@@antoniostrina82 I watched a beautiful Russian woman at the Shaolin temple practicing Kung Fu on TH-cam yesterday. And of course, she was REALLY good
A couple of anecdotes from the 90s when I practiced old school Taekwondo as a kid in Eastern Europe. First, our training was no-nonsense and at times brutal. Our trainers regularly skipped classes in order to deal with some mob sh*t / participate in gangster brawls (and always came back looking relatively fresh, haha). One of the best known street fighters in my high school was a short guy who went by Lil Van Damme because he knocked people out with highkicks in the streets (he was an accomplished TKD practitioner). So yeah, the tougher the conditions the better the art will work eventually and vice versa
He's ITF. But this is what OLD SCHOOL TKD used to be. If you watch any of the videos before all the olympic rules, TKD, TSD, and other Karate styles looked very similar with strikes, punches, and take downs all looked similar. Great video.
Back in the early 90s, I would spar TKD guys who came up in the 70s and 80s. These guys were solid, with kicks, great punches, and even takedowns. Some of them were absolute beasts. That's where I learned to NEVER back straight up. They can go a lot faster forward than i can go backward. Had my nose broken because of it. 😆 I learned to circle instead of back straight up. That's how one learns, right?
That’s the thing, man. Traditional martial arts have been watered down due to modernization. If they were the same as they were a few decades ago, people would still praise the art today..
That’s a solid Era ..yeah I feel like it was a different sport to prbly more violent more physical and seems like that crop of tkd guys had more balls and more lost tools 😢
@blazingdragon9607 Agreed. Watered down because people don't train the same anymore. We trained 5 or 6 days a week. The drills were murderous! Repetition, unfortunately, is still the key to learning. If a martial arts school is too tough, they lose students, thus money, and they won't survive financially. People don't accept the pain as part of the learning process anymore.
I have been a practitioner of “old school TKD” since 1973. I was an instructor for 40 years. TKD , or “Korean Karate”, as it was sometimes referred to, was never considered inferior to other martial arts in the good old days. It was actually feared by other stylists. Probably because people had never had to deal with accomplished kickers. My first instructor taught sweeps, throws, grab and punch as well as Kendo to his advanced students. Classes were both tough and technical back then. The attrition rate, or “white belt fight” was high.
Different era. TKD has become way more of a performance based sport than an actual combat sport these days. That’s pretty intentional on the part of S.Korea from what I remember. When you practice an art like it’s supposed to be practiced with high intensity drills and contact sparring, this is what it should look like.
You're confusing ITF for WT Taekwondo. Both have always existed and continue to be taught. The reality however is that the creator of the real art got shunned by his government for moving to North Korea. So they tried to discredit General Choi but he remains the true father of Taekwondo. I'm fortunate enough to live close to a school where the Grandmaster of that dojang not only teaches the original art but he actually helped write a manual and gave advice to the general himself. The real art is as brutal as Kyokushin or any of the mma styles you see. Real taekwondo is military style and while feet are important you get trained to develop conditioned forearms for not only effective blocks but brutal counters. People that think taekwondo is points fighting are clueless and those who practice the true art sits quietly and confidently smiling inside knowing how deadly they can be if they need to.@@MisterPeckingOrder
Now THIS is what taekwondo looked like back in the late 70s when I was learning it. Full contact, both kicks and punches, takedowns, and aggressiveness. Thanks for the video, brought back lots of memories.
Indeed, it's ITF taekwondo. He's very good, but you can tell he's very confident in his spin kicks because his rivals don't show much experience in full contact fighting.
There is a video very similar to this tournament video and it is called Gan Soo Do highlights. Steve Grandeza (full contact Tangsudo) in that video demolished his Kyokushin and other TMA opponents like this Russian TKD fighter but his fights allowed more throws, takedowns and ground strikes. Btw, Tangsudo is Taekwondo's precursor.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 no tangsoodo is not taekwondos precursor. Taekwondo is a mix between shotokan karate and taekyeon.Tangsoodo is basically shotokan karate with korean striking methods
I've been focused heavily on boxing and wing chun videos lately.....didn't think I would be this excited about taekwondo. Have looked at TKD like this in over 10yrs
@@Ishghabibil4066 All taekwondo schools used those "karate" uniforms back in the day. Ji do kwan, chung do kwan, itf and moo do kwan still uses them. Only wtf (or wt as it is now) uses v neck shirts. Not saying its not itf, just that an open shirt says nothing about what style it is.
@@THEMARTIALARTSCHANNEL-bb4fx the chang doo kwan (ITF) dobok top is more like a closed jacket when compared to the moo do kwan or other TKD styles. But you're right back in the day TKD doboks were basically karate uniforms with a different fabric.
Considering boxing lacks elbows, hammer fists, back fists, and kick defense, I think the boxer did ok. He even caught a kick and could've capitalized on it.
Tkd is effective for real fighting. But all the schools I see train sport. It's useless. All they need to do is spar realistically. That's a big reason I quit.. And pulling hamstrings
real TKD is supposed to have good sparring regimen. all these schools nowadays do it for money and train for points. wack. sorry about ur hammies, u can definitely recondition them but take it slow and practice ur kicks step by step
@alexseo9305 yeah. It's been twenty years. I stayed a blue belt for two years out of 4 because I didn't want to pay 1500 for the black belt test. So they hated me kicking the sh*t it of the black belts. But those hammer kicks 😖 it was too long to recover. But tkd is deadly if you train for combat.
We have a large Russian contingent in ILC. It doesn't matter what style you're talking about, if there's Russians involved it's a different animal altogether. The culture is radically different, especially after the turmoil of the 90s. They are ALL business, and when it's time to train, they will train until exhaustion.
@FightCommentary The one typically labeled "Boxing Vs. Karate" (A closer look reveals "Taekwondo" in their Dobaks. It's one of the oldest style vs. style videos on TH-cam. I think you've reacted to it before. It's an old Russian video where a series of Boxers consecutively knock down a series of "Karateka". The camera pans up to a guy in a Soviet looking military uniform, prompting the comment "You have disappointed the Kommissar."
It's more about what was added, not what was taken away. The addition of electronic gear changed the game. Olympic TKD fighters could still use old-school techniques if they wanted to, but they just wouldn't be successful with the current rules.
The technology can always be made to fit what is needed or wanted. The rules added took away from the art. The emphasis on sport detracts from the martial applications.
I'm not familiar with how's TKD these days but even in the 00s when i still do TKD i was taught to use punches, clinches and especially to kick hard because my coaches said 'love taps' often dont count you have to kick hard enough to make a loud sound the louder the better so the judges know you're getting a point in, and getting a KO was encouraged. i think the introduction of electronic sensors really turns it into more 'sporty' than 'martial arty'
Totally absent from this comment section is the " tae kwon do sucks" crowd. They always wait for the guy who is sluggish weak, poor balance and slow. Then they make their comments that paint a broad brush on the whole martial style. No room for that here.
“Hand to hand” in the former Soviet Union refers to a bunch of modernized Turkic/Cossack fighting styles. Horting is one, but this guy looks Kazakh and is probably doing Zhekpezhek. All these styles are the ancestor of systema and are basically bad MMA. The steppe nomads were the best wrestlers in the world… strikers, not so much.
The Old Skool TKD I learned was Mudukwon. Bone breaking art. Grandmaster Seung Gyoo Dong was my teacher. This was normal back then. I started training in 1982. Years later I wind up working on the West Coast with a pro fight team as a rehab specialist. Team Oyama. I did not train there. I trained with the highest ranked Hapkido Black Belt in the world at the time Supreme Grandmaster Kwang SIk Myung, and just started training after being idle for about 5 years. I asked a guy I thought was my friend to spar one day just for fun. I never learned Muay Thai and wanted to try. I walk out into the gym and low and behold there sat Rampage Jackson, Romie Adanza, Bao Quach, Tito Ortiz, Rob Emerson and some other guys like Razor Rob McCullough. The guys I worked with. They thought the guy was gonna kick my arse. Thought I was soft because I worked on people. Little did they know I was an auto mechanic, a plumber, a carpenter, a bouncer and a tow truck driver before that. That was until they viewed me stretching then I heard, "Nuchols knows something." Dude came out swinging full power. I used blocks they said did not work. As he threw two hooks I blocked them both and opened his chest up with my BLOCKS. Next was a stamp kick to his chest and off his feet and across the ring he went. Every last one of them jumped up screaming. I gassed later of course, until I got that helmet off my head. Dude refused to fight me with no helmet and I was game and they knew it. They had to hold me back." I can breathe now! Let's go!!! I will fight you all day long!!!" They all came in the ring and stopped the fight. I go to the shower and before I could finish a big black hand put a towel in the shower as I cut the water off. It was Rampage. His words,"Nuchols!! You are next!" I said next what? He said "champion!" After working with them and seeing how they acted, I told them I wanted no part of fighting for money. I am now a healer. I am the most dangerous I have ever been in my life. I know all 365 attack points on the human. I am a white guy that ran an acupuncture clinic. Healing was my fight. My fight was against the evil medical establishment. My last fight was in a court room in SOCAL testifying in a medical case against dirty doctors, shutting them down from practicing. Operation Spinal Cap. The fight continues to this day! Train hard, train real and show repect to one another. What I learned by traditional training. Not something done in a fight gym.
Yes, this looks like ITF. ITF is semi-contact continuous sparring from waist to head. In my view, it's the best style of TKD - ITF guys can *actually* fight. The only drawback is that ITF guys fight semi-contact - so if they come up against a MT/K1 guy, they aren't as used to getting hit full contact - other than that, they can hold their own...
I noticed that the TKD guy was kicking without hold himself. Nowadays there are many TKD guys who gesture a kick but they cannot land it for some reason.
IDK how the scoring system of ITF tkd was back then. I think, they get more points for scoring kicks (flashy ones get more points), so it's strange they have aggressive punches.
When the opposition does manage to close the distance they both go off the mat prompting the Ref to wade in ….thats the problem when there’s no ring or cage or if your in a busy bar or pub …a mat is a un realistic fight areana …
That hand positioning is actually very good. Its for managing distance not for deffense as you may think. Its not a shield to protect you, its more like trying to keep away a wild animal with a long stick (you will not hurt the animal but you will have time to step back). As long as his extended arm is not connected to to the tkd guy he is safe, and when tkd enters the "void" his arm, or antena, warns him to step back/aside
It's a long guard, but it isn't effective because he isn't using it to threaten lead hand attacks, hand fight, or post off with, he's just kinda keeping it static in the air. The long guard is an effective tool but you need to be active with it
By the dobok I'd say this looks like ITF. Also the guy's using his hands which WT rules don't really encourage nowadays afaik but rules might've been different in the past. Back in the day ITF had its home base in North Korea while WT (WTF in those days) was centered in South Korea. So ITF might've had a bigger reach in former Soviet countries.
Might be, but that dobok is from WTF idk if ITF used similar back them but surely it is WTF Taekwondo. Edit: Yes, I've watched closer and yes, he got the ITF Design in his back
He is WTF, ITF guys have the guard high and can throw some basic boxing punches,especially straights. His punches are just overpowered swings that WTF also has.
I once saw a spanish TKD teacher making a comprehensive TKD history video series,going in the evolution of technique,attitude, and so on. Called the Korean Kicking Project.
They are well trained, otherwise they would have been knocked out in the first 15 seconds. The issue was these fights took place before ppl knew MMA. TKD guy combined his art with boxing and wrestling. Therefore, he had very good tools mix against his opponents who just knew their specific arts.
In general, hand to hand can mean anything in Russia. There's the army variation, which was an attempt to merge karate with boxing (basically, western kickboxing) and sambo. But this doesn't look like it at all. If anything, this looks like some bastardized Wing Chun
It's not WTF look at the logo on the back of the taekwon-do jacket. It spells 'Taekwon-do' in the shape of a tree which is the ITF logo. Also WTF uses a 'V neck' uniform and used the spelling 'taekwondo'. Hope this helps. I'm an ITF instructor.
@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv He is definately WTF, his low guard, movement and swing punches are all WTF. Uniforms didn't matter back then, they could wear anything available.
The first dude is not a boxer, in the Soviet Union the pendulum step would be almost a must and he doesn't do it at all. Unless this is the Kazakh school where there was more room for infighters
This............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Is the real Taekwondo. This reminds me that where i used to practice there was a Martial mentality, where if i'm kicking or fighting is to break. When was time to spar, mostly of time was with no body or leg protectors, even women were trained as men. unfortunately, we had no glooves for make full contact sparr (we were registered in Kukiwon) also many of my teammates had boxing championships
What old school footage have I not commentated on? Let me know!
Slavic people go hardcore and they make every martial art working. Is there any of them making traditional kung fu working?
@@antoniostrina82 I watched a beautiful Russian woman at the Shaolin temple practicing Kung Fu on TH-cam yesterday. And of course, she was REALLY good
@@FightCommentary oh I forget to say Korea Netherlands
A couple of anecdotes from the 90s when I practiced old school Taekwondo as a kid in Eastern Europe. First, our training was no-nonsense and at times brutal. Our trainers regularly skipped classes in order to deal with some mob sh*t / participate in gangster brawls (and always came back looking relatively fresh, haha). One of the best known street fighters in my high school was a short guy who went by Lil Van Damme because he knocked people out with highkicks in the streets (he was an accomplished TKD practitioner). So yeah, the tougher the conditions the better the art will work eventually and vice versa
He's ITF. But this is what OLD SCHOOL TKD used to be. If you watch any of the videos before all the olympic rules, TKD, TSD, and other Karate styles looked very similar with strikes, punches, and take downs all looked similar. Great video.
I don't think he's ITF. He's WTF style with good boxing.
If you look at his uniform, its an ITF uniform. @whattmang
Back in the early 90s, I would spar TKD guys who came up in the 70s and 80s. These guys were solid, with kicks, great punches, and even takedowns. Some of them were absolute beasts. That's where I learned to NEVER back straight up. They can go a lot faster forward than i can go backward. Had my nose broken because of it. 😆
I learned to circle instead of back straight up. That's how one learns, right?
Yeah, what a different era!
Oooooo good point.
That’s the thing, man. Traditional martial arts have been watered down due to modernization. If they were the same as they were a few decades ago, people would still praise the art today..
That’s a solid Era ..yeah I feel like it was a different sport to prbly more violent more physical and seems like that crop of tkd guys had more balls and more lost tools 😢
@blazingdragon9607 Agreed. Watered down because people don't train the same anymore. We trained 5 or 6 days a week. The drills were murderous! Repetition, unfortunately, is still the key to learning.
If a martial arts school is too tough, they lose students, thus money, and they won't survive financially.
People don't accept the pain as part of the learning process anymore.
I have been a practitioner of “old school TKD” since 1973. I was an instructor for 40 years. TKD , or “Korean Karate”, as it was sometimes referred to, was never considered inferior to other martial arts in the good old days. It was actually feared by other stylists. Probably because people had never had to deal with accomplished kickers. My first instructor taught sweeps, throws, grab and punch as well as Kendo to his advanced students. Classes were both tough and technical back then. The attrition rate, or “white belt fight” was high.
The front of our school said Korean Karate too!
Good power and aggression by the Taekwondo fighter. You normally don’t see that in taekwondo fighters
@aidenbooker1215 yeah he’s pretty good.
he looks like a taekwondo guy turn boxing/kick boxing. These kind of power kicks is really popular during the 2000s era.
Different era. TKD has become way more of a performance based sport than an actual combat sport these days. That’s pretty intentional on the part of S.Korea from what I remember. When you practice an art like it’s supposed to be practiced with high intensity drills and contact sparring, this is what it should look like.
You're confusing ITF for WT Taekwondo. Both have always existed and continue to be taught. The reality however is that the creator of the real art got shunned by his government for moving to North Korea. So they tried to discredit General Choi but he remains the true father of Taekwondo. I'm fortunate enough to live close to a school where the Grandmaster of that dojang not only teaches the original art but he actually helped write a manual and gave advice to the general himself. The real art is as brutal as Kyokushin or any of the mma styles you see. Real taekwondo is military style and while feet are important you get trained to develop conditioned forearms for not only effective blocks but brutal counters. People that think taekwondo is points fighting are clueless and those who practice the true art sits quietly and confidently smiling inside knowing how deadly they can be if they need to.@@MisterPeckingOrder
Not anymore. It used to be common
Now THIS is what taekwondo looked like back in the late 70s when I was learning it. Full contact, both kicks and punches, takedowns, and aggressiveness. Thanks for the video, brought back lots of memories.
Indeed, it's ITF taekwondo. He's very good, but you can tell he's very confident in his spin kicks because his rivals don't show much experience in full contact fighting.
Anytime I see an old-school fight like this, it just seems like a spin-heel kick away from a life-changing event for the guy on the wrong side of it.
This what im talking about! Fighting is Fighting. Follow the fundamentals of combat and ur art will be good. And dont forget about defense guys 😂
TKD guy had great kicks but you can tell how much energy he was spending.
Thank you for this video. I love these ITF guys.
There is a video very similar to this tournament video and it is called Gan Soo Do highlights. Steve Grandeza (full contact Tangsudo) in that video demolished his Kyokushin and other TMA opponents like this Russian TKD fighter but his fights allowed more throws, takedowns and ground strikes. Btw, Tangsudo is Taekwondo's precursor.
It came after?
Yes, that video from Gan Soo Do was recorded since 1990s.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 no tangsoodo is not taekwondos precursor. Taekwondo is a mix between shotokan karate and taekyeon.Tangsoodo is basically shotokan karate with korean striking methods
Ok, that is weird.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 what's weird?
I've been focused heavily on boxing and wing chun videos lately.....didn't think I would be this excited about taekwondo. Have looked at TKD like this in over 10yrs
1:03 It's ITF definitely. I could tell by the uniform
@@Ishghabibil4066 Thought so too. The 'tree' on the back looks like our old uniforms.
@Mummymunmuggy you do ITF nice I do traditional TKD it's so much better than that foot fencing fuckery that we see in the olympics.
@@Ishghabibil4066 All taekwondo schools used those "karate" uniforms back in the day. Ji do kwan, chung do kwan, itf and moo do kwan still uses them. Only wtf (or wt as it is now) uses v neck shirts. Not saying its not itf, just that an open shirt says nothing about what style it is.
@@THEMARTIALARTSCHANNEL-bb4fx the chang doo kwan (ITF) dobok top is more like a closed jacket when compared to the moo do kwan or other TKD styles. But you're right back in the day TKD doboks were basically karate uniforms with a different fabric.
Considering boxing lacks elbows, hammer fists, back fists, and kick defense, I think the boxer did ok. He even caught a kick and could've capitalized on it.
A “boxer” that doesn’t know how to jab and keep his hands up 😂. It was a miracle that he didn’t eat any head kick.
😂😂😂
Legit TKDin from an ITF school Nice to see some of that harder style.
Tkd is effective for real fighting. But all the schools I see train sport. It's useless. All they need to do is spar realistically. That's a big reason I quit.. And pulling hamstrings
real TKD is supposed to have good sparring regimen. all these schools nowadays do it for money and train for points. wack. sorry about ur hammies, u can definitely recondition them but take it slow and practice ur kicks step by step
@alexseo9305 yeah. It's been twenty years. I stayed a blue belt for two years out of 4 because I didn't want to pay 1500 for the black belt test. So they hated me kicking the sh*t it of the black belts. But those hammer kicks 😖 it was too long to recover. But tkd is deadly if you train for combat.
If your hamstrings are still having trouble try working up to some RDL’s and then single leg RDL’s. Helped mine a lot 👍
@@jahigains9201 I'm sorry. What are RDLs..
@@gretashapiro4118 Romanian Deadlifts. They’re pretty much a straight leg deadlift. Good for lengthening and strengthening the hamstrings
I took Taekwondo for a bit in the 70s. This is exactly how we sparred. We beat the hell out of each other and our instructor beat us even worse.
The spins, stance switches and straight forward backward movements are more WT than ITF
Old school TKD is dynamic & awesome !
A very good ITF Teakwondo vs 3 clueless dudes.
We have a large Russian contingent in ILC.
It doesn't matter what style you're talking about, if there's Russians involved it's a different animal altogether.
The culture is radically different, especially after the turmoil of the 90s.
They are ALL business, and when it's time to train, they will train until exhaustion.
It's ITF because of the arrangement of the letters on the back of the uniform. Also, only the ITF was active in those countries.
Didn't GTF make some headway?
I think this tkd guy would be good whatever style he learnt. You can see he's just naturaly got excellent timing and athleticsim
UFC champs Benson Henderson and Anthony Pettis both came from TKD.
Great TKD FIGHTER perfect kicks and speed
Show this video as a counter nect time someone brings up the infamous "Kommisar" video.
Which one is the Komissar video?
@FightCommentary The one typically labeled "Boxing Vs. Karate" (A closer look reveals "Taekwondo" in their Dobaks. It's one of the oldest style vs. style videos on TH-cam. I think you've reacted to it before.
It's an old Russian video where a series of Boxers consecutively knock down a series of "Karateka". The camera pans up to a guy in a Soviet looking military uniform, prompting the comment "You have disappointed the Kommissar."
Good stuff. Definitely wish Olympic TKD would add back a lot of what made old school TKD so fun to watch.
It's more about what was added, not what was taken away. The addition of electronic gear changed the game. Olympic TKD fighters could still use old-school techniques if they wanted to, but they just wouldn't be successful with the current rules.
The technology can always be made to fit what is needed or wanted. The rules added took away from the art. The emphasis on sport detracts from the martial applications.
@@ravdobikjarb93 Yes, absolutely.
olympic point taekwondo sucks
I'm not familiar with how's TKD these days but even in the 00s when i still do TKD i was taught to use punches, clinches and especially to kick hard because my coaches said 'love taps' often dont count you have to kick hard enough to make a loud sound the louder the better so the judges know you're getting a point in, and getting a KO was encouraged. i think the introduction of electronic sensors really turns it into more 'sporty' than 'martial arty'
Totally absent from this comment section is the " tae kwon do sucks" crowd. They always wait for the guy who is sluggish weak, poor balance and slow. Then they make their comments that paint a broad brush on the whole martial style. No room for that here.
Old school ITF using WTF footwork in their fighting. Fundamental taekwondo number one you have to be in shape
That ist conventional ITF footwork, maybe it´s just Tae Kwon Do footwork.
@@lowge57 it looks wtf. this is literally how they teach me. old school wtf.
These Taekwondo fighters put pressure on their opponents like some Shaolin Kung Fu fighters I've watched.
looks like ITF imo. that uniform is universal. ITF is way more aggressive technique wise and is meant for damage. hes doin it really well
I like this
I’d say definitely ITF style taekwondo
He’s solid
MVP would be proud.
Easily the best boxing fundamentals I've seen from an ITF practitioner
“Hand to hand” in the former Soviet Union refers to a bunch of modernized Turkic/Cossack fighting styles. Horting is one, but this guy looks Kazakh and is probably doing Zhekpezhek. All these styles are the ancestor of systema and are basically bad MMA. The steppe nomads were the best wrestlers in the world… strikers, not so much.
Very cool! I will look up Zhekpezhek too! Thanks for the information!
Thanks for valuable info. But saying bad mma is a bit too strong. Remember most of the ppl at that time perhaps did not know what mma is.
@kenirawadi4689 Vale Tudo and Japanese Shootfighting have been around for a lot longer time before the term MMA came into being.
ITF indeed...and as it used to be...and should be practiced!
The Old Skool TKD I learned was Mudukwon. Bone breaking art. Grandmaster Seung Gyoo Dong was my teacher. This was normal back then. I started training in 1982. Years later I wind up working on the West Coast with a pro fight team as a rehab specialist. Team Oyama. I did not train there. I trained with the highest ranked Hapkido Black Belt in the world at the time Supreme Grandmaster Kwang SIk Myung, and just started training after being idle for about 5 years. I asked a guy I thought was my friend to spar one day just for fun. I never learned Muay Thai and wanted to try. I walk out into the gym and low and behold there sat Rampage Jackson, Romie Adanza, Bao Quach, Tito Ortiz, Rob Emerson and some other guys like Razor Rob McCullough. The guys I worked with. They thought the guy was gonna kick my arse. Thought I was soft because I worked on people. Little did they know I was an auto mechanic, a plumber, a carpenter, a bouncer and a tow truck driver before that. That was until they viewed me stretching then I heard, "Nuchols knows something." Dude came out swinging full power. I used blocks they said did not work. As he threw two hooks I blocked them both and opened his chest up with my BLOCKS. Next was a stamp kick to his chest and off his feet and across the ring he went. Every last one of them jumped up screaming. I gassed later of course, until I got that helmet off my head. Dude refused to fight me with no helmet and I was game and they knew it. They had to hold me back." I can breathe now! Let's go!!! I will fight you all day long!!!" They all came in the ring and stopped the fight. I go to the shower and before I could finish a big black hand put a towel in the shower as I cut the water off. It was Rampage. His words,"Nuchols!! You are next!" I said next what? He said "champion!" After working with them and seeing how they acted, I told them I wanted no part of fighting for money. I am now a healer. I am the most dangerous I have ever been in my life. I know all 365 attack points on the human. I am a white guy that ran an acupuncture clinic. Healing was my fight. My fight was against the evil medical establishment. My last fight was in a court room in SOCAL testifying in a medical case against dirty doctors, shutting them down from practicing. Operation Spinal Cap. The fight continues to this day! Train hard, train real and show repect to one another. What I learned by traditional training. Not something done in a fight gym.
The tkd practitioner is nicknamed Anzor and is a 4th degree WT
This is how an actual taekwondo fighter should fight
Can't under estimate the power of true TKD
this is where wrestling, judo, and jujitsu would come in handy lol
Were are your fights..i wanna see how its done😂
Yes, this looks like ITF. ITF is semi-contact continuous sparring from waist to head. In my view, it's the best style of TKD - ITF guys can *actually* fight.
The only drawback is that ITF guys fight semi-contact - so if they come up against a MT/K1 guy, they aren't as used to getting hit full contact - other than that, they can hold their own...
I noticed that the TKD guy was kicking without hold himself. Nowadays there are many TKD guys who gesture a kick but they cannot land it for some reason.
This TKD dudes are very fast & good
3:25 - sweep the leg!
Man, TKD used to be so lethal. So sad to see the state the style is in now
the karate guy in the second clip looks like he has robotic feet
Guy totally studied some soviet style boxing to cover taekwondo’s weaknesses. Also his grappling instincts were way too good
IDK how the scoring system of ITF tkd was back then. I think, they get more points for scoring kicks (flashy ones get more points), so it's strange they have aggressive punches.
Impressive, very nice ! Great fighter, who is this guy ? give me his name maaan !
When the opposition does manage to close the distance they both go off the mat prompting the Ref to wade in ….thats the problem when there’s no ring or cage or if your in a busy bar or pub …a mat is a un realistic fight areana …
Old school ITF Taekwondo.
That hand positioning is actually very good. Its for managing distance not for deffense as you may think. Its not a shield to protect you, its more like trying to keep away a wild animal with a long stick (you will not hurt the animal but you will have time to step back). As long as his extended arm is not connected to to the tkd guy he is safe, and when tkd enters the "void" his arm, or antena, warns him to step back/aside
It's a long guard, but it isn't effective because he isn't using it to threaten lead hand attacks, hand fight, or post off with, he's just kinda keeping it static in the air. The long guard is an effective tool but you need to be active with it
WTF = Taekwondo
ITF = Taekwon Do
So this was ITF.
That's a simple way to remember!
By the dobok I'd say this looks like ITF. Also the guy's using his hands which WT rules don't really encourage nowadays afaik but rules might've been different in the past. Back in the day ITF had its home base in North Korea while WT (WTF in those days) was centered in South Korea. So ITF might've had a bigger reach in former Soviet countries.
Might be, but that dobok is from WTF idk if ITF used similar back them but surely it is WTF Taekwondo.
Edit: Yes, I've watched closer and yes, he got the ITF Design in his back
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It looks more open in the front like a jacket. WTF doboks look more like a v neck t-shirt.
He is WTF, ITF guys have the guard high and can throw some basic boxing punches,especially straights.
His punches are just overpowered swings that WTF also has.
Blame the Olympics. Any martial art it touches, gets ruined.
Spamming that spinning back kick like chump, great technique though
My son is doing Shinkiokushin and asked me what's with TWD punches an i explained - superior kicks and inferior punches.
I say look up Cuba and Mexico
I once saw a spanish TKD teacher making a comprehensive TKD history video series,going in the evolution of technique,attitude, and so on.
Called the Korean Kicking Project.
I will do a search!
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ITF. He's good but not invincible. His opponents had no business being on on the mats. They're obviously not well trained fighters.
They are well trained, otherwise they would have been knocked out in the first 15 seconds. The issue was these fights took place before ppl knew MMA. TKD guy combined his art with boxing and wrestling. Therefore, he had very good tools mix against his opponents who just knew their specific arts.
I wish you were in front of me right now.
@@GBody-sn5ok No thanks. I'm straight.
ITF.
Lower your mic. It's looking a little sus 😂
In general, hand to hand can mean anything in Russia. There's the army variation, which was an attempt to merge karate with boxing (basically, western kickboxing) and sambo. But this doesn't look like it at all. If anything, this looks like some bastardized Wing Chun
Quite bad matches xD
Wtf style
It's not WTF look at the logo on the back of the taekwon-do jacket. It spells 'Taekwon-do' in the shape of a tree which is the ITF logo. Also WTF uses a 'V neck' uniform and used the spelling 'taekwondo'. Hope this helps. I'm an ITF instructor.
@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv He is definately WTF, his low guard, movement and swing punches are all WTF. Uniforms didn't matter back then, they could wear anything available.
@@vasileios6301What is Wtf?
The first dude is not a boxer, in the Soviet Union the pendulum step would be almost a must and he doesn't do it at all. Unless this is the Kazakh school where there was more room for infighters
That boxer vs TKD was a good fight.
This............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Is the real Taekwondo.
This reminds me that where i used to practice there was a Martial mentality, where if i'm kicking or fighting is to break. When was time to spar, mostly of time was with no body or leg protectors, even women were trained as men. unfortunately, we had no glooves for make full contact sparr (we were registered in Kukiwon) also many of my teammates had boxing championships
That’s not a boxer!