That is a beautiful point about the state of TvP "When Terran has a terrible early game they transition to the mid game. When Protoss has a terrible early game they gg."
Depends on which Protoss player tbh. MaxPax make you work for it and if he has an advantage, you’re basically dead. Same for Trap and Stats. HerO fluctuates a lil and ShowTime builds his 7th Nexus when he’s ahead. Astrea would be teching when he’s ahead too often, giving opponents time to catch up and counter
@@DanielSonghere1454 To piggy back your point, Protoss doesn't have a way to capitalize on earning a lead that isn't Blink stalkers, and a push for a win by outrunning Terran to lategame using stalker pressure to keep the bio/tank to subcritical supply or denying expansions. Showtime builds those extra nexus because Protoss has no way to punish, no way to end the game without overwhelming economic advantage, they have no efficient midgame fighting compositions against Terran, it's all heavy gas robo, too expensive to push the advantage. Astrea techs up because he knows you aren't winning with gateway, unless you've got MaxPax or Parting level blink stalker micro, so he techs and the Terran mules their way back into the game and he tries to win with amazing storms. Protoss don't fail to end the game because they're bad players, they do it because Protoss is a bad race against Terran, without tools to fight that aren't hard countered by Vikings or Ghosts, specifically.
As a Terran main, it's true. Terran and Zerg can argue about who's the strongest, Protoss can't argue. Also, the only reason Protoss is weak is because it's the most popular race. What does that tell the majority of players?
7:35 Sometimes Lowko's giving a really hilarious reaction. Even if not being a Starcraft II caster, I think he will be excellent as a gamer TH-camr in general.
13:30 French is the only language that pokemon got 100% localized since gen 1. Asside from english obviously. So, instead of just pronouncing the english names like everyone else got, They all have their own pun names to match the style given in english but with full french context and culture. And it all only happened because the nintendoEU localisation team leader put in charge of the game was french and he did the whole thing himself because he cared more about how it would feel to play the games that way rather than not getting paid for the insane amount of overtime it took.
Funny, and thanks for sharing. ... Although I strongly doubt it was an "insance" amount of overtime. Gen1 is a small number of pokemons. In most cases, finding a translation is not hard. E.g. if you already have the English version at hand, and it happened to fit, English being 33% French. French is partially English too, also it's not as poorly understood as we pretend, therefore in some cases he kept pure English and that went fine.
@huyxiun2085 i think the translation job was done in about 2 weeks for all of europe (so spanish, german and italian going on at the sams time as this on this 1 team). I don't remember if this was interviews or if this is recorded on a wiki page, but it's what's I remember. To your second point. Translation doesn't work that way. Even when words have the same root in different languages they end up having slightly different meanings and get used differently in the sentence structure. When you do translation you rewrite everything. Unless you're in Quebec, then you do a word for word transposition... But they're the odd one out. But yes they worked from the english localisation not from japanese.
Well, as much as terran is too good right now it does make sense. Probes have regenerative shield, Zerg units heal over time and SCVs have more HP and can repair . What's not right tho is that the oracle was nerfed against terrans because oracles could be fast proxied in a certain patch without a counter from the terran player
@@ludovicgomessilva404 That's a massive copium answer... I'm not saying you believe it to your core and it's your whole personality. But I see that comment in many places and the justification of the SCV vulnerable during building or not having natural regen just doesn't stick. There are loads of other parts in the game that have that kind of asymmetry that aren't balanced by a sledgehammer... The SCV is a whole 12.5% tankier 🤷♂️. And it doesn't just affect oracles, it's adepts and banshees too. And most of the other harass vs light dmg units. It's much less noticeable with the reaper and the ling because it's not 2 hits. But it's still there. The baneling and the hellion are unaffected because they are intended to leave probes and drones at 1hp to take an extra hit. And terran is the race that has the easiest time building a full wall... I'm not advocating that it should be changed because I'm not sure what the real impact would be in the current balance. It's probably really small. But the reasons people keep repeating for the existence of this difference are not well researched.
@@SquintyGears SCVs used to be 60HP in BW. Oracles and adepts used to two hit them back in the early days of LOTV. Those changes to both units were made because of specific cheeses against terrans early game that barely had a counter. I've been playing since 2010 and am GM in both P and T on the Korean and European server. This isn't copium this is straight up FACTS that were justified by the old balance team in early LotV. Do not look for explanations where there is already one.
@@SquintyGearswhat a terribly short sighted and poorly researched comment. In a straight up fight an SCV would lose to drone or probe if they all had 40 health. Even now pros have to trade out scvs because of probe shield micro. Please learn the game before embarrassing yourself 🤡
The problem with that Protoss push at 18:00. Classic warped in a reinforcing round of Zealots and suicided them to chase down stutter stepping marines into siege tank fire, managed to kill a bunch of vikings with his original zealots, and then ultimately suicided them in the exact same way.
If the UED shows up in the Koprulu Sector, there's a chance that they could also make cyclones. Unless, of course, they make any of them in China, Korea, or Japan, as those would be called Typhoons instead. 😜
I am surprised at that I did not see much Cyclon use after they became expendable marine spamm 2.0. Fortunately out of the few good changes Cyclon is back to the former expensive but interesting form.
In dia1 m3 mmr it seems like the cyclones are buffed in this new patch. Maybe I havnt figured out how to deal with them but they out range a tank with lock on, and are faster than any protoss unit. What's the counter?
They really do need to move the 3 pt line back another 14". Obviously can't move the sides so the corner 3 would still be a higher percentage shot but good god, when teams are taking way more 3s than 2s, we need the NBA balance council to get their ish together 😂
Genuinely, stop, we've already seen post patch PVT and PVZ games, and there's only been a single 1 base all in, and that's because Serral had already won the first 2 of 5. Just because bronze and silver league players don't have an instant "I win" button against early game raiding and attacks doesn't mean the race is unviable now. It means you actually have to SCOUT your opponent, and guess what, you suddenly have the prefect unit/ability combo to do it, with a hallucinated phoenix, because your going to build a sentry anyway in 99% of all protoss builds. Or you know, don't, and complain on the forums that Blizzard might as well get it over with and just completely patch out the Protoss as a race.
First of all original name are in japanese. Second: English name are garbage, they mean nothing to french people. Last: German pokemon, chinese, korean, etc., have their own name and i don't see you complain about them. So gtfo of here !
"So much utility in Terran units compared to that of protoss" Man, he held that ramp with SCVs on hold position. Protoss can do that too, they just don't. What you gonna do, nerf SCVs ? This balance talk is getting ridiculous.
Every single Terran unit has long range, this alone is a massive advantage vs both Protoss and Zerg. The best thing will be to make Marine target only ground, and have Marauders target ground and air instead, and also then change 1-2 of their units to be melee only to have a semblance of balance in utility.
That is a beautiful point about the state of TvP "When Terran has a terrible early game they transition to the mid game. When Protoss has a terrible early game they gg."
Depends on which Protoss player tbh. MaxPax make you work for it and if he has an advantage, you’re basically dead. Same for Trap and Stats.
HerO fluctuates a lil and ShowTime builds his 7th Nexus when he’s ahead. Astrea would be teching when he’s ahead too often, giving opponents time to catch up and counter
@@DanielSonghere1454 To piggy back your point, Protoss doesn't have a way to capitalize on earning a lead that isn't Blink stalkers, and a push for a win by outrunning Terran to lategame using stalker pressure to keep the bio/tank to subcritical supply or denying expansions.
Showtime builds those extra nexus because Protoss has no way to punish, no way to end the game without overwhelming economic advantage, they have no efficient midgame fighting compositions against Terran, it's all heavy gas robo, too expensive to push the advantage. Astrea techs up because he knows you aren't winning with gateway, unless you've got MaxPax or Parting level blink stalker micro, so he techs and the Terran mules their way back into the game and he tries to win with amazing storms.
Protoss don't fail to end the game because they're bad players, they do it because Protoss is a bad race against Terran, without tools to fight that aren't hard countered by Vikings or Ghosts, specifically.
As a Terran main, it's true.
Terran and Zerg can argue about who's the strongest, Protoss can't argue. Also, the only reason Protoss is weak is because it's the most popular race. What does that tell the majority of players?
@@ryanhefner2011 That's not true, Protoss can also argue whether Terrrans or Zergs are the strongest! :D
@@ryanhefner2011Terran is the most popular race though.
7:35 Sometimes Lowko's giving a really hilarious reaction. Even if not being a Starcraft II caster, I think he will be excellent as a gamer TH-camr in general.
Well do I have a channel for you. It's called morelowko 😂
13:30 French is the only language that pokemon got 100% localized since gen 1. Asside from english obviously. So, instead of just pronouncing the english names like everyone else got,
They all have their own pun names to match the style given in english but with full french context and culture.
And it all only happened because the nintendoEU localisation team leader put in charge of the game was french and he did the whole thing himself because he cared more about how it would feel to play the games that way rather than not getting paid for the insane amount of overtime it took.
Funny, and thanks for sharing.
... Although I strongly doubt it was an "insance" amount of overtime.
Gen1 is a small number of pokemons. In most cases, finding a translation is not hard. E.g. if you already have the English version at hand, and it happened to fit, English being 33% French. French is partially English too, also it's not as poorly understood as we pretend, therefore in some cases he kept pure English and that went fine.
@huyxiun2085 i think the translation job was done in about 2 weeks for all of europe (so spanish, german and italian going on at the sams time as this on this 1 team). I don't remember if this was interviews or if this is recorded on a wiki page, but it's what's I remember.
To your second point. Translation doesn't work that way. Even when words have the same root in different languages they end up having slightly different meanings and get used differently in the sentence structure. When you do translation you rewrite everything. Unless you're in Quebec, then you do a word for word transposition... But they're the odd one out.
But yes they worked from the english localisation not from japanese.
At the third game, it felt stupid that oracle needed 3 hits to kill the SCV.
ITS funny, eh, toss and zerg woker 40 HP
Terran 45 HP
When i was new, and Just learned about it i thought Like .. wtf
Well, as much as terran is too good right now it does make sense. Probes have regenerative shield, Zerg units heal over time and SCVs have more HP and can repair .
What's not right tho is that the oracle was nerfed against terrans because oracles could be fast proxied in a certain patch without a counter from the terran player
@@ludovicgomessilva404
That's a massive copium answer... I'm not saying you believe it to your core and it's your whole personality. But I see that comment in many places and the justification of the SCV vulnerable during building or not having natural regen just doesn't stick. There are loads of other parts in the game that have that kind of asymmetry that aren't balanced by a sledgehammer... The SCV is a whole 12.5% tankier 🤷♂️.
And it doesn't just affect oracles, it's adepts and banshees too. And most of the other harass vs light dmg units. It's much less noticeable with the reaper and the ling because it's not 2 hits. But it's still there.
The baneling and the hellion are unaffected because they are intended to leave probes and drones at 1hp to take an extra hit.
And terran is the race that has the easiest time building a full wall...
I'm not advocating that it should be changed because I'm not sure what the real impact would be in the current balance. It's probably really small. But the reasons people keep repeating for the existence of this difference are not well researched.
@@SquintyGears SCVs used to be 60HP in BW. Oracles and adepts used to two hit them back in the early days of LOTV. Those changes to both units were made because of specific cheeses against terrans early game that barely had a counter.
I've been playing since 2010 and am GM in both P and T on the Korean and European server. This isn't copium this is straight up FACTS that were justified by the old balance team in early LotV. Do not look for explanations where there is already one.
@@SquintyGearswhat a terribly short sighted and poorly researched comment. In a straight up fight an SCV would lose to drone or probe if they all had 40 health. Even now pros have to trade out scvs because of probe shield micro. Please learn the game before embarrassing yourself 🤡
DOES HE SEE THE SHIMMER?!!?!??
Lowko is the perfect YT channel to watch while eating and I don't even play SCII
Bulbasaur in French is Bulbizarre I believe. Something like that.
The problem with that Protoss push at 18:00. Classic warped in a reinforcing round of Zealots and suicided them to chase down stutter stepping marines into siege tank fire, managed to kill a bunch of vikings with his original zealots, and then ultimately suicided them in the exact same way.
If the UED shows up in the Koprulu Sector, there's a chance that they could also make cyclones. Unless, of course, they make any of them in China, Korea, or Japan, as those would be called Typhoons instead. 😜
When top Protoss players have their disruptors just wander into death, the unit needs better control to retreat after shooting.
Жъэ жъэ in the end was awesome! :-)
clem fighting the prejudice that frensh men are cowards
Thanks for the video, Lowko. Hope you had a safe trip and are having a great time! ❤
@13:00 Lowko, look up the French dub of the Pokemon anime for what Starmie sounds like. Thank me later
I looked it up! So happy no one was around since I did not have my headset plugged in. XD
I am surprised at that I did not see much Cyclon use after they became expendable marine spamm 2.0. Fortunately out of the few good changes Cyclon is back to the former expensive but interesting form.
Hey the cyclones don’t build out of reactor anymore
That is just sad for the protoss.
In dia1 m3 mmr it seems like the cyclones are buffed in this new patch. Maybe I havnt figured out how to deal with them but they out range a tank with lock on, and are faster than any protoss unit. What's the counter?
VVelcome back!
Now tvp is the best match up. Used to be zvt. Zerg struggles too much. Even though Z is my favorite race. 😢
10:25 like the boston celtics
They really do need to move the 3 pt line back another 14". Obviously can't move the sides so the corner 3 would still be a higher percentage shot but good god, when teams are taking way more 3s than 2s, we need the NBA balance council to get their ish together 😂
patch is here bro
Yes, but he likely recorded it beforehand, before the patch came through.
so is this the classic Classic or the Zhoun Classic 😀
And they removed overcharge.. guess 1 base all in is the new meta in pvt now, win or die trying
Genuinely, stop, we've already seen post patch PVT and PVZ games, and there's only been a single 1 base all in, and that's because Serral had already won the first 2 of 5.
Just because bronze and silver league players don't have an instant "I win" button against early game raiding and attacks doesn't mean the race is unviable now. It means you actually have to SCOUT your opponent, and guess what, you suddenly have the prefect unit/ability combo to do it, with a hallucinated phoenix, because your going to build a sentry anyway in 99% of all protoss builds.
Or you know, don't, and complain on the forums that Blizzard might as well get it over with and just completely patch out the Protoss as a race.
Poissi, poissi poissi Poissirène (If you know you know)
funny how u call the SCV's . SUV's lmfao
i hate SC2 i just cant see protoss just losing like that without even a fight 🙂💔
Fun fact, france is the only country with a translation for the pokemon name. For exemple Charizard is dracaufeu in french
Japanese: Lizardon
German: Glurak
Chinese: Pānfólùhng/ Pēnhuǒlóng
Korean: Rijamong
Stop saying stupid things !
Yeah, this is simply untrue. Countries other than France have their own Pokémon namings.
Not so much fun as fake, then.
Does nobody know to use seigetanks
I'm about the same age as you, I feel you about Pokémon. The French Pokémon do have different names, they're awful...
First of all original name are in japanese. Second: English name are garbage, they mean nothing to french people. Last: German pokemon, chinese, korean, etc., have their own name and i don't see you complain about them. So gtfo of here !
why we do have overcharge?
when is this game?
Boo no Zerg
The word "cyclone" in the title "Clem is a CYCLONE BULLY against Protoss!" is unnecessary
Congratulations sir no one asked nor gives a flying f, have a nice day. He can name it what ever whenever he wants how he wants. Amazing isn't it.
Not on the PTR??? Wtf
The state of Starcraft 2 is a disgrace. Like usual, I see TVP, I can just skip to the end to see the predictable outcome at the highest level.
I beat Clem when he was in Silver
he was never in Silver lol. The first rank he got was gold
@tyrellwreleck4226 oh I played flem, you right
Music going soooo hard lolol. Kinda distracting if I'm honest
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I think this mass cyclone is too OP. I still don’t know how to counter it.
"So much utility in Terran units compared to that of protoss"
Man, he held that ramp with SCVs on hold position. Protoss can do that too, they just don't. What you gonna do, nerf SCVs ? This balance talk is getting ridiculous.
Change the Marauders attack to be melee range obv 🧐
...when would that ever help Protoss against T, a race with almost exclusively ranged units?
Every single Terran unit has long range, this alone is a massive advantage vs both Protoss and Zerg.
The best thing will be to make Marine target only ground, and have Marauders target ground and air instead, and also then change 1-2 of their units to be melee only to have a semblance of balance in utility.
you cant be serious ... isnt clear that terran unit are OP?
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