i ride dualsport bikes, and i don't need more than 150km range. The stark varg looks promising. For enduro in suburban areas, electric opens up tons of new places to ride
From all this bikes only Zero and Cake is really for the YSA customers, author of this article forgot I think one of the best and most reliable electric motorcycle in the market- Kollter . At this point Kollter RS1 with 130miles range for $11k is the best motorcycle in the market
I will Stick to the two bikes I have now. 15’ CBR300R and 16’ GSX-S1000! Rode them both today. My kid usually rides the smaller one but I like riding it to so I take it on small trips to town and stuff! It’s not fast but is quick around town.
Well, $35,000 is a little high for a bike with no history. But if I were younger (I’m 79) I’d be scraping the $$ together. I’m awaiting delivery of my Metacycle. It’s been paid for since October.
@@automotiveterritory When I got the email announcing the Metacycle,I think April 2021. The plan was $100.00 to hold it, $700.00 a month and delivery in October 2021. Then an announcement saying they were ahead of schedule. The last I have heard is “the 1st quarter of 2022”. I don’t think I have gotten any direct communication (I don’t check my email as closely as I might) from Sondors, this is just what I’ve heard, google, TH-cam, etc. This is the fourth Sondors product I’ve purchased and I’ve been happy with them. Hope I like this one as well.
The sur ron and talaria are right around 5k can get up to about 80mph and the range varies but theres loads of upgrades and mods for them to improve power and range
Gotta tell you....have you seen the prices of the electric BICYCLES? Talk about ridiculous....but a $35,000 electric "motorcycle" is just as ridiculous.
@@tedmarakas2626 That's another aspect of the electric vehicle. The extreme cost and the nonuniversal application of the batteries are it's own quagmire. If you can go to walmart and purchase a battery for any fossil fuel vehicle at a fair price, why would you go electric while the prices doesn't fit the societal rate of income. It's either the EV's need to coincide with todays pay grade or society's pay grade needs to match the EV cost. The only EV that doesn't trip over it's own Achilles heel is the electric bicycle. It's the only viable EV application that is practical at the moment.
All of those e bikes that look horrendous simply need to add sport like fairings and they would be ok. Obviously that would need to be included in the already inflated pricing. No one looking a e bikes will spend 115k let alone 35k for a e bike that has a 200km range per charge unless they have money to waste, in which case buy yourself a Ferrari, you can get one for the same price, turns heads and gets the girls. Remember, going E is supposed to reduce cost not increase cost of transport. All ebikes should be a range from 2k to 15k maximum.
I was refwring to bikes like 115k etc or cars priced at 60 to 80k with the normal petrol version being 35 ti 40k. The point is, noone has the time nor the money to go green even if they wanted to unless they won lotto, has rich parents or was born with a silver spoon in thier mouths. If these manufacturers are serious about going green they need to be cheaper than petrol.cars and bikes because both charging time and range are penalties for going electric
Forced to buy results in hated by those who want to ride gas and not need to plan trips around a plug in ! The BULLSHIT lie line of nearly free fuel cost ! Got you a thumbs DOWN . Expect the gas tax to be put onto your electric bill and time of day extra cost as well !!!! That and expect massive price hikes and black outs of electricity !
A motorcycle without a V-twin, open exhaust and V-twin vibrations isn't a motorcycle....it is an appliance that you buy from PC Richards. Frankly, I don't care how fast it is.
@@automotiveterritory Yes, they will be but probably not for another 20-30 years.. for people in their 50's and older the internal combustion engine is the present and future. Gotta say, the electric idea is wonderful BUT there are some die hard gear heads that they love the noise, complexity and the drama of the V-twin and other configuration engines. Cheers, ride carefully.
YOU Are basically buying a high overpriced toy and people going to wish they listen just buy a real motorcycle or a gas scooter is way cheaper then what these toys asking for if you buy now you getting con period there is nothing on the market that's has been true to form yet just go ask sondors what you really buying lmao!!!
Well, the industry is evolving fast. It is true that electric motorcycles have higher prices compared to their ICE counterparts but your statement about all ICE scooters and bikes being cheaper than EVs is not entirely true. For example, Niu have recently announced MQi GT EVO, which has the performance comparative to an ICE model, a very competitive price and lower running costs.
I've been riding a Daymak EM2 since 2018 and still love it. It's only a town bike...top speed of 65 kph, but it was 4 grand out the door.
Are there any things that you wish were changed or updated in your bike?
i ride dualsport bikes, and i don't need more than 150km range.
The stark varg looks promising.
For enduro in suburban areas, electric opens up tons of new places to ride
I love my RGNT! It's perfect for city commutes and lazy country road riding.
It's really nice to hear that you've found a model that suits you perfectly
Electric motorcycling is a hot topic nowadays. Today we want to show the newest models from the segment. Which of these is your top pick?
I like big motorbikes
What bike models are your favorites?
Ducati
Nice one!
The Energica... if I could afford it, and the Soco with the helmet storage caught my attention.
From all this bikes only Zero and Cake is really for the YSA customers, author of this article forgot I think one of the best and most reliable electric motorcycle in the market- Kollter . At this point Kollter RS1 with 130miles range for $11k is the best motorcycle in the market
yes electric motorcycles are the greatest of all types
You are missing the electric Australian Savic Motorcycle, releasing in October 2022.
I will Stick to the two bikes I have now. 15’ CBR300R and 16’ GSX-S1000! Rode them both today. My kid usually rides the smaller one but I like riding it to so I take it on small trips to town and stuff! It’s not fast but is quick around town.
When do you think electric motorcycles will become commonly accepted?
8:03 a direct front-on view of the Damon Hyperfighter reminds me of Bumblebee...
Yes, and the color scheme.
Very nice and beautiful ❤️💕💕
Which of these did you like the most?
Super Soco Stash looks cool!
It does! Is it your favorite of them all?
@@automotiveterritory yes!!!
Looking forward great 👍
Which of these is your favorite option?
Texas USA USA 🇺🇸
Where is Verge TS? With its 1000 nm torque??
It's an older model that was featured in our previous videos
Well, $35,000 is a little high for a bike with no history. But if I were younger (I’m 79) I’d be scraping the $$ together.
I’m awaiting delivery of my Metacycle. It’s been paid for since October.
When is the estimated delivery of your Metacycle?
@@automotiveterritory
When I got the email announcing the Metacycle,I think April 2021. The plan was $100.00 to hold it, $700.00 a month and delivery in October 2021. Then an announcement saying they were ahead of schedule. The last I have heard is “the 1st quarter of 2022”. I don’t think I have gotten any direct communication (I don’t check my email as closely as I might) from Sondors, this is just what I’ve heard, google, TH-cam, etc. This is the fourth Sondors product I’ve purchased and I’ve been happy with them. Hope I like this one as well.
What other Sondors products do you own?
@@theknifedude1881 get your money back it's a high price scooter and you not going to go very far either most of this stuff is false
@@ceestone1 I’ve waited this long, I’m going to hang on. Pretty sure it’ll be salable on the secondary market if I don’t like it.
Verge Hubless Electric. You didn't list that one.
It's a nice option but we have talked about it in previous videos. As far as I remember it was presented several years ago
*Dugati Matoł for me!*
It's a nice option indeed
Nice
Thanks. Which of these is your top pick?
Make a cheap urban commuter with a real 15 mile range, lots of storage for groceries etc. 50mph top speed , you'll sell millions.
How much range?
@@automotiveterritory 15 miles , a real fifteen miles. 95% of peeps don't go further in a day.
@@kennypool 15 is not enough
I thought that there was a typo and you meant 150. Nowadays even entry level bikes could go 15 miles at full throttle.
The chinese are already selling 80 mile range e-scooters
And ±200km range electric sportbikes
ducati motoe is very good designed bike.
Is it your favorite of them all?
so the battery ost of a battery $1500+ = and a life expectancy of 2 years ?!?!maybe???
Why 2 years?
probably more than 2 years but what about 10 years? Will they last this long and how much will the batteries be and will they be available?
20 years. You missed the 0.
Electric bikes and cars are still unreasonable or unreachable to the normal income people. Bikes need to be about 5k to 10k
Sondors are trying to achieve this with their Metacycle.
The sur ron and talaria are right around 5k can get up to about 80mph and the range varies but theres loads of upgrades and mods for them to improve power and range
Gotta tell you....have you seen the prices of the electric BICYCLES? Talk about ridiculous....but a $35,000 electric "motorcycle" is just as ridiculous.
5K? What?
RGNT
Grunt
Metacycle
Stash
Cake
UBCO
Plenty to choose from, but your asking for a moped at $5K
@@automotiveterritory and they miss the marked alot of this stuff is pure fluff and way overpriced
Electric is atm non feasible do to the non existent range and cost of replacement battery packs.
Do you think that this technology could evolve into something in the future?
@@automotiveterritory Not governments and corporations controlling the prices and running the world on fossil fuels
@@automotiveterritory The best you're gonna get is moped status while fossil fuels dominate the world market.
That's if you can get them. Who will supply new battery packs say....10 years from now? oh, yeah, now it is a $35,000 paper weight or scrap metal.
@@tedmarakas2626 That's another aspect of the electric vehicle. The extreme cost and the nonuniversal application of the batteries are it's own quagmire. If you can go to walmart and purchase a battery for any fossil fuel vehicle at a fair price, why would you go electric while the prices doesn't fit the societal rate of income. It's either the EV's need to coincide with todays pay grade or society's pay grade needs to match the EV cost. The only EV that doesn't trip over it's own Achilles heel is the electric bicycle. It's the only viable EV application that is practical at the moment.
All of those e bikes that look horrendous simply need to add sport like fairings and they would be ok. Obviously that would need to be included in the already inflated pricing. No one looking a e bikes will spend 115k let alone 35k for a e bike that has a 200km range per charge unless they have money to waste, in which case buy yourself a Ferrari, you can get one for the same price, turns heads and gets the girls. Remember, going E is supposed to reduce cost not increase cost of transport. All ebikes should be a range from 2k to 15k maximum.
What kind of a Ferrari are you getting for 35k?
I was refwring to bikes like 115k etc or cars priced at 60 to 80k with the normal petrol version being 35 ti 40k.
The point is, noone has the time nor the money to go green even if they wanted to unless they won lotto, has rich parents or was born with a silver spoon in thier mouths.
If these manufacturers are serious about going green they need to be cheaper than petrol.cars and bikes because both charging time and range are penalties for going electric
Forced to buy results in hated by those who want to ride gas and not need to plan trips around a plug in ! The BULLSHIT lie line of nearly free fuel cost ! Got you a thumbs DOWN . Expect the gas tax to be put onto your electric bill and time of day extra cost as well !!!! That and expect massive price hikes and black outs of electricity !
Black outs? When did it happen last in your region?
Thank you for your rant. But, what?
A motorcycle without a V-twin, open exhaust and V-twin vibrations isn't a motorcycle....it is an appliance that you buy from PC Richards. Frankly, I don't care how fast it is.
Well, there are many indicators showing that EVs are going to become more common in the future.
@@automotiveterritory
Yes, they will be but probably not for another 20-30 years.. for people in their 50's and older the internal combustion engine is the present and future. Gotta say, the electric idea is wonderful BUT there are some die hard gear heads that they love the noise, complexity and the drama of the V-twin and other configuration engines.
Cheers, ride carefully.
YOU Are basically buying a high overpriced toy and people going to wish they listen just buy a real motorcycle or a gas scooter is way cheaper then what these toys asking for if you buy now you getting con period there is nothing on the market that's has been true to form yet just go ask sondors what you really buying lmao!!!
Well, the industry is evolving fast. It is true that electric motorcycles have higher prices compared to their ICE counterparts but your statement about all ICE scooters and bikes being cheaper than EVs is not entirely true. For example, Niu have recently announced MQi GT EVO, which has the performance comparative to an ICE model, a very competitive price and lower running costs.