke jibrael alaye hi salam ko NAuzbillah ghalti hui thi toh tu kafir hai kyun ke aimah ne farishtoun ko masum kaha hai aur tu umar ibn e khattab ko toh taana daeta hai k uss ne Nabuwwat mein shak kiya,khud tu iss tarah ke be dhangay delail dae ker kya ker raha hai.tu b shak ker raha hai.imam Sajjad alaye hi salam ka...
@SARALLAH1001 hahaha.tu pehchan le ga hunh.
tum shiye toh muqtada as sadar ko iraq mein mahdi bna ke bethe huey thay.
@SARALLAH1001 You are uttering sheer nonsense.Why did'nt Imam Ali alaye hi salam took revenge of setting his house on fire and beating his wife Syyeda tun Nisa SalamUllahi alaye ha?
Why did'nt he stand up,when accrding to shia books ghasb e farj happened?
Even if these incidents had been happened with an ordinary weak person,he would have stood up and killed the one doing so.But Imam did'nt do this.
You shia are putting a shame to the name and greatness of Ali alaye hi salaam.
@SARALLAH1001 aur tu toh khud he Quran ka munkir hai Allah ayat e tat'heer mein panjtan e Pak ki tat'heer ka elan kerta hai lakin tu NAbi kerim salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam ki zauja pe tohmat lagata hai aur Imam Hassan alaye hi salam ki zauja ko bhi bura kehta hai .
toh yeh bta ke Pak aur mutahher hastiyan jin ko Allah ne Pak qarar dia hai,unn ke sath burai/gandgi kis tarah reh sakti hai ?
lihaza tu bibi ayesha pe tohmat laga ker munkir e Quran ban gya hai.
@SARALLAH1001 Laaanat on you.Mind your language.I have'nt cursed you uptill now.But if you do one more time,i'll ask Syedna Ali alaye hi salam to do justice as i have'nt cursed you.and i come from a syed family.
You'll be accounted for that
@SARALLAH1001 Muharram k pehle 10 din mein tum log itni ziyadti kertay ho k hurr ka zikr naam le le k kertay ho t.v pe b majalis mein b lakin aimah k zada qareebi pyaroun yani Abu Bakar bin hassan,Usman bin hassan,Abu bakar bin Ali,Usman bin Ali,Umar bin Ali alaye him slaam ka naam k sath zikr nahi kertay.Itni ziyadti.AstaghfirUllah.
Lakoh delily do lekn tom kafir ho aur raho gy q k shai name hi kofar ka ha
@SARALLAH1001 O bhai ! meri baat sun !
tum ne toh aimah ki tadaad 12 muqarrar ker rakhi hai aur tu zabardasti sabit kerna chah raha hai ke Anbiya bhi inhi 12 mein se kisi k naam se pukaray jayen ge.
teri iss daleel se toh NAuzbillah AstaghfirUllah bibi Zehra SalamUllahi alaye haa aur Syedna wa Maulana wa Khatam an Nabiyyeen Muhammad e Mustafa salla'l la ho alaye hi wasallam ki shaan mein taqseer hoti hai.ab kya kahay ga tu?
@SARALLAH1001 harami iss mein bukhari ka zikr nahi,musannaf ibn e abi shayba ka zikr hai.bukhari mein yeh riwayat kahin nahi aur musannaf mein bhi sirf itna zikr hai ke umar ne aa ker dhamki di thi,waqia ka zikr nahi hai.
@SARALLAH1001 tumharay mazhab mein toh ek gali dena 80 saal ki ibadat se behtr hai.AstaghfirUllah.toh choro phir namaz rozay tilawat nawafil.2 galiyan dae ke sharabein bhi piyo,juwa bhi khelo.kyun ke 160 saal ki ibadat toh ker chukay tum.
hahahah
@SARALLAH1001 oye mardood ! ja ke kisi aalim se puch ya ja ke wikipedia pe he dekh le.asool e kafi mein zaeef ahadith 9000 se zada hain aur sahi ahadis 5000 ke qarib hain.yani har ek sahi hadees ka muqablay mein 2 zaeef ahadis aur kitab likhne wala yaoob kulaini bhi 250 Hijri mein paeda hua matlab uss ne imam e ghayeb ka zamana bhi theek taur se nahi paaya.