Excellent video and a fascinating subject. The Storm's salary cap scandal of 2010 beats the rest by far. Craig Bellamy didn't help his club with his defiant speech to the media. It was a 'we do whatever we want' moment, which didn't endear the Storm to rugby league fans. From an NRL perspective, it showed it had teeth when needed. I was shocked by the penalties at the time, but in hindsight David Gallop got it right.
@@kazumakiryu3397 If you do your research you would find that Sharks weren't over the cap in 2016. and the Years they were over the cap was a minuscule amount compared to that of the Storm's breaches.
@@kazumakiryu3397 storm did it for many years breaching the salary cap. They hid things, had dodgy books. Please do some research of your own team lmao
So, explain to me how the Eels salary cap issue is not worse than Melbourne's? 3 Million, over a 3 year period, that the club and board were well aware of, and still not reported against 1.7 million over 5 years, hidden from the NRL by a dodgy CEO. The only thing that Parra had stripped from them was their 9s trophy, simply because with all these payments, that's all they could win regardless.1 million per year in hidden payments is a lot more than $340000 per year.
The difference is with Parramatta the NRL knew or had an idea they had salary cap issues. I remember in 2015 the club was under investigation and were threatened with a points deduction before 2016. Parramatta's was also around third party payments. Melbourne's was a dual bookkeeping system where they had one set of contracts of players they submitted to the NRL, and then the real contracts were kept locked away. If not for the whistleblower then Melbourne would have never been caught, the NRL had absolutely no idea. Where as with Parramatta the NRL knew something wasn't right and had been onto them before. In 2016, as well Parramatta were $570,000 over the cap which was a lot less than the total for Melbourne. I think the people who did this video got the wrong figures.
You know what a hate about the storm being stripped of the premerships? The other teams will never get a chance to win that premiership so they still won its just a formality lol.
@@januariasg2837 No other team has come close to that run into the finals, especially from 8th place. They were wooden spoon contenders and out of nowhere exploded into the grand final and would've won had they not come up against cheats. No team has ever won outside of the top 4 and if any team were gonna do it, it was the Eels that year.
The problem is, you'd have to redo the finals entirely to find out the true winner; if rhe Eels finish 7th instead, do they beat the bulldogs week one? Do the Dragons still choke against the Tigers? We'll never know 🤷♀️😔
@@simonainscough619 Bellyache and the playing group had no idea, it was Brian Waldron and a couple other Storm administrators that orchestrated the whole scandal. Read "Storm Cloud" by Paul Kennedy which goes through the scandal in detail.
@@thegraveyardshift2826 They must have known... It's not like the admin staff were keeping all the money for themselves, it was salary for the players.. hence salary cap breaching. More players getting more salary must have known
So Parra cheated 3 m , storm 1.7 , manly 1.5 …. Manly got off lightly compared to melb. Should have included arl , Canberra cheated heaps more than above teams.
It just shows you how many clubs have cheated the cap over the years yet for some reason Storm always get painted as the salary cap cheats. The funny thing is all those beta clubs that also cheated didn't win shit when they were cheating (with the exclusion of the 2002 Dogs who were dominating until caught). At least at Storm we won when we were over.
The storm went to great levels to create & hide the overpayments over many years only the broncos have gone to such lengths. Players on 2 contracts, yes Cam & Billy etc, should of got life bans gf rings should of been returned
@@johnward6921 the 90 raiders do deserve a mention, this was the first year we had a salary cap, which was introduced after Canberra couldn't pay it's players for the 89 season.
Very interesting topic here. But from what I got, Storm won three premierships while cheating and the others just cheated in vane without much success on the field except for the Dogs.
If I remember correctly, even with the 37 points stripped, they were still only like 2 or 4 points away from 14th lol Edit: I looked it up, my bad, they were 6 points off. They would've had to win every game of the season to even be 14th lol
Your point is irrelevant, cheating wether you win or loss is no different. But showing prejudices to one team over another for the same misconduct is bullshit. The Essendon AFL football club has been put backwards 10-15years because of a doping scandal yet the Sharks NRL club win a grand final only a few years after doing the very same thing with the same supplier, it’s a joke!
The thing that sucks about the Storm and Dogs ones is neither club went on a buying spree to put them over the cap. They just had an insane run of talent coming through the grades, like Smith, Slater, SBW, JT, etc. and the salary cap sort of punishes this. It's fair though, Penrith are copping it now, losing juniors left, right and centre, while still remaining successful without cheating. It just sucks when you have clubs like the Roosters buying the most sought after players every year and never getting caught, especially when they got the spoils in 2002 and also were done for being over the cap that season. Albeit no where near as much over.
I'm not exactly allowed to speak as I support the "cheaters with integrity" but I doubt the players and Bellyache genuinely knew that the club was over, was something that the CEO was doing and only some admin staff knew about it
The Parramattas is worst compared to storm . The salary cap has gone up from 2010 to 2016 and parra were 1 million over ? I'm sure the caps gone up by more than 700k over 6 years
14:30 "They can't take away our Dignity & Integrity". Bellamy is delusional. There is no sign of remorse because they have none. Cameron Smith refuses to hand back his grand final ring to the NRL. As suspected once he retired no one even talks about him anymore. I imagine he sits in his house all night playing dvd's of Melbourne games reminiscing of what a great player he was. Time in the sun is over Cameron, your nothing but a has been anymore. Good riddance.
It really sucked what Storm did. I Iove the team I really do, but man it hurt my soul to find out what they did. I’m glad they accepted the punishment and that they came back
We definitely considered this but decided to limit the list to clubs that were involved in a “cheating” scandal rather than players. We didn’t make this clear during the intro but hopefully this reply helps clarify things. Thanks for the comment and we hope you enjoyed the video.
The punishment to the Bulldogs in 2002 and the Storm in 2010 were strong enough as both clubs were able to come back the following two years later and win the premierships with almost the same line ups they had when they were caught. If you look at Carlton in the AFL when they caught were breaching the salary, that club has never recovered. Understandable the NRL doesn’t want to kill its clubs, but the penalties were not string enough. In comparison the bulldogs have suffered in the last couple of seasons due to penalties surrounding their salary cap, this has hurt them more than the penalty issued in 2002 ever did. They were penalised for breaches relating to 2001 and 2002, however the bulldogs boss at the time has admitted that they had been breaching the cap since 1999.
Taking have 3 minor prems, 2 prems and a World Club Challenge not strong enough? Rugby League clubs thrive under an us vs them mentality that galvanizes. The punishments simply fired both clubs up. AFL clubs are jest beta.
@@thegraveyardshift2826 just a thought mate. Both clubs had rorted the cap, had players that ordinarily would not have been there, its not to say, at least the storm may or may not have won those premierships with or without some of those players. For the storm their penalty hurt the retroactively, the players still did all the hard work to win those grand finals and minor premierships, but the squad was still mostly intact by 2012, it was mostly the fringe players that had to leave, the only big names that left were Widdop and inglis. The same goes for Canterbury, got penalised, points stripped but came back two years later and won. The recent salary cap penalties against Manly, Canterbury, Cronulla to me were what should have happened back then. A financial penalty plus a penalty to their salary cap for the following seasons, players had to go, take a pay cut and the clubs could only spend within a limited cap.
Still pisses me off they stripped us of the premierships and made us play for points and it took them 6 months to come and talk to the players to make sure the players were ok ...disgusting
Storm first and daylight second. I would have thought it should be an easy fix moving forward with all players contracts being public knowledge and all player payments being conducted through the NRL. Clearly the punishments are not acting as good enough deterrents. Why not ban a club from participating in the NRL for 12 months for a first offence moving forward and banning them forever for a second offence of cheating the salary cap. Personally I feel the Storm should have been banned forever for keeping 2 sets of books for 5 years as this must surely be the worst type of cheating. Credit to them that now they are now the shining light in the NRL.
Ban forever? Settle down mate! Especially when you're trying to grow the game in Victoria. I get what your saying, despite the penalties to the Storm you had Parra, Manly and Cronulla all breaching the cap. It's a shame we don't have promotion/relegation so clubs could be relegated, like in Italian football when Juventus were relegated in 2006 when they were caught match fixing.
This comment brings up several issues with your intelligence. Anyone with half a brain, or maybe even a pea brain, would understand that Penrith couldn't be over the cap because they don't get their players from the market. They develop in-house or buy players that are journeymen and turn them into stars! Oh, and they lose 2-3 international players per year genius 🤡💀
@@masonprospero3880 The Sharks one was a genuine mistake and the club self-reported, resulting in us losing our Coach who had taken us from the scrapheap and turned us into premiership winners. Also, the tiny discrepancies by NRL salary cap standards didn't occur in our premiership year. We were also made to play the last 2 seasons $350,000 below every other club. The Sharks have nothing to answer for whatsoever.
Nearly all clubs have been caught out for salary cap infringement over it's existence... but they are minor compared to the storms amount and to the lengths at which they went to cover it up. Gold medal to Melbourne
@@masonprospero3880 the difference is the sharks owned up to it and turned themselves in. Your management and coach denied it and acted like their shit didn't stink 😂😂
Wow never knew about the broncos one I think they shouldn't have gave the 2 points back Why the fuck did the cowboys get points stripped when they didn't didn't score with 14 men and broncos did? Both should have the same result IMO
#4 should've been the end of that club's season, at minimum. #3 absolutely should've been the termination of that club. There just needs to be an outright disqualification from Finals for stuff like this. And how several of these franchises are allowed to still exist is beyond any scope of comprehension. And that #1: End of the franchise, all matches forfeited, the show cannot go on. You're lucky that didn't kill the NRL outright. Three minors and a Grand Final stripped, all points for the season deducted. End the franchise, have the league create a replacement, and make all the non-affected players immediate free agents.
The storm salary cap scandal punishments were light. They should been forced to release at least 5 of their highest paid players and the coach stood down for a season. The fact that they still claim those premierships shows they don’t think they did anything wrong
I like how some of these are the result of stupidity and not malice. Seriously imagine losing comp points cause you lost count of 13 people, You'd be so filthy at yourself. 🤣
The list should include the Sharks but more curiously why the Broncos and the Rosters never got a proper audit both of this clubs always do something fraudulent.
We all know that all the clubs do back door deals and have 2 sets of books.. Melbourne were just the club that got caught. I’m a massive broncos fan, but I don’t believe for a second with all the money the club has that there’s not back door deals going on..
They can strip points from Melbourne but honestly, at least 4 of their "big names" should not have even been playing for them for most of that decade. Add to that the dodgy crap they continued to do up to 2020 (Cam Smith's wires ring for eg) shows they never stopped chasing. No other club is able to maintain top of the table seasons year after year like Melbourne, let alone maintain rosters over and above what the cap should allow. Other clubs bent the Salary Cap to dig themselves out of a hold of poor performance, but the storm still have replica trophies in their HQ, and on their recent GF shirts, they had 6 years listed, when 3 of this were striped. They have no remorse and are still doing it to this day, guaranteed.
It doesn't help when you have the coach who instead of saying sorry says things like "Premierships are won on the field" "You cannot take our memories of these games away" "We won them fair and square on the field". Along with the new board who have said things like "Billy Slater has won four premierships" even though two of them were stripped.
It's because they created so much success while cheating over several years. They illegally won the premiership twice. You can't cheat the game any further than that.
The amount was astronomical, but it was there deceitful ways to try and hide it from the nrl with dodgy books and people lying that put them into the next stratosphere. Even now smith is still in denial
Its because of the way storm cheated..... 2nd set of books many players signed 2 contracts (players and their mangers should have been put out of the game for at least a year)
Well yeah mate cheating the salary cap to win mutiple grand finales and keeping separate books is illegal. Other people cheating doesn't mean your team didn't cheat...
@@xXSinForLifeXx never said storm didn’t cheat and they are the furthest thing away from ‘my team’ just pointing of people are happy to label storm cheats when basically every club has history.
Who is cheating the system, right now? Well, they get away with it, until they are caught... Are Melbourne just that good? For so long? Even today? Is Bellamy innocent? Who knows...Maybe Bellamy is just that good, a one in a million coach...Or will history, in the future, show an evil genius? With what we have to work with now, he just seems like a genius coach... Great program, and it will provide content for as long as humans are human...
The best thing about this is manly got robbed and then came back to beat storm 40 nil the next year and make storm the worst grand final team in the history of the game. Storm should have had their licence cancelled. The players all knew what was happening and said nothing and evaded tax so they should have been de-registered. The players who have had their names tarnished deserve everything they got for cheating.
The thing I find odd is none of the players claim they knew anything but then say if you signed a contract for $400K and all of sudden were getting extra money in your bank account and it didn't add up, wouldn't you be a bit suspicious?.
Interesting that Melbourne are the most penalised team. Even teams after 2010 that breached the cap were treated in a more lenient manner. The peptide use by the Sharks was in my opinion a legitimate reason to punish players. As professional sportsmen you are responsible for what is put in to your body. Somehow a backdated 6 week suspension was sufficient in this case, even though it can be argued that the premiership was won on the back of the use of banned substances.
Say what you want but unless the NRL can go back in time, they can't actually take the storms grand final wins away, because the game still happened and the storm still won, stripping a title doesn't effect what actually happened in history lol
Um, the Broncos in 2006 and Manly in 2008??? If Melbourne were so good at cheating, how come they lost those premierships? If you're going cheat, do it right!!@
Can someone find me any information about if the Knights have ever cheated? Except when we were under the salary cap which I wouldn't even class as cheating 🤣
what makes me laugh is how the rooters r labelled as the "cheats" while half the comp have been done for it :P - ahhhh tall poppy syndrome is alive and well in oz lol
@@BUDU69 Why haven't they been pinged for it then ?????????? Let me guess........ Uncle nick buys them off Not a cap but a sombrero We've heard it all before and will again, .... YET it's never proven Jealous is a curse my friend Try coming up with some hard facts Instead of womping onall the time
It's been like that for the last 15 or so years. We always "cheat the comp", but conveniently, when we had that period where we missed the finals every year for a few years, we never cheated the comp then. 😂
These sort of videos are great, keep it up man.
i fricking love your vids bro! keep up the good work!!
Melbourne storm, the birth place of every dirty tactic in todays game.
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hey man LOVE ur content. I would LOVE to see a ranking of all NRL teams from worst to best in ur opinion
@M yeah but this is also a NRL channel not a soccer channel lol
Excellent video and a fascinating subject.
The Storm's salary cap scandal of 2010 beats the rest by far. Craig Bellamy didn't help his club with his defiant speech to the media. It was a 'we do whatever we want' moment, which didn't endear the Storm to rugby league fans.
From an NRL perspective, it showed it had teeth when needed. I was shocked by the penalties at the time, but in hindsight David Gallop got it right.
So should 2016 Cronullas premiership be taken off them as well
@@kazumakiryu3397 If you do your research you would find that Sharks weren't over the cap in 2016. and the Years they were over the cap was a minuscule amount compared to that of the Storm's breaches.
@@MrRennie27 still over in that year so the salary cap is the salary cap if we get our premierships taken then u should to
@@kazumakiryu3397 storm did it for many years breaching the salary cap. They hid things, had dodgy books. Please do some research of your own team lmao
@@Tpoggi yeh and we had our premierships taken off us so u should as well
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2016 simpler times, a time were Anthony watmo was a “star signing” 😂😂
what now?
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when are roosters gonna get caught for their salary sombrero
I guess when they break the rules...
go the roosters! :)
Money talks mate that’s why. He keeps being out the brown paper bag at all the right times they are the biggest cheats in nrl
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@@Its_just_me_again is it you? Must be you? Are you ok?
So, explain to me how the Eels salary cap issue is not worse than Melbourne's?
3 Million, over a 3 year period, that the club and board were well aware of, and still not reported against 1.7 million over 5 years, hidden from the NRL by a dodgy CEO. The only thing that Parra had stripped from them was their 9s trophy, simply because with all these payments, that's all they could win regardless.1 million per year in hidden payments is a lot more than $340000 per year.
idk actually but then again storm are storm there grubs but parra also did bad
The difference is with Parramatta the NRL knew or had an idea they had salary cap issues. I remember in 2015 the club was under investigation and were threatened with a points deduction before 2016. Parramatta's was also around third party payments. Melbourne's was a dual bookkeeping system where they had one set of contracts of players they submitted to the NRL, and then the real contracts were kept locked away. If not for the whistleblower then Melbourne would have never been caught, the NRL had absolutely no idea. Where as with Parramatta the NRL knew something wasn't right and had been onto them before. In 2016, as well Parramatta were $570,000 over the cap which was a lot less than the total for Melbourne. I think the people who did this video got the wrong figures.
That’s probably exactly what you said, you can’t strip something they don’t have they didn’t win anything basically
The eels did it and were still shit the storm did it and actually won stuff 😂
keep the great vids up
Early memes were born with Cam Smiths pic with premiership ring titled Fraud of the Rings 😂😂😂
You know what a hate about the storm being stripped of the premerships?
The other teams will never get a chance to win that premiership so they still won its just a formality lol.
the eels totally deserved the 2009 premiership
@@illiterateemu2049 they finished 8th , how did they deserve it ???
@@januariasg2837 finished 8th and still got to the finals, and then were robbed by the cheaters
@@januariasg2837 No other team has come close to that run into the finals, especially from 8th place. They were wooden spoon contenders and out of nowhere exploded into the grand final and would've won had they not come up against cheats. No team has ever won outside of the top 4 and if any team were gonna do it, it was the Eels that year.
The problem is, you'd have to redo the finals entirely to find out the true winner; if rhe Eels finish 7th instead, do they beat the bulldogs week one? Do the Dragons still choke against the Tigers? We'll never know 🤷♀️😔
great channel.
Thank you.
Poor choice of words from Bellyache - Integrity... mate you just got caught systemically cheating for 5 years.
no integrity no dignity
@@simonainscough619 Bellyache and the playing group had no idea, it was Brian Waldron and a couple other Storm administrators that orchestrated the whole scandal. Read "Storm Cloud" by Paul Kennedy which goes through the scandal in detail.
R u a sharks supporter mate? Fish n chips baby
@@thegraveyardshift2826 They must have known... It's not like the admin staff were keeping all the money for themselves, it was salary for the players.. hence salary cap breaching.
More players getting more salary must have known
@@iffracem Players don't discuss how much they are earning, its ridiculous to suggest the players knew the club was over the cap.
So Parra cheated 3 m , storm 1.7 , manly 1.5 …. Manly got off lightly compared to melb.
Should have included arl , Canberra cheated heaps more than above teams.
It just shows you how many clubs have cheated the cap over the years yet for some reason Storm always get painted as the salary cap cheats. The funny thing is all those beta clubs that also cheated didn't win shit when they were cheating (with the exclusion of the 2002 Dogs who were dominating until caught). At least at Storm we won when we were over.
The storm went to great levels to create & hide the overpayments over many years only the broncos have gone to such lengths. Players on 2 contracts, yes Cam & Billy etc, should of got life bans gf rings should of been returned
The raiders cheating in 1990 still the highest over by 600k with the cap 1.5 m yet media keep praising how good that side was ……..no wonder.
@@johnward6921 the 90 raiders do deserve a mention, this was the first year we had a salary cap, which was introduced after Canberra couldn't pay it's players for the 89 season.
Very interesting topic here. But from what I got, Storm won three premierships while cheating and the others just cheated in vane without much success on the field except for the Dogs.
If I remember correctly, even with the 37 points stripped, they were still only like 2 or 4 points away from 14th lol
Edit: I looked it up, my bad, they were 6 points off. They would've had to win every game of the season to even be 14th lol
So loads of teams “cheated” like the storm but the storm were put through the ringer. Other teams were given slaps on the wrist in comparison
Yea but Melbourne won grand finals the years they cheated
Your point is irrelevant, cheating wether you win or loss is no different. But showing prejudices to one team over another for the same misconduct is bullshit. The Essendon AFL football club has been put backwards 10-15years because of a doping scandal yet the Sharks NRL club win a grand final only a few years after doing the very same thing with the same supplier, it’s a joke!
@@BitzOfAll075 sharks breached cap the year they won GF.
The sharks cheated the cap in 2016 and won the premiership, and it wasn't stripped. The NRL has always been NSW biased and always will be
@@ProspectingLife And don't forget the Sharks were over the cap between 2013-2018, expect for 2016 conveniently
The thing that sucks about the Storm and Dogs ones is neither club went on a buying spree to put them over the cap. They just had an insane run of talent coming through the grades, like Smith, Slater, SBW, JT, etc. and the salary cap sort of punishes this.
It's fair though, Penrith are copping it now, losing juniors left, right and centre, while still remaining successful without cheating. It just sucks when you have clubs like the Roosters buying the most sought after players every year and never getting caught, especially when they got the spoils in 2002 and also were done for being over the cap that season. Albeit no where near as much over.
What music do you use?
You can’t be a cheater and say you have your dignity and integrity Bellamy.
I'm not exactly allowed to speak as I support the "cheaters with integrity" but I doubt the players and Bellyache genuinely knew that the club was over, was something that the CEO was doing and only some admin staff knew about it
Day 10000 of asking for every teams biggest wins and biggest losses of the nrl era
Seconded
Great video
Good video!
I really enjoyed this vidoe your voice is good for this thank for the vidoe mate
Great channel
The Parramattas is worst compared to storm . The salary cap has gone up from 2010 to 2016 and parra were 1 million over ? I'm sure the caps gone up by more than 700k over 6 years
but storm won the premiership
Sharks break salary cap rules and keep the cup HAHAHA
ik that it might be funny but if it was any other team youd be crying abt it
@@lillithebanana he's laughing at how stupid that is. Strip them off of everything like they did to storm
@@harisrakovic559 yea they should’ve been stripped nrl makes no sense
thx for the vid also very nice to see no roosters up there 💯
13:39 Shoutout the combo of 'acquire' and 'procure' becoming 'acqure'
The worst part about the storm saga is that they kept the players that put them over the cap and basically kept winning on the back of cheating.
14:30 "They can't take away our Dignity & Integrity". Bellamy is delusional. There is no sign of remorse because they have none. Cameron Smith refuses to hand back his grand final ring to the NRL. As suspected once he retired no one even talks about him anymore. I imagine he sits in his house all night playing dvd's of Melbourne games reminiscing of what a great player he was. Time in the sun is over Cameron, your nothing but a has been anymore. Good riddance.
Still more of a legacy then both me and you could ever make though...
@@kolovekatoanga651 a legacy of cheating? Cameron Smith was the best at it for sure.e
Lol you're still talking about him. He lives in your head. He owns your ass
Qld assistant coach and a gig with channel 9?
Someone sounds mad that someone is still more of a legend then they’ll ever be
I like these videos
awesome vid
At least Melbourne won a premiership back two years later
It really sucked what Storm did. I Iove the team I really do, but man it hurt my soul to find out what they did. I’m glad they accepted the punishment and that they came back
What punishment did Cronulla players receive after the drug cheating scandal? Not even a week of suspension. That is cheating in itself.
good video, but you forgot the ryan tandy betting scandal of 2010
We definitely considered this but decided to limit the list to clubs that were involved in a “cheating” scandal rather than players. We didn’t make this clear during the intro but hopefully this reply helps clarify things. Thanks for the comment and we hope you enjoyed the video.
4:15 so what's he saying is he snitched😂😂
Bet people got pissed at that guy
Nice vid
The punishment to the Bulldogs in 2002 and the Storm in 2010 were strong enough as both clubs were able to come back the following two years later and win the premierships with almost the same line ups they had when they were caught.
If you look at Carlton in the AFL when they caught were breaching the salary, that club has never recovered. Understandable the NRL doesn’t want to kill its clubs, but the penalties were not string enough. In comparison the bulldogs have suffered in the last couple of seasons due to penalties surrounding their salary cap, this has hurt them more than the penalty issued in 2002 ever did. They were penalised for breaches relating to 2001 and 2002, however the bulldogs boss at the time has admitted that they had been breaching the cap since 1999.
Taking have 3 minor prems, 2 prems and a World Club Challenge not strong enough? Rugby League clubs thrive under an us vs them mentality that galvanizes. The punishments simply fired both clubs up. AFL clubs are jest beta.
@@thegraveyardshift2826 just a thought mate. Both clubs had rorted the cap, had players that ordinarily would not have been there, its not to say, at least the storm may or may not have won those premierships with or without some of those players. For the storm their penalty hurt the retroactively, the players still did all the hard work to win those grand finals and minor premierships, but the squad was still mostly intact by 2012, it was mostly the fringe players that had to leave, the only big names that left were Widdop and inglis.
The same goes for Canterbury, got penalised, points stripped but came back two years later and won. The recent salary cap penalties against Manly, Canterbury, Cronulla to me were what should have happened back then. A financial penalty plus a penalty to their salary cap for the following seasons, players had to go, take a pay cut and the clubs could only spend within a limited cap.
Still pisses me off they stripped us of the premierships and made us play for points and it took them 6 months to come and talk to the players to make sure the players were ok ...disgusting
Ha are you for real?! Your club CHEATED
yes, cheating the system is disgusting. fuck your club, and fuck the dollar signs it stands for.
Storm first and daylight second. I would have thought it should be an easy fix moving forward with all players contracts being public knowledge and all player payments being conducted through the NRL. Clearly the punishments are not acting as good enough deterrents. Why not ban a club from participating in the NRL for 12 months for a first offence moving forward and banning them forever for a second offence of cheating the salary cap. Personally I feel the Storm should have been banned forever for keeping 2 sets of books for 5 years as this must surely be the worst type of cheating. Credit to them that now they are now the shining light in the NRL.
Ban forever? Settle down mate! Especially when you're trying to grow the game in Victoria. I get what your saying, despite the penalties to the Storm you had Parra, Manly and Cronulla all breaching the cap. It's a shame we don't have promotion/relegation so clubs could be relegated, like in Italian football when Juventus were relegated in 2006 when they were caught match fixing.
300th comment up the sharkies 😂
How can Bellamy say they still have their integrity ?????? Total crap.
And Penrith in 2023😂😅😂😂
My dude, you go for the bunnies; the most looked after team in 2023, and the biggest flops of the year
This comment brings up several issues with your intelligence. Anyone with half a brain, or maybe even a pea brain, would understand that Penrith couldn't be over the cap because they don't get their players from the market. They develop in-house or buy players that are journeymen and turn them into stars! Oh, and they lose 2-3 international players per year genius 🤡💀
He's not going to be wrong
I was here thinking melbourne were the only ones that broke the salary cap 🤣
Aha nah it's bullshit because the sharks broke the salary cap and never got their title stripped but storm did 🙄
@@masonprospero3880 fr we got hit pretty hard
@@masonprospero3880 The Sharks one was a genuine mistake and the club self-reported, resulting in us losing our Coach who had taken us from the scrapheap and turned us into premiership winners. Also, the tiny discrepancies by NRL salary cap standards didn't occur in our premiership year. We were also made to play the last 2 seasons $350,000 below every other club. The Sharks have nothing to answer for whatsoever.
Nearly all clubs have been caught out for salary cap infringement over it's existence... but they are minor compared to the storms amount and to the lengths at which they went to cover it up. Gold medal to Melbourne
@@masonprospero3880 the difference is the sharks owned up to it and turned themselves in.
Your management and coach denied it and acted like their shit didn't stink 😂😂
Wow never knew about the broncos one I think they shouldn't have gave the 2 points back
Why the fuck did the cowboys get points stripped when they didn't didn't score with 14 men and broncos did?
Both should have the same result IMO
#4 should've been the end of that club's season, at minimum.
#3 absolutely should've been the termination of that club.
There just needs to be an outright disqualification from Finals for stuff like this. And how several of these franchises are allowed to still exist is beyond any scope of comprehension.
And that #1: End of the franchise, all matches forfeited, the show cannot go on. You're lucky that didn't kill the NRL outright. Three minors and a Grand Final stripped, all points for the season deducted. End the franchise, have the league create a replacement, and make all the non-affected players immediate free agents.
Wouldn't the Cowboys one be the 4th official's fault? Or whoever was in charge of subs? Amazing how a mistake like that can happen
You should do a video of the 10 best flick passes of all time
Warriors would have still found a way to blow had they been given the points back 🤣🤣
Blow as good as your mum? 😂😂
Subbed. Worth.
The storm salary cap scandal punishments were light. They should been forced to release at least 5 of their highest paid players and the coach stood down for a season. The fact that they still claim those premierships shows they don’t think they did anything wrong
Fuck the storm! - disgruntled eels fan
Fuck the eels! - disgruntled storm fan that knew my team cheated
I like how some of these are the result of stupidity and not malice. Seriously imagine losing comp points cause you lost count of 13 people, You'd be so filthy at yourself. 🤣
The sharks and performance enhancers, then a bunch of them refusing to test. Zero respect
The Storm was supposed to cheated their amount over multiply years so we're only over by a little per year. Didn't have extra players on in any game
You left out QLD repearedly using 8+ imports in a game about your origins. And they still didn't beat NSW mighty 21-year rep record.
You forgot to add the sharks for cheating in the 2016 preliminary final against cowboys and the eels for the 2022 preliminary final against cowboys
A controvercial decision isn't the same as cheating, he has a whole video on that
Amazing
The list should include the Sharks but more curiously why the Broncos and the Rosters never got a proper audit both of this clubs always do something fraudulent.
NewsCorp own most of the Broncos shares and Nick Politis is one of the most powerful men in the country. The NRL don't want to cross either of them
10k nice 👍
roosters stole the bulldogs premiership in 2002
4:12 RACIST SHARKS
Top 10 are all roosters if they didn’t get away with it
Get away with what? Following the salary cap? How do you get away with following the rules?
We all know that all the clubs do back door deals and have 2 sets of books.. Melbourne were just the club that got caught.
I’m a massive broncos fan, but I don’t believe for a second with all the money the club has that there’s not back door deals going on..
funny how roosters arn't here...
And good vid p.s. GO THE BLUES
Don’t let Stephen Dank near your club
Bro I feel bad for eels they haven't won a grand Final and got cheated out of the finals
Me. before the vid starts. We Broncos don't cheat bruh.
Me, 3 seconds into the vid. Ohh get fucked lol
They can strip points from Melbourne but honestly, at least 4 of their "big names" should not have even been playing for them for most of that decade. Add to that the dodgy crap they continued to do up to 2020 (Cam Smith's wires ring for eg) shows they never stopped chasing. No other club is able to maintain top of the table seasons year after year like Melbourne, let alone maintain rosters over and above what the cap should allow. Other clubs bent the Salary Cap to dig themselves out of a hold of poor performance, but the storm still have replica trophies in their HQ, and on their recent GF shirts, they had 6 years listed, when 3 of this were striped. They have no remorse and are still doing it to this day, guaranteed.
2 were stripped
It doesn't help when you have the coach who instead of saying sorry says things like "Premierships are won on the field" "You cannot take our memories of these games away" "We won them fair and square on the field". Along with the new board who have said things like "Billy Slater has won four premierships" even though two of them were stripped.
Add the manly 66 to 0 bulldogs game to highest points scored
Love how so many people still call the storm cheats yet look at the amount of teams on here plus the others that didn’t make it
It's because they created so much success while cheating over several years. They illegally won the premiership twice. You can't cheat the game any further than that.
The amount was astronomical, but it was there deceitful ways to try and hide it from the nrl with dodgy books and people lying that put them into the next stratosphere. Even now smith is still in denial
Its because of the way storm cheated..... 2nd set of books many players signed 2 contracts (players and their mangers should have been put out of the game for at least a year)
Well yeah mate cheating the salary cap to win mutiple grand finales and keeping separate books is illegal.
Other people cheating doesn't mean your team didn't cheat...
@@xXSinForLifeXx never said storm didn’t cheat and they are the furthest thing away from ‘my team’ just pointing of people are happy to label storm cheats when basically every club has history.
THE $TORM CHEAT$ No 1
TH-cam, how do I permanently BLOCK this VIOLENT SPORTING CRAP?
This vid is proof that Melbourne aren't the only ones who break the rules
Who is cheating the system, right now?
Well, they get away with it, until they are caught...
Are Melbourne just that good? For so long? Even today? Is Bellamy innocent? Who knows...Maybe Bellamy is just that good, a one in a million coach...Or will history, in the future, show an evil genius?
With what we have to work with now, he just seems like a genius coach...
Great program, and it will provide content for as long as humans are human...
The best thing about this is manly got robbed and then came back to beat storm 40 nil the next year and make storm the worst grand final team in the history of the game. Storm should have had their licence cancelled. The players all knew what was happening and said nothing and evaded tax so they should have been de-registered. The players who have had their names tarnished deserve everything they got for cheating.
The thing I find odd is none of the players claim they knew anything but then say if you signed a contract for $400K and all of sudden were getting extra money in your bank account and it didn't add up, wouldn't you be a bit suspicious?.
Nahhh Storm just trying to keep the players they spent money on developing. This just proves how shit other teams are at developing talent.
And the year they played for no points they would have been on top of the ladder at the end of the year with the same players.
The Bulldogs and Storm were bad but the Sharks in my opinion was the worst! The Peptide scandal is cheating of the highest order!
Interesting that Melbourne are the most penalised team. Even teams after 2010 that breached the cap were treated in a more lenient manner. The peptide use by the Sharks was in my opinion a legitimate reason to punish players. As professional sportsmen you are responsible for what is put in to your body. Somehow a backdated 6 week suspension was sufficient in this case, even though it can be argued that the premiership was won on the back of the use of banned substances.
Glad I'm not the only one
@@kers225abk2 same
The banned substances were used in 2011 and 2012. They won the comp in 2016...
Everyone makes fun of the chooks but haven’t done anything
Haven't been caught, you mean.
Say what you want but unless the NRL can go back in time, they can't actually take the storms grand final wins away, because the game still happened and the storm still won, stripping a title doesn't effect what actually happened in history lol
If your happy to break the rules, then man up & accept the punishment. The Storm deserved everything they got.
Atleast storm could win when we cheated 😂 "eels"
Um, the Broncos in 2006 and Manly in 2008???
If Melbourne were so good at cheating, how come they lost those premierships? If you're going cheat, do it right!!@
@@anthonyfullford6615 we did it very right you goose
Parra was worse but Melbourne hid it better for longer.
And Meninga. And Smith and Munster all made Hall of fame and they expect to be Imortals. Stick the NRL ( Maninga what’s the ARL ever done for me)
Can someone find me any information about if the Knights have ever cheated? Except when we were under the salary cap which I wouldn't even class as cheating 🤣
Nrl we love a good paperbag 😉
Bellamy king of the cheats in NRL bought in wrestling tactics etc & works every rule to the wrong side, diving & niggling players !!!
Surprised that The rorters (tRoosters) have got away with their cap for so long esp the plsyers they seem to acquire lol
Innocent until proven guilty I guess, I wonder though if anything will be found.
what makes me laugh is how the rooters r labelled as the "cheats" while half the comp have been done for it :P - ahhhh tall poppy syndrome is alive and well in oz lol
Because every week the rooster bring out the brown paper bag surprised they haven’t been done every week the cheats
@@BUDU69
Why haven't they been pinged for it then ??????????
Let me guess........
Uncle nick buys them off
Not a cap but a sombrero
We've heard it all before and will again, .... YET it's never proven
Jealous is a curse my friend
Try coming up with some hard facts
Instead of womping onall the time
It's been like that for the last 15 or so years. We always "cheat the comp", but conveniently, when we had that period where we missed the finals every year for a few years, we never cheated the comp then. 😂
Manly’s not cheat, it’s a team that can help to win