The reason anamorphic lenses first got introduced to hollywood was because filmmakers had to start to compete with TV. The only differentiation at the time that they could think of was a wider frame. This started out by using wider film strips, but this meant resolution was lowered as 2 perf film is kind of like adding black bars now. So instead they tried making bigger film (65mm, and 70mm). However that was incredibly expensive for what most productions needed. So anamorphic meant you could use normal 35mm film in 4 perf, whilst getting a wider field of view. Originally, the anamorphic look was actually perceived as cheap by a lot of filmmakers, and stretched flares and oval bokeh was usually minimised by DP's. That's why if you watch a film like the original blade runner, you'll see absolutely no anamorphic flares at all, and for the most part, a very deep DOF
You also won’t see any anamorphic in Blade Runner sequel - Roger Deakins clearly said that he never use anamorphic. Yet he is one of the gratest cinematographers who uses…. How did Matti called them - boring lenses? ;-)
It is interesting that many of the "cinematic look" things are actually originally cost saving features, such as 24 fps. People have become used to them and now they are called. cinematic.
I just want to say this feels like a really really natural progression for Matti and his channel. He’s not chasing the newest trend, he’s just come to a point in his career where he’s looking for new avenues. It’s really nice to see him discovering new possibilities and not under the hand of sensationalism. He’s just having a good time. And so are we!
It’s a great contrast compared to when he did chase trends. I used to not enjoy him. I actually love his channel now. Feels way more authentic compared to a couple years ago.
Oh man, I love that in which direction your channel is drifting off and I'm starting to love your content again. Keep going and maybe very carefully consider once more time your next year YT break. Just less stuff but more quality 😊
Man I love it that you are stepping up your game. Plenty of Arri Mini’s on the market and not many tutorials. Cine lens videos will also be good for us Red users.
I've never learned so much about anamorphic lenses. Even though they are way over my budget (I'm saving for a Sony ZV-E10) they are very interesting. I'm curious about the film world so please, keep those videos coming ❤
The boring 'old' "perfect" lenses is why people still buy older lenses. They have such interesting characteristics to them. The Tamron 70-200mm has some really unique bokeh to it. And, of course you can look at Helios and also Lensbaby for different characteristics of lenses as well. This is why I love having adapters. And you see people adapt super weird lenses. One guy made a lens out of ice and managed to get a couple of shots with it before it melted. Hahaha. It was so cool!!
The Mercury’s compact form and 1.5 squeeze is fantastic for a light set up and 16:9 sensors. The lenses will give unique edge distortion when shooting full frame, especially open gate full frame. Basically the choice of shooting s35, full-frame, open gate, or large format will result in different looks suitable for different projects. A lot of versatility to experiment with! Thanks for the video Matti! We have entered a new golden age of anamorphic ☺️
Seriously! Just a couple years ago I was complaining that there are noooo anamorphics for the medium budget productions. Now we got tons! Even pretty affordable ones
Iron Glass makes the Helios 44-2 MKii with PL mount, that's the one they used on The Batman. Also in the market for Anamorphic and Atlas seem to be the best in the sub $10K range. Xelmus Apollos come close but are a bit more. Then straight to Cooke 2x. Saw the new Laowa Proteus at Cine Expo, pretty dope as well, but different from the Atlas
Love this video Matti! Your explanation of the anamorphic look was the best I've heard. I love the anamorphic look especially these Atlas lenses but they are well beyond my means. I have a Blackmagic 6K Pro with EF mount and a super 35 sensor. If you were in my shoes, which anamorphic lens(es) would buy? Thanks!
When anamorphic lenses were invented for surveillance purposes, movies were shot 4-perf 4:3 aspect ratio - the same as then TV as well. Well, movies wanted to differentiate themselves to stand OUT from the same TV image people could get in their homes, and used these to get the wider aspect ratio while using the same 4-perf film. TV was a box - but MOVIES were WIDESCREEN! The thing I love, more than anything else, isn't the bokeh, or the flares (both are nice, but not the REAL selling point for me), but the distinct separation from foreground to background. It really SEPARATES the subject from the background in a way most people just can't put their finger on. It really makes someone STAND OUT from their background.
I totally agree on the lens thing. I purposely have built out my lens kits to not be the newest lenses so there are some “imperfections” it excites me when i get an image that is unique (not perfect)
I can't believe Atlas jacked the price up to $8K - the preorder price was $5K and the final price was supposed to be $6K, but at the last minute they added a sly 2 grand lmfao. Otherwise amped to get one of these in my hands when they finally ship
Another thing to keep in mind, is the Mercury's cover full frame sensor, so would generally be a better fit with the Alexa LF, since you can shoot in open gate and wouldn't need to crop sides. The Orion's are super 35 coverage (plus a little more depending on taste) so match well with the Alexa35. You can definitely shoot full frame with them, and you'll gain a little more of the top and bottom, but they will vignette the full frame sensor, so additional cropping is required. All that being said, the Orion's are popular due to that 2x squeeze providing that classic super35 2x stretch the 70s made so so popular. Good luck with your purchase and your new Alexa!
@@mattih That true, expanders are still breaking my brain a bit! It's a pretty deep expander, but says it will wrok a treat on the LF, so that's pretty cool! You will loose a stop of light however.
Hey Matti You got a little typo ther in the title. One "s" too many. Just a heads up. I'll delete the comment right after you correct it so it doesn't look bad :)
Curious about what types of projects you do to justify this type of lens? Can you ever do some BTS on set for some of your higher end clients? All of this doesn't seem real. Like why buy $20,000 worth of glass?
@@mattih If the market allows it and you are good att branding yourself together with your own camera, sure. But it's not for everyone when there are rental houses avalible :)
Personally I have never gotten into anamorphic lenses, could be my 30 years as a photographer and I have just grown with spherical. But I absolutely despise anamorphic flair, it just takes me out of whatever I'm watching.
Not a fan of whoever shot your video. Too many quick pans. Very nauseating. First time I got sick watching a video of yours. Did you use a camera with terrible rolling shutter?
@@RedBukkit they make 5 different Alexa's and the Amira, hardly a quagmire of products to identify. I'm just saying it's not hard to do a little extrapolation. 😑
Who else is looking into Anamorphic Lenses? Any favourites you've found so far?
Laowa nanomorphs
The Atlas Mercury's look is the best I hoped for. Meanwhile, I'm watching the Moment 1.33x Anamorphic Lens Adapter!
Me 😊
Great joy 50mm and 85mm 1.8x stretch look pretty solid, especially the 85
Atlas lent me the 42mm for a music video and handing it back to them was like giving away a child
The reason anamorphic lenses first got introduced to hollywood was because filmmakers had to start to compete with TV. The only differentiation at the time that they could think of was a wider frame. This started out by using wider film strips, but this meant resolution was lowered as 2 perf film is kind of like adding black bars now. So instead they tried making bigger film (65mm, and 70mm). However that was incredibly expensive for what most productions needed. So anamorphic meant you could use normal 35mm film in 4 perf, whilst getting a wider field of view. Originally, the anamorphic look was actually perceived as cheap by a lot of filmmakers, and stretched flares and oval bokeh was usually minimised by DP's. That's why if you watch a film like the original blade runner, you'll see absolutely no anamorphic flares at all, and for the most part, a very deep DOF
You also won’t see any anamorphic in Blade Runner sequel - Roger Deakins clearly said that he never use anamorphic. Yet he is one of the gratest cinematographers who uses…. How did Matti called them - boring lenses? ;-)
Escape From New York has alot of blue flares
And they were introduced in tanks so that the operators could survey the landscape and acted as a less limited fov compared to regular lenses
Did not know this, that’s very interesting
It is interesting that many of the "cinematic look" things are actually originally cost saving features, such as 24 fps. People have become used to them and now they are called. cinematic.
I just want to say this feels like a really really natural progression for Matti and his channel. He’s not chasing the newest trend, he’s just come to a point in his career where he’s looking for new avenues. It’s really nice to see him discovering new possibilities and not under the hand of sensationalism. He’s just having a good time. And so are we!
I’m enjoying this a lot 😊 haven’t had this much fun with filmmaking in a loooong time.
It’s a great contrast compared to when he did chase trends. I used to not enjoy him. I actually love his channel now. Feels way more authentic compared to a couple years ago.
@@RiceCubeTech When you have an established audience you don't need to go after trends anymore.
These are cool. I want to remind everyone that Blue Ruin was shot on a c100 mark 1 with EF photo lenses.
Oh man, I love that in which direction your channel is drifting off and I'm starting to love your content again. Keep going and maybe very carefully consider once more time your next year YT break. Just less stuff but more quality 😊
Honestly those anamorphic flares looks so good 💯
They really doooo! I want spherical lenses with cool flares
Just shot on the RED V-Raptor VV XL and the Orion 50mm silver edition. MAN what a sweet combo!
Man I love it that you are stepping up your game. Plenty of Arri Mini’s on the market and not many tutorials. Cine lens videos will also be good for us Red users.
I've never learned so much about anamorphic lenses. Even though they are way over my budget (I'm saving for a Sony ZV-E10) they are very interesting. I'm curious about the film world so please, keep those videos coming ❤
The boring 'old' "perfect" lenses is why people still buy older lenses. They have such interesting characteristics to them. The Tamron 70-200mm has some really unique bokeh to it. And, of course you can look at Helios and also Lensbaby for different characteristics of lenses as well. This is why I love having adapters. And you see people adapt super weird lenses. One guy made a lens out of ice and managed to get a couple of shots with it before it melted. Hahaha. It was so cool!!
The Mercury’s compact form and 1.5 squeeze is fantastic for a light set up and 16:9 sensors. The lenses will give unique edge distortion when shooting full frame, especially open gate full frame. Basically the choice of shooting s35, full-frame, open gate, or large format will result in different looks suitable for different projects. A lot of versatility to experiment with! Thanks for the video Matti! We have entered a new golden age of anamorphic ☺️
Seriously! Just a couple years ago I was complaining that there are noooo anamorphics for the medium budget productions. Now we got tons! Even pretty affordable ones
Dang what a beast lens!
It’s a big boy 😂
Not sure if it’s even possible, but I’m excited for the day that someone makes compact 2x anamorphics for less than $1000 each…
Yea that would be wild! Wouldn’t be surprised if it happens tho haha
The first scene reminded me of Crocodile Dundee's one: "That's not a knife... THAT'S A KNIFE!" 😂
Iron Glass makes the Helios 44-2 MKii with PL mount, that's the one they used on The Batman. Also in the market for Anamorphic and Atlas seem to be the best in the sub $10K range. Xelmus Apollos come close but are a bit more. Then straight to Cooke 2x. Saw the new Laowa Proteus at Cine Expo, pretty dope as well, but different from the Atlas
Yea they are awesome!
Love this video Matti! Your explanation of the anamorphic look was the best I've heard. I love the anamorphic look especially these Atlas lenses but they are well beyond my means. I have a Blackmagic 6K Pro with EF mount and a super 35 sensor. If you were in my shoes, which anamorphic lens(es) would buy? Thanks!
The Anamorphic Lenses look very cinematic.
Veryyyy
When anamorphic lenses were invented for surveillance purposes, movies were shot 4-perf 4:3 aspect ratio - the same as then TV as well. Well, movies wanted to differentiate themselves to stand OUT from the same TV image people could get in their homes, and used these to get the wider aspect ratio while using the same 4-perf film. TV was a box - but MOVIES were WIDESCREEN!
The thing I love, more than anything else, isn't the bokeh, or the flares (both are nice, but not the REAL selling point for me), but the distinct separation from foreground to background. It really SEPARATES the subject from the background in a way most people just can't put their finger on. It really makes someone STAND OUT from their background.
Had my eye on these for some time - looking at pairing with an URSA 12K at some point over the next year. Gorgeous image!
You know Matti has gone to Pete, and he’s been like “bbbwhats ups Matti, let me show you my new Red” and Matti is like…”Here, hold my beer”
Whoops 😂
I got to build out the arri 35 yesterday and picked the atlas orian for it and man its fun.
Beast!
Loving my sirui 35mm x 75mm 1.6 FF anamorphics. Makes me not want to use spherical as much.
So fun!
Looks awesome
Bug ups for Tyler sporting the Oklahoma sweatshirt.
Hey man. Thought you’d like to know Greg Frasier is currently shooting his next feature on an FX3 and Atlas Orions.
I totally agree on the lens thing. I purposely have built out my lens kits to not be the newest lenses so there are some “imperfections” it excites me when i get an image that is unique (not perfect)
Great timing, the FX3 just got anamorphic desqueeze in the 3.0 update 😊
You should try the Glaswerk anamorphic. Very rare and close if not almost Cooke look.
I can't believe Atlas jacked the price up to $8K - the preorder price was $5K and the final price was supposed to be $6K, but at the last minute they added a sly 2 grand lmfao. Otherwise amped to get one of these in my hands when they finally ship
Good day. Please tell me which adapter do I need to install atlas orion pl on sony fx6? And will everything work correctly?
What Pl adapter are you using on the fx3?
I'm from Oklahoma so it's great to see that OU hoodie
Another thing to keep in mind, is the Mercury's cover full frame sensor, so would generally be a better fit with the Alexa LF, since you can shoot in open gate and wouldn't need to crop sides. The Orion's are super 35 coverage (plus a little more depending on taste) so match well with the Alexa35. You can definitely shoot full frame with them, and you'll gain a little more of the top and bottom, but they will vignette the full frame sensor, so additional cropping is required. All that being said, the Orion's are popular due to that 2x squeeze providing that classic super35 2x stretch the 70s made so so popular. Good luck with your purchase and your new Alexa!
Yep for sure! They have extenders tho that you can use the orions with also
@@mattih That true, expanders are still breaking my brain a bit! It's a pretty deep expander, but says it will wrok a treat on the LF, so that's pretty cool! You will loose a stop of light however.
This is such s cool video! thank you for sharing
I used to love kung Foo movie in Unstreatched anamorphic
I think you should go for Venice 2 instead of Arri since you are already on Sony
Too late haha
Ohhh i love wider screen.. it actually makes model looks great. Am I right? 😅
The fx3 has just got v3.00 update and now has support for desqueeze and DCI 4K and 24fps
Caleb and matti great minds thumbnail alike
Got a Vazen 40mm recently.. the poor mans Orion lol
Matti is married to the term “cinematic”
I always wanted to own a 2x anamorphic lens but I need to find the camera that can shoot 4:3 open gates first lol, like gh6 or something else.
Right??? 😂
Why would you buy these or an Arri when you can just easily rent them for your project?
Coo”!✌️
Ya gotta watch your audio levels dude
Big fan ❤ sir 😊
try the panavision one 😅😅
Hey Matti
You got a little typo ther in the title. One "s" too many.
Just a heads up.
I'll delete the comment right after you correct it so it doesn't look bad :)
Clicked the link and watched the video already knowing I can't afford the lens.
You have so much stuff, Don’t you make any movies besides lens review?
Maybe one day Panavision will change their business model and allow their lenses to be sold instead of only being rented. LOL
Curious about what types of projects you do to justify this type of lens? Can you ever do some BTS on set for some of your higher end clients? All of this doesn't seem real. Like why buy $20,000 worth of glass?
Why buy when you can rent?
Why rent when you can buy
@@mattih If the market allows it and you are good att branding yourself together with your own camera, sure. But it's not for everyone when there are rental houses avalible :)
who's laughing now after The Creator trailer dropped😎
Even i want one, and all I do is make bike videos lol
can i borrow it for a week ? i beg you 😢😂
😂 not up to meeee
@@mattih 😭😭
Personally I have never gotten into anamorphic lenses, could be my 30 years as a photographer and I have just grown with spherical. But I absolutely despise anamorphic flair, it just takes me out of whatever I'm watching.
ARRI not AIR-RY
Actually I was told by someone who worked there that it’s “Air-ry” in North America and “Ar-ri” in europe. So actually both are right.
80% lens.... 20% camera🤔, sounds like my sigma 18-35 with my Canon M6 Mark II 😅
Not a fan of whoever shot your video. Too many quick pans. Very nauseating. First time I got sick watching a video of yours. Did you use a camera with terrible rolling shutter?
Bro said affordable 😅 I’ll get there in time…
Affordable 😂
talking about mercury but showing orion... :p
The first comment
"Everyone" I don't think so.
$40k and you say "it's affordable"? Really.....
It's a baseball bat. But a very nice one.
LOL
Wash your own spoon.
please don't call it the arri 35, it's an alexa 35. thx
Oh calm down a little! Everyone in the camera world knows who Arri is and what their line up is, we know what he meant. Just enjoy his excitement 🙂
@@snaprifice so you go around telling everyone about your great “apple 14” instead of a MacBook hahaha
@@RedBukkit they make 5 different Alexa's and the Amira, hardly a quagmire of products to identify. I'm just saying it's not hard to do a little extrapolation. 😑