I have just fitted the Martech system to my van. Very happy with the product but, as you say, the installation instructions could be massively improved. Thanks for taking the time to make this really helpful video. It made the install much easier.
Fantastic video fella when you said at the beginning of the video you weren't going to tell us the company I thought here we go. But credit were credits due. I'll be using the same company looking on their website seams really good stuff. And big thanks for your install video. Very very helpful. Take care buddy.
just bought the same kit and then found your video on line really great description of fitting the kit, hope mine goes as well thanks for taking the time to do this.
I just bought the more basic kit. No instructions at all, and noticed on the Web site that they only offer a guarantee it if fitted "by a mechanic" or by Martech. I emailed that I was disappointed by this but have had no reply after two working days. I have fitted one side so far - I am seventy so I too am 'too old for this game' 😀, and have to work in stages. I pumped up my one side with a bike pump to 2.5 bar, which I think will be plenty by the look of it. Thanks for the video, I could have worked it out (I was a 'mechanic' many years ago) but I found it reassuring to see how you did it. I thought I would mention here that you (and I) used loctite blue since I feel that is important. Thanks again :)
Thanks for your reply I’m glad you’ve got the job done. As you know I had a faulty bag but it was replaced and I’ve kept the possibly faulty one as a emergency spare as I’m sure I could if needed replace it roadside. Best wishes.
Nice one. Fellow leisure vehicle guy here MCEA .Just bought the kit for my globecar with very sick springs! Thanks for saving me a lot of head scratching .Are those pipes just pushed on to switches ? Mine hasnt arrived yet
Hi, have you any concern that the airbag airline connections are on top? Im wondering if over a period of time moisture/water from the comoressed air can pool in the bottom of the bags. I know in my workshop i have to drain my compressor daily, especially in summer. Without stripping it apart there's no way to get the water out. Am i worrying about nothing?
Hi not really. There’s plenty of room for the air line and the conduit along with secure fixings along the chassis. The top mounting bracket also has provision for a clear run. I’ll be sure to keep an eye on them. The Campervan has just passed its MOT and the garage are ruthless with Campervans 😂
There is not a lot of new air going in/out of the bags. For the most part, when the bags are set at around 1 bar, there is little inflating/deflating to do. It would be easy to install a water catch/drain at a low point in the tubing if concerned.
I don’t have any concerns this early on but I would definitely pop the bags out next summer to inspect them. The airlines on top is for me the best option as they are secure against the chassis and there is no movement in the airlines because the top of the bag is a solid mount . If they were on the bottom they would be up and down like a yo-yo with the leaf springs and the air bag and could easily get damaged or even blow out if a line were to fracture. It’s just a safer option to me.
😂 it’s a 3 hour job but it took me two days to do it properly. So it’s a two day job. It’s just taken almost 3 hours to get the bump stops off the van I’m doing because the captivated nut broke free in the chassis.
I have thought about it but it does stiffen the ride considerably which the air bag’s managed very well. So I’ll probably leave it as it is for now. Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers.
I’m not sure what setup you have but it sounds like you have a air leak. Are your bags independent or both linked together? I’m guessing you have one gauge and valve as there both deflating.
The pressure will fluctuate a lot during driving but the the pressure should be still be the same when you stop. If you have a pressure relief valve in-line it may be faulty. What pressure are you running around in?
Hi. All seems good just back from a 7 day trip to Isle of Wight and it’s definitely improved the stability and it came in very handy when levelling up on the pitches
Thanks for replies. fitted mine. pretty straightforward thanks to you. theyve changed top bracket into a 2 piece effort though .tied together with a 100mm x 8mm bolt . not very impressed with that bit ,but it works :)
Sorry I disagree. When deflated they act as the the original bump stop would have, although it’s not a good idea to drive at speed deflated but stationary and for manoeuvring purposes is just fine.
I have just fitted the Martech system to my van. Very happy with the product but, as you say, the installation instructions could be massively improved. Thanks for taking the time to make this really helpful video. It made the install much easier.
Thanks mate.
Finally, a worthwhile video on the subject!
Fantastic video fella when you said at the beginning of the video you weren't going to tell us the company I thought here we go.
But credit were credits due.
I'll be using the same company looking on their website seams really good stuff.
And big thanks for your install video.
Very very helpful.
Take care buddy.
All still working fine and it’s a great improvement all round. Cheers
Recent motorhome subscriber.Thanks for taking the time to make this vlog.
just bought the same kit and then found your video on line really great description of fitting the kit, hope mine goes as well thanks for taking the time to do this.
Purchased wed was delivered fri fitted sat thanks to you video. It should be linked to their web page👍 thanks again
I just bought the more basic kit. No instructions at all, and noticed on the Web site that they only offer a guarantee it if fitted "by a mechanic" or by Martech. I emailed that I was disappointed by this but have had no reply after two working days. I have fitted one side so far - I am seventy so I too am 'too old for this game' 😀, and have to work in stages.
I pumped up my one side with a bike pump to 2.5 bar, which I think will be plenty by the look of it.
Thanks for the video, I could have worked it out (I was a 'mechanic' many years ago) but I found it reassuring to see how you did it.
I thought I would mention here that you (and I) used loctite blue since I feel that is important.
Thanks again :)
Thanks for your reply I’m glad you’ve got the job done. As you know I had a faulty bag but it was replaced and I’ve kept the possibly faulty one as a emergency spare as I’m sure I could if needed replace it roadside. Best wishes.
Thank you for the best video I've come across of this install
Your very welcome. I hope it’s useful to you and everyone thanks.
great video
good job and nice explanation, respect
Glad to of been some help. Your comments are much appreciated.
Great video and help , just doing mine
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Watch out for those bump stops. Take your time. I’m sure it’s gone well.
Thank you, great video!
Glad you liked it!
Really enjoyed the blog and i would like to try ...dont fancy working under chassis though ...did you use copper grease on the bolts ?
Hi I use Liqui Molly HT anti seiz.
Nice one. Fellow leisure vehicle guy here MCEA .Just bought the kit for my globecar with very sick springs! Thanks for saving me a lot of head scratching .Are those pipes just pushed on to switches ? Mine hasnt arrived yet
The switch pipes do yes and they don’t come off.
Great video.. Does the twin conteol allow you to use them to level the van left to right ? I am probably going to buy the same kit £489 on ebay
Yes it does.
Hi, have you any concern that the airbag airline connections are on top? Im wondering if over a period of time moisture/water from the comoressed air can pool in the bottom of the bags. I know in my workshop i have to drain my compressor daily, especially in summer.
Without stripping it apart there's no way to get the water out. Am i worrying about nothing?
Hi not really. There’s plenty of room for the air line and the conduit along with secure fixings along the chassis. The top mounting bracket also has provision for a clear run. I’ll be sure to keep an eye on them. The Campervan has just passed its MOT and the garage are ruthless with Campervans 😂
There is not a lot of new air going in/out of the bags. For the most part, when the bags are set at around 1 bar, there is little inflating/deflating to do. It would be easy to install a water catch/drain at a low point in the tubing if concerned.
I don’t have any concerns this early on but I would definitely pop the bags out next summer to inspect them. The airlines on top is for me the best option as they are secure against the chassis and there is no movement in the airlines because the top of the bag is a solid mount . If they were on the bottom they would be up and down like a yo-yo with the leaf springs and the air bag and could easily get damaged or even blow out if a line were to fracture. It’s just a safer option to me.
Amazing video, thank you!
Did you go for 170/2 or the 180/2 kit
I’m not sure what Is the difference?
@@porscheminormechanicsrando8394 the 170 ones are rubena branded and good for 4t the pair or the 180 ones are martech branded and good for 5t the pair
That’s useful. Mine are rubena. If I known that I would have probably gone for the 5 ton. But I’m still well within limits at 4. Thanks
The 170/2 at 4 ton.
Nice video, can you please be so kind and give me a link to buy the the paddle valves?
Hi the valves were part of the full kit but if you go on eBay and search Martec air suspension you might find separately listed parts.
😂 it’s a 3 hour job but it took me two days to do it properly. So it’s a two day job. It’s just taken almost 3 hours to get the bump stops off the van I’m doing because the captivated nut broke free in the chassis.
That’s a very common issue. Hope you’re all sorted now.
Heavy duty springs next then up plate to PHgv then only pay £165 road tax .
I have thought about it but it does stiffen the ride considerably which the air bag’s managed very well. So I’ll probably leave it as it is for now. Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers.
anyone know why my ducato airbags lower themselves when i drive but stay up stationary
I’m not sure what setup you have but it sounds like you have a air leak. Are your bags independent or both linked together? I’m guessing you have one gauge and valve as there both deflating.
not sure its a air bag system from new not aftermarket it will stay up all day but as soon as i move it goes down@@porscheminormechanicsrando8394
The pressure will fluctuate a lot during driving but the the pressure should be still be the same when you stop. If you have a pressure relief valve in-line it may be faulty. What pressure are you running around in?
Send me some pics of the gauges and setup if you can. Email andy454@hotmail.co.uk
How old is the system ?
Sorry me again .How is it performing ? Pump looks a bit Chinese :)
Hi. All seems good just back from a 7 day trip to Isle of Wight and it’s definitely improved the stability and it came in very handy when levelling up on the pitches
Ps not sure if the pump is Chinese but it’s done a bit of work with not problems yet.
Thanks for replies. fitted mine. pretty straightforward thanks to you.
theyve changed top bracket into a 2 piece effort though .tied together with a 100mm x 8mm bolt . not very impressed with that bit ,but it works :)
not bump stop, they are spring assistors.
Sorry I disagree. When deflated they act as the the original bump stop would have, although it’s not a good idea to drive at speed deflated but stationary and for manoeuvring purposes is just fine.
@@porscheminormechanicsrando8394Spring Assistors do not deflate, they are made from a rubber type material and require no pneumatic assistance.