If you like BIG fish then overhead reels Are the way to go. although spinning has come a long ways. it still not as strong as casting (drag stack too small). BUT...they are definitely more Versatile than Overhead. less backlash, casting into the winds, lighter as well, if you into throwing lighter lures and easiest to learn. Overhead good for cut/live bait, jigging, more line capacity for bigger fish runs. larger drag stack to prevent overheating. harder to learn due to backlash, can cast heavier lures a mile (if you into that stuff). I would say a combination of these 2 types are reel are the most effective way to fish. They just do certain things better than the other. imo if you are fishing for things under 50lbs. spinning is fine depending on the quality/brand of reel. if you are going for bigger fish like 50lb+ then get a casting/overhead. Another thing to consider is line twist. Spinning setups will eventually twist your line over time, this can compromise line strength. while overhead virtually has no line twist.
@@kenneth9874 Don't worry about it he's probably like a young kid who doesn't know anything. That or he's just trying to trigger people. I don't even think he read my comment.
I have Okuma Avenger ABF 6000 bait runner Spinning reels on all my rods with 40-50 lb braid. I catch catfish, drum, carp, trout, and gar with 0 issues. Love the reels paired with my Mad Kat and Hellcat rods. Wouldn’t change a thing about my set-ups.
I've got spinning reels (5000 series) for my big catfish rigs and small bass light lure rigs (2500/3000 series). Much more economical than baitcaster reels. I've got four baitcaster reels for heavier bass fishing lures. 👍🇺🇸
Great info. I always use spinning reels 5000 to 8000. All my catfish rods have bsitfeeder reels. I just dont like baitcasters at all. I have not had any problems with them. Its frustrating to me when i see rods i might want to buy and they don't come in 2 piece spinning models. I have my own ideas to develop my own series of rods, but no funds to produce. I love 7' to 9' med heavy to heavy 2 piece models. My favorite is the ORIGINAL KING KAT rods. I use them for Salmon, tuna, and catfish. Oldies but goodies.
Im a big fan of Diawa reels far as bass fishin.. i went to walmart and got me one then big Quantum reels put it on my 10.4' surf rod and i been using it for several years. You dont hafta break the bank to fish and be successful. Love ur content Dieter. Been a fan for years. 🤟
@@DieterMelhorn Hey Mr. Dieter, you and I and Butch should go fish for Catfishes one of these days. I like to use Danny King Punchbait. The catfish love it and I kind of like it too. If I get hungry, I'll scoop out a gob of it and snack on it. I've also snacked on cutbait (sushi) and nightcrawlers (live noodles). You two are gonna enjoy fishing with me, You might be taken aback by the horror show if I get the munchies, but we'll all have a good time.
I got 3 of the new okuma ceymar A baitfeeder spinning reels in the 6,000 size for catfish with 237 yards of 50 lb braid. And 3 of the new okuma ceymar A baitfeeder spinning reels in the 500 size for panfish with 190 yards of 10 lb braid this season and I love them. They are the first okuma baitfeeders that have carbon fiber drag washers instead of oil felt drag washers. And I couldn't be more impressed with their performance honestly, I'm thinking about switching all my spinning reels to them at this point.
My son and I use Kast King 5000 with free spool (bait running option ) 60-70$ I love them and have nothing bad to say about them,I’m 65 and have used spinning reels all my life-except for when I was real young then was a good old Zebco 202 😊
I use the barbie rod and reel combo made by shakespeare. It is less than 3' long and has a spincaster like your good old zebco. It can handle surprisingly big fish. My record is a massive 19" 3+ lb Channel Cat. I'm sure it has got to be the pond record for around here. One day when I go fish offshore, I hope to get me a 1,000lb black marlin with my barbie and become legendary.
I use 4000 sized reels for the catfish around here. The average fish is about 15 pounds. I got four over twenty pounds we don't have blues around here and no flatheads in the lake I fish. I started using reels with baitclickers on them towards the end of the summer. I tie my rods to the rod rack. I used to have the whole setup go into the water and still be tied to the rack
I use open face spinning reels most of the time. Just never got into conventional reels, except for saltwater. You did a really good job of breaking this down for us. As far as sizes size #4 or #3 is the average size I use now days. Oh, I will drop down to a #1 or a #2 when fishing for bait fish. Which makes me wonder what your favorite setup for cashing bait fish like bluegills or white pearch for example? I usually use a small Zebco combo like a Dock Demon. What do you suggest?
I pretty well started with spinning reels I’ve mostly switched to bait casters but I still use my spinning reels from time to time but I’m slowly phasing them out
@ kind of honestly for where I live the cheap tiger spinning combos from Walmart for the most part are more than enough for 90 percent of the fishing I can do unless I fish the desmoins or one of the other big rivers that are an hour or more away your not catching anything over 20lbs very often out of any body of water near me aside from a very very rare occurrence and at that 10 is probably getting kind of rare your kind of lucky to get more than a 3lb fish most of the time 5lbs is a really good day it’s not so much the size of the fish ppl keep around here so much as how many ppl are fishing and that there keeping hordes of the small fish they don’t even let them grow to get big you’ll never see a trophy fish if it’s only ever eating size guys keep dozens at a time since Covid most places you can get to on foot are fished out
Have a mix of kastking and pisce fun reels right now. Spinning and baitcasting which depending on conditions i switch what im using, where i fish need more winch then speed reels wish i could say it was for monster fish but its because of river debrisbthat gets hung up.
Idk what I do wrong, but I have 0 luck with spinning reels. I can even make bait casters work most the time without blowups (unless I'm trying to use super lite lures, and there is a lot of high wind gusts, but I can get a spinning reel to have line pop off and turn into 60 plus lines and about 400 knots 9 out of 10 times for some reason. I've got to the point I'd rather fish with a zebco bullet on a windy day for things like crappie to eat, and brim to turn into cut bait (not a fan of bass, and I use the big casting reels on catfish (and a ton of jug lines if I'm desperately hunting for whare they are hiding in the winter or something.)
All Penn spinning reels are made in China now. A better quality than those other two reels made in China. There is something that you didn't mention. You did address that the size number like 6000, 600 are the same size in general but also some spinning reels have a 60, which is the same as 600, 6,000. I personally use Shimano spheros 8000 for catfishing. The 8000 size on Shimano is the size of most 6000 brands. Shimano spinning reels run a bit smaller cause of there better technology. Diawa the same. Always buy a superior reel, in the long run, it will last a life time.
@@EddieRobertsRiverGypsy you can get a solid spinning reel for 40 or 60$. You’ll be able to use it with no trouble for years. Baitcasters cost a min of 100$ to get one that only bird nests sometimes. If I wanted to spend $100 and be pissed off all day I’d take my wife to the mall.
Thanks for another informative video man!! Merry Christmas 🎣
Dieter you are the man another informative video.
Thank you so much for the kind words!!! ❤️
If you like BIG fish then overhead reels Are the way to go. although spinning has come a long ways. it still not as strong as casting (drag stack too small). BUT...they are definitely more Versatile than Overhead. less backlash, casting into the winds, lighter as well, if you into throwing lighter lures and easiest to learn. Overhead good for cut/live bait, jigging, more line capacity for bigger fish runs. larger drag stack to prevent overheating. harder to learn due to backlash, can cast heavier lures a mile (if you into that stuff). I would say a combination of these 2 types are reel are the most effective way to fish. They just do certain things better than the other. imo if you are fishing for things under 50lbs. spinning is fine depending on the quality/brand of reel. if you are going for bigger fish like 50lb+ then get a casting/overhead. Another thing to consider is line twist. Spinning setups will eventually twist your line over time, this can compromise line strength. while overhead virtually has no line twist.
Great feedback!!
Just absolutely false. Bait casters have absolutely no advantage over spinning reels for catfish unless you want a line counter.
@@ChasingtheMobywanna bet? Ever see a winch set up like a spinning reel?....😅
@@kenneth9874 Don't worry about it he's probably like a young kid who doesn't know anything. That or he's just trying to trigger people. I don't even think he read my comment.
@@kongxiong6005 thanks, I'm not worried about it, I use both but for cranking power there's no comparison
I have Okuma Avenger ABF 6000 bait runner Spinning reels on all my rods with 40-50 lb braid. I catch catfish, drum, carp, trout, and gar with 0 issues. Love the reels paired with my Mad Kat and Hellcat rods. Wouldn’t change a thing about my set-ups.
I've got spinning reels (5000 series) for my big catfish rigs and small bass light lure rigs (2500/3000 series). Much more economical than baitcaster reels. I've got four baitcaster reels for heavier bass fishing lures. 👍🇺🇸
You're well covered!
Great info. I always use spinning reels 5000 to 8000. All my catfish rods have bsitfeeder reels. I just dont like baitcasters at all. I have not had any problems with them. Its frustrating to me when i see rods i might want to buy and they don't come in 2 piece spinning models. I have my own ideas to develop my own series of rods, but no funds to produce. I love 7' to 9' med heavy to heavy 2 piece models. My favorite is the ORIGINAL KING KAT rods. I use them for Salmon, tuna, and catfish. Oldies but goodies.
Thank you for the information i use a 5000 spinning reel and got a kastking round reel
Im a big fan of Diawa reels far as bass fishin.. i went to walmart and got me one then big Quantum reels put it on my 10.4' surf rod and i been using it for several years. You dont hafta break the bank to fish and be successful. Love ur content Dieter. Been a fan for years. 🤟
I appreciate you watching Butch!!!
@@DieterMelhorn Hey Mr. Dieter, you and I and Butch should go fish for Catfishes one of these days. I like to use Danny King Punchbait. The catfish love it and I kind of like it too. If I get hungry, I'll scoop out a gob of it and snack on it. I've also snacked on cutbait (sushi) and nightcrawlers (live noodles). You two are gonna enjoy fishing with me, You might be taken aback by the horror show if I get the munchies, but we'll all have a good time.
I got 3 of the new okuma ceymar A baitfeeder spinning reels in the 6,000 size for catfish with 237 yards of 50 lb braid.
And 3 of the new okuma ceymar A baitfeeder spinning reels in the 500 size for panfish with 190 yards of 10 lb braid this season and I love them.
They are the first okuma baitfeeders that have carbon fiber drag washers instead of oil felt drag washers.
And I couldn't be more impressed with their performance honestly, I'm thinking about switching all my spinning reels to them at this point.
My son and I use Kast King 5000 with free spool (bait running option ) 60-70$ I love them and have nothing bad to say about them,I’m 65 and have used spinning reels all my life-except for when I was real young then was a good old Zebco 202 😊
I use the barbie rod and reel combo made by shakespeare. It is less than 3' long and has a spincaster like your good old zebco. It can handle surprisingly big fish. My record is a massive 19" 3+ lb Channel Cat. I'm sure it has got to be the pond record for around here. One day when I go fish offshore, I hope to get me a 1,000lb black marlin with my barbie and become legendary.
I use 4000 sized reels for the catfish around here. The average fish is about 15 pounds. I got four over twenty pounds we don't have blues around here and no flatheads in the lake I fish.
I started using reels with baitclickers on them towards the end of the summer. I tie my rods to the rod rack. I used to have the whole setup go into the water and still be tied to the rack
Fish that size are FUN on a 400 class reel!!!
I use open face spinning reels most of the time. Just never got into conventional reels, except for saltwater.
You did a really good job of breaking this down for us. As far as sizes size #4 or #3 is the average size I use now days. Oh, I will drop down to a #1 or a #2 when fishing for bait fish. Which makes me wonder what your favorite setup for cashing bait fish like bluegills or white pearch for example? I usually use a small Zebco combo like a Dock Demon. What do you suggest?
LOOK OUT!! I got a video coming out next week on the small Zebco reels for bluegill and small panfish!!!!
I pretty well started with spinning reels I’ve mostly switched to bait casters but I still use my spinning reels from time to time but I’m slowly phasing them out
Great feedback! Sounds like you’ve evolved like many have.
@ kind of honestly for where I live the cheap tiger spinning combos from Walmart for the most part are more than enough for 90 percent of the fishing I can do unless I fish the desmoins or one of the other big rivers that are an hour or more away your not catching anything over 20lbs very often out of any body of water near me aside from a very very rare occurrence and at that 10 is probably getting kind of rare your kind of lucky to get more than a 3lb fish most of the time 5lbs is a really good day it’s not so much the size of the fish ppl keep around here so much as how many ppl are fishing and that there keeping hordes of the small fish they don’t even let them grow to get big you’ll never see a trophy fish if it’s only ever eating size guys keep dozens at a time since Covid most places you can get to on foot are fished out
Great video as always. Are you planning on being at the catfish conference?
Have a mix of kastking and pisce fun reels right now. Spinning and baitcasting which depending on conditions i switch what im using, where i fish need more winch then speed reels wish i could say it was for monster fish but its because of river debrisbthat gets hung up.
Idk what I do wrong, but I have 0 luck with spinning reels. I can even make bait casters work most the time without blowups (unless I'm trying to use super lite lures, and there is a lot of high wind gusts, but I can get a spinning reel to have line pop off and turn into 60 plus lines and about 400 knots 9 out of 10 times for some reason. I've got to the point I'd rather fish with a zebco bullet on a windy day for things like crappie to eat, and brim to turn into cut bait (not a fan of bass, and I use the big casting reels on catfish (and a ton of jug lines if I'm desperately hunting for whare they are hiding in the winter or something.)
Would you tell us your choice on trolling motors
Zebco, done. Argue in the comments.
That video drops in about two weeks....not kidding!
Catfish pro bait casters pr abus for me recently started making room for baitcaster rods thos year
All Penn spinning reels are made in China now. A better quality than those other two reels made in China. There is something that you didn't mention. You did address that the size number like 6000, 600 are the same size in general but also some spinning reels have a 60, which is the same as 600, 6,000.
I personally use Shimano spheros 8000 for catfishing. The 8000 size on Shimano is the size of most 6000 brands. Shimano spinning reels run a bit smaller cause of there better technology. Diawa the same. Always buy a superior reel, in the long run, it will last a life time.
Spinner reels are far superior to birdnesters I mean baitcasters. Generally speaking.
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Spinning reels are for those that can't cast a bait caster.
@@EddieRobertsRiverGypsy I prefer fishing all day. not pulling out birdnests just so I can feel like jimmy Houston
@@EddieRobertsRiverGypsy you can get a solid spinning reel for 40 or 60$. You’ll be able to use it with no trouble for years. Baitcasters cost a min of 100$ to get one that only bird nests sometimes.
If I wanted to spend $100 and be pissed off all day I’d take my wife to the mall.
@@EddieRobertsRiverGypsy the battle has begun!!!