actually, you want to find the right temperature BEFORE the right extrusion-multiplier. That's crucial, because a change in temperature does affect the amount of extruded material.
Dumb question, but what if my flow rate that I try the temperature test is jacked? Seems like multiple iterations might be needed. Would this work better? Iteration1: Set flow rate, vary temp Iteration2: Set temp, vary flow rate Iteration3: Set flow rate, vary temp Or is there a better way?
Mark Johnsen just remember that you are not the first person to 3D print. No need to reinvent the wheel. Look up what settings other people use and use that as a starting point. It’s likely your ideal settings will be relatively close to what others use. We all stand on the shoulders of giants you know!
Laymen here, but wouldn't it be offset either way? Perhaps he could find another temp that worked with another extrusion, but does it matter terribly which one he chooses first? In either case he gets the best look on both prints.
@@ServentofTheMostMerciful yep, and with the passing of a year all points are null and void right? People definitely dont watch videos after their original date and have questions when they view them...
This video is a MUST for those who are new to 3D printing - it will help understand different brands and materials and the effects of temperature, speed ect.
I thought the narration was excellent. You gave just the information that was needed and not the waffle most people add. All we have to do is just watch it few times, which is the best way to learn something. Well done.
I cant thank you enough Taow!. This is so logical & easy. Its helped me a lot. For those of you who are using a newer version of Cura, the feature is still built in & is SO EASY to use. It can be found at the top menu bar under Extensions/Post Processing/Modify G-Code. Just select "Add a Script" button & then select the "ChangeatZ" option. I selected this option 11 times and set each one to give me 11 flow tests starting from 105% down to 95%. I'm printing it now & can clearly see what setting I can change to make a huge difference to my prints. It literally only takes 5 mins to set the info (No coding involved - just tick boxes or type in the flow rate percentage you want to test. Just going back to Cura now to do exactly the same for my temperature test.
Hi, Thanks for the video. My prints have been hit and miss lately, and you've given me some good ideas for finding the right settings for my printer and filament. Many thanks.
Honestly, I thought he was speaking at a great speed. lol. That's how fast my brain works and I actually really liked this video. It was quick and informative. Gives me some more to work with when I use my printer.
Great video. I wish I could afford one, but not in my budget @ this time. U just keep on doing what u love doing. U have great skills son. And ur going to do a lot with ur tallants & ur still young. I'm just blowed away with all u know & can do. Every time I watch ur videos on TH-cam, I learn something new, & I'm 50 yrs old body wise, but 20 yrs old in spirit. Thank u for that. I truly mean it also. U have a great day or night. Looking forward to ur next video. Thanks for sharing & tell ur Mum & Dad Thank you for letting u share them with us. Best regards, Chris
Thanks Taow, you're a star! I've just started printing with a Reprap/Prusa hybrid I was given by a friend of a friend and didn't know which way to turn!
you mean all the yoda heads were printed with the same machine? and the results vary that much?! wow I'm saving on a 3D printer right now and this is one of the things I need to learn
This was helpful w/ a newer version of CURA 3.x community.ultimaker.com/topic/21317-cura-31-change-at-height/ Mind you, the 15.x version is the OLDer version and @TAOW had the previous version.
Thanks for the video! Just changed the PLA filament yesterday and my prints are pretty bad. The spiral vase cube is a great idea! I will try to find the right settings for this filament :)
fast but i like it good video if you can not follow than pause and rewatch the area you dont understand fox. i like fast so no time wasting blah blah blah great work kid
Good idea for finding settings. Anthony over at The Hot End did a similar video using Simplify3D. Personally, I would find the perfect temperature before finding the extrusion multiplier, but that's just my opinion.
If you add 2 9mm Clip-on Ferrite Ring Core on each axis and the main power cable you will greatly reduce noise and ringing. Prints will come out smoother. Also adding 1 32x3 mm round n52 magnet completes for perfect walls.
The video was too fast for me and what I really would have liked is a copy of all of the specs you added as maybe a link. I tried to install Cura in 3 computers and after 8 installs I got one to work. I am not sure how you change the temperature or what plugin you used. The print was a total mess but I appreciate the effort and the ideas!
Very Nice... Have you tried using ABS juice to adhere to your print bed. I have found after 3 years of printing this works the best for me. The print sticks to the bed well and easy to remove. I have found printing planetary gears are a good measure of your printer. Another good project but a very involved one is the Imoov droid robot. A good place to get advice on your printer is 3D hubs printing community. Good luck with your printer enjoy.
Very good! Please could you do more videos like this - perhaps a little more slowly to allows time for these excellent ideas to settle into my rather slower moving brain😊❗️
One thing you might want to try, is putting a piece of paper on the base. It makes it insanely easier to pull off the finished project. Naturally, you want it to be taped flat and such. I know I've printed a few things that I would have never gotten off without snapping if I didn't have the paper.
you should try printing in different filaments. i know its not very original but if you where to use different filaments and integrate them into other projects then that would be cool. an example of this would be using wood filament to print a low strength trigger mechanism that could have more pieces in it. it wouldn't be able to withstand a lot of force but would be a great example of this integration. or flexible fighting knives so they are totally safe and have bendy bevels.
+telefon72 If you pause the video you can see his settings in Cura are actually around 230-255, i think he accidentally said 100 instead of 200. Having worked with 3D printers for many years i have found 230-235 to be the best temperature for most ABS filaments.
I actually prefer faster explanitations. the beauty of youtube tutorials is you can watch any part as many times as you like. besides, if you have chrome you can get a video speed controler which allows you to fine tune the speed any video plays.
I'm planning on making an object that has various angles and curves to test settings. Might be overkill, but I have OCD, so I don't mind. I currently just look up recommended settings and write it on a sticker on each spool.
120°C for ABS? That wouldn't even extrude PLA! You probably ment 220°C And I would maybe adjust the temperature before touching the flow rate. But it is a nice little Prusa youve got there nice build ;)
Great tip. But theoretically, there might be something wrong with this approach. You had to choose a temperature ad-hoc to do the flow-rate test. If you started with a different temperature, might you have found a different (better?) optimal flow-rate?
Hey, a bit off of what you're doing but it's still plastic. You should try out polymorph which is a mouldable plastic that you could use for your projects such as handles. Thanks
Excellent video, very helpful, I'm about to buy a Prusa i3 kit to build from eBay, would you have any advise for me? I understand that the acrylic kits are not so good as they can warp with the heat.
Tried this method before and it does work but I have a gripe. The printer takes a while to change the hot ends temperature, sometimes the temperature is reached at the very end of the section with that temp. setting. This makes it hard to read where the temperature setting actually reached the setting specified. Having the ability to see what temperature your hot end is in real time makes it easy to catalog at what layer/height the temperatures in the settings are actually reached. That's the only way I can figure out what the actual temperature was at when the printer was producing good results.
Hello Artof, Is this printer accurate enough to make gauges, such as plate gauge? Or how about measuring tools? Or how about a obelisk or two with opening parts that could hold items? If this is a bit too basic, then could it manage to print a gyroscope? I realise that these suggestions aren't in keeping with your weapons theme but you could at lest use the rejects as targets! Of course you could make scabbards for your knives too. I imagine that one day all of this will lead to some "master-projects" where you use each of your workshop machines to make components that assemble into something amazing!
Excellent info in this video. You really helped me nail the temperature for my PLA in a quick, cheap and easy way. I actually did the temperature test first which may be why when I tried to vary the flow rate from 107-97% there was almost no difference. While this was fairly quick, it isn't something I want to do with 30 different spools. Do you think different colors of the same brand are going to use the same settings?
Hi, thanks for your video. How do you decide on the printing temperature when doing the flowrate test? These are quite connected to each other I would say.
What kind of surface is your print bed? I want to say aluminum but can't tell... Also, awesome review. I just got a smoothie 5x and I'm trying to get as much awesome out of it as I can. Up until now I've only done the 100 or 150 mm extrusion test.
Hey thanks for sharing. Just curious about 7:05. Do you think the better layer fusion could be caused by the heated print bed? Maybe should try to flip the temperature profiles and see if you get a better adhesion at the top.
actually, you want to find the right temperature BEFORE the right extrusion-multiplier. That's crucial, because a change in temperature does affect the amount of extruded material.
Dumb question, but what if my flow rate that I try the temperature test is jacked? Seems like multiple iterations might be needed.
Would this work better?
Iteration1: Set flow rate, vary temp
Iteration2: Set temp, vary flow rate
Iteration3: Set flow rate, vary temp
Or is there a better way?
Mark Johnsen just remember that you are not the first person to 3D print. No need to reinvent the wheel. Look up what settings other people use and use that as a starting point. It’s likely your ideal settings will be relatively close to what others use. We all stand on the shoulders of giants you know!
Laymen here, but wouldn't it be offset either way? Perhaps he could find another temp that worked with another extrusion, but does it matter terribly which one he chooses first? In either case he gets the best look on both prints.
@@HobbySauce dude, that was 1y ago
@@ServentofTheMostMerciful yep, and with the passing of a year all points are null and void right? People definitely dont watch videos after their original date and have questions when they view them...
This video is a MUST for those who are new to 3D printing - it will help understand different brands and materials and the effects of temperature, speed ect.
I for one was glad you kept it fast paced. You spoke clear and without extra filler. This is how I like my tutorials. Nice editing as well.
i did not understand why my prints were shitty until i saw this video. Im glad i watched it.
I thought the narration was excellent. You gave just the information that was needed and not the waffle most people add. All we have to do is just watch it few times, which is the best way to learn something. Well done.
Gotta say, I absolutely agree. I find all the verbose filler that most youtubers add to be quite frustrating.
I cant thank you enough Taow!. This is so logical & easy. Its helped me a lot. For those of you who are using a newer version of Cura, the feature is still built in & is SO EASY to use. It can be found at the top menu bar under Extensions/Post Processing/Modify G-Code. Just select "Add a Script" button & then select the "ChangeatZ" option. I selected this option 11 times and set each one to give me 11 flow tests starting from 105% down to 95%. I'm printing it now & can clearly see what setting I can change to make a huge difference to my prints. It literally only takes 5 mins to set the info (No coding involved - just tick boxes or type in the flow rate percentage you want to test. Just going back to Cura now to do exactly the same for my temperature test.
Hi, Thanks for the video. My prints have been hit and miss lately, and you've given me some good ideas for finding the right settings for my printer and filament. Many thanks.
Honestly, I thought he was speaking at a great speed. lol. That's how fast my brain works and I actually really liked this video. It was quick and informative. Gives me some more to work with when I use my printer.
Great video. I wish I could afford one, but not in my budget @ this time. U just keep on doing what u love doing. U have great skills son. And ur going to do a lot with ur tallants & ur still young.
I'm just blowed away with all u know & can do. Every time I watch ur videos on TH-cam, I learn something new, & I'm 50 yrs old body wise, but 20 yrs old in spirit. Thank u for that. I truly mean it also. U have a great day or night. Looking forward to ur next video. Thanks for sharing & tell ur Mum & Dad Thank you for letting u share them with us. Best regards, Chris
Thanks Taow, you're a star! I've just started printing with a Reprap/Prusa hybrid I was given by a friend of a friend and didn't know which way to turn!
Straightforward and informative. Very nice.
This is by far the best video I have seen on the subject thanks!
I know this video is 3 years old now but I still found it helpful thank you
Nice one, thanks man! I always hated printing these temp towers and you really made my day with this approach!
Wow I've been printing for a couple years now and I guess I've been doing it the hard way. Nice tips
you mean all the yoda heads were printed with the same machine? and the results vary that much?! wow
I'm saving on a 3D printer right now and this is one of the things I need to learn
most helpful video ive seen yet today
Nice video! Good, quick and cheap method of testing your filaments.
Informative video!
Thanks man! Models look amazing now! still some issues around be I'm figuring things out
@TAOW, love the speed of the video and direct and to the point. Thanks for the posting and good info!
This was helpful w/ a newer version of CURA 3.x community.ultimaker.com/topic/21317-cura-31-change-at-height/
Mind you, the 15.x version is the OLDer version and @TAOW had the previous version.
dude,I've been watching your channel for a long time,keep up the good work.I've seen your growth in skills,weapons and ideas.
your the smartest kid ever, have you ever thought of a mini aquaponic system,? great video man
Sweet video! Thanks!
thank you. i havent seen any good video on how to tune settings but this will really help when i do the same thing in simplify3d.
Well presented, with great advice. Thank you!
This video should come stock with any 3D printer that one can purchase
Try baking your ABS filament in the oven for a bit. Should remove any moisture and may help with your layer adhesion.
great vid thank-you so much i've been looking for help like this
Thanks for the video! Just changed the PLA filament yesterday and my prints are pretty bad. The spiral vase cube is a great idea! I will try to find the right settings for this filament :)
Super useful tips. Would love to see what you make with a FormBox.
Thank you for this video, I am going to try it out.
thanks for this..... am about to get my first printer so this is a lot of help
Fantastic tutorial. Thank you for making this vid!
fast but i like it good video if you can not follow than pause and rewatch the area you dont understand fox. i like fast so no time wasting blah blah blah great work kid
thank you so much
Very helpful, if for nothing else than learning about TweakAtZ, to help adjust the flow rate. Thank you.
Great video! I just wanted to say congrats on your 3D printer again
Good idea for finding settings. Anthony over at The Hot End did a similar video using Simplify3D. Personally, I would find the perfect temperature before finding the extrusion multiplier, but that's just my opinion.
Thank you for the nice test and video!
Really nice method! Thank you
Thanks for this, was very useful. I was battling to get Verbatim PLA to print properly until now...
If you add 2 9mm Clip-on Ferrite Ring Core on each axis and the main power cable you will greatly reduce noise and ringing. Prints will come out smoother. Also adding 1 32x3 mm round n52 magnet completes for perfect walls.
The video was too fast for me and what I really would have liked is a copy of all of the specs you added as maybe a link. I tried to install Cura in 3 computers and after 8 installs I got one to work. I am not sure how you change the temperature or what plugin you used. The print was a total mess but I appreciate the effort and the ideas!
Very Nice... Have you tried using ABS juice to adhere to your print bed. I have found after 3 years of printing this works the best for me. The print sticks to the bed well and easy to remove. I have found printing planetary gears are a good measure of your printer. Another good project but a very involved one is the Imoov droid robot. A good place to get advice on your printer is 3D hubs printing community. Good luck with your printer enjoy.
Very good! Please could you do more videos like this - perhaps a little more slowly to allows time for these excellent ideas to settle into my rather slower moving brain😊❗️
One thing you might want to try, is putting a piece of paper on the base. It makes it insanely easier to pull off the finished project. Naturally, you want it to be taped flat and such. I know I've printed a few things that I would have never gotten off without snapping if I didn't have the paper.
+megamaxmax4 Glass plate with 3dlac. Once it's cooled down, the print just lifts off.
Thank you for the information.
you should try printing in different filaments. i know its not very original but if you where to use different filaments and integrate them into other projects then that would be cool.
an example of this would be using wood filament to print a low strength trigger mechanism that could have more pieces in it. it wouldn't be able to withstand a lot of force but would be a great example of this integration. or flexible fighting knives so they are totally safe and have bendy bevels.
Very good video! thanks for the help!
Can you upload the gcode for the Flowrate test, (And the scale ofc)?
Excellent video.
How can you print ABS at 120 degrees, i have to go way above 200 degrees?!
+telefon72 If you pause the video you can see his settings in Cura are actually around 230-255, i think he accidentally said 100 instead of 200. Having worked with 3D printers for many years i have found 230-235 to be the best temperature for most ABS filaments.
+telefon72 ammmmm 120°C
Pardon my ignorance, but perhaps he means 120°C? Are these programs in F or C?
tomaz1996 Yes exactly, i print with well over 200°C to get the ABS flowing.
telefon72 ups your right but than 120°F is about 250°C so maybe its in Fahrenheit
hi I like your work on lathe where did you learn to use do use any books to follow thanks
slow down THIS IS NOT A RACE!!
AGREED!!!! Very hard to keep up with the thoughts blazing by so fast!
Time is money! He have to pay for video :)
I actually prefer faster explanitations. the beauty of youtube tutorials is you can watch any part as many times as you like.
besides, if you have chrome you can get a video speed controler which allows you to fine tune the speed any video plays.
Buildings1772 i usually play my videos at 1.5 or 2x speed lol
Caffeine + Cocaine = 3D Test Print Video
Thank you for the info this will help a lot... do you know where i can get that plugin?
I'm planning on making an object that has various angles and curves to test settings. Might be overkill, but I have OCD, so I don't mind. I currently just look up recommended settings and write it on a sticker on each spool.
amazing and helpfull video. good job m8
Nice Video
helpful video, thanks bro.
AWSOME!!!! THANK YOU!!!
man!!! you're a genious!
So between the Yodas the only settings you changed were flow rate and temperature?
nice video. just ordered our first 3d printer and have no idea where to begin
Same here. This should help keep waste down
I just got a clone E3d V6 for my Anet A8 and I feel like the quality went down. Mostly detail and visible layer lines. Any suggestions?
120°C for ABS? That wouldn't even extrude PLA! You probably ment 220°C
And I would maybe adjust the temperature before touching the flow rate.
But it is a nice little Prusa youve got there nice build ;)
Great tip. But theoretically, there might be something wrong with this approach. You had to choose a temperature ad-hoc to do the flow-rate test. If you started with a different temperature, might you have found a different (better?) optimal flow-rate?
Hey, a bit off of what you're doing but it's still plastic. You should try out polymorph which is a mouldable plastic that you could use for your projects such as handles. Thanks
The information's you share are great BUT, slow your talking speed man !
Excellent video, very helpful, I'm about to buy a Prusa i3 kit to build from eBay, would you have any advise for me? I understand that the acrylic kits are not so good as they can warp with the heat.
Tried this method before and it does work but I have a gripe. The printer takes a while to change the hot ends temperature, sometimes the temperature is reached at the very end of the section with that temp. setting. This makes it hard to read where the temperature setting actually reached the setting specified. Having the ability to see what temperature your hot end is in real time makes it easy to catalog at what layer/height the temperatures in the settings are actually reached. That's the only way I can figure out what the actual temperature was at when the printer was producing good results.
Lol good job thanks a lot actually. This is a great tutorial
R2-D2 or a key-ring size handgun. Glock, 1911A1 Etc.
Great video. how about the pla test?
Hello Artof,
Is this printer accurate enough to make gauges, such as plate gauge? Or how about measuring tools? Or how about a obelisk or two with opening parts that could hold items?
If this is a bit too basic, then could it manage to print a gyroscope?
I realise that these suggestions aren't in keeping with your weapons theme but you could at lest use the rejects as targets!
Of course you could make scabbards for your knives too.
I imagine that one day all of this will lead to some "master-projects" where you use each of your workshop machines to make components that assemble into something amazing!
Ok this video is waaaaay better at 0.75 speed...try it now....really!
Can you speak a little faster????
If your on a pc just increase the speed in the settings
Ethan Schofield he was being sarcastic
no, i dont think he can speak faster
I tend to put videos at 1.5 speed because people speak to slow, this is perfect. No waste of time.
Wouldn't it be better if you do temp test first then flow rate?
which application are you using in this video to design 3d objects?
Excellent info in this video. You really helped me nail the temperature for my PLA in a quick, cheap and easy way.
I actually did the temperature test first which may be why when I tried to vary the flow rate from 107-97% there was almost no difference.
While this was fairly quick, it isn't something I want to do with 30 different spools. Do you think different colors of the same brand are going to use the same settings?
you dont have warping problem printing abs with a non enclosed printer ?
I think you hit puberty in this video mate. 😉😉
That voice drop doe
Excellent :)
Thank you so much for this
thank you!!
Hi, thanks for your video. How do you decide on the printing temperature when doing the flowrate test? These are quite connected to each other I would say.
How do you do this in Cura 2.3.1?
Would you mind sharing with us your g-code for the tower?
how to tell am i over extruding or under?
and how to tell i need higher temp or lower temp? thanks so much for reply
What kind of surface is your print bed? I want to say aluminum but can't tell...
Also, awesome review. I just got a smoothie 5x and I'm trying to get as much awesome out of it as I can. Up until now I've only done the 100 or 150 mm extrusion test.
What is the cad software he was using?
thats good advice :) but maybe you know how to make this in simplify3d ?
what version of cura are you using???
Sick man!
Hey thanks for sharing. Just curious about 7:05. Do you think the better layer fusion could be caused by the heated print bed? Maybe should try to flip the temperature profiles and see if you get a better adhesion at the top.
hi i was just wondering what software you use
Which Cura version are you using ?
What about pla temperature settings
any chanse u will post link to your stl for the cube ans setings be a nice file for people that carnt do ther own stl making
Do you have a gcode for that rectangle file?