The magic of the DOD 250 Overdrive Preamp in Yngwie Malmsteen's tone with AMP1 and Thomas Blug!

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  • @yjmsrv
    @yjmsrv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Something that would help sound more "Yngwie" is to use an Boss NS-2 and throw a bit of reverb in the mix- he always has reverb at the desk and it really helps. Also- the HS3 or even the new YJM pickups are really part of it too as you mention. He also didn't use a "Plexi" pretty much ever- he uses Marshall 50 watt 1987 MK II's almost exclusively until his YJM came out- so I think your Classic channel would get there closer then the Vintage channel. I find the Vintage channel much less bright and tight- which I think is a big part of the difference here- more so even then the pickups. I use the Classic channel and a 250 and it's really, really close. He always uses 75 watt speakers so it stays tight.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are right that there are more little details that sim up to get closer to his Tone. All the things like the right pickups are essential, Reverb is essential, speakers are essential then we could get even closer dialing in the controls on AMP1 … there’s room for improvements… But I don’t have all that gear at this point… maybe a topic to revisit when I have it…

  • @Nghilifa
    @Nghilifa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sounds great! Very organic sounding setup indeed.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed - we're not surprised Yngwie loves it so much!

  • @vincentgarzoli3197
    @vincentgarzoli3197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am not up-to-date on what seem to me like simulators such as the Amp-1, but listening to this video my takeaway is that the first input with the clean sound on the Amp-1 with (and without) the DOD pedal was closer to the classic Yngwie mid-80s tone. The second input (plexi/vintage Marshall) with the DOD pedal was a little muddy, almost scooped sounding like everyone else from the 80s, except Yngwie. Probably just a matter of one's individual ear and taste.
    Also, if I am not mistaken, I think there was a period in the early years of Rising Force (post-Alcatrazz) when he was using a splitter to sort of obtain a bi-amped sound with some of his Marshalls emphasizing low and low-mids, while others would favor upper mids and high frequencies. That set-up was also mostly low on gain helping him achieve an almost acoustic clean sound when he had the pedal off and the guitar volume low, then when he kicked in the preamp pedal and raised the guitar volume to 10 he would get that compressed sweet distortion while retaining those almost woody, violin-like sounds. I bring this up because it may be worth a try to split the signal from the pedal into either both of those inputs of the Amp-1 (if you can use or blend both sounds simultaneously), or into two Amp-1 devices (one with thee first clean sound, and the other with the plexi/vintage tone) and see if that yields the best of all worlds Malmsteen.....

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting thoughts. We all hear tones a little differently, as you say, and in the room it sounds different again! Definitely ballpark Yngwie though - of course you actually need to be Yngwie to sound 100% like him ;) We'll give your other suggestions a try and see how they go! It's always great to get tips like this and try out new things :) Rock on!

    • @stratking78
      @stratking78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear Vincent, the Amp1 is a true tube amp, no simulator 😊

    • @kojak345
      @kojak345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stratking78 yes a one preamp tube is full tube amp…

    • @curtisprice9806
      @curtisprice9806 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kojak345 lol 😂 !!!! Not on your life ....ha, ha, ha!!!! Get your 12ax7 here, and rule the amp kingdom lol 😂 !!!

    • @poulwinther
      @poulwinther 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kojak345 It's not a preamp tube - at least try to understand it before criticizing.

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great demo! Great playing and tone. Those old DODs were great. I didn't care for the line they released in the 80s at all and mostly used Boss, Tube Screamers, and MXR pedals back then. I had a plexi in the 80s and one of my strats had stacked DiMarzio single coils. It sounded great together. Your amps are incredible and totally nail every kind of tone.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On DODs : Agreed!!!! Thank you so much!!!

  • @vintagesounds5150
    @vintagesounds5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Thomas 🍻🍻🍻Thanks for all your Knowledge!🎶🎶🎸☮️

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure 😇!!!

  • @bigstick5278
    @bigstick5278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a MXR The Distortion+ with Silicon diodes appose to the MXR's Germanium.
    Same circuit.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is indeed!

  • @michaelmitchell5909
    @michaelmitchell5909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely love my amp 1 iridium pedal amp!. I use a Seymour duncan 805 on pedal in front of it and the vintage channel sounds freakin amazing!.....I have an older peavey 4x12 cab with eminence speakers that I use the iridium with.....I like this setup better than the mesa dual rec head and matching cab I used to have!. I want to try some different overdrive pedals with it now.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like a great setup Michael, and yes, get some other drives in front of your iridium and see how they go! That's always a fun thing to do...

    • @InTheSh8
      @InTheSh8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, can you explain what is so special about the SD 805 OD? Also the Ytuber Soulhenge uses it to boost his amps. What are the differences to the tubescreamer and its clones?

    • @michaelmitchell5909
      @michaelmitchell5909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@InTheSh8 ....kinda hard to explain man. All.incan say is I've tried the tube screamers, the SD 1, and others and couldn't find what I like until I tried the SD 805.

  • @migueloscar
    @migueloscar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Owning both the yellow reissue and the YJM308 I find that the later has more high end and gain, YJM Fender signature pedal is very similar to the 308

  • @curtisprice9806
    @curtisprice9806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    😂 lol.....very very true! Killer magical distortion coming from just a few electrical parts inside the DOD 250 👍✌️

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, they certainly got it right with this one!

  • @larsfocken3456
    @larsfocken3456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Check out the JHS Pedals video The Legend of the DOD 250 !

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have! It's a great documentary of the pedal and its history, and actually inspired us in releasing this video :)

  • @MikkaGrytviken
    @MikkaGrytviken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi ! What's your opinion about the 4700/5000 pf bright cap on the Marshall Plexi bright channel volume.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends on how Lo you turn the volume…
      Treble bleed is all about the sweetspot, that depends on the guitar/pickups and volume settings… I prefer smaller values the lower the volume settings…

    • @MikkaGrytviken
      @MikkaGrytviken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @BluGuitar - Tone Innovation For Guitarists Thank you for your answer ! Pete Thorn recently said on a demo that a currently prefer the 4700pf/5000pf value that gives more high mids. That's true it makes lower gain settings sounding thin but who plays a Marshall clean ? 😉

    • @sveniegalus
      @sveniegalus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BluGuitar Hy Tom , me again , remember Röhre Moers with Go Music Martin E. and M.v.B talkin fachsimpeln at the bar ? ;-) Yes its right Noah Berryman is right is not asymmetrical clipping like the Boss orange DS1 . Its symmetrical just 2 Diodes one up one down back to back sending part of the signal to ground at the end of the curcuit before the 100
      k Vol Pot. The TS 9 or 808 has the Diodes at the Feedback Loop next to the JRC4558, Bernd C,Meiser würde sagen der Fußpunkt .When
      it comes to DOD 250s i am totally into it, I got a gray 1980, a yellow 81 , 3 of the Reissues, modded 2 of em to 1978 with Ceramic disc caps for input and gain cap. The later film caps sound a bit different, ceramic disc being brighter. One I modelled to the 1981 yellow version with 1nF as inputcap, instead of the former and later 10nF like. Just the Malmsteen sig Pedal the 308 seems to recreate it got 1nF as input cap as well, the 1981 had the Texas Instruments TL081 CP, not the LM741 chip , but the input cap makes the difference
      . They all sound a bit different. And Yes the Marshalls 5nF Bright Cap is good for low Volumes, just try and desolder one side at the Vol pot you will soon feel its to dull and solder it in again to bring that thing alive again. Yngwie always plays the Marshalls Volume at 10 !!!! so the Brightcap will not play such a big role for his sound.But you can always keep the volume low at the Pedalboard or the DODs Level knob and blast it with a TS9 for making it fatter for keepin up for the input drive volume loss! I know that infos from Santiago Alvarez, the man !!!!!! And he told me that Yngwie gave him a DOD 308 not an old one for build into his Signature Amp the YJM 100. but there was a 1981 version of the DOD 250 that got already the 1 nF as input cap !!!!

  • @poulwinther
    @poulwinther 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool! I think the pedal is simple enough to make as part of Amp X std. config. 😀

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now that's an idea 😉

  • @mrpinch1
    @mrpinch1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved that , thought I heard the Island In The Sun riff somewhere ?

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was the first song I heard with Ingwie on guitar… must be stuck in my head.. 😂

    • @mrpinch1
      @mrpinch1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BluGuitar Brilliant ! 🎸😊

  • @stephanmaas4634
    @stephanmaas4634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Moin,hört sich mal gut an das Pedal,werde es mal an meinem alten Marshall Valvestate hängen 😁🤘

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wird geil klingen!

    • @stephanmaas4634
      @stephanmaas4634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BluGuitar Uff jeede Fall 😁 Hab aber den Harley Benton DNAFX schon eingeschleift so dass der Valvestate Sound nicht verfälscht wird und auch supie,befass mich ja seit kürzlich erst mit Modelern etc. Seit 30 Jahren nur analog,da muss ich noch mal neu lernen 🤣 Aber gut dass du dran geblieben bist 😁 Grüsse 🤘

  • @stratking78
    @stratking78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mr. Ritchie BLUmore meets Mr. Y. J. BLUGsteen 😉😁😊🤘🎸🎵

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Genau 😉

  • @johnmcminn9455
    @johnmcminn9455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol that is the first pedal I ever owned in 1980 I think that yellow and black box was the only distortion you could get back then.
    now Behringer makes a Direct Box that sounds l Iike a plexi

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, a lot has changed since then! But we still love this little box :)

  • @alienlovesecrets9379
    @alienlovesecrets9379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Thomas. How do you increase volume independetly from gain/overdrive for solos?

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With a minus booster or a volume pedal! Check out our short Blugipedia article on how to do it here: support.bluguitar.com/en_US/amp1-mercury-edition/2nd-master-volume-ohne-remote1-oder-midi

    • @alienlovesecrets9379
      @alienlovesecrets9379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BluGuitar Perfect! The article answers everything, thanks!

  • @DadoSimicStudiostriver
    @DadoSimicStudiostriver 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Malmsteen is not using humbuckers in single coils format, those are singles, but it was designed by Seymour Duncan to reproduce less noise hum, Malmsteen stated many times he never liked sounds of stacked singles so they look like singles but sound like humbucker. Before that he used classic Di Marzio that were on factory setting by Fender.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I prefer single coils too for their definition, and have.the gain of pedals and/or amps have doing the job…

    • @ztevie.j
      @ztevie.j 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But... I'm pretty sure the fury's are stacked? Google it... How else would they be hum-canceling?

    • @DadoSimicStudiostriver
      @DadoSimicStudiostriver 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ztevie.j Latest one are stacked, my bad. They were started as pure single coils , then shifted to stacked. He stated for years companies were making them stacked and he didnt like the sound.
      Duncan made him one that do not sacriface the sound , but that is hard to argue.
      Yngwie from 2020 is not the same one from 1984. People and tastes are changing.

    • @ztevie.j
      @ztevie.j 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DadoSimicStudiostriver Yeah. I think I've heard Yngwie claim in an interview that it was he that told DiMarzio that they should stack coils on top of each other and that's when they made the HS3...
      But I'm pretty sure stacked singlecoils existed before that, hehe.... I doubt he was behind the invention.

    • @DadoSimicStudiostriver
      @DadoSimicStudiostriver 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ztevie.j Of coruse they existed, he just didnt like the result and how the pickups sounds with that process.
      Duncans kind a made them sound like single coils even they are not.
      The only difference which Yngwie mentioned is that they sound slightly warmer compare to true single, which is essentialy what humbucker do to the sound. ;)

  • @yngwerhappen
    @yngwerhappen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ich bin mir immer noch nicht sicher, ob der Iridium meine Ohren austricksen kann:-D ich komme vom Bass und spiele seit 14 dieses neoclassical Malmsteen Zeug seit 36 Jahren. Das setzte ich gerade seit 3 Monaten auf der Charvel um. Vom Gewicht- und Platzbedarf ist der Iridium unschlagbar mit einer Nano. Da ich auch in der Wohnung leise spielen möchte, muss meine ich die Box gut ansprechen für diese Staccato Zeug. Im Proberaum soll es mit einem Drummer mithalten können. Ich mag den DSL Marshall Sound wegen der Hochmitten und brauche auch nicht den fetten Metalbass. Bis zum 1. ist nicht mehr lange hin. Dann kann ich bestellen. Und testen. Der kleine JVM Combo mit 1x12 und 50 Watt wäre eine Alternative. Ab dann wird es zu schwer die schmale Treppe ins 2. OG. Was mit einer Nano...

    • @yngwerhappen
      @yngwerhappen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Für extra Pedale ist in meinem Wohnzimmer kein Platz. Da müsste der Iridium vom Gain reichen. Mehr Gadgets brauche ich im Moment nicht, sondern nur mehr Sauberkeit auf der Gitarre ;-)

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probiere den AMP1 Iridium einfach aus!
      Du hast be uns direkt oder Thomann 30 Tage Rückgaberecht. Für die Wohnung tut es die Nanocab, Für Bühne oder Proberaum brauchst Du mindestens eine Fatcab um genug tighten Lärm machen zu können…

  • @KingV82
    @KingV82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does it sound in bedroom level setting? Is it still too loud even at half power mode?

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AMP1 sounds so rich even at lowest volume…
      It’s more a problem if your speaker at this low volume. Our cabinets have special lightweight membranes to sound more alive at lo volume and they don’t sizzle when played a lo volume, like vintage greenbacks…! ;-)

  • @notalkguitarampplug-insrev784
    @notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will you be able to have your nano tube made in Germany instead of Russia? Thanks

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that would be possible. However, if it does come to a situation where we need to get the nanotube built elsewhere, it would most likely be China.

  • @Cobbath
    @Cobbath ปีที่แล้ว

    Question is: Can you only get this tone on the Mercury version of the Amp1 or can you also get it using the Iridium?

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did the episode on Mercury, Iridium is possible too in the vintage channel with slightly more aggressiveness

    • @Cobbath
      @Cobbath ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BluGuitar Thank you for the reply back! It's amazing it's possible on the Iridium. Getting really close to getting one just because how amazing that Vintage channel is on the Iridium with all the other videos I've seen. Especially with Euge, nailing the John Sykes/ Jake E. Lee meets early days Zakk Wylde tone with that channel.

  • @liys540
    @liys540 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though there's a dummy coil pickup in your 61 strat , the hum this here when the pedal turn on

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure ! …as a dummy coil only reduces the hum, it’s not canceling 100% - it’s not possible with that, since the coils are to far from each other…

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How's the AMP-X going, by the way? It's been a while since I last heard any news about it.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      3.6.22 Namm is Release

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BluGuitar Excellent, thanks!

  • @jedimindfrak82
    @jedimindfrak82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The DOD 250 is definitely NOT asymmetrically clipped. It has 2 1N4148 silicon diodes, they clip the signal evenly. That's why the 250 is crunchy and not smooth.

  • @EricTViking
    @EricTViking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got Tetanus from looking at that scratchplate.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ha ha, don't worry, Thomas has had all his shots - plus it's been cleaned since this was shot ;)

  • @InTheSh8
    @InTheSh8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a bit out of the whole guitar business. One thing I don't understand is, why Paul Gilbert would play a Yamaha THR10 although devices like yours are available all over the place. I have the THR10 but I don't think it can compete with your stuff.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, the Yamaha THRs are great amps, we do have to say that... and one advantage is they have a built-in speaker, and the AMP1 doesn't. So in that sense, they could be seen as being one step easier for backstage practice to warm up before a show or whatever. Also, Paul has done a lot of official advertising with Yamaha and the THR range, so we're pretty sure it's an official agreement and money is involved. But yes, overall... we'd love it if he tried an AMP1 as well ;) Cheers!

    • @InTheSh8
      @InTheSh8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BluGuitar Yes, right, I totally forgot about the speakers. The way the THR 10V2 reacts to playing is kinda cool. The British sound is really great on the device. HiGain (Mesa) not really (this is what I bought it for, years ago. Also the clean model doesn't really sound nice with distortion pedals. They also seem to have used quite old Line-6 sounds (I think they had a liaison at that time up until, now). Yeah, you're right, for what it is, it is good. The newer models will definitely also deliver more sonically in terms of better IRs computing power. It is a good monitoring solution, even for mixing and trying out 3rd party VSTs. Really great of you to take time and answer stuff.

  • @liys540
    @liys540 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually, he used dod 250 grey model in the past

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info!

  • @stratking78
    @stratking78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Der BSM Fireball daneben hätte den DOD-250 gaaanz alt aussehen lassen 👍🏻😁🤘🎸🎵🎶 BERNDs SUPER MACHINES 🤘

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rock n roll! 🤘

  • @zenn69hendrix
    @zenn69hendrix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "basically nothing" lol

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha ha, it's kind of true though!

    • @poulwinther
      @poulwinther 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      According to Yngwie more is more though. I see where he's coming from....

    • @totallyunmemorable
      @totallyunmemorable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And it's like just the worst sounding thing . . . until you put it in front of a distorted amp. Then it's like WTF?!

  • @Gohanndes1
    @Gohanndes1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before his signature pickups, Yngwie used DiMarzio FS1 's (which were not noise cancelling) and Celestion G12T-75 in his cabs.

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the detailed information!!!!!

    • @brandonvoortwijs1382
      @brandonvoortwijs1382 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, Yngwie used DiMarzio HS-3

    • @ztevie.j
      @ztevie.j 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@brandonvoortwijs1382Op is right. The very first pickups he played was FS1. He had them when he came to America, but quickly changed to hs3 because of the noise, especially since he started playing bigger venues with much louder volume.

  • @blackforestbeamer
    @blackforestbeamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    klingt schön fett! manchmal tutś mir echt leid meinen Amp1 auf lächerliche Zimmerlautstärke fahren zu können😭

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ja, das ist schade! Master auf 5 oder 6 klingt noch besser wenn möglich 😉

    • @blackforestbeamer
      @blackforestbeamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BluGuitar ja hab schon den Mercury auf halbe Leistung und halbes Gain, klingt zwar auch leise geil an einer 1x12, aber lieber wäre es mir schon mal das volle potential aus zu schöpfen

  • @stevetamv68
    @stevetamv68 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Thomas Blu... You would probably get a CLEANER sound/tone if you took the 3 inches of muck off YOUR STRAT!!!

    • @BluGuitar
      @BluGuitar  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would probably be too clean for me…
      I like my Tone on the edge of break up too…
      ;-)