Abandoned Airplanes: Bagdad Airport, Arizona, Season 1, Pilot Episode
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ย. 2018
- Our latest adventure took us to Bagdad, Arizona where we make some very interesting discoveries.
Freeport-McMoRan Inc. owns the Bagdad copper mine; one of the largest copper resources in the world. Mining here began in 1882 and in 2016 more than 173,000,000 pounds of copper were mined.
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Most airplanes rotting away at small airports are rotting away for a good reason. They may be grounded do to regulations and getting them back in the air would cost more than the plane would be worth fixed. There isn’t a shortage of airplanes, there is a shortage of pilots. I would love to become a pilots but can not afford flight schooling. And that is why there is a shortage of pilots... because it costs 50 to 80 k just to start making 30 k as a pilot. Solve that problem and you solve the pilot shortage.
@michael knowlden $80K/yr as a flight attendant, I'd assume.
@michael knowlden thanks for the clarification, however, the OP comment is still valid. Based on my research, the training from the Lift Academy (flywithlift.com/admissions/) will still cost $50K after subsidies and post-CFI loan forgiveness (after 5 years of employment) with the airline (I'm not sure if the $17500 sign-in bonus applies to Lift Academy students, as well as the $4K for each new hired pilot referral program).The minimums are still high (rjet-pilot.jobs/) so I doubt anyone will get their pilot career paid for by the airline and, even less, a $130K/yr with just 5 years after completing their training.
I agree
Ehh its a problem that eats its self. You need more pilots to make more planes, and you need more planes to make more pilots. Big reason flight school is so expensive is because plane insurance is so expensive. Unfournalty Americans like to sue each other and I think that is what contributes to the shortage. Most the airframes you see are flying beyond they're intended life span but its expensive to produce planes.
You know I am a rich guy and never thought of this option. One of my buddies father own a school teaching you to fly king air planes and offered it too me at his coast. I am a coward and stayed at my job ,young and dumb
The owner of the Cessna 150 may have died or is sick and can't do anything with the plane! There was a beautiful Stintson 108 Voyager at a small airport near me that sat for 15 years and never moved. It started to decay so I tried to find out who owned it. The little airport didn't have but a couple of small hangars on it and no one seemed to know anything about the plane. Obviously there was nobody charging for storage at this tiny strip. I called the FAA and they told me I had to be a member of law enforcement in the area to get that info. I finally was able to get a police chief to ask the FAA who owned it and we found out the man had died just a month after he parked the plane there and he had no relatives. I own the plane now. Had to put quite a bit of money into it to make it airworthy but it has been worth it.
Law enforcement? Not so. The FAA web site will tell you the registered owner with a few ticks of the N number for free. Also, for $10 you can order a CD with the entire history of the airplane from that same FAA web site. The police are not necessary at all. FAA.gov. Now you know.
that's wild, we have tons of abandoned dc3s, dc4s, firecats, Cessna 172's and senecas. Was it hard to get ownership?
@@Jasshands1 Yes very difficult because I had to deal with a government entity! That alone explains the amount of Nonsense I went through to obtain the plane! First I had to hire an attorney. Finding one that wanted to fool with it was difficult as well. Once i had retained him we had to file a claim that required a search for relatives and anyone the man might have owed money to! Fortunately he was very clean and had owned his home an car and pickup truck. No payments or mortgage of any kind. The city had auctioned his vehicles and house years ago because they were sitting at the house. We found he had paid cash for the plane and didn't have a bill of sale! And since it wasn't airworthy it hadn't been registered in over 20 years. The best part was the City where he lived didn't have jurisdiction over the plane which was at a country airport outside the city. We found he bought the plane in another state and flew it to the little airport with it being registered. He didn't even have a title! That was really hard to obtain because the county wanted their fingers greased with money! Most small governments in counties and towns and small cities are seriously corrupt!
@@ltlwalt The plane had not been registered by the guy who died and left it there! He had purchased it with cash and flown it to this small country airport. I tried the N number and the FAA told me the plane shouldn't have been where I said it was and thought it night have been stolen! That is why I had to get the local law involved!
@@ltlwalt ohh wow, you really lucked out! I wish i could find an experimental or Light Sport or Ultralight.
I am seeing a lot of interest in the GA airplanes that have been abandoned by their owners so I will be doing some more videos on the subject soon!
Tim Timmons please do I just find them interesting 👍🏾
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Yep. Please do more. Though I too hate to see aircraft in that state it is fascinating. I saved a couple of aircraft remains that could otherwise have been lost to the scrap man. The fuselage of Cessna 140 N76402 and the cockpit section of Ercoupe N3188H. Both were written off here in the UK.
If you ever fly over the Davis Monthan boneyard thats a video I would love to see.
Tim Timmons i would definitely be interested in picking one up to restore!!!
This is a cool and unique topic. I bet you'll find a good inventory in Arizona. I'm new to your channel & subscribed. Thanks.
Please keep this series going Tim,love these offbeat places with old aircraft parked up,it is sad to see them sinking into the ground but behind each one must lie a story,the flat tyres are usually the tell tale sign that they have been abandoned,the chances of seeing them airborne again is pretty remote.
Do not assume owners of abandoned aircraft are selfish or anything else.
The high cost of maintenance is usually a factor. Go find for yourself the cost of Cessna 152 Aerobat door hinges. It works out to about $13,000 for the set. Cessna do not want their old aircraft in the air.
They never dreamed their 1960's and 70's aircraft would still be active today.
Cheers
Laurie, you hit the nail on the head. You should see the strange looks I get when I discuss the pricing for parts and have to explain that the company that made their plane went out of business in the 80s....many seem shocked.
Been there.... done that. Owning a plane is sometimes cheaper than a car until something breaks. My airplane insurance is cheaper than my car insurance. However, I live in fear of something breaking. Repairs get expensive in a hurry. I am not a rich guy. I am just an average guy that loves to fly.
Hey Tim,
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I learned to drive and fly at that airport. Dorris's husband Bob used to run the airport and taught my father, myself and countless others how to fly he was there every day. Back in my youth, the airport had 5-7 planes there and was very active. We rebuilt and recovered my dad's Piper Tri-pacer in that empty hanger back in the '80s. My job for lessons was to keep all that brush down around the hangers and along the runway during the summers.
Bob passed awhile ago and his wife I believe passed them along to Family. This video was last year and a lot has happened with the families of old Bagdad. last I spoke there were plans to get them flying again but I am not certain it has been done yet. Thanks again, I'm hoping to fly back into Bagdad myself one of these days.
Landing 23 was always fun and the usual pattern with the wind. It's frisky because there could be an updraft as you come across the edge of the mesa on final! Love the channel, keep it up.
Jeff not Syd
It is disheartening to see the 150 not being flown. I see Doris has a PA-22 and 172 from her late husband? Will they be put up for sale? I live in Tucson an have had my A&P almost 24 years.
I love the paint job on your Commuter. Great airplane for training as well as cross country flying! I got my license in 1981 in the C150 (1976 Centennial model)..saved my life on one occasion because of its stability! I received my A&P license 5 years almost to the day in 1986, (one day short). I went to work for a major airline in Los Angeles shortly thereafter!
Even with an A&P which would save me a ton of money in restoring an airplane I still can't afford to fly because of the high cost of fuel!
When I was in flight training I belonged to a flying club and the cost was amazingly low, $20 /hr for the plane, $10/hr for the instructor!
The newer C152 came out before I received my license and was told the model I saw cost $30,000, certainly not affordable for a lower worker!
p.s. You might want to practice your approach to landings as you were much too high on the approach and too low over the threshold, according to the VASI lights.
Just my opinion.
Have you bought or donated any aircraft yet?
What a great looking airport. Its got a lot of potential.
Oh cool your in my town of Bagdad, Az airport. How you injoyed our small town and we lose more people to teach people how to fly and i know a little about flying because i was around when the airport was great with people that flyed.
I agree with you 100% regarding the sadness/frustration behind people leaving an aircraft to just rot away when there are so many people out there that would love to keep them flying. At the same time however, I guess we need to stop and respect what could have been going on in their lives that can often pop up and not give them time to get rid of it. Aircraft can quite easily become "unimportant" to their owners when life throws them a curve. You posted this vid roughly 3 years ago. The owner of the 150L just passed away roughly 1 month ago at the age of 87. We don't know what was going on in her life when she was into her late 70's when this plane became abandoned. But we both can say we wish her family or friends would have taken care of it, and/or sold it when she no longer could fly/care for it. Though this 150L was not the only aircraft she has owned, we have to also understand that some/many people do not have the same relationship with their aircraft that you and I do. I'm sure we both find that equally as sad/frustrating as well. But it's true.
I used to hear news stories about Baghdad back in the mid to late ‘50’s. Never paid much attention to what was being said, but I certainly remember the name Baghdad heard on the radio.
Very cool video, Baghdad is on my list of must visit. I was thinking about including it on one of my cross countries for my ppl.
Do it Brandon, very interesting place. Thanks for watching.
I enjoy you videos cause I like to see all the cool airports in Az. I have a Cherokee 140/160 at GYR and plan to use it to build time and explore Az.
@@rollnrangers73 Thanks Brandon! I'm based out of DVT.
I really enjoyed your video,i am an aviation enthusiast since childhood with the same adventure interest in aircraft like you,wish i could join you!
Hi Tim, I'm new to your channel. This is a cool topic and I'll tune in for more. Cheers.
Thank you Jimmy
I'm glad YT algorithm brought me here. There's about 12+ abandoned GA planes at my airport including some bonanzas, 172's, and Cherokees and it kills me to see that as the flight schools there struggle to find reasonably priced trainers.
Such a SHAME!! I AM ONE OF THOSE AVIATION ENTHUSIASTS that needs air time and a plane for cheap or not OVER INFLATED! This really gets too me...
Wanna fly a few packages from South America?
I’d love to find an old neglected plane and fix it up over time! It’s always been a dream of mine and it hurts to see potential projects sit like this!
Stopped by the airport today and those 3 planes are still there. I remember visiting the airport back in the mid '80s on a family camping trip and I was more excited to find several old abandoned Willys Jeeps there than to see any airplanes. This place has been rebuilt in the past few years since the video was shot.
the owner is doris darlene manifee but she may have passed away just please i wanna comtact any of her remaining relatives thanks
The 1970 182 hasn’t flown since 2016. Just google the tail number for all the info.
Bagdad,az. The town with the most swingers! It's a mining town. I know cause I use to deliver lime to the mines there. Pretty sad though to see those planes just sitting there neglected.
I flew to that airport a few times when I would service the mine. The airstrip in basically in the FMC Bagdad Mine. There was an old Tri Pacer there in 2013 when I flew there. Glad to see that it is gone. I think there was only 3 planes sitting there before. I think the 150 was one of them. Some of the folks owned land adjacent to the mine. I would give them a view. One was in the canyon. Good memories.
I'm with you; this is sad. As a kid, I remember seeing old Vietnam-era films of Navy crews pushing perfectly good helicopters into the sea simply because they needed the space on the ship. And how many young, eager pilots go without?
How many hundreds of ADs are outstanding on that 150 and the 182, especially since it's a T-182
What does a visor have to do with abandoned planes?
It looks like the airport has been abandoned as well. Sad
The 182 is the most valuable plane there !
What a waste. The owner should give it away to the one whi deserves it.
Was there any fuel available at the Baghdad airport?
no
We "ll love to own a Cherokee Warrior as well , there are few sinking in the grass at fields near by from me
It would be interesting if someone created a marketplace to buy/trade/sell aircraft like the abandon ones you show in your video. Unless something like this already exists?
This used to be just a soda machine/restroom and short runway, 3300’ back in 2010 when I landed there. No other planes or any buildings/hangers etc.
Great video!. Sad to see all the planes rotting away. Would love to see an episode on the abandoned planes at Glendale Municipal Airport in Glendale Arizona.
Good news, shooting starts in Glendale this coming week!
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so i live in bagdad arizona and can tell you all about that 182, i know the owner, he wont sell and even worse it had a engine overhaul before it was parked in that spot about 25 years ago and never moved since then. also I fly my paramotor from that airport so if you see a paramotor floating around bagdad thats me, or look at my you tube page, ive got a few videos of bagdad.
That 150 has been setting there for a very long time. It was there 12yrs ago when I was there.
A dead pilots still flys it once in a while
You think the rotting aircraft here are bad, go check out Deer Valley Airport, there’s a lot more aircraft that are just sitting there abandoned. One of them is a T-33 Shooting Star that has been sitting under a covered tie-down for who knows how long.
funny you mention that, that is my home airport and I have been shooting video on the planes you speak of for a future episode.
So sad to see airplanes like that abandon imagine they're all over the world... setting rotting away... SMH
Not so much rotting, but yea theyll need a good inspection to get back online.
@@LM90MTL mmm more likely the owns who plans they are have passed away and the family does not know they are still paying for the aircraft have a sister work for the airport here in Canada each year she makes the call to see if they are still alive they plane was not used for a year just checking. one family know his dad had a plane but did not know where or what type of aircraft it was there mother did not know she was just kept paying for the storage of the plane 4 years I did not fly it sit behind the hanger that they wear paying for to be inside too. where it was the owner new that he passed away and know for awhile he could start selling the parts from the plane when they came for it it was stripped out
they person got 8-month in jail for fraud when he did get out the family did put a lien on the businesses he owns did not take very long they had the money for the plane the shell was sold some after that and was able to rebuild the form and another down plane that plane has a crash was able to be used for that other plane here
my sister says to take up to go 1 to 2 years before they let the plane fly again paperwork take that long
Cessna 150L N21940 owner passed away 2012. Former US Army Corporal, Korean War. Ownership with widow since 2013.
They have been there for years but I believe they are still owned
Heartbreaking
Had a Cessna 150 parked on the tie down ramp at Wings Field in Blue Bell, PA for years, tires flat, windshield fogged and scratched, and birds multi-listed the engine cooling intakes as real estate. I had no idea the owner was sort of a local legend: a weatherman on the local ABC affiliate killed in skydiving accident in the 1970s. I assumed the plane was going to be scrapped, but someone actually got it going, bought it flew it somewhere. That had to be a nervous flight.
the cessna 150 was owned by james manifee and in 2013 went to doris manifee. we can assume james passed and his widow got it not knowing what to do with it. the 182 is owned by don manifee. the piper is owned by vincent pike, registration expired 3 years ago.
Somebody knew to renew the registration for N21940 with the FAA in April 2019.
@@craigjhr Yeah, but the registration renewal is only $5. Some things in a vending machine cost more than that.
Mobius 1 My point is that if someone came into possession of an aircraft that didn’t have any idea what to do with, the chances are high that they would probably let the registration lapse.
Isnt there a max.number of cycles untill its to costly to rebuild
Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee N6403R registration cancelled 03/12/2018, due to Expiration. Owner resides/resided? in Bagdad.
hell yea BROTHER...........
THAT CRATER AT 11:22 ...NICE VIEW
That is an open pit copper mine not a crater.
The owner of the 150 passed away last December at 87 years old. She was probably to old to fly and just gave up/ Didn't think the airplane would go bad so fast.
Hey Tim.. Just for giggles I looked up those registration numbers. The Cherokee has been deregistered but the 150 and the 182 are both owned by the same person so she has two rotting planes. Not sure why...? Oh so you said the one hulk could be used with a simulator? That would be cool! So you do that and fly R/C too? X Plane here and of course FPV R/C. Anyways great vid. :)
Thank you!
I love that 182. Such a shame.
Is the 150 a G model?
Im looking for a 150 or 182 like those that can be fixed
I hope you checked the NOTAMs, a big open pit mine like that WILL have TFR days for blasting.
Yeah, it’s sad to see those planes rotting away on the ramp. The cost of bringing them back up to good flying condition most often exceeds what they are worth once they are fixed up.
And I bet those ownners brag about owning a plane
Steve, it is really an epidemic in this country. Just think of all the planes squirreled away in hangars that we can't even see!
Sounds like you don’t own one yeah we brag about it because we own several more planes.
@tim manifee Tim do you know who owns that Cessna 150 ? And is it for sale or who could I talk about it ? If it is for sale I have some questions . Thank you - BRUCE LaRock
Dam, these people are KILLING me ! I've been bucking rivets on wings and fuselages since I was 9 years old. My Dad was a retied Lt. Colonel from the Air Force and became an A & I. I've done Ssooo many Annuals I could do them in my sleep. Got my Commercial ticket pulled about 10 years ago because I became Type 1 Diabetic. WILL be getting it back soon !
FAA reg shows both Cessna’s owned by Couple named Manifee.
I wish I can have one. Wow, that is bad, some people wishing to have one of those aircraft and some others that have one, they don’t take care the planes.
That bother me too. As a private pilot that love flying
I'm with you Adrian, too many airplanes just sitting around that could be very useful to pilots trying to gain experience without breaking the bank.
@@FlyingWildAZ Yup Yup cause money is my biggest issue at this point why i am not flying!!!!
My dad says dead pilots skeletons still fly these abandoned planes once in a while, is that true?
Are those aircrafts for sale??
Plenty of ramp queens at my airport. Sad to think that someone would buy a plane with no intent or desire to take care of it. Worst thing you can do to an airplane (or any machine, for that matter) is to let it sit. My airplane's mechanic says it's common for him to do annuals on airplanes that fly less than 10 hours a year.
A very good idea to donate planes to kids who cannot afford to fly. Unfortunately the purchase price is the cheapest expense, I’ve spent more on maintenance in the last two years for my plane than the purchase price. Not including oil, fuel, training to remain current. That is why GA is dying world wide.
Is that plane still available
The airplane version of a "I dont sell it, i´ll fix it some day"-rotting classic car in the foregarden.
Brb comin to pick up that 182
You better not that's my father's plane we were going to rebuild it when I'm done with my college you touch it I will get the cops on you so fast
I Googled the N numbers and came up with the records... The Cherokee 140 is a 1966 and its ownership is unclear. The Cessna 150 owner's name popped right up.
That’s the whole thing when you own something, you can do whatever you want.
Question ? Can people go to these places ie. abandoned airports & flatbed themselves 1 of these forgot planes ?
Now theres a really nice restroom facility on site ....Oh, and the abandoned planes are still there
Nice place to take a decent dump
Only grip is that the window shade reflects what’s behind you. Not good or safe.
people cant afford to rebuild the engines and this is the result seen it more times than you can imagine.
That's what happened to me. I flew my 172 more than 1,100 hours past TBO. The last annual showed the compression starting to drop, so I sold it while it was still flying. I couldn't afford the overhaul. The guy that bought it overhauled it and it still flies today.
That 182 would be a good plane to rebuild
I agree with you on that one Brandon.
I just may try to contact the owner and see what I can do
This place looks just like the other Baghdad.
Why do you think it's called Bagdad?
For a very sloped runway, try Mesquite Nevada.
Been there, done that, thanks for watching!
Check out KRVS. 2 planes C172, C152 owned by the same person. Been sitting on airport 4 20 yrs.
It is painful to see planes at fields just sitting there. We have some at KWBW that are derelicts just sitting there. Majority of the time, it is due to cost. Aviation is an expensive hobby. Planes way past annuals, engines beyond TBO.Parts too expensive to repair. I agree 100%, if you can't own it, sell it! Those planes might be worth more in parts. I would love that c152.
The owner of the green 150 is one Doris Darlene Manifee (Ladd), 87 years old, of Black Canyon City, Arizona who passed away on December 4, 2021. There are living relatives who more than likely don't even know where this plane is, or if it even exists.
can i contact her?
@@tomatoe308 Maybe while using a Ouija board?
It's my dad's airplane and we live in bagdad
What airport did you land at at the end?
KDVT
@@FlyingWildAZ Thank you.
I began flying back in the 80's. I could get a 152, full IFR, for 22 bucks wet. Archer, full IFR, autopilot, for 42 bucks wet. Skyhawks, for $36! Flew out to the west coast from Indiana, and back. Today, rental restrictions forbid that. A hundred bucks for a basic beat up 150, a 50 mile restriction, and no night flying allowed! I used to rent a Saratoga SP for 100 bucks per tach hour. No sense getting licensed now, unless you can afford your own plane! Who wants to go through all the time and expense even learning to navigate, if you cannot get out of sight of the airport? $250 per hour in Honolulu for a fricking 172! And, YOU think planes sitting idle are the cause? We used to fly to Chicago for coffee after work. That coffee today, would be a 500 dollar trip at $250 per hour versus $84, at $42! Round trip per head in "86" was 21 bucks! Twenty bucks is easy to come by. Lots of willing people ready to shell out $10.50 for an hour of flying. Not as many takers at $60 per head! Anyone earning less than 40 bucks an hour finds that to be prohibitive. Most trips are a couple hours, unless you stay in the pattern! And, with new two place aircraft costing more than many homes, what makes you think that planes sitting, are the reason for the insane costs involved? It costs a lot to remain proficient as well. the three take offs and landings per 90 days, is pretty lax! I flew with a lot of guys in our club, who would tense up during a steep turn or a slip. If one is not comfortable in the front seat, they should get with another pilot, until they are!
That 182 has been in the same spot for over 12 years and the 150 also what a waste.
Their are always going to be aircraft caught up in legal issues, estate disputes, divorce settlements, and other litigation. Some times it takes decades to settle these issues and no one can touch them until that time. Meanwhile someone collects storage fees for said aircraft.
On the donation idea, yeah it can work but when you donate a Car, Truck, Boat or plane they have a stupid $200 cap on donation value for taxes.
The 150 has been sitting for 8 years!
How do we know they’re not 20,000 hour airframes that can’t be used for anything so they get grounded. What else do we do with them
I've rescued a Bowers Fly Baby from a barn in Kentucky and got her flying again. My Fly Baby is in the May 2018 addition of Sport Aviation. I just acquired a 65 Cessna 172F to overhaul and get flying again. I also have a 72 Citabria ECA that will be finish around September, and the last is a 66 Piper Cherokee 140 I'm overhauling. Lots of work, but I'm trying to do my part saving these neglected airplanes. My wife says I can't get anymore planes until I finish what we have and sell some of them. It's a fun hobby, but you got to know what your getting into and know when to walk away. We can't save them all.
Here in Mexico, we hankers that kind of planes. My dad an me we are looking for a 182 like you has show....in a just price...
Can you wrap an airplane like an automobile?
Yes, it has been done. Not yet as popular as with autos yet.
Yeap you said it....Rattle Snakes....Be Careful, Muchacho...🤔
you will probably find the local mechanic is on the expensive side
I guess the hula girl on the dash tests the quality of your landings.
Lols
A lot of people don’t even know they own them, my grandfather had a plane, grandma didn’t know about it because she told him not to fly and he hid it. Then later he passed away and my dad told her about it. She said get rid of it.
I'll fly it to South America and back if you like
@@brianglade848 it has probably already been there! LOL
@@brianglade848 It was in 1988, gone for a long time now.
I picked up some sticky sun shades on SPORTY'S. They work nice and they're not real expensive.
Too many regulations=pilot shortage. The govt. Is what happened to aviation.
Too easy to always blame it on the government. Fuel and aircraft prices is what killed generaval aviation; aircraft prices come from government regulation AND people suing aircraft manufacturers for stupid shit as US folks like it.
Just like the trucking industry. The government keeps piling on the regulations and chases people out the door.
Gov.t ruins everything eventually and the Insurance industry are they tools to do it
Dont be stupid. Corporate facists are brain washing us to hate government unions and lawyers because these are the only three things that can protect us from corporate greed.
Looking on Google maps, it appears some airplanes were sold when they re located the ramp and built a new FBO
N21940 - It appears the husband died in 2011 and it then went under his wife's name around 2013. (Flightaware)
I looked up the Cherokee, it still flies it’s just in rough shape
I’ll have it if no one wants it!
Those planes are pretty roached out. Will take a fortune just to get the best one (182) in ferry condition for extensive work. Good news is they are in dry desert air.
I don't really agree that there is a pilot shortage because people aren't selling planes cheap or giving them away. There's a pilot shortage because general aviation died in the 80's and average Joey millenial today has absolutely no hope getting a license, buying a plane, storing a plane, paying for Annuals, paying insurance nor buying $5.00 gallon fuel. In the 70's small planes where everywhere because even a lower paid worker could afford a Tri-pacer, 150, 172 or maybe a 140-180. To own or fly any one of those planes today is a staggering yearly fixed cost burden before buying oil, gas or a nice sun shade. AND now you gotta' buy mandatory ADSB and who knows what's next.
Like the guy Ed says....Psh !
Shannon Whitaker General aviation is dead.
Yes it's dead and the planes left out there are sitting around so much it's causing problems. Just follow the Aviation-Safety.net incident database and look at the number of engine failures and mishaps going on with small planes. Rusty planes, Rusty Pilots... Between the hassle, regulation and costs just stick a fork in the whole GA thing.
@@shannonwhitaker9630 I have a 172 sitting in Indiana that I need to find something to do with.
Was left to me by an uncle and it hasn't been in the air since the early 2000's
Had full plans on doing a restoration, but after doing some research and digging. I decided it would had been a financial disaster.
Maybe consider hiring an A&P mechanic to look it over and give an estimate of value. If the plane has been stored out the weather it may still be worth more than would be imagined.
I think the industry costs have been increasing steadily since the 1980s at a faster rate than inflation it's sad to see those planes rotting away when so many people would like to fly
5:14 Insert Green Day meme here.
Looks like the owner of the first abandoned plane was a man named JAMES R MANIFEE who was a Corporal for the US Army in the Korean War. Looks like he passed away in February 2012 and the ownership was subsequently transferred to his wife DORIS DARLENE MANIFEE in 2013.
The second abandoned plane, the Piper is listed by the NTSB as having been in a "Collision with ground/water: controlled" in Westphalia Michigan in 2011.
Send them to me i would put them to good use for training or the better ones i will get them back in the air.